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dudemanjch Crew Member Posts: 1 |
posted 01-10-2003 04:29 PM
  
OK, I am new to this board, but it is awesome to see so many GT3 fans! Anyways, when i was lookin through some posts I found abbreviations that I had no idea what they meant! For example, if someone could tell me what SCC, VCD, and any other common abbreviation means it would be appreciated! Thanks yall rock IP: Logged |
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rikki 1st Lieutenant Posts: 629 |
posted 01-10-2003 04:57 PM
Welcome to the Numbers, dudemanjch. This is a great forum. Check out Numbone's GT3 Tuning Class thread for a definition of a lot of these abbreviations since most are related to the cars. Many of the other abbreviations refer to races or courses. For example I believe SCC is Street Car Challenge. Just poke around and join in! In the meantime, maybe someone will generate a list so we all can know what all the abbreviations mean IP: Logged |
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GB24Hours Captain Posts: 4807 |
posted 01-10-2003 04:58 PM
Hmmm.... we might need to know the context in which they were used. VCD, I think, is the controller on a 4-wheel-drive car that allocates what percentage of the torque goes to the front wheels and how much to the rear. SCC..... Sports Car Challenge? I'm stumped on that one too! Welcome to The Numbers! IP: Logged |
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GB24Hours Captain Posts: 4807 |
posted 01-10-2003 04:59 PM
Dang it Rikki.... beat me by a minute!  IP: Logged |
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rikki 1st Lieutenant Posts: 629 |
posted 01-10-2003 05:39 PM
quote: lol, GB! I hate it when that happens IP: Logged |
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Moppie 1st Lieutenant Posts: 985 |
posted 01-10-2003 06:26 PM
quote: Your not sure? oh dear.
VCD - Variable Center Differential. Allows the torque spit between frount and rear wheels to be adjusted on a 4WD car. LSD - Limited Slip Differential. Allocates power to both drive wheels on an axle in case of loss of traction to one wheel. SCC - Sports Car Challange. An OLR event run accross several diffent bourds and rather a lot of fun. GVS - Grand Vally Speedway, track in GT3 They are the one I can think of being thrown around at the moment. ------------------ You mean they made other games for the PS2? [This message has been edited by Moppie (edited 01-10-2003).] IP: Logged |
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GB24Hours Captain Posts: 4807 |
posted 01-10-2003 06:49 PM
quote: lol.... I never claimed to be the brightest bulb burning. IP: Logged |
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NumbOne 1st Lieutenant Posts: 723 |
posted 01-10-2003 10:09 PM
Welcome to the Numbers Dudemanjch, TCS – Traction Control System: an adjustable setting that comes as standard equipment on all cars and has a value of 5 as a default setting. TCS – Touring Car Series: an OLR series that was going on a little while ago on the OLR forum. OLR – On Line Racing: This is a little confusing because none of the racing is done on-line or over the internet. It is race by e-mail; you race at home against the AI as per normal. Then you submit the time that you got via e-mail and all the entrants’ times are ranked and posted in a results table. I think it is a good idea to have one place to post explanations of abbreviations. Then everyone can use it as a resource. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1165 |
posted 01-11-2003 07:22 PM
quote: You think that's the name? Oh dear. It was the Street Car Challenge Moppie. Remember? You ran in it. (I'm sure I'll pay for that. I'll undoubtedly make some mistakes below and Moppie will rightfully let me have it!) Other abbreviations I can think of: NA1, NA2, NA3: Naturally aspirated tuneup 1, 2 or 3. LW1 of LS1: Lightweight Stage 1 (also can be 2 or 3) I believe I've seen it posted both ways. What are the JGTC and LM cars? I'm sure they are race series, but I'm not really a race fan so I'm in the dark. Some of the race cars have LM in the name, so they must be LM cars. I think the JGTC might be cars like Tom's Supra, but I'm not sure. [This message has been edited by Nightcrawler1 (edited 01-11-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Moppie 1st Lieutenant Posts: 985 |
posted 01-12-2003 07:44 AM
quote: And I won't even have to work hard for it either JGTC: Japanese Grand Touring Car LM: Le Mans cars, some are fantasy cars, but many are real cars used to compete in the various classes in Le Mans. GTC: Grand Turismo Concept. Add on to GT3 featuring only 6 tracks, but a lot of cars extra cars from a variety of car shows since the orginal realse of GT3. It can only be played in Arcade mode, and there is one version for Japan, and one Version for UK/Asia Pasfic. Im not sure if a US version was ever released. ------------------ You mean they made other games for the PS2? IP: Logged |
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GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2605 |
posted 01-12-2003 09:42 AM
ROTFLMAO!-roll on the floor laughing my ass off - listening to my two teamates bickering IP: Logged |
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Moppie 1st Lieutenant Posts: 985 |
posted 01-12-2003 04:50 PM
Well heres a couple you might not know Jim 
TT: Total time of race LT or BL: Lap time or Best Lap time S1 or T1: Sector one time. All the tracks in GT3 have at least 2 sectors, or split time. These are displayed as you pass them, and are visable during a race, and the reply, S2, S3 etc refer to sector 2, sector 3 etc ------------------ You mean they made other games for the PS2? IP: Logged |
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GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2605 |
posted 01-12-2003 05:04 PM
I got two more for you moppie  N.Z.- New Zealand /warm and sunny N.A.- North America /frozen tundra NFL - You don't have it!  IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1165 |
posted 01-12-2003 06:14 PM
quote: This is where it gets confusing. TT can also mean Time Trial from arcade mode, usually with a number after it to show which time trial you are talking about. For the sector times, each track has 2 or 3 intermediate times as Moppie says that are commonly referred to as sectors, but if you look at a lap in the analyzer it is split into a lot more sectors, around 15 or so. These parts are definitely called sectors in the analyzer, so I'm not sure if calling the T1/T2 times sectors is a misnomer or if there are two entirely different things called sectors in the game. Ah, LM means Le Mans. That makes sense. I just had never figured it out. Is GT4 going to have a 24 hours race we can run? Putting my ignorance further on display for all to see, what is the definition of a "touring" car? I don't believe Gran Turismo Concept is ever planned to be released in the U.S. (U.S. means United States of America [This message has been edited by Nightcrawler1 (edited 01-12-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Psyfalcon 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1459 |
posted 01-12-2003 06:57 PM
They better have LeMans and the race moddled!!!!!!!! There are a few Lemans games butthey all seem to be older... Touring car... odd sets of cars, how can some cars be so different and all still be "touring" cars. IP: Logged |
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Moppie 1st Lieutenant Posts: 985 |
posted 01-12-2003 06:57 PM
quote: Depends where in the world you are, and what race series you want to race in.
And NFL = Soft wussy sport. We have it here, and even export quite a few players to US teams. I know someone who just spent a season playing in the US. However we mostly play rugby, which is like NFL, but harder, faster, smarter and with no padding or helmets. ------------------ You mean they made other games for the PS2? IP: Logged |
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GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2605 |
posted 01-12-2003 07:14 PM
You tell Warren Sapp or Ray Lewis that they play a "soft wussy sport" moppie! IP: Logged |
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Moppie 1st Lieutenant Posts: 985 |
posted 01-13-2003 08:47 PM
MSE = Motor Sport Elise. ------------------ You mean they made other games for the PS2? IP: Logged |
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WasteGate 1st Lieutenant Posts: 341 |
posted 01-14-2003 06:00 AM
Touring Cars doesn't really mean much, but generally refers to saloon (sedan) car racing, usually production car based, unlike Nascar which is a silhouette formula. It varies all over the world. In Oz they use cars which are just like the Tickford Falcon in GT3, 5.0l V8 FR cars, either Ford or Holden. In Germany the cars are the Opel Astra and Mercedes CLK and Audi TT race cars from GT3 and GT3 concept. The cars have 4.0 V8 engines and are also FR. In the UK the cars are the Vauxhall Astra and the Honda Civic and MG ZS. These cars are 2.0 S4 FF (but other types are allowed), except the MG which I think is V6. Only the MG has 4 doors. There is also a European Touring Car Championship where V6 FR BMW 3 series are taking on S4 FF Alfa 156s and Seat Toledos and S5 FF Volvos. These cars are all 4 door saloons. Argentina, France, Sweden and New Zealand also have touring car series. NZ's is similar to that of Oz, Swedens will be the same as the ETCC, Argentina have their own rules and the French prefer Silhouette racing. In short Touring Cars is just a broad term covering racing of modified everyday road cars. The definitions vary widely from country to country and have also changed a lot over the last 30 years. IP: Logged |
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Moppie 1st Lieutenant Posts: 985 |
posted 01-14-2003 08:17 PM
quote: Actualy the Kiwi one is the most varied of the lot, and differnt race's see differnt cars entered, in a variety of differnt classes. On endurance races the V8s and 2.0Ls are often raced together, where the better fuel economy, and less need for brake and tyre changes often see's the 2.0Ls winning. But none of the cars entered are particulary exotic, or that fast, and most could easily be road registered. ------------------ You mean they made other games for the PS2? IP: Logged |
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Marc Timmins 1st Lieutenant Posts: 531 |
posted 01-15-2003 07:16 AM
WTF? IP: Logged |
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rikki 1st Lieutenant Posts: 629 |
posted 01-15-2003 03:02 PM
quote: Yeah, what kind of car term or race is a WTF? IP: Logged |
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NumbOne 1st Lieutenant Posts: 723 |
posted 01-15-2003 03:32 PM
WTF - Withershins Turning Furiously: Used when you spin-out and are furiously turning withershins. You say it backwards because that is the direction you will likely end up pointing in. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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rikki 1st Lieutenant Posts: 629 |
posted 01-15-2003 03:41 PM
Of course!! IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1157 |
posted 01-16-2003 03:36 AM
Welcome Dudemanjch, a couple more for you ... T1 and T2 are sector split times as Moppie said. But ... When you buy a car, it is fited with 'Normal Tyres' (no abbreviation given). But go to the Tuning Shop and buy some better tyres, you'll see abbreviations for the various racing tyres. In fact, the Simulation and Sport tyres also have abbreviations, but you don't see those when you're buying them. Take your car for a run, and go into the Parts menu, you'll see the tyres described as: Normal Tyres I'd say T2 is more often mentioned with regard to tyre choice than split time, but of course it depends on context. T1 is seldom used in either sense. p2
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GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2605 |
posted 01-16-2003 08:08 AM
moppie, is there a Rugby game for PS2? IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1165 |
posted 01-16-2003 11:14 AM
Sorry if I made you have to change your pants P2. You must be an older gent starting to lose bladder control.  Edit: Smiley removed for P2 [This message has been edited by Nightcrawler1 (edited 01-16-2003).] IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1157 |
posted 01-16-2003 02:47 PM
NC, why did you add a smiley? It's not funny. IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1157 |
posted 01-16-2003 02:48 PM
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1157 |
posted 01-16-2003 02:53 PM
OT again ... d'oh!
quote: Mich, no point asking a Kiwi ... they might be good at rugby, but they know squat about software ... http://special.reserve.co.uk/news/story.php?id=2340 p2, IP: Logged |
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Moppie 1st Lieutenant Posts: 985 |
posted 01-16-2003 05:03 PM
quote: LOL! I just going to say I know there are several buy have no idea what any of them are called. PS2 - Playstation 2. (just to keep it on topic Kiwi - A native New Zealand bird, and one of our national symbols. Hence we get refered to as Kiwis. [This message has been edited by Moppie (edited 01-16-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1165 |
posted 01-17-2003 11:45 AM
quote: I never realized it was a bird. The way it is all green, oblong,fuzzy and entirely stationary I just assumed it was a fruit. OT= Off topic. I have to admit I was a little slow on that one. IP: Logged |
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rikki 1st Lieutenant Posts: 629 |
posted 01-17-2003 09:30 PM
Gosh, and all this time I thought Kiwi was a kind of shoe polish !IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 559 |
posted 07-04-2003 03:44 PM
Seeing as how everyone here seems to have an affinity for abbreviating, I figured I'd post the abbreviations I personally use (some not very often though). Feel free to contribute your own or comment on mine. Tracks: AHR = Apricot Hill Raceway CDA = Cöte d'Azur DFR = Deep Forest Raceway GVS = Grand Valley Speedway LSR = Laguna Seca Raceway MFR = Midfield Raceway SEA = Seattle Circuit SMR = Smokey Mountain SSR11 = Special Stage Route 11 SSR5 = Special Stage Route 5 SAR = Swiss Alps TCR = Tahiti Circuit TMZ = Tahiti Maze TMR/TMC = Trial Mountain (T)R246 = Tokyo Route 246 *-II = a reverse course
ITR = Honda Integra Type R 98 spec (not to be confused w/ the Acura Integra Type R, which is a different car and has no abbreviation) ATR = Honda Accord Euro R (yeah, I know it doesn't make sense; derived from "Accord Type R") CTR = Honda Civic Type R (EK) (not the Ruf CTR2) SCTR = Spoon Civic Type R CTR2 = Ruf CTR2 TS6 = TVR Tuscan Speed 6 CS12 = TVR Cerbera Speed 12 VRS = Toyota Vitz/Yaris RS 1.5 S2K(V) = Honda S2000 (type-v) FC(3S) = Mazda Savanna RX-7 Infini III VR4 = Mitsubishi 3000GT/GTO VR-4 (either one) E#/Evo# = Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution # Z33 = Nissan Z Concept (aka 350Z, not to be confused with...) Z32 = Nissan 300ZX/Fairlady Z AE86(SS) = Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex (Shigeno Version) SW20GTS = Toyota MR2 GT-S SW20GL = Toyota MR2 G-limited ZZW30 = Toyota MR-S S edition RSI = Volkswagen New Beetle RSI
LW# = lightweight stage # turbo# = turbo kit stage # na# = na tune up stage # BBC = Brake Balance Controller (not British Broadcasting Company p2 )p(&)p = port & polish FEB = Full Engine Balancing CDS = Carbon Driveshaft TM1 = Sports Transmission TM2 = Semi-race Transmission TM3 = Full-race Transmission TN = Normal Tires TR = Rally Tires Other: ET = Elapsed Time (as in "of a race") BL/FL = Best Lap / Fastest Lap TA# = Time Attack # / Time Trail #
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eggmann 1st Lieutenant Posts: 105 |
posted 08-07-2003 09:50 AM
I had one to add: ASM= Anti-Steering Mechanism. Technical term for it, of course is Active Stability Management, buy I think my definition sounds better. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Dango Officer of the Bridge Posts: 1891 |
posted 08-09-2003 04:05 AM
quote: Then also make something of LSD like Lap Slow Down. IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 559 |
posted 08-09-2003 05:11 AM
quote: OFFTOPIC: I seriously want to know how you drive so goddamn fast with no LSD. ------------------ Button's Brigade IP: Logged |
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Dango Officer of the Bridge Posts: 1891 |
posted 08-09-2003 09:08 AM
quote: Because I'm a bad driver. A good driver feels the difference of adjustments to the car's setup. LSD doesn't do jack for me, except maybe take some acceleration away and thus slow me down. I've tried with LSD for a long time, honest. I've tried different people's setups. I've tried reading into the subject, posted in various threads but it just won't make any difference in lap time. Keep in mind that we're talking software here, not actual RL racing. If it wouldn't make a difference in real life racing - then why spend millions on development? By the way - one of the all time fastest people I had the honor to race with, Egag substituted in last year's GTRC, XC class and his LSD settings were always 5/5/5. At that point I stopped trying to find a difference for the darn LSD and simply worked on my line and also learned to find suspension setups that I was happy with. Finally, just because LSDs in real life racing are set to for example 10/40/20 and the driver likes it doesn't mean you or I as online racers will have to do that too in the virtual world just because that is what works in real life physics. As I said before, we're talking software here and while GT3 is probably the best simulation available (until GT4 hopefully) it's still only close to the real thing; and we as drivers are as different in what we like in a setup as real life racers are. Work on your tuning skills. Try other's setups. Find out what suits you; nobody is going to say 'this is all wrong' if you drive with an LSD of 60/60/60 and feel comfortable with that. At least, nobody should. IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 559 |
posted 08-09-2003 07:00 PM
I hear what you're saying, Dango, it's just it baffles everything I know about running high hp in GT3... I don't remember if you ran the spot, but the one that was non-race-bodies on Trial Mtn. in Arcade Mode (SR32 or around there), I ran a 350Z concept at like 590hp... and my first few attempts, I tried running it with no LSD, but the Z is quite the torque monster, and any time I hit the gas off a corner, the rear end would try to take the race lead ------------------ Button's Brigade IP: Logged |
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GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2605 |
posted 08-09-2003 07:51 PM
I'm with Dango on this one. If I buy it(LSD), I always set it at 5/5/5. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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