Ford ST Omnibus thread--FoST, FiST, FoRS, etc

[Sad, little man]

Certainly makes the ST look like a steaming pile of doo-doo. Can't wait to hear specifics on it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-5HKThVcYw

[LHutton]

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2016-ford-focus-rs-engine-details-reveal-date-and-video


According to latest indications, the third-generation Focus RS is again likely to be front-wheel drive. It will draw its power from a turbocharged 2.3-litre, four-cylinder EcoBoost engine seen in the recently launched Mustang.

A power output of about 330bhp has been mooted for the RS, while a limited-slip differential and Ford’s innovative, torque-steer-reducing RevoKnuckle front suspension system will again feature in its mechanical specification.

[Sad, little man]

Now I can say this... It's AWD. (And 320hp). :D

http://jalopnik.com/2016-ford-focus-rs-this-is-your-320-hp-awd-monster-ha-1683323602

Oh and it has a genuine manual trans.

[novicius]

:up: :up:

[LHutton]

It's AWD.
The Escort Cosworth has been reborn.:cool:

Any word on weight?

[Kchrpm]

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2017-ford-focus-rs-official-photos-and-info-news


The other significant number we don’t have yet is the RS’s weight. The additional bulk of the four-wheel-drive system means the RS is certain to tip the scales at more than the 3234 pounds of our long-term Focus ST.

[LHutton]

At a guess we're looking at >3400lb then.

[LHutton]

Is it going to use the same open deck 2.3 as the Mustang?

[Random]

Ken Block hoons one about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-mhyUAaqE

I assume that isn't the stock exhaust, but anything is possible... ;)

(SRT-4 had no moofler after the cat, IIRC. Maybe this is the same? :D :D)

[TheBenior]

My Mazdaspeed3 was the same way. No muffler, just 2 resonators.

[Phil_SS]

Fuck yes!

[KillerB]

The 500 Abarth is like that, too.

[SkylineObsession]

They shoulda done this bloody ages ago, but still - about time! :D

[Kchrpm]

The specs came out last week, but we all forgot to update this thread.

http://wot.motortrend.com/1506_official_2016_ford_focus_rs_makes_345_hp_324_ lb_ft.html


The 2016 Ford Focus RS hatchback’s 2.3-liter engine puts out 345 hp and 324 lb-ft of torque...
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That’s a whole 35 hp more than the 2.3-liter turbo-four makes in the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, and Ford says the engine is “significantly upgraded” for use in the Focus RS.
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The engine has a redline of 6,800 rpm, and the max torque output of 324 lb-ft is produced between 2,000 and 4,500 rpm. The Focus RS also has an overboost feature that can provide up to 346 lb-ft for 15 seconds at a time.

[Jason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znpHcrMTHdk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znpHcrMTHdk

[Freude am Fahren]

I was about to seriously ask if that was some kind of overdubbed joke, before I saw the title.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G35FZ5r0gs4

[Jason]

I couldn't find the other one that had normal audio, either way, I want it.

I'll just have to make my FiST nasty :)

[Godson]

I'll just have to make my FiST nasty :)


Let me know how the ladies like that...

[21Kid]

The Focus RS also has an overboost feature that can provide up to 346 lb-ft for 15 seconds at a time.

NOS?!?

[thesameguy]

Volvo started doing that in the '90s, and Ford continued the tradition even after they dumped Volvo off on the side of the road sticky, broken, and confused.

[JoshInKC]

Yeah, my Cruze has an "overboost" function like that too. It's kinda nice if you're merging onto a highway from a standstill.

[Jason]

I think overboost is limited to 20 seconds on the FiST during wide open throttle... which I can't imagine ever running into hah.

[21Kid]

Open Throttle FiSTing? Sounds intriguing?




Have a video? :D

[Jason]

The builder leaked on to Ford's site, not sure if it's still up, but ~$35,700 as base price, can be optioned up to ~$42k.

[Random]

Are you going to post pics of your FiST eroticar when complete? :D

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12321544_1227895943955038_4707637632794076196_n.jp g?oh=4dd99dbcb2460debf3e1a79e2923995c&oe=571FB1C8

[21Kid]

Hawt! A++++ Would Bang!

[Jason]

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12321544_1227895943955038_4707637632794076196_n.jp g?oh=4dd99dbcb2460debf3e1a79e2923995c&oe=571FB1C8

Unnnnngggggggggg :o

[Random]

I know, right? Dem flares... :o

[Jason]

I know, right? Dem flares... :o

I want to discuss this, but I feel like we should move these posts to another thread so not to completely threadjack :up: Is there a FiST thread?

[Rare White Ape]

The thread you're looking for is right here, baby.

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42426&stc=1&d=1239553348

[Random]

It is now.. ;)

[Jason]

Mmmmm EcoBeast

So, truth be told, I've been incredibly bored with life lately, so I've been spending way too much time (and probably in the future money) on mods ;)

The wide body/flare stuff I've seen on the FiST rally/racers is so freaking rad that I want something similar for the street, but most of it is damned ugly. A couple I found that are pretty good though (imo):

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s389/Snamontgomery/CCBFD334-8F3F-45FC-BEE2-6F7294CA4C45_zps10wocjiq.jpg

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s389/Snamontgomery/3D361457-44B7-4C2B-93DB-164E3282F349_zpsv7kagpww.jpg

http://www.fiestast.org/forum/attachments/fiesta-st-appearance/2864d1401983841-check-out-wide-body-st-uk-wide-body-fiesta-st-2.jpg

http://www.fiestastforum.com/gallery/data/502/medium/wide-body-fiesta-st-4.jpg

The white is probably a bit too aggressive, I actually dig the black... but both are 3 door obviously, and following weblinks down the rabbit hole leads me nowhere :lol:

[Random]

White is the actual rally car, no?

[Random]

Here's the Ken Block/US Rallycross version: http://www.pumaspeed.com/product-Ford-Fiesta-Mk7-Bodykit-by-Olsbergs-MSE-as-used-by-Ken-Block_911.jsp

Sounds like the actual M-Sport-prepped rally cars are all custom work. :(

[Jason]

Wonder what "some extra work" means haha

Oh wait, that's for the previous gen.. kinda. Before they went to the big grill.

[Jason]

http://www.pumaspeed.com/product-Ford-Fiesta-RS-2015-Look-A-Like-Front-Bumper-Mk75_16819.jsp

Then there's this :lol:

http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/saved/Fiesta_RS400_by_pumaspeed.jpg

[Random]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzzo5N3_xo

[21Kid]

does. not. look. stock. :drool:

[Jason]

Dat sound.

[Random]

Brap!

[Random]

So today I get pulled over in walnut creek.
I saw no reason for it. But it went like this.
Officer
"I pulled you over for your bov"
Me
"Oh I didn't know it was loud or illegal"
Officer
"It's to my discretion if it is or isn't. But I just wanted to make sure you had the power to have an excuse to have one"
Haha best cop ever.


Ha.

[thesameguy]

What.

[Jason]

:lol:

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIzkQCFfF94

Interesting for those wanting to do front suspension swap/upgrades.

[Random]

"The entire engine is in front of the front axle centerline." "Just like a FWD car." Duh?

"All this tupperware." It's the cowl, Terry. Most cars have them.

[Jason]

:lol:

[Yw-slayer]

I have to say that even I would definitely buy the Focus RS over the current STI.

[Freude am Fahren]

Yeah, I think I would too. I hope the '18 STi gets a new engine. And maybe a hatchback can come back at least in the next gen proper.

[Random]

And maybe they can bring over the Levorg. *grumble*

[The359]

And maybe they can bring over the Levorg. *grumble*

Hear hear. Hell, it should come here just for the awesome name.

[Freude am Fahren]

I'd really like to drive a Focus RS, because I kinda want one, but it'd have to knock my socks off to get $40k+ out of me.

[thesameguy]

We tried to get a test drive today as a nearby dealer has one in stock, but they told us to piss off. We're arrived in a FiST, which we thought might count for something. Next week we're going to try again and borrow the Quattroporte. :lol:

[Godson]

Lol. That should work. But who knows, a shitty dealer is a shitty dealer.

[thesameguy]

These guys always have the hot Fords and never give test drives. Back in the day it was pulling teeth just to get some wheel time in a Focus SVT. I didn't even ask what the asking price was, but these numbskulls are Home of the $100k Mustang. so probably not cheap. :smh:

Someday there is going to be a Jalopnik article about a California dealer being liquidated and having a warehouse full of undriven, 20 year old tuner Fords and the internet will go wild.

[Jason]

I don't understand the reasoning behind not allowing test drives... do they not want to sell cars? Sure there's a risk of abuse, but I feel like they care about that, they can figure out ways to mitigate without giving potential customers a hard time.

[Kchrpm]

Abuse and mileage. Someone that comes in wanting a rare, expensive car might care if it has 10 miles vs 30 or 40. Also joy riders. Also, if they're only getting a few in, and you need to test drive it before you buy it, you're less likely to be the emotional buyer that's going to bend over and take whatever price/financing they throw at you.

[thesameguy]

Yeah, that stuff. But in the case of that SVT I had intended to buy... if they had not wasted my time to point I had to leave, I would have. It's insane to expect anyone to buy any car without a drive of the specific car or a very clear return policy. ;)

I see both sides of the equation, but as the consumer mine one side is more important.

[Jason]

Abuse and mileage. Someone that comes in wanting a rare, expensive car might care if it has 10 miles vs 30 or 40. Also joy riders. Also, if they're only getting a few in, and you need to test drive it before you buy it, you're less likely to be the emotional buyer that's going to bend over and take whatever price/financing they throw at you.

I can't imagine someone not test driving a car before buying :|

[Kchrpm]

There are people buying cars before they've even been shown to anyone, or buying them at thousands of dollars over MSRP. Some people have more money/adrenaline than brains.

[Godson]

Happens with bikes all the time.

[Freude am Fahren]

Yeah, especially in cities. Down here no one (short of maybe BMW?) will let you test ride. And Demo days are very rare.

As for cars, I technically didn't drive the BRZ before buying it. No one was giving test drives in them either in 2013. Luckily Scion greets you with a "wanna drive it?" :)

[Godson]

Yeah. The dealer here that I frequented before I tried to check out was very friendly to test rides on pretty much anything except numbered limited editions.

[neanderthal]

The Honda Africa Twin i bought was with no test ride. The only thing i had done was sit on the first one in the US at Huntington Beach Honda, and only for a minute or so. I missed the Long Beach Motorcycle show where they had a couple of models to sit on.

[GB]

I can't imagine someone not test driving a car before buying :|
I have bought a couple cars long distance without test driving.

[Jason]

You people are weird. :P

[Yw-slayer]

I bought my BRZ without a test drive. I would probably do the same for something like a Focus RS if I had to.

[novicius]

Bought my D675 without a test drive (but I had ridden a few others on earlier dealer-hosted Demo Day rides).

[Jason]

Apparently I'm the weird one. :|

[Kchrpm]

So am I. I almost bought a car without test driving it, because I had test driven a car just like it a couple days before, and I would have been screwed because the seats were too tight for even my 6'0", 180 lbs friend.

[thesameguy]

I'd buy a rare car I was committed to and had no choice, and I'd buy a cheap car I could get back out of and not care, but a commodity production car? Hells no. Seat time or no dime. In part, it's the principle of the matter - if you want me to trust you that it's a good product, you're going to need to trust me that I'm going to take care of it. If we can't have that relationship, you can fuck right off.

[TheBenior]

I bought my Ducati Monster 696 without a test ride, but that sort of thing is a little more common in the motorcycle world.

[thesameguy]

I sort of get it in that arena - the opportunity for failure on a motorcycle seems quite a bit higher. Especially sport bikes. I will say I had no problem test riding a bunch of scooters back in the gas crisis days. :D

[Freude am Fahren]

Plus, it's easier to just ride away. Unless the salesman sits bitch :lol:

[thesameguy]

Note to self: Open motorcycle dealership where all the salespeople are chicks with DTSTs and the test drives flow like water.

[Kchrpm]

I would already have a Ducati.

[Dicknose]

I got the Spyder without a test drive!
But I've test ridden all my bikes.

Talking Focus ST, there was one at a performance drive day that I did. It was the closest car to mine for times. A few AMG C63, wrx, HSV and FPV (our hot Ford and GMs), Golf R but the Focus had them all easily.

[Kchrpm]

To be honest, if I could I would buy a Grand Sport right now without driving one.

[novicius]

100-month term, y0!! :D

[21Kid]

I committed to buying my RS without seeing it in person. I test drove it on the way to the bank though. :D Does that count?

[Freude am Fahren]

Drift Mode!!!1!

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XOm_dHO1--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/wsdrhhjyyha1liuitsxp.gif

http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-ford-focus-rs-driver-drift-mode-his-car-into-1786210325

[Random]

He wasn't going to make that corner in any mode.

[Godson]

Lol. #TruthSerum

[balki]

He wasn't going to make that corner in any mode.
In Polyphony's Gran Turismo mode he would have, and gone faster, too!

[Jason]

Jesus thats a lot of speed

[21Kid]

wuss

[speedpimp]

Got a letter from Ford for a free session at ST Octane Academy. When they put up the dates for next year I will seriously consider attending.

[XHawkeye]

Would've tried to make it but for my wife to attend, not participate, just eat lunch and stand/sit around was $400.

[Kchrpm]

http://jalopnik.com/vicious-scourge-of-fiesta-sts-now-sends-wrath-towards-i-1786540697

[Kchrpm]

http://jalopnik.com/a-ford-focus-rs-will-brake-so-hard-the-pads-will-light-1786640045

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--W_FGBagS--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/wnmn1wv2cobm2qxovcly.png

[Random]

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/fiesty-ford-fiesta-st-finally-gets-five-doors/

UK might be "finally" getting the 5-dr FiST.

The grass is always greener... :lol:

[Jason]

Hey, its certainly handy having those extra doors in a variety of situations, can't blame them.

For me, personally, I could easily live without 'em.

[speedpimp]

I like it because its easier to load things in the backseat.

[Alan P]

I very nearly got FiSTed in the past few days. It's just too small for me and my kids, now 15 and 17. They have difficulty getting in the back and there's not enough room in the back for me with the seat comfortable and anyone behind me. :(

[Jason]

Tell them to walk.

[neanderthal]

Tell them to walk.

:up:


Or catch a bus.

[Godson]

FoST

[Yw-slayer]

Or a bike.

[speedpimp]

Looking at winter tires for my FiST and plan on going down to either 15"s or 16"s. The part that gets me is having to buy new TPMS sensors. Wish I could do without those.

[Alan P]

FoST

Too much at the moment. So it looks like I'm going to be 227HP Golf'd.

[Alan P]

And the golf has been sold. God damnit. Thinking about a Focus Zetec S with the 180HP 1.6 Ecoboost turbo now. Just need to find one.

[Yw-slayer]

Previous gen Focus ST?

[Alan P]

Way too thirsty and far too high on road tax. Nice though.

[Jason]

Looking at winter tires for my FiST and plan on going down to either 15"s or 16"s. The part that gets me is having to buy new TPMS sensors. Wish I could do without those.

Nothing stops you from driving around without them. You just have the light on your dashboard all the time.

Not sure if it impacts your inspections or not.

[speedpimp]

No inspections here at all. And it would save $150.

[TheBenior]

I didn't get TPMS sensors on my first set of winter wheels for my Mazdaspeed3 because they were new and expensive in 2008 (something like $360 for a set, IIRC).

[Random]

If you park close enough to your stock wheels each morning, and then drive less than ~20 miles, the TPMS light doesn't go on. :D

But yeah, it's just a light (and a ding! from the info center). Unlike some cars that go into limp mode... (!!)

[TheBenior]

But yeah, it's just a light (and a ding! from the info center). Unlike some cars that go into limp mode... (!!)
Should I just assume that the cars that would go into limp mode are German?

[Yw-slayer]

Way too thirsty and far too high on road tax. Nice though.

Focus ST TDCi? http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/ford/ford-focus-st-diesel-2015-review/

[Jason]

If you park close enough to your stock wheels each morning, and then drive less than ~20 miles, the TPMS light doesn't go on. :D

But yeah, it's just a light (and a ding! from the info center). Unlike some cars that go into limp mode... (!!)

I feel like that causes more danger than the TPMS is supposed to prevent...

[Kchrpm]

Should I just assume that the cars that would go into limp mode are German?

I have heard the stability control on the C7 includes tire pressures in its calculations, perhaps any limp modes would be related to that.

[Random]

I have heard the stability control on the C7 includes tire pressures in its calculations, perhaps any limp modes would be related to that.

Yeah, the Vettes are somewhat notorious for this in autocross circles. Lots of discussion about how to get around that "feature" when running a second set of competition wheels/tires.

[Alan P]

If I get a Focus with the same engine as the Fiesta ST, does that make me a part member? Honorary perhaps?

[thesameguy]

YOU DON'T GET A TROPHY FOR TRYING!

[Jason]

You get disappointment, that's what you get. :mad:

[21Kid]

:lol:

[Alan P]

:)

This is the car I'm looking at tomorrow. https://www.gumtree.com/p/ford/ford-focus-zetec-s-182/1192661751

[speedpimp]

Nice.

[21Kid]

Sorry this ad is no longer available.

[Alan P]

He took it down because I bought it. :)

I will take some photos tomorrow because it's now dark outside.

[Yw-slayer]

Nice one, mate! :up:

[Alan P]

http://i.imgur.com/Px91a7T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZzlTaUZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KK5L1vo.jpg


It's a Focus Zetec S with the 1.6l Ecoboost putting out 182PS or about 180HP. £7.8k in a private sale with 38k on the clock and I'm very happy with it.

[FaultyMario]

That's nice man.

[Jason]

Remove the rear seats so you can save weight to get closer to a FiST. Tell the kids they can sit on the floor.

[thesameguy]

You can also just use bungees and the trunk tie downs.

[Yw-slayer]

Sweet! Very low mileage too.

[Random]

Interesting mix of FiST and Focus elements: Focus body with the bigger ST hatch spoiler, the FiST rear bumper "diffuser," and the turbo-1.6.

Neat. :)

(But not an ST--eff off! :finger:)

(However, you are eligible for membership into the GTX Black Turbo HB Club, if it's any consolation? :rawk:)

[Alan P]

My old car was also black and turbo charged so I'm already a member. :)

[Random]

:up:

[speedpimp]

If the ST is the GTX than the ST180 is the Road Runner?

[KillerB]

Judging by the conversation I had this week with a friend who is management at a local Ford dealer, I could cut a deal on a 39 month lease on a Fiesta ST for zero down and about $250 a month, before tax.

I've just got A) nowhere to put it, and B) no use for it.

:sadbanana:

[Mirage]

Looking hard at 2016 Kona blue Focus ST with the ST3 package. Tired of the xterra and just want something new for once.

[speedpimp]

Can't go wrong with either a FiST or a FoST.

[Random]

:up:

[Random]

Newest FiST: http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/24/new-ford-fiesta-st-official-three-cylinder-197-hp/

TL;DR:
197hp
1.5-liter 3-cyl
Moar torques
Port injection and DI
18" wheels (good grief)

[speedpimp]

Interesting. The 17"s are almost too much, let alone 18"s. Definitely intrigued.

[KillerB]

A well-tuned triple can make a really fun noise. It's really not much smaller than the outgoing 1.6L, and it's not like the old engine was a revver, so bigger displacement-per-cylinder doesn't seem like much of a detriment.

[thesameguy]

It has been revealed we may get both 3-door and 5-door this time around. I think that makes a lot of people happy, but I'd still for the 5-door. :)

I can't wait for one of these to get wrecked. If it happens fast enough I am totally putting a 3-cylinder Ecoboost in the Falcon.

[speedpimp]

Why not just wait for a totaled RS and drop that drive train into the Flaco?

[KillerB]

I want a FoST drivetrain in a SWB Transit Connect. :lol:

[thesameguy]

Why not just wait for a totaled RS and drop that drive train into the Flaco?

200hp and 2100lbs is a plenty good formula for a tin can like the Falcon! Putting a tiny 3cyl where big ass 6 was is just icing on the cake. ;)

[Random]

200hp and 2100lbs is a plenty good formula for a tin can like the Falcon! Putting a tiny 3cyl where big ass 6 was is just icing on the cake. ;)

Would probably have enough room for a frunk with the wee 3-cyl up there. :D

[thesameguy]

At least! I think the biggest problem would be fitting the accessories, since the shock towers would be directly in the way. OTOH, with a 3-cylinder it would probably be very front-mid-engine, and I probably don't need power steering and there is no air conditioning. So, just an alternator and water pump. I suspect the F:R balance would be extraordinary. :D

[Random]

It's a pretty tight package front/rear. I think you'd have plenty of room.

(TWSS?)

edit: FiST is electric power steering. Maybe carry that over too?

[thesameguy]

I wouldn't rule it out, but all the power steering kits are really pricey. For a car that light, I'm not sure it'd be worth the money!

[novicius]

Why don't you just look for a 2014 Ford Fiesta SFE drivetrain at one of the Armenian scrapyards for the Falcon? Get that cheaper mill to work sooner? ;)

[thesameguy]

If it's going to be a 4 cylinder, I'd just as soon stick with the Duratec that has numerous configuration & installation options rather than go to the added trouble of a direct-injected, expensive engine. ;)

[novicius]

SFE is the EcoBoost 1.0L three-cylinder.

[thesameguy]

Whoops, didn't see that SFE bit! Do you know what (if any) internal and/or software differences there between that and the current 200hp version?

[novicius]

Probably a lot! :lol:

Nope, I don't know. But Ford has a long, long history of fiddlin' with their motors from year-to-year. Quite possible they've made structural changes to the 1.0L block between the two generations, much less internals like rods, pistons, crank, variable cam timing hardware, sensors, etc.

[thesameguy]

They do - and their software security keeps getting better! Unless a big player like Cobb gets involved with tuning, hacking the ECMs can be a problem. Totally relevant point: The one or two year only ECM in the '05 Focus I parted isn't very tunable at all. :(

[KillerB]

Well, there's the internal differences that punch the three-cylinder out to 1.5L in the 2018 FiST for starters...

[thesameguy]

Oh, snap... I suppose there is that! :lol:

I wonder if the deck height is different? Probably gotta be...

[novicius]

1.5L? Damn, takes away some of the magic that is a torquey 1.0L turbo triple. :hard: #hustle

[thesameguy]

1.5l still falls into the magic ".5l per cylinder" so it should be a nice runner.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6zr63ZW0AAT_lR.jpg:large

pic.twitter.com/RJwD9KuLhd

[KillerB]

:lol:

[speedpimp]

The new fiST triple will sometimes work as a twin. (http://autoweek.com/article/technology/fords-15-liter-turbo-3-cylinder-features-cylinder-deactivation?utm_source=DailyDrive20170314&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_term=headline-center&utm_content=body&utm_campaign=awdailydrive)

[novicius]

Wow that's damn impressive... :up: :up:

[Random]

The NVH work on that has to be pretty amazing.

[TheBenior]

Well, parallel twins aren't quite as bad as V-Twins for vibration... :Lol:

[Random]

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2017/03/29/ford-issues-three-safety-recalls-and-one-safety-compliance-recal.html

I think this was already brought up in The Garage (or maybe just on Facebook?). Anyhow...

6/15 build date for my car, so I'm (in theory) good.

[speedpimp]

Was at the dealer this morning getting my FiST looked at and wandered around the showroom where they had a FoRS. Next to the normal window sticker was one for dealer added options and this one read "Adjusted Market Value $2500." So $45k all in. No thanks. It looks really good in Grabber Blue though.

[Random]

They are selling at or below MSRP out here now, particularly if you get a '16.

[KillerB]

I wish I had a reason to get a FiST. 👊

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DByjBLIWAAA9k0S.jpg:large

Lower than the door mirrors of a Ford Focus RS... #Ford #GT40 pic.twitter.com/PKIGHfzg3x

[novicius]

Nice... but it's the lack of attention to detail that triggers my OCD: no matching sail-panel stripe on the FoRS. :smh:

[Kchrpm]

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/27/2017-ford-fiesta-st-discounts-boost-fun-for-the-money-factor/


A new Fiesta ST in Maryland was available with a $4,500 discount, providing a selling price of $18,664 plus necessary taxes, title and license fees. Ford's $750 customer cash is a part of that, as is $500 in 'Bonus Cash'. But we also assume you can dicker your way to further discounts, down into the $17s, and, well, who knows. The sales manager we spoke with assured us we could assume whatever we wanted.

[thesameguy]

Shessh!

[Jason]

Re: FiST

The 2017 is the last model, Ford won't be bringing the 2018 Fiesta lineup to the US.

Rumor has it, to be replaced with some sort of CUV here, but who knows.

[GB]

http://www.ritcheycadillacbuickgmc.com/VehicleDetails/used-2014-Ford-Fiesta-5dr_HB_ST-Daytona_Beach-FL/3005263173#close

http://inventory-dmg.assets-cdk.com/1/9/6/14861120691x640.jpg

[XHawkeye]

I own another collectors item. :)

[speedpimp]

If that's the case then fuck Ford.

[Random]

From Jeremy Clarkson's review of the Civic Type R:


Is it as much fun as the Ford Fiesta ST? No, it isn’t. I know of no car that is more fun on an ordinary road than the Fiesta.


:hard:

[novicius]

:up: :up:

[XHawkeye]

:up: :up: :up:

[speedpimp]

FAWK YEAH!

[XHawkeye]

http://cdn1.evo.co.uk/sites/evo/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/2017/02/ford_2017_fiesta_st_02.jpg?itok=U6UVcrhs


The new Ford Fiesta ST is due to arrive in Ford showrooms in early 2018.

Power will come from a 1.5-litre three-cylinder turbocharged engine producing 197bhp. That’s a 19bhp increase on the old ST and the same output as the previous generation ST200. Incidentally, the new ST’s 214lb ft of torque is the same as the old ST200 model and helps the car accelerate from 0-62mph in 6.7sec.

http://www.evo.co.uk/ford/fiesta-st/18913/new-2018-ford-fiesta-st-specs-and-latest-details-on-ford-s-new-hot-hatch

[Godson]

We don't get it here. :(

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DclBxN7X4AAXpAD.jpg

We’ve driven Ford’s new Fiesta ST, the question is can it live up to its predecessor’s reputation of being one of the very best superminis? http://www.evo.co.uk/ford/fiesta-st/21220/new-ford-fiesta-st-2018-review-fast-ford-hits-the-spot …

[Phil_SS]

https://youtu.be/aMqS2RLdTp8

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1JlF6cWwAEhWeP.jpg

The Focus ST is getting very cheap at the auction. Average is almost into the 4-digits. (https://twitter.com/hoonable/status/1104056041673773056)

[Alan P]

They start at around £9k here too. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?sort=price-asc&radius=1500&postcode=eh546bh&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&make=FORD&model=FOCUS&fuel-type=Petrol&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.0&maximum-badge-engine-size=2.0&zero-to-60=TO_8