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Kchrpm
June 13th, 2016, 10:27 AM
http://kotaku.com/forza-horizon-3-will-take-things-to-australia-1781893025

Australia, four player campaign co-op, lots of craziness including trophy trucks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTSUgXkfooA

thesameguy
June 13th, 2016, 10:30 AM
Campaign co-op? WHAAAAAAAAAAAA?

Jason
June 13th, 2016, 10:32 AM
Two things I hoped for:

- Rearview mirror in bumper cam
- Lower the effectiveness of non-offroad cars when attempting offroad

While the game looks amazing... I'm not hopeful of the above :lol:

Freude am Fahren
June 13th, 2016, 11:21 AM
Speaking of Horizon, I've been waiting for Horizon 2 to get to the cheap bin, but it's still $50. WTF is that?

novicius
June 13th, 2016, 11:39 AM
I'm in. :up: :up:

After the literal pain of FM6, I think I'm going to be a dirty casual racer for the rest o' my days. :lol:

Rare White Ape
June 13th, 2016, 01:01 PM
Hah! Cool. It'll be a very condensed Australia, I'd imagine. Looks like most of it is set in Victoria.

I'll give it five seconds before some road safety wags start making noises about it being worse than terrorism to encourage young people to race on our highways.

Jason
June 13th, 2016, 01:37 PM
I'm in. :up: :up:

After the literal pain of FM6, I think I'm going to be a dirty casual racer for the rest o' my days. :lol:

Do we have many here with FH2?

I have yet to play it online, I don't really understand it.

Tom Servo
June 13th, 2016, 02:34 PM
I've got FH2, but I still can't seem to get my XBone to connect to XBL reliably. Got a new router on the way tomorrow, see if that fixes things for me.

GreatScawt
June 13th, 2016, 04:07 PM
I absolutely cannot fucking wait for this game. Cross play? Yessss. My buddy can play on his X1 and I can continue playing at 2K :up:

animalica
June 13th, 2016, 05:21 PM
Before I buy a One I would prefer to buy the Win 10 version in the meantime.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/06/13/forza-horizon-3-announced-coming-to-windows-10 (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/06/13/forza-horizon-3-announced-coming-to-windows-10/)

SkylineObsession
June 13th, 2016, 09:57 PM
I have Horizon 2 and have played online a couple times.

But think i'm almost gonna pre-order this, since it is so close to home. :D

Shame though that they didn't land in the south island of New Zealand, as they could almost (not really) include the whole island in a game since game maps are getting bigger.

thesameguy
June 13th, 2016, 10:16 PM
What.

Phil_SS
June 14th, 2016, 06:10 AM
That looks effin fantastic!

TDU was awesome for just cruising around with your friends and I hope they have that option in this game.

21Kid
June 14th, 2016, 06:31 AM
Do we have many here with FH2?

I have yet to play it online, I don't really understand it.

I have it. I had some fun w/Carlo, Dennis, and a few others. It's a lot fun when you get a few people on the same team. :) Let me know if you want to play. I've been wanting to play it again for a while now.

Kchrpm
June 14th, 2016, 06:36 AM
I predict putting an absurd number of miles on a Grand Sport.

novicius
June 14th, 2016, 08:17 AM
Yeah FH2 is one of the few games I've kept. Hit me up! :up:

Jason
June 14th, 2016, 02:27 PM
But what do you do???

thesameguy
June 14th, 2016, 09:40 PM
Get points and dollars by hooning so you can get better cars to get more points and dollars. For more hooning.

21Kid
June 15th, 2016, 05:54 AM
Online Free Roam is pretty similar to the single player game. You drive to a location for a race/challenge, or just mess around if you want.

However, you can also join a "road trip" with friends where you vote for a car class, then race to a location for the event... I think 4 times in a row. And your score between events counts towards your total end score.

It's pretty fun.

Now I want to play again, so I'll probably be around one of the next few nights if you want to check it out. (after a rather large update, I'm sure.)

Rare White Ape
June 15th, 2016, 06:33 AM
Here's part of the map, as seen in some gameplay footage. It's obviously a bit of a condensed version of the thousands-of-kilometers-wide continent we call Australia, but hey, what are you gunna do?

http://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/k/2016/06/forza.jpg

21Kid
June 15th, 2016, 07:59 AM
So now it is an action survival game, where you have to watch out for drop bears, crocs, giant spiders, etc..?

SkylineObsession
June 15th, 2016, 02:04 PM
And the Aussies. ;)

GreatScawt
June 15th, 2016, 02:17 PM
Ugh, I want this game so bad.

RWA, where are you at? And is a version of it represented on that map?

EDIT:
Nevermind, I realize that's a silly question, as there's not too much labeled on the map.

Kchrpm
June 15th, 2016, 07:28 PM
I pulled up Australia on Google Maps and the distance between Surfer's Paradise and Maroondah Reservoir is laughable compared to that map, so I don't think anything besides landmarks will be represented.

Yobbo NZ
June 15th, 2016, 08:06 PM
Considering Yarra Valley is in Victoria & Surfers paradise is in Queensland.
A whole state apart and from my place,almost 17 hours of driving away.

Freude am Fahren
June 15th, 2016, 08:07 PM
I'm not worried though, I don't want to spend 17 hours on a highway :lol:

Kchrpm
June 16th, 2016, 03:48 AM
Q&A, with info on Drone Mode for making your own fancy videos and photos, 1000 player clubs w/hierarchy, car sharing inside of 4-player campaign co-op, widebody kits (by Rocket Bunny and Liberty Walk), and about a dozen player characters to choose from but not customize.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xzslEQUy9M

novicius
June 16th, 2016, 07:18 AM
Liberty Walk?? Day 1. :up:

Rare White Ape
June 16th, 2016, 06:25 PM
RWA, where are you at? And is a version of it represented on that map?

I'm on the Gold Coast in a suburb called Southport, which is not on the map. But my place is only a few kays from Surfers Paradise, which IS on the map, so… eh. Close enough!

Rare White Ape
June 16th, 2016, 06:26 PM
Also, get ready to learn to drive on the left, Yankee suckers! Muahahaha!

GreatScawt
June 16th, 2016, 06:41 PM
:lol: I can't wait

Kchrpm
June 16th, 2016, 07:24 PM
Also, get ready to learn to drive on the left, Yankee suckers! Muahahaha!

Crap...

SkylineObsession
June 16th, 2016, 08:44 PM
Lefty righty, righty wrongy! :D ;)


I'm on the Gold Coast in a suburb called Southport, which is not on the map. But my place is only a few kays from Surfers Paradise, which IS on the map, so… eh. Close enough!

Aahhhh, thats where that biggish mall is isn't it? Bought my current watch there a couple years ago when we were at Surfers for two weeks (then went back the next day to get the dead battery replaced...). Would have told ya's on here, but didn't know where we were going until we arrived at the airport thanks to a sneaky wife.

Wonder if there will be recognisable things. Since i'm guessing these games are based on real places surely they must add in a few iconic buildings etc.

Rare White Ape
June 17th, 2016, 02:23 PM
I recognize a few of the buildings in a very brief view of Surfers from the trailer. A BMW drives under a monorail looking north. The monorail itself is actually in Broadbeach (4km south of Surfers) but the buildings just beyond it are definitely in Surfers. It looks like they've just condensed all of the main high-risey parts of the GC into one little area. In the map I can see a very rough collection of roads that resemble the old street circuit, so you might be able to relive your mid-90's Champ Car fantasies on XBoneS if you want.

I'm surprised they didn't go for Sydney with the bridge and the Opera House to make it much easier for players to recognize iconic buildings.

Freude am Fahren
June 17th, 2016, 02:43 PM
I was thinking similar. Maybe that's still to be shown? Maybe licensing concerns?

Rare White Ape
June 17th, 2016, 06:16 PM
I really doubt there are any licencing problems to be had with things like scenery, including buildings and billboards. There might be rules around limiting how much a product purports to represent an entity, for example the Lego Sydney Opera House set wouldn't call itself the Official Lego Opera House, it would just be a model of the Opera House made by Lego, and it's a sure bet that it would be for sale in the gift shop. I mean, you can take photos of nature or a cityscape, and publish it for money, and nobody is entitled to royalties except the publisher and the photographer.

Regarding FH3, it's probably just a choice that the developer made about Surfers Paradise being a better fit for the vibe of the game than a major city is. There's Surfers, there's Byron Bay, the Twelve Apostles (now nine, thanks to erosion), Yarra Valley, etc. A bunch of stuff that's never really been featured in a video game or any worldwide mass media, whereas Sydney or NY or London, Paris, LA and so-on are constantly featured in big movies and TV shows. Interesting unrelated side-note; Vancouver is a location that is used quite a lot as a filming backdrop for other cities, but hardly ever is used as a backdrop for Vancouver.

Anyway, onto a bit of sleuthing that some people might find einteresting. Or not...

Here's the shot I mentioned earlier. Apologies for the poor quality, it's a screenshot from my phone:

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7116/27458376260_b934be09f6_b.jpg

And behold the monorail in Broadbeach from Googly Maps. More like, mono-d'oh! The monorail connects a shopping centre on the right to the casino, out of shot, back-and-to-the-left.

https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7079/27125620693_2644a417b8_b.jpg

And here's the backdrop of buildings much further up the road. The pair on the left with the angled roofing is Circle on Cavill and the pair on the right with the curved sides is the Hilton Apartments. Circle was built in 2006-7 and the Hilton was built in 2012. As you can see the road in Surfers is largely taken up by the light rail service, which was opened in 2014.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7574/27702483926_d7ab509399_b.jpg

Tom Servo
June 22nd, 2016, 03:36 PM
I know I'll play this no matter what, so pre-ordered it. Nice to see that a single pre-order buys it for both XB1 and Windows.

thesameguy
June 22nd, 2016, 04:18 PM
Thinking the same. I usually wait a bit so they can announce special editions and whatnot, but IIRC that didn't happen with FH2 so maybe it's not worth delaying this time.

Edit: Oh, I see, they already have preorders for Ultimate. And Amazon Prime is good for $20 off. WIN.

Freude am Fahren
June 22nd, 2016, 04:32 PM
Nice, I'm gonna get on that. Looks like the discount is on the disc version only, which kinda sucks, but oh well. What about the Windows version, amazon says nothing about it. Is that just standard for the game no matter where you buy it?

And how does early access work for the disc version (I assume that's what "Buy New" entails.)

thesameguy
June 22nd, 2016, 04:34 PM
Disc is release day delivery, so, like, whatever. :up:

Freude am Fahren
June 22nd, 2016, 04:44 PM
Yeah, I don't care about that really. I really just don't like messing with disks.

thesameguy
June 22nd, 2016, 04:57 PM
OIC! Definitely get that.

GreatScawt
June 22nd, 2016, 07:25 PM
So if I preorder the Ultimate edition on disc with Amazon Prime and the 20% discount... I will also get the PC version like-for-like to boot, right? RIGHT? I wanna do it.

thesameguy
June 22nd, 2016, 07:27 PM
Microsoft's page suggests so:


Forza Horizon 3 Ultimate Edition

Supports Xbox Play Anywhere: yours to play on both Xbox One and Windows 10 PC at no additional cost. ULTIMATE EDITION OWNERS WILL HAVE EARLY ACCESS TO THE GAME ON 9/23/16. PURCHASE THIS OFFER BEFORE 9/27/16 AND RECEIVE 2 CAR PACKS AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE: Forza Horizon 2 Rockstar Car Pack (Xbox One) and Forza Motorspo... Read more

Just for clarity:


Now when you own an Xbox Play Anywhere digital title, it’s yours to play on both Xbox One and Windows 10 PC.

Buy once, play anywhere

Purchase an Xbox Play Anywhere digital game, play it on both Xbox One and Windows 10 PC at no additional cost.

Progress goes with you

Pick up where you left off on another Xbox One or Windows 10 PC, bringing all your saves, game add-ons, and achievements with you.

EXCEPT NO. The physical version does not support play anywhere, only the digital download which you don't get $20 off. :down:

thesameguy
June 22nd, 2016, 07:39 PM
Also:


Forza Horizon 3 will let you stream your personal music collection into your game through Groove Music

Fuck. Yeah.

GreatScawt
June 22nd, 2016, 08:08 PM
Goddamn it...

And yup, when I click on the Amazon digital pre-purchase, this bullet point pops up that isn't on the disc version description.


Supports Xbox Play Anywhere: yours to play on both Xbox One and Windows 10 PC at no additional cost. Xbox One and Windows 10 PC exclusive

thesameguy
June 22nd, 2016, 08:13 PM
Now I have to sit back and make a decision. Is $20 worth being able to play on a PC if I ever might want to.

GreatScawt
June 22nd, 2016, 08:18 PM
Wait, Amazon has the Ultimate edition for $100, is that right?... MicrosoftStore has it for $80 AND $10 credit.

Rare White Ape
June 22nd, 2016, 10:14 PM
I remember the days when you could just buy a game and the choice was easy and that's what you got.

thesameguy
June 22nd, 2016, 10:21 PM
Wait, Amazon has the Ultimate edition for $100, is that right?... MicrosoftStore has it for $80 AND $10 credit.

Good tip!

How messed up is it that the virtual version is universally 25% more than the physical???

GreatScawt
June 23rd, 2016, 03:31 AM
Something's fucky. They need to figure out what they're doing and provide more clarity between the different bundles as well as the digital/disc limitations. I think there's confusion between deluxe and ultimate editions in the MSStore.

Xbox Store ultimate: https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/Bundle/Forza-Horizon-3-Ultimate-Edition/bf4296c8-eaf2-440e-aebe-5359e058b7cf
Xbox Store deluxe: https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/Bundle/Forza-Horizon-3-Deluxe-Edition/624443cd-feb0-4596-af14-fe040d5b9ede

MS Store "ultimate": https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Forza-Horizon-3-Ultimate-Edition-for-Xbox-One/productID.2553273900

Forza site descriptions: http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/fh3_pre-order

Kchrpm
June 23rd, 2016, 04:22 AM
Luckily I'm not that interested in any of the ultimate/deluxe/pre-order car packs, and I'm not a completionist. I'll just get the normal digital download and maybe get one or two individual DLC cars. Maybe when VIP is sold separately for $5-$10 I'll get that, too, just for the F12tdf.

21Kid
June 23rd, 2016, 05:01 AM
Yeah, there aren't that many cars that I really care about spending extra money on. The 20% off on disc vs. digital is interesting though. You'd think it would be the other way around. Because you don't have all of the shipping/storage/handling fees as a disc. And you can't resell the digital games, which means that more people would have to buy them, instead of buying used copies.

Freude am Fahren
June 23rd, 2016, 07:45 AM
Is that MS Store 79.99 +$10 credit digital or physical? Adding Windows availability would be nice. I think I can still cancel my Amazon order.

Edit: There's shipping information, so maybe physical. Still, $10 credit is nice.

thesameguy
June 23rd, 2016, 09:59 AM
It's physical. The digital is $100.

Kchrpm
July 19th, 2016, 08:43 AM
http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/exclusive-here-are-the-first-150-cars-announced-for-forza-horizon-3/

First 150 Cars Announced

I was going to copy and paste all of them, but it's predominantly FM6 holdovers. These are the ones that stand out as new as I skim the list.

2015 Chevrolet Baldwin Motorsports Monster Energy Trophy Truck
2014 Ford Ranger T6 Rally Raid
2014 Ford FPV Limited Edition Pursuit Ute
2013 MINI X-Raid All4 Racing Countryman
2015 Polaris RZR XP 1000 EPS
2016 Koenigsegg Regera
2015 Ferrari F12tdf

thesameguy
July 19th, 2016, 10:54 AM
Well, that sounds like a lot of fun!

I still have not preordered, but I will soon. Guess I'll do the digital version, as sitting next to the Xbone is that Alienware Alpha and I just got an xbone controller adapter for it. Be interested to see how xbone compares to Win10, and interested to see if the puny integrated "GTX" graphics of the Alpha is any good. :)

GreatScawt
July 19th, 2016, 12:02 PM
I absolutely want both versions. Just bummed that A) you only get both with the digital and B) there are only discounts on the physical (even Prime). Ahh well.

thesameguy
July 19th, 2016, 03:10 PM
Yeah, that's why I haven't done anything - I'm hoping something will change. It's real, real unlikely but I'll wait a bit and hope.

SkylineObsession
July 19th, 2016, 08:26 PM
Blarg. I just preordered it.

All thanks to this:
http://motoring.li.csnstatic.com/motoring/general/editorial/ge5190672403145483416.jpg
2014 Ford FPV Limited Edition Pursuit Ute

Kchrpm
July 26th, 2016, 12:40 PM
More released: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/games/forza-horizon-3-iconic-holdens-join-other-aussie-classics-in-latest-car-announcements-20160722-gqbe76

I'm guessing this is the one you guys will find most interesting: 1974 Holden Sandman HQ panel van

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/content/dam/images/g/q/d/s/4/x/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gqbe76.png/1469565418243.jpg

thesameguy
July 26th, 2016, 02:10 PM
Racing sedan delivery? HILARIOUS. :up:

SkylineObsession
July 27th, 2016, 10:12 PM
Seriously loving the amount of Aussie cars in the game. Don't think any other game has ever had that many? Someone will prove me wrong with a quick Google search though.

I'm a Ford fan in the Ford vs Holden/Chevrolet battle, but it's still great to see so many Holdens in the game too.

M4FFU
July 28th, 2016, 12:04 AM
Last game I very much enjoyed was FH2 so this is a title I will be getting. Looks like more of the same, but that's no bad thing. Think I'll opt for the VIP version as that was handy for getting bank quickly.

Rare White Ape
July 28th, 2016, 12:06 AM
Racing sedan delivery? HILARIOUS. :up:

Umm. Hardly. A new Hyundai i20 would run rings around it.

They do make good bases (basises? basies?) for chromed-up V8 hot rods though.

thesameguy
July 28th, 2016, 12:31 AM
...

?

Does hilarious mean something different there?

Rare White Ape
July 28th, 2016, 03:24 AM
You mean like "funny" or "ha-ha" funny?

Sorry TSG, I must've missed the tone of your post. I was picking on the racing sedan part and skipped over the hilarious part :/

thesameguy
July 28th, 2016, 01:36 PM
:lol: :up:

speedpimp
July 29th, 2016, 02:49 PM
Seriously loving the amount of Aussie cars in the game. Don't think any other game has ever had that many?

Dirt Track Racing Australia is the only one that comes to mind.

Kchrpm
August 2nd, 2016, 10:12 AM
Moar cars: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/entertainment/news/a30225/forza-horizon-3-car-reveal/

Phil_SS
August 2nd, 2016, 05:11 PM
So is it just me or does it not make any sense for this game to not have all the cars in Forza 6 plus anything new. And vice versa. I know I know. :)

Just doesn't make practical sense. And it kinda pisses me off.

Jason
August 2nd, 2016, 05:15 PM
So is it just me or does it not make any sense for this game to not have all the cars in Forza 6 plus anything new. And vice versa. I know I know. :)

Just doesn't make practical sense. And it kinda pisses me off.

Makes $$$ sense though. They can sell you those cars as DLC.

Jason
August 2nd, 2016, 05:16 PM
...

?

Does hilarious mean something different there?


You mean like "funny" or "ha-ha" funny?

Sorry TSG, I must've missed the tone of your post. I was picking on the racing sedan part and skipped over the hilarious part :/

Appears the answer is 'yes'

:lol:

Rare White Ape
August 3rd, 2016, 12:11 AM
Communicating with other humans has always been a harrowing experience for me.

21Kid
August 3rd, 2016, 05:21 AM
Makes $$$ sense though. They can sell you those cars as DLC.
I wonder if they have a chart that shows which cars they've charged DLC for in the last game (or two) so they don't appear to be wringing out the customer. I bet there is some rule, like "don't charge for this car as DLC two games in a row, but the third is fine." :smh:

Tom Servo
August 3rd, 2016, 09:58 AM
I guarantee they have analytics on the most commonly used cars and have picked out the ones they think are in the sweet spot where most people won't be outraged that they're available only as DLC. The game phones home every time you play, so they know exactly how often each car gets used.

thesameguy
August 5th, 2016, 10:36 AM
I'm in!

Edit: Ok, WTF.

Go to xbox.com, go to store, find FH3, choose ultimate, it says it will be shipped

Go to forzamotorsports.net, click preorder, choose ultimate, it says download only

WTF.

Kchrpm
August 16th, 2016, 12:00 PM
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/18149/forza-horizon-3-adds-aston-martin-vantage-gt12-to-car-list

This article thinks the big new additions are the Aston Martin Vantage GT12, 2017 Nissan GT-R and Cadillac CTS-V. Judge for yourself!

thesameguy
August 16th, 2016, 12:46 PM
Ultimately though, it’s the cars which make Forza Horizon exciting. Below is everything new announced this week for Horizon 3, including the just announced Vantage GT12, GT-R and Cadillac CT-S V.

I think I might disagree with this... I think I'd take better roads over more cars pretty much any day. I used to be plenty entertained by games that only had a handful of cars and I think I still would be. Yeah, I'd prefer more places to drive fewer cars than the inverse.

Kchrpm
August 16th, 2016, 12:50 PM
I was made fun of in Test Drive Unlimited for driving the Corvette Z06 and McLaren F1 and F1 GT almost exclusively. I did not mind those barbs. I have put ~6000 miles on C7.Rs in Forza 6, and I presume that's a very high percentage for my total miles (and the C7 Z06 is probably another large chunk).

Freude am Fahren
August 16th, 2016, 01:03 PM
I'd say I'm more looking forward to the 288 GTO, Focus RS, NSX-R, XJ220, and the Brat than their trio :)

Kchrpm
August 16th, 2016, 01:05 PM
I'm just waiting for the C7 Grand Sport to show up.

thesameguy
August 16th, 2016, 02:19 PM
I was made fun of in Test Drive Unlimited for driving the Corvette Z06 and McLaren F1 and F1 GT almost exclusively. I did not mind those barbs. I have put ~6000 miles on C7.Rs in Forza 6, and I presume that's a very high percentage for my total miles (and the C7 Z06 is probably another large chunk).

I tend to find a couple cars that I like best and try them everywhere I can... I came up on games like Test Drive where you had maybe five cars and graduated to Need for Speed where you had maybe eight. The initial appeal of games like GT with dozens or hundreds of cars was high, but I'm worn out on it. Whether it's GT, FM, or even GTA I more quickly reach the point where I want additional things to do rather than more things to do them in. FH2 had sufficient roads, I hope three has superfluous roads. :) Give me an FD RX7 or a nice 911 and I'm done. :)

21Kid
August 17th, 2016, 04:49 AM
Where we're going... :cool: We don't need roads!!!

Kchrpm
August 17th, 2016, 05:10 AM
Trophy Trucks vs Rally Fighter, GO!

SkylineObsession
August 17th, 2016, 08:25 PM
Getting quite hyped about this and i think it's mainly because it has the new/last ever Falcon, a lateish model Falcon ute (i'd prefer the BA FPV Pursuit and Tornado than the BF version), and based in Australia, in the Gold Coast where i've been no less (doubt i'll recognise anything other than Surfers Paradise if its in there though).

Don't know how or if Gran Turismo will be able to match the sheer variety of cars in Forza anymore, GT used to be the king of that but yeah.

GreatScawt
August 25th, 2016, 04:28 PM
Urgh, another weird snafu... pre-ordering on Amazon won't let me apply my Amazon card points. Dammit. The digital copy is "released" on 8/30, so I may just wait until then to see if it will take. #firstworldproblems

Freude am Fahren
August 25th, 2016, 05:56 PM
Weird, the disc version says it comes out Sept 23. I think I'm going to cancel my physical pre-order for digital. $20 seems worth it to get PC and nearly a month early, and not have to worry about discs.

And now it asks for a card, rather than bringing me to my billing options like normal. It won't let me use my Amazon Prime card (5% credit on purchases) because it doesn't have an expiration date I can put in. WTF?

GreatScawt
August 25th, 2016, 06:27 PM
Yup, exactly. The digital pre-order transaction page sucks a bag. That's why I'm waiting until 8/30 so I can hopefully get the standard transaction page (where I can use points, etc).
And just to confirm, 8/30 is when you get the digital code, AFAIK. Not when it's actually playable. Though if you're getting the Ultimate edition you can play it on the 23rd instead of the 27th.

But yeah, that is my thinking: forget the 20% discount, go digital, get the codes early, and get it for both PC and X1.

Rare White Ape
August 25th, 2016, 06:28 PM
doubt i'll recognise anything other than Surfers Paradise if its in there though

"Surfers Paradise" is in there, but take it from me, based on the footage I've seen, even a local would barely recognise a lot of the content in the game that they call Surfers Paradise.

Phil_SS
August 26th, 2016, 05:37 AM
I've seen a few videos from Gamescom and man does this game look beautiful.

Tom Servo
August 26th, 2016, 05:52 AM
Guess I gotta get Windows 10 one of these days. Be nice to play this with a wheel.

Freude am Fahren
August 26th, 2016, 07:08 AM
Response from Amazon:

I'm sorry to inform you that, the Amazon Games & Software Download items cannot be purchased using reward points and Amazon Store cards. .This is the reason why your order has not been processed.

Kindly change your 1-click payment method to one of the following credit cards I assure you your order should go through.

-- American Express
-- Diners Club (U.S. orders only)
-- Discover
-- MasterCard
-- Visa, Visa Electron, and Visa Check Cards

Luckily, I remembered that my Discover card gives me 5% cashback at Amazon, so it's a wash.

Tom Servo
August 26th, 2016, 07:37 AM
Kindly change your 1-click payment method to one of the following credit cards I assure you your order should go through.


It's funny how you can tell from just one sentence that you're dealing with offshore support.

Freude am Fahren
August 26th, 2016, 07:43 AM
Yeah, and there were bigger clues in the portions I left out.

Boda Zen
August 30th, 2016, 07:51 AM
Game has gone gold today and pc specs were released. I'm below the recommended with a gtx 960. Should still do Ok though. Also we are getting the warthog! As long as you've played halo 5 or the Mc collection you'll get a code starting next week. Way excited for this game. I'm a horizon fan boy though. http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/fh3_gonegold

Boda Zen
August 30th, 2016, 07:58 AM
Game has gone gold today and pc specs were released. I'm below the recommended with a gtx 960. Should still do Ok though. Also we are getting the warthog! As long as you've played halo 5 or the Mc collection you'll get a code starting next week. Way excited for this game. I'm a horizon fan boy though. http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/fh3_gonegold

Kchrpm
August 30th, 2016, 08:14 AM
Still waiting on the Grand Sport to show up.

Boda Zen
August 30th, 2016, 08:19 AM
The full car list is out.

Kchrpm
August 30th, 2016, 08:44 AM
*checks*
*is disappointed*
*waits for the demo*

Boda Zen
August 30th, 2016, 08:49 AM
It was leaked that the demo will be 9/12. Guess we will see if it's true

animalica
August 30th, 2016, 09:35 AM
Halo`s Warthog is in!

http://kotaku.com/halos-warthog-probably-handles-a-lot-better-in-forza-ho-1785945243

Tom Servo
August 30th, 2016, 01:12 PM
Game has gone gold today and pc specs were released. I'm below the recommended with a gtx 960. Should still do Ok though. Also we are getting the warthog! As long as you've played halo 5 or the Mc collection you'll get a code starting next week. Way excited for this game. I'm a horizon fan boy though. http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/fh3_gonegold

At least that's recommended, not minimum. Those are crazy high specs considering how much more powerful that setup is than an XB1 is. What's that about?

Boda Zen
August 30th, 2016, 01:24 PM
Totally agree with you there. There must be a lot of draw distance on the pc that's not there on the xbox version. But I'm able to run forza apex on high settings and it looks much better than the xbox and at 60fps. Hopefully the 960 will do similar for fh3

Rare White Ape
August 30th, 2016, 02:25 PM
Forza Apex eats my system. I barely get over 20fps on the lowest settings.

Freude am Fahren
August 30th, 2016, 04:20 PM
FH3 has been downloading while at work. I don't know why I'm loading it up four weeks before I can play it, but oh well :lol:

Boda Zen
August 30th, 2016, 05:06 PM
Same for me btw 46.34 GB everybody

Boda Zen
August 30th, 2016, 05:24 PM
The recommended specs for apex are similar. But there was no 1060 at the time. It recommends the gtx 970 for 1080p and the 980ti for 4k. Minimum for apex was geforce gt 740. I'm guessing the minimum will be the same for fh3

Freude am Fahren
August 30th, 2016, 07:16 PM
Interesting to see how my 770 does. Should be fine at 1080p I think. Don't have 4K monitors afterall.

animalica
August 31st, 2016, 07:19 PM
Luckily F3H is a crossbuy title so I will go for the digital PC version. :)
My PC runs Apex well so this shouldn`t be a problem too.
And I`m not into buying new hardware before I found a new job and have moved.

Freude am Fahren
August 31st, 2016, 09:14 PM
Can we play multiplayer against each other on different platforms?

Kchrpm
September 1st, 2016, 04:32 AM
From what I can find, yes, it supports cross platform play in the co-op mode.

Rare White Ape
September 1st, 2016, 04:33 AM
I've heard that that's a yes.

I've also heard that it's one of the perplexing things behind Microsoft's XB1S slash XB1 Morpheus slash Xbox on Windows 10 maneuvers of late. Because, you know, if it's better on Windows then why do we need to buy an Xbox One, let alone it's redesign, let alone the 4K capable machine that's coming next year?

Phil_SS
September 1st, 2016, 05:08 AM
Because a gaming console where all I have to do is buy the game and it works vs buying and setting up a computer and worrying about will it boot up today, do I have the right graphics card, oh my driver isn't correct for this game, and this cost 4 times as much etc etc etc is golden for most consumers.

Plus with certain games it is much easier to hack the game and be playing with auto aim bots with a PC than it is on a console. But I would love the ability to add mods to certain games like FIFA or PES Master Files. They are beginning to be able to do this, like with Skyrim, but it is still very limited.

Tom Servo
September 1st, 2016, 06:31 AM
Yeah, I don't think MS has all that much to worry about. I don't think there's ever been a time where you couldn't make a gaming computer that significantly outperforms consoles, and for all the advantages one gets from PC gaming (a huge selection of peripherals, multi-monitor support, mods, no real "generations" so a lot of your old games still work, not needing to pay a fee to play online), consoles are still massively more popular.

While it's gotten a ton easier to build a decent gaming PC (more and more things you used to have to buy separately are now onboard and decent, like audio), it's still harder than buying a console and hooking it up to the TV. That and a lot of people want to be able to play it on the big TV in the living room. I have my computer hooked up via HDMI to the TV and it still just doesn't work right, and I have yet to be able to figure out what setting I've got wrong somewhere.

21Kid
September 1st, 2016, 08:04 AM
That would be neat if I could use my racing wheel on my PC and play with my Xbox friends. :)

Kchrpm
September 1st, 2016, 08:06 AM
How well do racing wheels play in arcade-y open world games like this?

21Kid
September 1st, 2016, 08:40 AM
IDK... I also meant going forward, assuming that future titles would follow the same path. I know F6 had(has?) problems with wheels on the PC.

Freude am Fahren
September 1st, 2016, 08:59 AM
Also, I assume you need an XBox Live Gold account to play online, which means they can sell you that at about the same per year as a console every 6-8 years. They probably will gain more subscriptions from PC die-hards than they will lose console sales.

Kchrpm
September 1st, 2016, 09:03 AM
I thought I had read that you don't need XBL Gold to play online on PC...

GreatScawt
September 1st, 2016, 09:14 AM
Indeed, no XBL gold membership is required for PC multiplayer... at this time.

Boda Zen
September 1st, 2016, 09:26 AM
Wheels are not supported yet for PC according to Playground games "gone gold" article. But they will be compatible in a future update. As far as compatible cards, as long as you have an Nvidia 700 series or above you will be fine. Need that gtx 1080 and a 4k monitor!

Freude am Fahren
September 1st, 2016, 12:36 PM
Oh, well that is quite surprising. (No gold required part)

Boda Zen
September 11th, 2016, 05:35 PM
Minimum specs for fh3 are on the windows store page now. i5 3570, 8gb ram, NVIDIA 750ti or above. Same as Forza Apex I believe

Boda Zen
September 11th, 2016, 05:47 PM
Demo for Xbox one is out tomorrow

racerfink
September 12th, 2016, 09:47 AM
Downloading the demo now.

racerfink
September 12th, 2016, 10:01 AM
18.3GB?!?! Holy smokes!

racerfink
September 12th, 2016, 11:49 AM
Still 5GB to go. Plan accordingly.

Freude am Fahren
September 12th, 2016, 02:36 PM
Demo had some interesting steering feel. Much worse than Horizon 1. I hope it's a settings or demo thing.

racerfink
September 12th, 2016, 04:23 PM
My demo crashed on me about thirty minutes in. Had to start back from the beginning, and when I got to that same point, the X button prompt I used the first time had changed to the Select button prompt. Ran fine until I somehow lost internet connection.

Rare White Ape
September 13th, 2016, 01:02 AM
18 gig for a demo is fucking nuts. Is the whole map included or something?

GreatScawt
September 13th, 2016, 03:43 AM
I'm not sure if, data-wise, the whole map is actually there, but the demo is blocked off (if you stray too far it sends you back). I chose to open an event at Surfer's Paradise, but it never let me set a route because that whole area was greyed out.

Freude, try turning on simulation handling? That's what I had to do for FH2 to make it feel good with a controller.

21Kid
September 13th, 2016, 05:57 AM
How long is the demo out for? I started the download last night... then fell asleep. :lol: :0ld:

Kchrpm
September 13th, 2016, 06:13 AM
I don't think the demo will expire, at least not any time soon, since it's not a beta.

21Kid
September 13th, 2016, 07:04 AM
Oh, good point. That's probably what I was thinking.

Kchrpm
September 14th, 2016, 03:45 AM
Played through the demo's missions twice (it doesn't save your progress when you close it, so you have to/get to start over). I don't really have any interest in the normal events it throws at you, but cruising around would probably be where most of my time was spent. Still undecided.

21Kid
September 14th, 2016, 09:17 PM
Dorifto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLb7hDt3y8o I should probably edit out the crash... Oh well.

Jason
September 15th, 2016, 03:19 AM
It's 'impressive' how unnaturally the cars and camera moves.

I might be sitting this one out :|

Cam
September 15th, 2016, 04:07 AM
Deleted.

Kchrpm
September 15th, 2016, 05:12 AM
It's 'impressive' how unnaturally the cars and camera moves.

The camera in this case was Kid flying in Drone mode. The cars moving unnaturally is definitely not reflected while driving, they just feel like a very generous sim. I want to get it for cruising around and making fun videos. It's nearly as much fun being the drone camera man as it is the driver.

21Kid
September 15th, 2016, 06:45 AM
Yeah, that was my first try at the drone. I suck at it. :p And the unnatualness of it could also be due to being online. There's always a little difference in how your car feels and your opponents/friends. It was pretty fun messing around, but I wouldn't buy it if you are looking for a standard racing sim.

Boda Zen
September 15th, 2016, 07:51 AM
That was a ton of fun last night. Glad we got that lobby together.

GreatScawt
September 15th, 2016, 04:29 PM
It's 'impressive' how unnaturally the cars and camera moves.

Is this your first time seeing an online racing game? :lol:
Yeah, there's definitely some noticeable rubber-banding... a lot of that depends on the individual player connections. I'd also imagine the open world environment doesn't do it any favors.
The green car looked way less jumpy, from what I could tell.

Kchrpm
September 15th, 2016, 05:42 PM
Green is me, grey is Boda, blue is Kid. The YouTube editor wasn't letting me preview the edits as a combined video before publishing for some reason, so let's see how it all went together when it's done processing...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TxybkLK9UA

novicius
September 15th, 2016, 07:12 PM
Both the game and the editing looks good. :up: :up:

Freude am Fahren
September 15th, 2016, 08:15 PM
The music on the other hand... :p

Rare White Ape
September 15th, 2016, 09:33 PM
That drone mode (and it's wee drone shadow) looks tailor-made for the production of some sweet drifting videos. That's probably the best idea I've seen in a racing game like this for some time. There's so much potential there.

racerfink
September 15th, 2016, 10:13 PM
I hate that drift zone. Damn traffic gets me. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Jason
September 16th, 2016, 03:23 AM
Music = turrible

Everything else = still turrible, but less so

:P

Kchrpm
September 16th, 2016, 03:49 AM
The drone mode has the whining of the drone in it, and we accidentally left the game music in some of our recordings, so I had to mute the volume. I went through a bunch of free-to-use music on YouTube and decided on an instrumental that seemed to build a little energy.

I honestly don't know what the solution will be for the future. If I use any recognizable music, the video will get flagged and at least their ads attached to it (all the videos I uploaded from the game that had the music left in generated an email telling me so).

Cam
September 16th, 2016, 04:21 AM
There are sites out there where you can download license-free music. Just look for them using your favourite internet search engine.

Kchrpm
September 16th, 2016, 04:30 AM
Yeah, that's what the music in the video is, license-free music on YouTube. But maybe I'll find some better stuff if I peruse those sites, I'll check them out.

Rare White Ape
September 16th, 2016, 06:27 AM
An other option: use lots of music from many publishers. That way the content ID feature will pull out more than one hit, and no one publisher can claim the rights to monetisation and therefore no ads will ever run.

Kchrpm
September 16th, 2016, 07:05 AM
I saw that video game guy that did that. I'm not sure I want to mess with the system that way.

Cam
September 16th, 2016, 07:12 AM
Can't you disable ads in your own videos?

Kchrpm
September 16th, 2016, 07:27 AM
Not if you put in someone else's content. Then that copyright holder can either have your video removed, or they can attach ads to your video which they will get the revenue from rather than you. That's one of things going through video game channels, they're unable to make any money if all of their videos are identified as containing clips from games which are part of the copyright content ID system.

Edit: I don't know what games are part of that setup, though. I've uploaded clips from 4 or 5 games now, and the music ID in the Horizon clips are the first ones that have been identified. The game itself isn't mentioned.

Kchrpm
September 16th, 2016, 07:34 AM
I got this for the uploaded videos with the radio stations on, but not the one above where I muted them.


A copyright owner using Content ID claimed some material in your video.

This is just a heads up
Don’t worry. You’re not in trouble and your account standing is not affected by this.

There are either ads running on your video, with the revenue going to the copyright owner, or the copyright owner is receiving stats about your video’s views.

Video title: Forza Horizon 3 Demo
Copyrighted song: The Wild Life
Claimed by: UMG and INgrooves
View claim details

What's next?
If there are no problems, you don’t need to take any action. You don't need to delete your video.

If something went wrong and the copyright owner or our system made a mistake, we have a dispute process. Only use it if you’re confident you have the rights to use all the content in your video.

- The YouTube Team

Boda Zen
September 16th, 2016, 08:00 AM
Editing looks good Keith. I like the vid. As far as the music I'm not sure how the big streamers on Twitch get away with music in the background. I tried it and my stream was muted for the duration

Phil_SS
September 16th, 2016, 08:58 AM
They may be sponsored by a streaming music service?......

Boda Zen
September 16th, 2016, 10:44 AM
That must be the case

Boda Zen
September 16th, 2016, 10:46 AM
Exciting announcement on TWoX today. Ken Block's car coming to FH3 later this year. I hope I can maneuver it in the game like he does in real life.

Rare White Ape
September 20th, 2016, 12:55 PM
Review by IGN:

https://youtu.be/Lr0-TijmFDI

Freude am Fahren
September 20th, 2016, 07:14 PM
:lol: at the cow catcher mod on the ute. I wonder if it lets you bust through more stuff.

Rare White Ape
September 20th, 2016, 11:53 PM
It's just a shame that there aren't any bulls to make proper use of the bullbar.

On a related note, I do see those massive bullbars from time-to-time out in the sticks, but never gave them a second thought until you pointed out how ridiculous they are.

Hmm. I guess they're quite ridiculous. Here's a few examples.

Hillbilly Heroin. Clever.
http://www.drive.com.au/content/dam/images/z/2/z/w/image.gallery.articleLeadwide.620x349.z300.png/1277394619410.jpg

This one's got a bar mat on the dashboard, and - OH LAWDY - a giant crucufix on the roof.
I think this one might actually be formerly of the Aussie Ute Racing Series, a support category
to the V8 Supercars. One kicked around painted up just like this sponsored by Jesus.
http://boomerbullbars.typepad.com/.a/6a0153924291c1970b017c32d97b48970b-pi

Aerials.
http://a4.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/84/26005f8447b94f428ff6c0c181c3c1ff/l.jpg

The URL for this one is 'feral_kevs_ute'.
https://jobryantnz.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/feral_kevs_ute01.jpg

Obligatory bullhorn sticker. Obligatory Kenworth mudflaps.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/ArnieBoy/UTE/UTE.jpg

Note the flames on the bottom of the windscreen. Really sets it off.
http://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14224730_961130620662374_6913554168110255706_n.jpg ?oh=da897012ab72e193d63d90fa7ca5a11a&oe=583BCC91

Tom Servo
September 21st, 2016, 06:03 AM
Damn, 91 on Metacritic, with 52 positive reviews, one mixed, and one bad. Unless something changes (and it looks like most major review sites have published their reviews at this point), it's tied for the 4th highest rated XB1 title of all time.

Not too shabby.

SkylineObsession
September 22nd, 2016, 09:47 PM
Wifey picked up my copy this morning, now to wait hours for it to install (maybe, maybe not ;) ).

racerfink
September 23rd, 2016, 04:13 AM
So... A 1.49GB update before I can even start?

Tom Servo
September 23rd, 2016, 05:14 AM
Damn, I got a 47.35 GB update.

I'm assuming this has to do with a savegame corruption bug I was reading about. People were starting up the game only to find that all their progress was gone.

EDIT: Why am I assuming that the XBox telling me it was "Ready to start!" was just it installing a tiny stub program and now the "update" is the entire game? I thought this shit was supposed to auto-download overnight?

21Kid
September 23rd, 2016, 05:43 AM
Only if you have it set to "always on" mode. "Power save" mode turns that feature off.

Kchrpm
September 23rd, 2016, 07:28 AM
You can turn it back on and leave your XBox One on manually. I have "Always On" off, automatic update on (I forget the actual name), and automatic off from inactivity turned off. I just leave my XBox on when I know an update is incoming.

Tom Servo
September 23rd, 2016, 07:47 AM
I don't have it on Always On because, as far as I can tell, that's the single most effective way to make Forza 6 have a fit every time I turn my XBox on. It almost never recovers from sleep mode, so it actually takes less time to start F6 with the XBox fully off than it does just sleeping.

However, I turned my XBox on early this morning and it said that Forza Horizon 3 was "Ready to start!" So, I assumed, of course, that mean it was ready to start. I did not realize they meant "Ready to start installing!"

Feh. At any rate, it eventually said it was "Ready to start!" again, so I played for a bit, and then hit a "installing screen" with some crappy music and a percentage creeping up at about a rate of 1 percent every 10 minutes.

That said, I enjoyed the little I got to play of it. It looks pretty good, was fun hiring a few of you onto my team, and cross country events still suck.

Kchrpm
September 23rd, 2016, 08:04 AM
Ready to start does not mean fully installed, it means it has installed enough for it to get to wherever they have decided to indicate is the minimum to start. For some games that has only been to a loading/menu screen. Others let you play in a simple exhibition mode with very limited content. I played exhibition games of NBA2K16 while I waited for it to install additional teams/players and arenas. I like the feature, some companies just implement it better than others.

Freude am Fahren
September 23rd, 2016, 10:47 AM
I guess mine is in always one mode, since it started up to the main menu just a minute ago. I had to turn it off to leave for work though, so maybe it needs an update.

I used to have the same issue with FM6, so I turned that option off, but they must have patched it, as I haven't had issues for a while.

Though it did turn completely on one night at like 3 a.m. and woke me up :lol:

GreatScawt
September 23rd, 2016, 12:50 PM
I've only touched the PC version so far and damn, it's impressive for what is considered a port. There's been some server issues throughout the day, I've noticed.

Tough game to run. I'm used to being able to do ultra+60 FPS on most games at 1440p. This game I have to set it at 36 FPS frame cap. Pretty much buttery smooth with some rare hiccups. The only other game that is as tough to run is Witcher 3 so far.

Tom Servo
September 23rd, 2016, 01:14 PM
Ready to start does not mean fully installed, it means it has installed enough for it to get to wherever they have decided to indicate is the minimum to start. For some games that has only been to a loading/menu screen. Others let you play in a simple exhibition mode with very limited content. I played exhibition games of NBA2K16 while I waited for it to install additional teams/players and arenas. I like the feature, some companies just implement it better than others.

Yeah, normally it does mean that. In this case, it hadn't installed anything as far as I can tell, much less enough to get it to start the game. The game wasn't able to start for a good hour after that.

GreatScawt
September 23rd, 2016, 01:29 PM
Very strange! Usually "ready to start" means I can launch it, but a lot of times it's not worth it, as it limits features.

Kchrpm
September 23rd, 2016, 01:30 PM
By the way, last night I recruited Swervo to my team :up: I forget who else.

GreatScawt
September 23rd, 2016, 01:42 PM
I've got RWA and Slipztream :lol:
And because of the server issues, someone completely unnamed.

Rare White Ape
September 23rd, 2016, 04:06 PM
:up:

Not bad considering I haven't played a single moment of Xbox Live in ages, apart from dabbling with the Xbox app on Win10.


I've only touched the PC version so far and damn, it's impressive for what is considered a port. There's been some server issues throughout the day, I've noticed.

Tough game to run. I'm used to being able to do ultra+60 FPS on most games at 1440p. This game I have to set it at 36 FPS frame cap. Pretty much buttery smooth with some rare hiccups. The only other game that is as tough to run is Witcher 3 so far.

Have you got FM6 Apex installed? How does it run for you?

I want to know how the performance compares between that and FH3, because I'm slightly interested in buying this game (and actually joining the team!) but the big hurdle is whether or not my PC will run it with any decent sort of frame rate, and it's impossible to tell unless they release the demo for PC.

I can play Apex at maybe 30 FPS at 720p with lots of stutter and lots of input lag. It's headache-inducing with heaps of cars, but not impossible. By comparison, Halo 5 Forge runs at over 50 at 1080p with all the settings cranked up, and almost no input lag.

Freude am Fahren
September 23rd, 2016, 04:37 PM
Gotta say, I am so far very disappointed by the force feedback, much worse than FH1 or FM6. Maybe they haven't gotten Fanatecs sorted yet on XBone just like PC? I don't know, so far it's a pretty miserable experience. It's like driving a car with the engine off (so heavy), but without any feedback except some rumbles.

Also, how the hell do I get the game on my PC??? This is really frustrating, I can find any download, link, play on PC button in the XBox app, nothing... :angry:

GreatScawt
September 23rd, 2016, 05:12 PM
Have you got FM6 Apex installed? How does it run for you?

I want to know how the performance compares between that and FH3, because I'm slightly interested in buying this game (and actually joining the team!) but the big hurdle is whether or not my PC will run it with any decent sort of frame rate, and it's impossible to tell unless they release the demo for PC.

I can play Apex at maybe 30 FPS at 720p with lots of stutter and lots of input lag. It's headache-inducing with heaps of cars, but not impossible. By comparison, Halo 5 Forge runs at over 50 at 1080p with all the settings cranked up, and almost no input lag.

So I just pulled it up again to quick bench it. This is with the recent GeForce drivers released last night that are geared towards FH3.
I'm running an i5-4690k / 16 GB DDR3 Ram / 980FTW.

Forza 6: Apex
Condition: Quick race with 16 Le Mans Prototypes on Rio and Abu Dhabi.
Settings: 2560x1440 / Ultra settings / Dynamic res turned off
Results:
100+ frames with a few cars around
75-90 in heavy traffic and bumping
I got it down to 40-50 doing a burnout against traffic and causing a bunch of accidents.
With dyanmic res turned on it stayed pretty much capped at 72 (half the monitor refresh).

Forza Horizon 3
Condition: General play and typical "Horizon"-esque fucking around
Settings: 2560x1440 / Ultra (I think I turned AF to 2x, all AA off, because res) / Frame smoothing I left on I think?
Results: Seemingly anywhere from 30-80+ FPS. Very jumpy, and the jumps are really really noticeable if I don't cap the framerate. There were a few times where the cars were jittery and "teleport-y" with higher or unlocked framerates.
Once I capped the frames at 36 it really seemed to handle it better. But there were *still* times where the game dipped to 30, and I knew it immediately. Very jarring. I may have to play with the frame smoothing / g-sync / v-sync options some more.
There's also been some strange artifacting/glitchy-lighting-flickering... but it's super rare and goes away quickly enough.

So, I think you may want to consider an upgrade, the X1 version, or wait for the benchmark professionals to get their hands on it. FH3 does seem to be quite a bit more demanding (even though I think they have the same system specs on the Windows Store).
I think the discrepancy between Apex and FH3 is due to multiple reasons, one of the biggest being that FH3 is a larger world, constantly loading drivatars / new cars in and out. As opposed to Apex doing single loads and done. I also think FH3 has a noticeably higher ceiling on fidelity. There's definitely a new lighting system in play... because wow. And probably other technologies behind that scenes.

-----

So who's setting up the GTXf Club?? :D

Rare White Ape
September 23rd, 2016, 05:51 PM
Thanks for that Scotty, more in-depth than I was expecting :up:

I might give it a miss on PC then, I expected FH3 to be more of a demanding title and that confirms it.

Rather than upgrade (my pooter is only 14 months old) it would be more economical to buy an XboneS, or even better, a used Xbone, and just play it that way.

But I'm not going to do that either :lol:

GreatScawt
September 23rd, 2016, 10:40 PM
Yeah, hah, I was interested in seeing the difference, and it didn't take too long. :D

Also... I totally forgot, but the PC demo is coming out at some point (post-release). You can just give that a shot to see if it will work for you. You never know!

Rare White Ape
September 23rd, 2016, 11:10 PM
Yeah I'm aware that there's a PC demo on the way. It's just really silly that it wasn't out roughly in line with the console demo. And even sillier that it's supposed to be the "Universal Windows bloody Platform" that they're trying to sell to the games industry… and consumers… and take over PC gaming with. Bad idea all round.

But still, there's one thing I loved doing so much in FM2 and 3 when I was playing that a lot, and that was customising cars and painting them up. You don't need ridiculous amounts of teraflopage to enjoy that part if it, and to this day no other game has been able to match it. Chances are I'd spend all my time doing that and just enough time doing events to earn cash to keep it up, so if the demo runs somewhat painlessly then you never know.

GreatScawt
September 24th, 2016, 06:20 AM
OK - so maybe FH3 could potentially be a lot better optimized on PC...
This video from Giant Bomb pretty much mimics my experience and validates my some of my initial concerns. At the very beginning Jeff Gerstmann talks about performance and specs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzhNVHL2-xw

Kchrpm
September 24th, 2016, 06:50 AM
GTXF Club being created right now, will send invites.

SkylineObsession
September 24th, 2016, 02:06 PM
Can you be in more than one club?

Here's some pics i've taken, if they show up?

About to head off to the city. Never seen a GT in this colour, so thats why it's bright;
http://screenshotscontent-t3001.xboxlive.com/0009000000e486a3-5d4e8cab-bd9f-47ef-adb6-b9f337f014cc/Thumbnail_Large.PNG

Cruising into Surfers for the first time. I abide by the speed limits at all times (except when i don't);
http://screenshotscontent-t2002.xboxlive.com/0009000000e486a3-5358ff90-ef28-4a5a-8c5b-c23dcdb1d40b/Thumbnail_Large.PNG

My sleeperish torque monster Merc. Over 1,000nm(?);
http://screenshotscontent-t2001.xboxlive.com/0009000000e486a3-ceb254f8-006f-4214-8221-234327f07ae7/Thumbnail_Large.PNG

SkylineObsession
September 24th, 2016, 02:12 PM
One of the two GT350's i have (one a pre-order bonus, and not sure how i got the other one);
http://screenshotscontent-t4002.xboxlive.com/0009000000e486a3-a89d78f0-fa78-4504-892f-666d46a99f5e/Thumbnail_Large.PNG
That one is now a dark maroony colour, and my other one i changed from blue to white.

I attempted to drive over to New Zealand. Please don't ask me how it went. I don't want to talk about it.
http://screenshotscontent-t5002.xboxlive.com/0009000000e486a3-9405abf7-62a4-4008-99a2-35a8164145b8/Thumbnail_Large.PNG

Loving the cloud effects in the game. Those dark clouds in the distance eventually make their way to you and it starts raining. Clouds realistically block sunlight from hitting the ground, with moving patches of full sunlight etc that you can just sit there and watch (if bored enough). The clouds even seem to move independently from each other, i saw some moving faster than others. Best cloud effects i've seen in any game ever.
http://screenshotscontent-t3002.xboxlive.com/0009000000e486a3-7ad3836e-7fbf-4f99-99e8-2151e18bb3bd/Thumbnail_Large.PNG

My main problem is sticking to the right (left) side of the road, as almost every other open world driving game out there you drive on the wrong (right) side. Had a few too many head on collisions so far. :o

Seriously awesome looking game though, huge amounts of detail and an a incredible draw distance.

My main complaint so far though is the extremely bad rubberbanding AI cars.
I'm now driving with the AI difficulty at it's second easiest setting (below average driver?) just so i can win races! I have cars 20 years older than mine, and 1-200hp less absolutely flying past me on the straights as if i've just slammed the brakes on. It's fuckingwell annoying and ruins the realism factor a lot for me. I'm not crashing around every corner either - i'm at 100%, even races i have no damage at all i still get wasted, so have to resort to Gran Turismoing to get past them (using them to help corner).

For S&G's i put a modern BMW race car (race cars don't belong in this game, PG...) in a BMW race i made, and 1970's BMW's were literally accelerating away from me on straights with a ferocity of a Formula 1 car. Should have recorded a clip. What an effingham joke...

Boda Zen
September 24th, 2016, 06:15 PM
Has anybody seen their forza rewards cars in game?

Boda Zen
September 24th, 2016, 08:21 PM
I just got them. Guess you have to have 1.4 million fans before you get them

Boda Zen
September 24th, 2016, 08:52 PM
So if you didn't get your warthog you can buy one from the auction house

SkylineObsession
September 24th, 2016, 10:03 PM
Same with a lot of pre-order cars too.

In a way it's good, but if you end up paying extra for the game to get those cars when you can just buy them with in-game credits it's probably not such a good idea?

Kchrpm
September 25th, 2016, 03:41 AM
They always said that the pre-order cars could be purchased in-game, but pre-ordering doesn't cost you any extra money (unless compared to buying used or when the game gets discounted, which is a slippery slope). The DLC cars that do cost extra real money cannot be purchased for in-game currency.

animalica
September 25th, 2016, 04:47 AM
Please send me an invite too. :)

I just bought the Ultimate version for the PC and now I need to update my Windows first before I can download it - and this will take forever with just 1.2 MB/s... :(

GreatScawt
September 25th, 2016, 06:20 AM
Thanks, Keith!

Is it possible for you to send my buddy an invite - PlainFiber? Or give me permission to send? He was in the club for FH2 as well.

GreatScawt
September 25th, 2016, 06:23 AM
So if you didn't get your warthog you can buy one from the auction house

FYI - don't buy it if it's a super inflated price, because...


If you didn't play either of those games [Halo 5, MCC], you can get the Warthog by competing in a "Forzathon" event in Forza Horizon 3 this October.

Freude am Fahren
September 25th, 2016, 06:30 AM
Please send me an invite too. :)

I just bought the Ultimate version for the PC and now I need to update my Windows first before I can download it - and this will take forever with just 1.2 MB/s... :(

How do you download it, still haven't figured it out.

So I figured out HOW you're supposed to do it, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I went to the Windows Store app, and my library, but it doesn't show up there. Maybe I haven't gotten the W10 anniversary update yet? Shouldn't it still show in my Library though? The demo shows up even though I never got that for PC.

:?

Kchrpm
September 25th, 2016, 06:45 AM
Thanks, Keith!

Is it possible for you to send my buddy an invite - PlainFiber? Or give me permission to send? He was in the club for FH2 as well.

He already got in. Will send an invite to animal after posting this.

GreatScawt
September 25th, 2016, 06:57 AM
Thanks again! I didn't realize. :up:



How do you download it, still haven't figured it out.

So I figured out HOW you're supposed to do it, but it doesn't seem to work for me. I went to the Windows Store app, and my library, but it doesn't show up there. Maybe I haven't gotten the W10 anniversary update yet? Shouldn't it still show in my Library though? The demo shows up even though I never got that for PC.

:?

Yes, I believe it requires the Anniversary Update. Which I had to force my PC to download. I had initially done it to download Halo 5: Forge, but then just never bothered.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/features <--- There should be a link in there to download the "Update Assistant"
Word of warning: it seemed to flake out a couple times, the loading bars are meaningless, and it takes a little while. It also didn't support my anti-Virus, so I'm just using MS Defender and firewall at the moment.

Kchrpm
September 25th, 2016, 07:01 AM
I remembered that you could make a convoy with any Drivatars you see driving around. Not a bad crew I put together on the way to the Outback Festival.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jEmqy8O8S4u6qPczo0l0sGosogQcG94ckNHci6PISlScx28wP1 xcah_XWOlNUdjY9158xS9k35ZiyY9czZTHcevO3iWVjtIsvNGO gntZzgqE__4PL1vCQqFpBMAoQ3QcqeUo9h6-N6A_NRmjIar4USEuCUH0qHOU8MNrbcoXPtCwXMwThJLF4ggfPf pPKhAXNSh1mbBIwQdPx_6guNMxUGeJYo7IKFTBv2Z5t4OWkjRg FqEENyVJWOWMdJq4zOsmEfSDGrX5nHs0SRdFIgd7QkSRwwkveT S3oOKaI91JNs5NAQXYsF3yPHwywJQxAFTx6oX8y8BUHDLNHAAX 6swiMFKHc6WOk70cL3aPkRYnJtBwQomi86SGpLuSyoL7Bqk9uK 9t3fBqQYN933sT9Dn4yKyV3XPXko6_7tmkwxMTW2LAXOaTbnGF-g6pQ-c-VQMbec4siBbmvEAzKisEhJyinf_qmz7oJVsRQFFVaQq3ipCR28 uCb4ZQbMZmjJ2Gb7Pqa4AsIHsq9flFYpgrTUKPUj8Y3ap6gGc9 2aCPapB6cwXcYQKY678pkWHGiJAff0bMdvjM6FDBnNK0fOra1K Lr0n5bps2s6D_raUcW7ieuu8cZG1Zchg=w1755-h987-no

GreatScawt
September 25th, 2016, 07:36 AM
:lol: Nice! :up:
That made me take a peak at the drivatars... they all seem to have the unique license plates. At least Slipztream's did with a big ol "GTPlanet" plate :lol:

Freude am Fahren
September 25th, 2016, 08:35 AM
Forced the Anniversary update, and am currently downloading :up:

animalica
September 25th, 2016, 11:03 AM
Yes, it needs Windows to be up to date.

Then go to the Windows Store > Downloads and Updates and there it should be.

But beware - the download will be a full-pull leaving no bandwidth!
So I downloaded NetBalancer and limited the program "svchost" so that I got enough bandwidth left for surfing.

https://netbalancer.com/download

1951

Kchrpm
September 25th, 2016, 11:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvpJCBBowA

KillerB
September 25th, 2016, 01:28 PM
What's the elevator pitch for this for someone who hasn't completed FH2 yet?

Tom Servo
September 25th, 2016, 03:02 PM
I totally missed how to do the convoy thing. Sometimes it likes to explain things to me when I've got something else going on, and then I end up just not knowing at all about some functionality (like the drone, thanks for explaining that to me last night!)

animalica
September 25th, 2016, 08:30 PM
Still 12 GB to go... so I can enjoy it this afternoon after work.


BTW - Here's how to use Forza Horizon 3's Groove Music radio station:

http://m.windowscentral.com/how-use-groove-music-forza-horizon-3

Kchrpm
September 26th, 2016, 07:11 AM
In my opinion you're just better off using the Groove app in your XBox. The implementation in the game, for me, is buggy (songs pause and jump around, and it just randomly doesn't work), and it doesn't shuffle your playlist, it just goes through the songs in order.

21Kid
September 26th, 2016, 07:46 AM
How much better is FH3 than FH2?

Kchrpm
September 26th, 2016, 08:06 AM
I have never played FH2. Everyone I speak to while or about playing FH3 says that it's far better. One person (who lives in Australia) said he's going to be playing it for the rest of his life. A few have said that the original was better than 2 (I don't remember the reasoning), but that 3 is much better than both.

Again, as someone who hasn't played FH2 at all, I don't know exactly what to say as a comparison. The roads are fun to drive and have a decent amount of variety between the areas, the events/races themselves are about what you'd expect, there are TONS of speed/drift areas on the roads (paved and otherwise), there are some insane jumps, and most of the island is drive-able. Very often, when in an appropriate off-road vehicle like the Rally Fighter above, I will set a way point and then just head directly for it. Through forests and farms, up small mountains, across rivers, you can blaze a trail. Watch out for large rocks, cobblestone walls and certain trees (annoyingly some destructible and indestructible ones look identical at speed) while going 150 mph across the Australian outback in your 900+ hp diesel Raptor.

GreatScawt
September 26th, 2016, 09:00 AM
Yeah, it feels like FH2 at first, except more/bigger of everything (except for the immediately daunting number of championships in FH2 - that was dumb). It does have some gameplay tweaks with the story that give it a different flow, which is refreshing for someone who's put 200+ hours into FH2. Also, the MP is a little more streamlined, I feel.

Kchrpm
September 26th, 2016, 09:14 AM
Oh, I love that you can decide what car to use at every race. Want to do an offroad race with only hypercars? Go for it! High speed highway run in Polaris ATVs? You're the boss!

Boda Zen
September 26th, 2016, 09:21 AM
Nice vid Keith. Very nice!

Kchrpm
September 26th, 2016, 09:28 AM
I'm trying to figure out what things we could/should do other than just drifting. We do need to get some tandem drifting in, but I want to do more than that, too.

Freude am Fahren
September 26th, 2016, 09:44 AM
Been busy, so barely able to try this game out, but aside from the steering feel issues I have (slightly fixed with settings found online), I keep running into traffic because I'm on the wrong side of the road :lol:

By the way, am I the only one that just completely turns off music? I've done it every driving/racing game ever, even GTA (well most of the time in GTA).

Kchrpm
September 26th, 2016, 10:43 AM
It depends on my mood, the moment and the song. In racing games I usually turn it off, but Horizon isn't really a racing game to me, but I also don't really like most of the music in Horizon (at least not enough for it to be repeated every day or multiple times a day). The skill song thing is a good reason to have it on, though.

GreatScawt
September 26th, 2016, 03:41 PM
Skills sings are super satisfying, not gonna lie. If you don't like the radio, adjust your audio settings such that you barely hear or don't hear the music, but at least you should still be able to take advantage of the skill songs. You can easily get 3-4 skills points for each song.

Kchrpm
September 26th, 2016, 06:21 PM
Who is RELENTLESSLY22?

KillerB
September 26th, 2016, 09:22 PM
Okay, I personally thought the off road races in sports cars were possibly the dumbest fucking thing ever. If there is more of that nonsense, I'm out.

Kchrpm
September 27th, 2016, 04:15 AM
Again, you choose what cars to use in every race. It will never force you to do an offroad race in a sports car, because you're basically choosing what to drive in every race.

GreatScawt
September 27th, 2016, 05:44 AM
Unless you accidentally set up a championship incorrectly, like I did with the F Type in the Yarra valley... dirt and mud puddles for days. Was actually pretty fun still.

Kchrpm
September 27th, 2016, 05:45 AM
So you were forced to do something that you accidentally chose, got it :P

So when are we getting our tandem drift on! And we could really do a Red Barchetta video.

GreatScawt
September 27th, 2016, 06:49 AM
Just have to take a closer look at the route / description (cross country, etc) :D

Tom Servo
September 27th, 2016, 08:42 AM
Man, it just took me *forever* to figure out how to continue on with a Championship. I had no idea LB set up a filter on the map (which lead me to find out that apparently I haven't unlocked the event needed to continue the championship).

animalica
September 27th, 2016, 12:02 PM
Despite a good system (A8 @ 3,9 GHz, GTX-970, 16 GB Ram) my FPS only range from 24 to 42 fps.
But most of the time over 30 fps so it`s playable.
Too bad that it doesn`t support a triple monitor setup so I got to play on a tiny 22" again - before I played on a single 32" tv. :(

So many options, races and informations in the beginning makes the start slightly confusing but nevertheless I enjoy it. :)

Found this simple paintjob yesterday...

http://i63.tinypic.com/35b9f6c.jpg

Kchrpm
September 27th, 2016, 12:07 PM
Goals for the near future: tandem drift recordings, ideas for things other than drifting.

21Kid
September 27th, 2016, 12:10 PM
Cannonball run?

Kchrpm
September 27th, 2016, 12:16 PM
Hmmm...6 racers, 6 drone pilots (one assigned to each car), designated start and finish point with no restrictions on how you get there...could be fun. I'll need to see how far you can actually get in 4 minutes of drive time.

Freude am Fahren
September 27th, 2016, 12:24 PM
Been having issues with the PC version. I tried ultra settings, but it kept freezing on the load screen. So I turned down to high, and it runs at a solid 30 (capped) fps. GTX770 FTW, 16GB ram, i7-2700k. I bet this is a game that really benefits from an SSD.

So I drove around for a while with no problems (other than Fanatec not having FFB yet). As soon as I tried to enter an event it crashed to desktop with no message :(

Anyone know if you can edit a file somewhere to get custom controls? Why they won't let you assign anything is beyond me.

21Kid
September 27th, 2016, 12:32 PM
Hmmm...6 racers, 6 drone pilots (one assigned to each car), designated start and finish point with no restrictions on how you get there...could be fun. I'll need to see how far you can actually get in 4 minutes of drive time.
I thought it was 5?

Kchrpm
September 27th, 2016, 12:36 PM
I thought it was 5?

I was adding a buffer for prep, confusion and shenanigans. I'm thinking either two teams of three (off-road trucks vs hyper/race cars), or three teams of two (off-road trucks, rally cars, hyper/race cars).

And we can livestream it on Twitch to get party chat audio recording.

21Kid
September 27th, 2016, 12:40 PM
:lol: Good point.

Rare White Ape
September 27th, 2016, 12:55 PM
For the PC players with beefy rigs, thanks to Digital Foundry:

https://youtu.be/ofFpnArXbJ8

Short version; fully disable MSAA and change a few settings to high rather than ultra and you'll get 60 out of it.

Freude am Fahren
September 27th, 2016, 01:10 PM
So you can't turn the music off in FH3? It only goes down to 1.

Kchrpm
September 27th, 2016, 01:17 PM
You can turn the radio stations off (though some Bucket List challenges force a certain song, and that station remains on afterwards IIRC). I hadn't tried just turning them to 0 yet.

Freude am Fahren
September 27th, 2016, 01:35 PM
Ah, got it, it's like GTA.

Freude am Fahren
September 27th, 2016, 01:48 PM
BY the way, I LOVE the way you can seamlessly go between PC and XBox. I had no idea it was going to be like that, I thought it was just going to be two separate games :up:

SkylineObsession
September 27th, 2016, 06:54 PM
I got your club invite Keith, but since you can only join one club i ended up going with NZGamer since i race with them every week. :(

If you see me playing the game at any stage and want another hughman being to race with (a.k.a. beat) send me an invite if you like, since i'm (at the moment) generally just driving around abiding the speed limit i'm usually available for faster paced activities. ;) Seemed to work alright last time we played Forza 6, despite the long distance between NZ and USA.

And for those who aren't on my friends list, my Xbox name is Mangosaurus.

Kchrpm
September 28th, 2016, 04:21 AM
All good, I figured as much when I saw your other club tag :up:

Yw-slayer
September 28th, 2016, 06:15 AM
So, is this worth buying so that I can download and install it before never playing it?

Kchrpm
September 28th, 2016, 06:48 AM
Yes.

21Kid
September 28th, 2016, 07:54 AM
:lol:

Tom Servo
September 28th, 2016, 07:57 AM
Went to start the Yarra Valley location, picked out my free car, chose the color, and then it just hung on "Saving" for 10 minutes. I finally gave up and killed the game, now it won't start.

Hoping I didn't lose my savegame...

EDIT: Was able to start game after a full reboot, but lost all my progress since I started the game (except that now the barn find location that I found this morning is marked on the map).

Boda Zen
September 28th, 2016, 11:49 AM
Check out my new livery with gtx forums included. Have a little work to do on the black. Other than that its done.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Boda%20Zen/video/21927269

animalica
September 28th, 2016, 11:56 AM
Drive like an idiot, play like a boss! :D

48:9/16:3 with 5760x1080 @ 25 fps.

http://i66.tinypic.com/wwn3bn.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/1673br.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/1zyevj5.jpg

Kicked out the HD-ready 22" and replaced it with a Full-HD 22" and et voila it works in Eyefinity/Surround.
And at the end of the week I will receive another 22" and then they will be all of the same type. :)

Kchrpm
September 28th, 2016, 11:58 AM
Check out my new livery with gtx forums included. Have a little work to do on the black. Other than that its done.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Boda%20Zen/video/21927269

Spiffy :up: I did end up getting one of those widebody 240SXs, per your recommendation, but I put an LS3 in it.

thesameguy
September 28th, 2016, 12:06 PM
1. You should be able to drop cones to direct traffic around you and avoid computer asshats from getting in the frame.
2. The camera needs some springs on it, so movements can be a bit softer and not so jerky. :)

That is all I have.

Boda Zen
September 28th, 2016, 12:06 PM
Nice. What's the top speed with that in it?

Kchrpm
September 28th, 2016, 12:08 PM
No idea, I use it specifically for sweet drifts :)

Jason
September 28th, 2016, 12:51 PM
No mirror in hood/bumper cam, still?