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Kchrpm
September 16th, 2016, 10:44 AM
What the title says.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a30802/indycar-2018-aerokit/

Aero kits are going away. No one really likes them, they're getting a new car in 2018 and they're hoping to entice a new manufacturer without needing to convince them to design an aero kit of their own.

dodint
September 16th, 2016, 11:47 AM
I thought you hated Tony George.

Kchrpm
September 16th, 2016, 11:53 AM
Still interested in the series as a whole, despite however much animosity I still hold towards the guy that screwed it over all those years ago.

Reynard
March 31st, 2017, 04:13 PM
http://www.racer.com/components/com_flexicontent/librairies/phpthumb/phpThumb.php?src=/images/2017/March_2/IndyCar/bodywork_lede.jpeg

Yes please! :cool:


http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/139236-more-2018-indycar-images-released

Alan P
March 31st, 2017, 04:34 PM
Interesting they've got rid of the rear fender behind the back wheels, although I think I read somewhere they'd come back for Ovals but not be fitted on Road courses and street tracks?

FaultyMario
March 31st, 2017, 06:24 PM
Is it jpm doing 73 second laps around Detroit?

The359
March 31st, 2017, 08:42 PM
The car pictured above is the high speed oval configuration.

XHawkeye
May 20th, 2017, 09:14 AM
ALONSO ON THE EDGE!!! #Indy500

https://twitter.com/f1writers/status/865898683614756865 <------ Open for Gif

XHawkeye
May 20th, 2017, 09:35 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAOR_83WsAQAsRz.jpg

Freude am Fahren
May 20th, 2017, 10:39 AM
:lol:

The359
May 20th, 2017, 04:48 PM
Bourdais has fractured his hip, he's definitely going to be out for the race. Real shame to go from what would have easily been provisional pole to a big injury like that.

FaultyMario
May 20th, 2017, 07:12 PM
Yes, those were two impressive laps. I don't think that at his age he can heal fast enough and or be motivated enough to stay in IndyCar.

The359
May 20th, 2017, 08:45 PM
He has Le Mans in less than a month too. I think he may not be healthy enough for that either.

FaultyMario
May 21st, 2017, 07:48 AM
It's a spot in the Ganassi Ford GT program, right?

Wouldn't it be cool if it went to jpm?

Freude am Fahren
May 21st, 2017, 08:21 AM
That was a scary accident. Was a cause determined? I gotta think it was just trimmed too far, hence the speed before the crash.

FaultyMario
May 21st, 2017, 11:39 AM
That was a scary accident.

A carbon copy of this


http://youtu.be/oYnTtul3670

with 25 years of safety advancements.

dodint
May 21st, 2017, 12:33 PM
I hadn't heard anything at all about the Bourdais accident, just saw a youtube suggestion to watch his 'incident.' I laughed and said to myself I hope his balls fell off; really surprised to find out later he broke a hip. Hope he gets better soon.

Justin Wilson freak accident aside it's telling that I can see a screencap of a car split in half and assume the driver got out fine, racing will never be 'safe' but the stuff they've been advancing is working well.

Freude am Fahren
May 21st, 2017, 12:59 PM
A carbon copy of this


http://youtu.be/oYnTtul3670

with 25 years of safety advancements.

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw it.

Freude am Fahren
May 21st, 2017, 01:02 PM
BTW, Alonso had to have an engine change, and I think he's just barely made tech in time. He just can't win with Honda. :o

Blerpa
May 21st, 2017, 02:34 PM
BTW, Alonso had to have an engine change, and I think he's just barely made tech in time. He just can't win with Honda. :o

Getting fifth place on the grid at his first Indy 500 ever sounds pretty impressive to me, tho.

Drachen596
May 22nd, 2017, 04:22 PM
Local news report says Bourdais is out for the season due to the hip injury.

XHawkeye
May 23rd, 2017, 06:08 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAdewYrW0AAp6Z7.jpg:large

I'm not going to go for a run tomorrow, but I'm up! Thank you all for your support! pic.twitter.com/1u5OtqdbBg

Crazed_Insanity
May 23rd, 2017, 07:52 AM
:up:

FaultyMario
May 23rd, 2017, 11:37 AM
from ayayay! to yay!

Kchrpm
May 25th, 2017, 07:54 AM
New concept images of the 2018 car: http://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/25/2018-indycar-shows-off-aerodynamics/

Super Speedway:

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/718/8/S5047188/slug/l/0524-render02-1.jpg

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/719/0/S5047190/slug/l/0524-render04-1.jpg

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/719/2/S5047192/slug/l/0524-render06-1.jpg

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/719/6/S5047196/slug/l/0524-render10-1.jpg

High Downforce

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/718/7/S5047187/slug/l/0524-render01-1.jpg

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/718/9/S5047189/slug/l/0524-render03-1.jpg

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/719/1/S5047191/slug/l/0524-render05-1.jpg

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/504/719/4/S5047194/slug/l/0524-render07-1.jpg

Crazed_Insanity
May 25th, 2017, 10:12 AM
Wow! Looks pretty hot!

Tom Servo
May 25th, 2017, 01:58 PM
I like it, but I thought they had a whole thing about not leaving the rear tires exposed like that to lessen the chance of another car getting launched skyward?

Reynard
May 25th, 2017, 02:16 PM
A common misunderstanding is that the rear wheel pods aka "Kardashians", were brought about to prevent cars climbing over each other when in fact that was hoped side benefit from them. Their true intent was to prevent cut tires from wing on tire contact which had become exceedingly prevalent at the time especially on temp street courses.

Now I don't know if the latest construction of the Firestones they use are more puncture resistant then in the past of not, all I know is those pods were pretty universally hated by the fans and that's the reason for their removal.

Regarding the renders, yeah it's still looking better for sure. I don't like the massive floor relative to the new side pods myself but I realize that it's still the same chassis and they need to make their downforce somewhere so there you go.

Tom Servo
May 25th, 2017, 02:30 PM
Ahh, count me under the common misunderstanders. I thought that was the entire purpose of them.

I also agree that they are goddamn hideous, much like whatever head protection thing that F1 adopts will be. Still, would rather have fewer injured/killed drivers than prettier cars.

dodint
May 25th, 2017, 02:59 PM
Make the wings out of rubber.

You're welcome.

The359
May 25th, 2017, 07:18 PM
The concern was actually more for the cars interlocking wheels, and so Dallara added the fin behind the rear tire.

I think one reason the rear pods are going is that they tens to be easily knocked off, leading to large debris on the track.

Went to the Dallara factory in Speedway, Indiana today for a tour. We were not allowed on the factory floor however because Dallara was constructing aero test pieces for the 2018 cars and did not want them viewable by the public.

Drachen596
May 25th, 2017, 09:03 PM
Should have pulled up that article and asked exactly which parts they were working on that day.

Alan P
May 26th, 2017, 03:31 PM
Make the wings out of rubber.

You're welcome.

Not sure about Indycar but I know F1 mandates rounded ends of a minimum circumference so there's no sharp edge and (hopefully) less chance of a tyre being punctured.

FaultyMario
May 28th, 2017, 08:33 AM
The Ganassis are working nice!

Freude am Fahren
May 28th, 2017, 11:36 AM
Wow. Maybe Alonso should just avoid Hondas at all costs.

XHawkeye
May 28th, 2017, 01:44 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA8CgcCXsAIwOnR.jpg:large

"And our engines blow-up here, and here, and here....." pic.twitter.com/wdXA6eImDO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA8GAWqXkAAusF1.jpg:large

An F1 driver DOES win the Indy 500. @TakumaSatoRacer 👍 pic.twitter.com/oi38zWGdZF

Crazed_Insanity
May 28th, 2017, 06:15 PM
Happy for Sato!

Unfortunately we've confirmed that Alonso and Honda just don't mix well together...

Team Andretti sure has been impressive lately... Making up for all the previous losses as racers I guess...

balki
May 29th, 2017, 06:16 AM
very impressed with both the crash structure of the cars and the response from the infield trucks (they started rolling before Scott Dixon's car even hit the fence)

The359
May 29th, 2017, 01:16 PM
very impressed with both the crash structure of the cars and the response from the infield trucks (they started rolling before Scott Dixon's car even hit the fence)

Which was actually a problem because the accident for Conor Daly had the T3/T4 safety truck starting to roll out, then Harvey (I think...?) spinning out exiting Turn 3. Thankfully the safety crew saw it and stopped because he would have collected them.

Freude am Fahren
May 29th, 2017, 01:24 PM
They also at one point were driving towards pit entry, right after pit lane was opened, with the cars starting to come in. They had to stop and back out of the way.

Crazed_Insanity
May 29th, 2017, 05:35 PM
Anyway, I think indycars and Indy the race are incredibly safe now. Could've had some very serious injuries with this year's accidents if it happened a few years back!

Tom Servo
June 5th, 2017, 10:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s69XiUdzbWg

dodint
June 14th, 2017, 10:21 AM
ROTY ^

Kchrpm
July 25th, 2017, 06:03 AM
http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/finally-an-indycar-that-doesnt-terrible-1797223743

Pictures of the super speedway IndyCar kit for 2018

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/akd7ayhkvvbxlmnjctof.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/jzykkwiopi38cjjumtpw.jpg

FaultyMario
July 25th, 2017, 07:13 AM
Is the tub the same for both Honda and Chevy? Could there be Champcar combos coming soon?

Kchrpm
July 25th, 2017, 07:16 AM
It's the exact same chassis for everyone going forward, they're giving up the aero kit idea.

FaultyMario
July 25th, 2017, 08:22 AM
So all use the DW12, what's the attractive to engine manufacturers, did Honda just presented the superspeedway version and chevrolet the road spec?

The359
July 25th, 2017, 09:03 AM
They are allowed small areas where the manufacturers can change things, but both those cars are identical. They're testing at the Speedway now I believe.

dodint
July 25th, 2017, 09:11 AM
I've heard the Honda blew up on the outlap. Not joking.

The359
July 25th, 2017, 11:51 AM
From what racer.com says, the Honda was the first car to go out and set a couple laps. The Chevy couldn't get started due to electrical issues.

dodint
July 25th, 2017, 12:03 PM
Ah, okay. Thanks!

Alan P
July 25th, 2017, 03:27 PM
http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/finally-an-indycar-that-doesnt-terrible-1797223743

Pictures of the super speedway IndyCar kit for 2018

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/akd7ayhkvvbxlmnjctof.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/jzykkwiopi38cjjumtpw.jpg

That looks proper Bad-ass!

FaultyMario
July 25th, 2017, 05:00 PM
Would a little Hanford ruin it for you guys?

Tom Servo
July 25th, 2017, 07:30 PM
It's definitely a vast improvement over the current one. Kinda wish that little stabilizer wasn't running along the centerline, but kinda like the shark fins elsewhere, I know it's necessary to, ya know, not kill people.

Freude am Fahren
July 26th, 2017, 06:27 AM
Don't like the pontoons in front of the rear wheels, but otherwise, I like it.

Kchrpm
August 1st, 2017, 09:43 AM
The road course trim is being tested today at Mid-Ohio.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrPU-1pspto

http://i.imgur.com/9eqtujC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fvDFuJC.jpg

Edit: IndyCar.com has a gallery up http://www.indycar.com/photos/gallery?g=3140

http://d2i8ejbvsgsqtt.cloudfront.net/gallery/midohio/2017/20170801-cjones/med/04CJ2661A.jpg

http://d2i8ejbvsgsqtt.cloudfront.net/gallery/midohio/2017/20170801-cjones/med/04CJ9472A.jpg

http://d2i8ejbvsgsqtt.cloudfront.net/gallery/midohio/2017/20170801-cjones/med/04CJ2567A.jpg

http://d2i8ejbvsgsqtt.cloudfront.net/gallery/midohio/2017/20170801-cjones/med/04CJ2547A.jpg

FaultyMario
August 1st, 2017, 10:58 AM
That blue road package is gorgeous.

Kchrpm
August 2nd, 2017, 06:57 AM
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/131085


Juan Pablo Montoya and Oriol Servia believe the 2018 IndyCar will be much more challenging to drive and entertaining to watch, after completing its first road course test.

The two veterans are carrying out initial tests with the new aerokit on IndyCar's behalf before it is distributed to teams, and gave the road course version its debut at Mid-Ohio on Tuesday.

The new kit generates between 25% and 30% less downforce than the current manufacturer-developed aero packages.

"People from the outside need to see you are hustling the car," said Montoya.

"Right now it looks like it's on rails. On TV, you watch the guy leading, and you watch the guy running 15th, and it looks as if they are doing the same thing.

"You're going to see the hands moving a lot more on the steering wheel in the cockpit [in 2018].

"You're going to see the cars get out of shape a lot easier.

"Things that normally used to be a 'gimme', with this car it's like 'oh my God!'

"Going over the crest at the back [Turn 9] you're spinning the tyres, you're sideways through there."

Servia said the comparison to how the 2017 cars behaved in last weekend's event was clear.

"In qualifying, I'm pretty sure these guys were almost flat in Turn 1," he said.

"You can't do that with this car. You have to lift, touch the brake a little bit, and you're still not sure if you're going to make it, so it's definitely more challenging."

He added that the reduce in drag made the new car feel more powerful, comparing it to the Reynard-Toyota he drove as a CART Champ Car rookie in 2000.

"You definitely feel the power," said Servia.

"The car accelerates more on the straights because there is less drag, so it keeps accelerating, and you keep shifting gears.

"It reminds me a little bit of my rookie year in 2000, not only how much it accelerates out of the corners, but it keeps accelerating.

"I think it's going to create more overtaking too."

Montoya felt more power would still be welcome.

"The next step needs to be a little more power, but you can really tell the power now with this lighter downforce," he said.

"You can get in trouble easier. With the higher downforce, the throttle is pretty much like a switch."

IndyCar's vice president of competition/race engineering Bill Pappas said ensuring drivers had to "drive the car, rather than ride in it" had been a key aim of the 2018 aero.

Montoya and Servia's remaining tests take place at the Iowa oval on August 28 and Sebring on September 26.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Edit: I didn't know they were on track together, I wonder if they were able to test aero wash.

Edit 2: http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/08/08-01-New-car-test-MidOhio-final

“Even at Detroit, where the speeds are a lot less, which was my last race I did (in June), you couldn’t get close to anyone even in the slow corners because there was so much downforce,” he added. “Here, of course there was downforce, but it stays very balanced. This year’s car, the rear gets loose. And the new car, you lose a little bit of front, but not much. I was surprised. I think it’s honestly very positive.

“Apparently, science works.”

http://digbza2f4g9qo.cloudfront.net/~/media/IndyCar/News/Standard/2017/08/08-01-Montoya-Servia-NoseToTail-AK18-MID.jpg

Kchrpm
October 10th, 2017, 08:33 AM
Testing at Road America today

https://i.redd.it/gl1mtiarn0rz.jpg

dodint
October 10th, 2017, 08:43 AM
Unf.

CudaMan
October 10th, 2017, 09:56 AM
Delicious.

FaultyMario
October 10th, 2017, 03:04 PM
I see Penske has Newgarden, Pagenaud, Power and Castroneves confirmed. What happens to JPM, Is he in line for an attempt at the 24?

The359
October 10th, 2017, 03:56 PM
I see Penske has Newgarden, Pagenaud, Power and Castroneves confirmed. What happens to JPM, Is he in line for an attempt at the 24?

Montoya and Castroneves are running Penske's new Acura LMP program. Castroneves only has an IndyCar ride for Indy.

Freude am Fahren
October 12th, 2017, 09:00 PM
Indy's going back to PIR! :)

Instead of the Glen :(

dodint
October 12th, 2017, 09:08 PM
Weak.

Reynard
October 13th, 2017, 05:21 PM
Strong.

I say this first because, even with the chicane I think the circuit actually has the potential to provide a more exciting race. Secondly (and selfishly) because while I've been to CART/Champcar/Indycar races at Vancouver, Sonoma, San Jose, Laguna Seca & Long Beach... I never went to Portland. So now I can check off that box. :)

tigeraid
October 23rd, 2017, 08:00 AM
PIR I think is potentially a better track for passing opportunities. I'm okay with this.

I might actually try to follow this upcoming season.

Kchrpm
February 2nd, 2018, 07:37 PM
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/02/indycar-windshield-race-car-testing/

To be tested on track for the first time in February 8 after two years of development and simulator testing.

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/723/170/0/S7231700/slug/l/jgs-0900-1-1.jpg

Godson
February 3rd, 2018, 01:41 PM
Shame this wasn't developed sooner.

Several drivers would still be alive.

FaultyMario
August 29th, 2018, 10:21 AM
There was a twit from Max Papis explaining how he lost the 2008 Montreal Nascar race to Boris Said. He claims he ate too much kerb and damaged his carburetor, was heartbroken.

I wish more drivers would open up to the fans about that sort of thing. I vividly remember how in the Gonchi Rodríguez Netflix Documentary (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4997830), Gonzalo tells he caught JPM napping at Les Combes (https://youtu.be/FMUWxfWpq5o?t=8m50s) in the 1998 F3000 race. And how even though they were friends, Montoya still went for the classic "gear lever got stuck" excuse when they met afterwards.

CudaMan
August 29th, 2018, 02:16 PM
I wish more drivers would open up to the fans about that sort of thing.
Ever listen to the Dinner With Racers podcast? Stories abound.

dodint
August 29th, 2018, 02:22 PM
Happened to listen to my first one today, the Rossi episode. On Keith's recommendation.

FaultyMario
August 29th, 2018, 05:45 PM
Thanks, cuda!

Tom Servo
August 29th, 2018, 06:05 PM
Ever listen to the Dinner With Racers podcast? Stories abound.

Oooh, subscribing.

CudaMan
August 30th, 2018, 06:26 AM
It's a great format. They talk over dinner and drinks so a lot of the guests are/get loosened up. :)

Tom Servo
August 30th, 2018, 05:28 PM
Just listened to the Andy Lally one, that was a fun listen.

FaultyMario
September 9th, 2018, 01:43 PM
I debated if I should post this in the LM thread as the car in question is a LM24 winner, and this track is generally associated with American car racing, including but not limited to Indycars. In the end I chose to post Mika Hakkinen driving 1995 LeMans-winning McLaren F1 at Laguna Seca because of the "generic" in the thread title.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwVQfrstsA8

What do you reckon he's giving it?, 5/10, maybe 6? What do you say Cuda, you drove Laguna in similar machinery, only it was 20 years newer. What do you think of the car, the driving?

One thing I love about this particular run is that, unlike say the Porsche thing at Spa, this is the original combo but with modern recording technology. The sound coming thru my headphones is glorious.

SkylineObsession
September 16th, 2018, 07:14 PM
Go Dixon!

Shoulda won last year too...

CudaMan
September 21st, 2018, 05:38 PM
I was there watching Mika's laps at Laguna. He drove well but was clearly treating the car like the priceless piece of history it is. Taking it easy on tire warmup, braking early and gently into corners, never sliding the car, etc. Was nice to hear him wring out the engine though. :up: Looks like a much more physical/raw car to drive than the modern stuff. The steering looks heavy.

FaultyMario
October 26th, 2018, 04:34 AM
Robert Wickens has published a video on Twitter where he confirms he suffers from lower body paralysis as a a result of his Pocono crash.


Did my first slide transfer as a paraplegic today. My upper body is getting stronger everyday. I’ve only been posting videos of the small movement in my legs, but the reality is I am far away from walking on my own. I’ve never worked harder for anything in my life. More to come!!

Sucks.

FaultyMario
October 31st, 2018, 02:03 PM
No Greg Moore for nineteen years to day.


That too, sucks.

Kchrpm
November 1st, 2018, 05:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRWN3GIavI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZQtjnq-fE

FaultyMario
November 1st, 2018, 07:07 PM
Is it my untrained eye or is the suspension geometry completely different to F1 cars?

Kchrpm
December 2nd, 2018, 08:08 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq5o7-vH_GX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Alan P
December 3rd, 2018, 04:25 AM
Login to see the content? Instant close tab.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq5o7-vH_GX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

dodint
December 3rd, 2018, 05:59 AM
I didn't have to login to get it to play.

Kchrpm
December 3rd, 2018, 06:19 AM
Someone grabbed it and put it on YouTube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNx_sQ4P0yc

Alan P
December 4th, 2018, 09:34 AM
That is like no hospital I've ever been in. It's so quiet!

FaultyMario
February 11th, 2019, 10:25 AM
Pato O'Ward has been released from his contract by Harding/Steinbrenner (https://beyondtheflag.com/2019/02/11/indycar-patricio-oward-wont-drive-harding-steinbrenner-racing-2019/) after they couldn't guarantee him a full schedule for 2019, so he's now looking for a team. As Indy lights champions he has a $1M sponsorship package that secures him the 500 plus two other races, but no more. Bummer.

The359
February 11th, 2019, 02:27 PM
But if he ends up with no ride, what is the point? As far as I'm aware, there's only a couple seats left in IndyCar.

dodint
February 11th, 2019, 03:34 PM
I hope he wins the 500 just to make the system look that much more absurd.

FaultyMario
February 11th, 2019, 03:47 PM
I just wanna see him drive road courses.

FaultyMario
March 25th, 2019, 06:30 AM
Cota T19 track limits, any thoughts?

Freude am Fahren
March 25th, 2019, 07:14 AM
Wasn't a fan of it entirely. But the problem is the track design. I think if you can leave the track on the outside and be faster, the track is designed wrong.

I don't want small mistakes to cause DNF's, but they need some kind of better solution.

The Rosenqvist incident highlights a big problem there. When two cars go off, who's at fault, the car swerving back to the track and avoid the grass, or the the one who can't turn because he's bouncing over the curbs?

Kchrpm
March 25th, 2019, 12:01 PM
The argument I heard for allowing the extra run off was tire wear focused rather than anything else, so maybe they can figure out a way to modify the track or the tire. COTA chews through front tires anyway.

Kchrpm
March 25th, 2019, 12:02 PM
To be clear, I have little to no opinion about it either way, just parroting what little info I have.

FaultyMario
April 12th, 2019, 08:24 PM
This weekend's race appers to be one on the classic side.

FaultyMario
May 9th, 2019, 11:13 AM
Pato O'Ward has been released from his contract by Harding/Steinbrenner (https://beyondtheflag.com/2019/02/11/indycar-patricio-oward-wont-drive-harding-steinbrenner-racing-2019/) after they couldn't guarantee him a full schedule for 2019, so he's now looking for a team. As Indy lights champions he has a $1M sponsorship package that secures him the 500 plus two other races, but no more. Bummer.

...and O'Ward joins the RBR program (https://racer.com/2019/05/09/oward-joins-red-bull-junior-team/).

The359
May 10th, 2019, 06:49 AM
Didn't know they still had a Junior program

FaultyMario
May 10th, 2019, 08:54 AM
Yes, they do (https://juniorteam.redbull.com/drivers).

Most famous/promising of whom is Dan Ticktum, but some people see him as "damaged goods" after his two-year ban.

Alan P
May 14th, 2019, 02:07 PM
Yes, they do (https://juniorteam.redbull.com/drivers).

Most famous/promising of whom is Dan Ticktum, but some people see him as "damaged goods" after his two-year ban.

Considering that in 2015, Ticktum graduated to MSA Formula with Fortec Motorsport. He led the early rounds of the Championship, until an incident at Silverstone, where he purposely overtook several cars while under safety car conditions to crash into a rival, Ricky Collard. This saw him receive a two-year ban from motorsport, of which one year was a suspended ban. As a result, he finished 6th in his first season of single seater racing.

FaultyMario
May 14th, 2019, 03:31 PM
Considering that in 2015, Ticktum graduated to MSA Formula with Fortec Motorsport. He led the early rounds of the Championship, until an incident at Silverstone, where he purposely overtook several cars while under safety car conditions to crash into a rival, Ricky Collard. This saw him receive a two-year ban from motorsport, of which one year was a suspended ban. As a result, he finished 6th in his first season of single seater racing.

"Incident". Wasn't he shown multiple yellow, double-waived yellow, checkered, pirate and oil-on-track flags multiple times before he rammed that other kid.

samoht
May 20th, 2019, 01:25 PM
McLaren does it again - Indy 500 a comedy of errors:

https://apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff

* With a week to go before the first test, they realised they had failed to build a steering wheel for their car, as they had intended. CEO Zak Brown had to beg one from Cosworth, but getting it set up lost them half a day's running.
* The spare car was delivered in the wrong shade of orange. When Alonso crashed and needed it, it took two days to get it out of the paint shop and build it up.
* Alonso lost his first qualifying run due to a puncture, which wasn't detected due to having the wrong tyre pressure sensors
* When practicing for the last row shootout, the team begged help from other teams, but failed to convert inches to centimetres, leaving the car too low to the ground and aborting the run. (McLaren has form here, in F1 winter testing they managed to fit Button's suspension arms upside down leaving the car too low to the ground. Initial joy at their rediscovered pace evaporated when they discovered they were running an illegal ride height.)
* Alonso averaged 227.35 mph in the final shootout, losing out on a place by 0.02 mph. Afterwards the team realised their gearing was set to redline at 227.5 mph, when the car could have got to 229 with the right ratio.

Crazed_Insanity
May 20th, 2019, 01:56 PM
McLaren without Ron Dennis is like Apple without Steve Jobs I guess.

If McLaren is never going to get Ron Dennis back, I wonder how many more years can Brown keep his job while apologizing to fans.

At least on the F-1 side, we're seeing some improvements. Doing better than Renault with a Renault engine is definitely a step in the right direction.

Alonso really should just partner with one of the top Indycar teams if he really wants to win one.

Yobbo NZ
May 20th, 2019, 02:34 PM
He'd be better off joining the series than jumping in to try win a one off race.
Then we'd get an idea of his pace vs Dixon and the other regulars.
I think Alonso would be in for a bit of a shock if he did that though.

Crazed_Insanity
May 20th, 2019, 03:12 PM
I think Nigel Mansell have proven that F1 champ is quick enough to win in maiden year in a top indy team.

JV took another year to achieve that in F1 in a way more superior car.

Assuming Mclaren won’t operate the car, Alonso should have a good chance winning the championship, but will need more luck with the 500.

FaultyMario
May 20th, 2019, 05:27 PM
Anybody else heard the rumor that Ed Carpenter Racing quoted them for 2M for a setup package on Saturday night?

Major clusterfuck over at McLaren. I wouldn't believe it was solely Bob Fernley's fault, as much as it wasn't Eric Boulier or Tim Goss.

dodint
May 20th, 2019, 08:32 PM
Zak Brown mismanaged something in an embarrassing way? No way.

Rare White Ape
May 22nd, 2019, 01:22 PM
Talk about stomping the fine McLaren name into the dirt.

Rare White Ape
August 9th, 2019, 02:42 PM
Speaking of McLaren (how’s this for a thread resurrection!) they’ve just announced that they’re competing in Indy Car full time starting next year. Presumably with Alonso as one of the drivers. Cool!

Tom Servo
August 9th, 2019, 03:40 PM
I thought they'd parted ways?

Edit: Sounds like there's no plans for him to drive with them, but they're open to "adding a third car" to the lineup if he wants to drive for them: https://racer.com/2019/08/09/mclaren-open-to-adding-third-2020-indycar-for-alonso/

dodint
August 9th, 2019, 04:15 PM
Yeah, they're merging with an existing team.

Rare White Ape
August 9th, 2019, 05:36 PM
I thought they'd parted ways?

Edit: Sounds like there's no plans for him to drive with them, but they're open to "adding a third car" to the lineup if he wants to drive for them: https://racer.com/2019/08/09/mclaren-open-to-adding-third-2020-indycar-for-alonso/

Thanks. I said ‘presumably’ because I saw the headline and didn’t look any further into it :p

I’m thinking it’s a given that Alonso will have another crack at the Indy 500. But i also think it would be silly to do it without also competing in extra races if the availability is there.

Crazed_Insanity
August 9th, 2019, 06:17 PM
I thought Alonso is not interested in full time Indy season, but Mclaren doing this full season with an existing team should help avoid the fiasco again...

Tom Servo
August 9th, 2019, 06:35 PM
Thanks. I said ‘presumably’ because I saw the headline and didn’t look any further into it :p

I’m thinking it’s a given that Alonso will have another crack at the Indy 500. But i also think it would be silly to do it without also competing in extra races if the availability is there.

Definitely a given, but I can only see him with McLaren if he can't get any other team interested, which feels like a longshot.

FaultyMario
August 14th, 2019, 11:56 AM
look, a pretty wagon!

3349

Rare White Ape
September 21st, 2019, 11:06 PM
A question: can anyone explain for me the timing line procedure that's being used here?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBt4ui7mhYQ

It looks like the cars are being timed before they approach pit entry. A bit odd considering the start line is another few hundred meters down the track.

The only reason I can see them doing it is so that they can duck into the pits quickly after finishing their lap, but it makes it hard to follow if you're expecting the cars to cross the line on the main straight and you don't know why.

dodint
September 22nd, 2019, 05:27 AM
Yeah, they do that a lot so cars on the in lap do not obstruct cars on a flying lap.

Rare White Ape
October 2nd, 2019, 06:16 PM
Ugh…

https://racer.com/2019/10/02/first-on-track-views-of-indycar-aeroscreen/

XHawkeye
October 3rd, 2019, 04:42 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF8FdNpXoAAwchu.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF8Fdu9WkAAFtb1.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF8FfLsXoAEpMwr.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF8FeiOXoAAl0rS.jpg

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1179667670544846848

Godson
October 5th, 2019, 08:39 AM
So very ugly

Alan P
October 5th, 2019, 01:25 PM
So very ugly

Yeah it's just a bit too high compared to the rest of the car so looks a little bit out of place. The halo is very well integrated.

XHawkeye
November 4th, 2019, 06:39 AM
https://twitter.com/dustinlong/status/1191340091270221825

NEWS: Hulman & Company is announces the sale of the company & certain subsidiaries, including the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the NTT IndyCar Series and Indianapolis Motor Speedway Productions (IMS Productions), to Penske Entertainment Corp., a subsidiary of Penske Corporation

FaultyMario
November 4th, 2019, 07:37 AM
Come on, not again!

FaultyMario
November 4th, 2019, 07:40 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIit5d9WwAA-pcJ.jpg

Crazed_Insanity
November 4th, 2019, 10:06 AM
I think this is great news for Indycars.

I do wonder if IC engines will survive another 100 years... or will our civilization survive another 100 years... ;)

Kchrpm
November 6th, 2019, 08:11 AM
I look forward to seeing electric race cars that can finish the Indy 500 averaging 180+ mph including stops and cautions.

Crazed_Insanity
November 6th, 2019, 11:36 AM
"Gentlemen, start your electric motors!!!"

(Thundering silence... well, the crowd will probably cheer very loudly!)

FaultyMario
November 14th, 2019, 07:18 AM
Isn't the Aeroscreen more suited to a narrow-tub car with higher sides, like the Lola T8700?

IMO Penske ought to order some revisions to the safety cell to allow for a more integrated look of the aeroscreen and to solve the hot air issue.

I just think that a futuristic version of this:

https://e8a5b5cae2ca29a5b2cf-ae3bf404739f919e5986acb93118975c.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.c om/cache/images/1326_400_crop_historicmotorsportcars1987lolat87002 jumbotronmd_hlwLkugKqr.jpg
is what audiences want.

The359
November 14th, 2019, 10:05 AM
With all the head and neck protection systems in place in the cockpit already, a narrow chassis is just impossible.

Kchrpm
November 14th, 2019, 10:59 AM
They're switching to a new chassis soon anyway, where it can be well integrated from the start.

FaultyMario
November 14th, 2019, 11:58 AM
They're switching to a new chassis soon anyway, where it can be well integrated from the start.

https://intl.startrek.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x628/public/images/2019-01/d7b431b1a0cc5f032399870ff4710743.jpeg.jpg

Rare White Ape
November 14th, 2019, 03:39 PM
This popped up on you YouTube suggestions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXXS8K9mT84

FaultyMario
November 26th, 2019, 11:44 AM
Motorsport: Indycar analyzing path to 900-hp hybrid engines in 2022.
(https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/indycar-2022-hybrid-proposal-analysis/4600201/)

Jay Frye: “That timeline is very much part of what we’re evaluating. In 2020 we’ve got the aeroscreen obviously, but in 2021 there is a window of opportunity so, thinking economically, maybe we break these things out a little differently from what we originally thought. There are a lot of moving pieces right now, it’s fluid, the five-year-plan is a rolling entity – actually we’re already starting to populate ideas for 2026 and ’27 – and we’re aware that economics matter. So right now we’re getting all the data to evaluate how we timeline it.”

"One economic implication being assessed is how much it would cost to modify the current car to run the new engine in 2022 and then buy the next-gen chassis – the one ‘tailor-made’ for the new engine – in 2023, compared with teams taking on the challenge of paying for a new engine and a new chassis in the one year."

Crazed_Insanity
November 26th, 2019, 12:06 PM
After Roger Penske completes purchase of Indy500 along with the Mercedes F1 team, maybe they can just use the current F1 engine formula and badge it Chevy. Honda could also use their current F1 engine to save money. They'd just have to make sure their indy chassis could fit the F1 engines...

However F1 formula changes, Indycar should change along with it... so that F1 teams/drivers could easily make a switch to race in the Indy500! :D

Indy teams could also be development test beds for the F1 teams... and perhaps be able to absorb some unfortunate talented drivers who lost out in the musical chair game...

Now that the indycar/IRL merged nicely... I think it's time to merge Indycar with F1 once again... :) Using the existed F1 hybrid engine makes financial sense. Indy team owners who wish to compete in F1 will simply have to build or buy their own F1 team. If that's too rich for your blood, then stick around Indycars.

FaultyMario
November 26th, 2019, 02:55 PM
I think the annual lease for a supply of two F1 power units costs more than the whole budget of an Indycar team. It wouldn't make financial sense to do that sort of badge-engineering.

Plus, Penske has debunked the rumors about the Mercedes-AMG F1 purchase.

Kchrpm
November 26th, 2019, 03:46 PM
I assumed that whole post was sarcasm, because it was insanely stupid otherwise. F1 cars/teams are in a different stratosphere budget wise from IndyCar, and IndyCar owners are trying to figure out how to reduce costs by 1/6th-1/3rd.

dodint
November 26th, 2019, 07:45 PM
I love the idea that Indy is so shoestring that they can't afford to buy a whole car in a year, they have to split the cost of the motor and the chassis over two years.

Maybe they can flip tires on the wheel and reuse them tonsave some bucks like I do.

Crazed_Insanity
November 27th, 2019, 07:47 AM
I actually wasn’t being sarcastic, but certainly very wishful thinking.

I don’t even watch F1 races anymore, just highlights on YouTube. I don’t even bother watching highlights of Indycar races...

So Roger Penske gotta do something special in order win more audiences like me.

I don’t understand how mass producing 20-30more engines won’t be able to bring the cost down?

You don’t think Renault would appreciate selling more of their engines else where to help recoup their development costs?

Anyway, just telling you guys my vision of future Indy if I were Roger, but of course I’m not Roger! :p

Rare White Ape
November 27th, 2019, 11:29 AM
Mass producing 747s is expensive. But try mass producing 20-30 space shuttle orbiters.

You’re talking about switching them from their already expensive current technology, to mega-expensive F1 technology, based on the notion that they want some kind of hybrid tech in the next few years, and you don’t understand why it won’t be economically feasible?

Think of gold plated toilet roll holders. But in F1 they use two layers of gold plating.

Crazed_Insanity
November 27th, 2019, 01:08 PM
Think of the development cost of such toilet paper holder.

Renault building just one for themselves vs also building more for other teams to sell or lease... Which do you think will actually cost more for Renault?

Mass producing anything can only bring down per unit cost. This is applicable to shuttles, stealth bombers or gold plated toilet paper holders.

The problem is that once you cease production, it’d be expensive proposition to try to buy more shuttles or B-2 bombers.

Just look at this from Honda’s point of view...

Would it be cheaper for them to develop a brand new power unit for indycar, or if they could just build more of their year old F1 engine?

I could be wrong, but I tend to think the later would be cheaper. Only issue would be legal... would F1 allow this? Probably not.

Anyway, just my wishful crazy thinking... I just think those 2 series need to work closer together one way or another. Sharing power units should make it cheaper for teams...

Kchrpm
November 27th, 2019, 04:22 PM
The problem is that since F1 engines are constantly being developed and are near the leading edge of tech in the category, they are far more likely to be made by hand and/or custom, very expensive machinery. You would have to lock down the development of F1 engines more than you would need to worry about scale.

And IndyCar is trying to attract more teams, with the biggest preventing them being the approximately $6 million dollar annual budget to run a car. Making that even more expensive for new teams, and the teams that are propping up the sport by running 3+ cars at every race, is probably not a good idea.

Crazed_Insanity
November 27th, 2019, 05:25 PM
F1 is at a cost bind as well. Mercedes reportedly spent $1.4 billion developing their engine. Ferrari probably spent more. Little wonder Renault and Honda are thinking of pulling out.

No way racing point and Williams and hosts of other Indy teams will be able to help Mercedes recover the entire $1.4billion, but every little bit surely will help offset the cost.

Anyway, my point is the the 2 series need to collaborate more. We didn’t need both CART and IRL back then... it’s good to see them finally join forces again. Personally I think F1 is losing steam too... let alone Indycar series...

Mercedes is probably bored by now... both Honda and Renault are not really that committed is cost keeps on rising... F1 could soon become Ferrari 1! Personally I think it’s a good time for the 2 open wheel series to somehow collaborate and cut cost one way or another.

FaultyMario
November 27th, 2019, 06:56 PM
That's different from saying "IndyCar could use Honda-F1 hybrids!".

Blerpa
November 28th, 2019, 03:19 AM
Honda has just officially declared they are going to supply engines to RB and TR (actually AT now) till 2021.
Also, Mercedes did end last F1 season in positive.

Why should they collaborate? It's like saying WEC and Go Kart racing should collaborate.
Your last post is completely devoid of a single proven fact, if not underlying the opposite of actual information - To Billy.
6 million dollars for a whole season in Indycar? An average F1 car costs about 12.2 million dollars to be built, at least (10.5 million dollars just a single engine unit). A single F1 car.

Truly: it's like comparing the cost of a Lego F40 and a real F40.

Crazed_Insanity
November 28th, 2019, 11:57 AM
Truly: it's like comparing the cost of a Lego F40 and a real F40.

You got factual data to back this up?

If you could prove my wishful thinking wrong with factual data, that’d be awesome! :p

Blerpa
November 28th, 2019, 12:10 PM
Enjoy.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/formula-one-car-cost/amp/

Crazed_Insanity
November 28th, 2019, 12:35 PM
Very interesting factual data. But...

https://www.ebay.com/i/123886715942?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=123886715942&targetid=593772107933&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9041427&poi=&campaignid=2086088343&mkgroupid=77258593596&rlsatarget=pla-593772107933&abcId=1141016&merchantid=113669970&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0-epq-yN5gIVl8VkCh1FowBBEAkYAyABEgLqzvD_BwE

Lego f40 = $190

https://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/results/ferrari/f40

Real f40 = $1.9 millions

So it’s a factor of roughly 10,000.

I really don’t think average Indycar teams annual budget is 10000 times less than an average F1 team, right? :p

Kchrpm
December 1st, 2019, 11:59 AM
It's about 50-100 times the budget rather than 10,000, but the point is still made. Want to start an IndyCar team? You need millions of dollars. Want to start an F1 team? You need hundreds of millions of dollars.

Yes, in theory the FIA and IndyCar could get together and come up with a joint spec for the powertrains between the two leagues, but the budgets, needs, and expectations for improvement are very different currently, and IndyCar teams would not accept any significant raising of the costs or loss in reliability, so F1 would likely end up being pegged back quite a bit from where they are now.

FaultyMario
February 2nd, 2020, 12:08 PM
i mean, i don't dislike fernando

but oh my god

https://i.imgflip.com/3nz2az.jpg (https://racer.com/2020/02/02/honda-vetoes-alonso-andretti-indy-500-deal/)

Clickable image.

Crazed_Insanity
February 2nd, 2020, 11:00 PM
This is causing a strange feeling... I feel kind bad for Alonso, but at the same time feel that he deserved what he’s getting. Is there a word to describe such sensation!

FaultyMario
February 3rd, 2020, 06:55 AM
Apparently this, two days before the Andretti deal was officially announced, was not well received by the Honda board in Tokyo.


“The speech came from a place of frustration and maybe I shouldn’t say that, but I didn’t speak on a TV microphone or at a press conference,” he explained in an interview with ‘F1 Racing Magazine’.

“I was talking to my engineer in private and it ended up being broadcast. It was not to go to the public. But the engine was really bad. In the first year, in Jerez, in four days we completed seven laps ”, he continued.

Blerpa
February 3rd, 2020, 07:05 AM
It's not like he defamed them.
It was true... actually he was even too diplomatic about it.

FaultyMario
February 3rd, 2020, 09:22 AM
"Yeah, I want to make peace dude. I just hope your hands not sweaty, cos that was kind of icky."

FaultyMario
February 4th, 2020, 11:29 AM
Bourdais and Kellet Join AJ Foyt Racing. I think they will race a limited schedule with the same crew/car in which Kanaan drives the 5 big oval races.

dodint
February 4th, 2020, 11:49 AM
Go away Bourdais.

Godson
February 4th, 2020, 05:55 PM
Bourdais, biggest douche in Motorsports. According to Legge

Rare White Ape
February 4th, 2020, 05:58 PM
I must’ve missed the story there.

FaultyMario
February 7th, 2020, 09:25 AM
The SPAM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQMGhyVWAAAPyQh.jpg

I'm sure I saw an All-American(ish) Racer livery reveal yesterday. Could have been AJ Foyt's.

Kchrpm
February 9th, 2020, 04:59 AM
Graham Rahal's United Rentals livery is very red-white-and-blue

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1225101768624873474/pu/img/YUeIIFFoju-1isxo.jpg

https://twitter.com/RLLracing/status/1225101893644554242

FaultyMario
February 9th, 2020, 06:43 AM
Yes, that was it. Thank you.

FaultyMario
February 13th, 2020, 01:46 PM
Lots of pics from COTA cold test. (https://www.racefans.net/2020/02/13/pictures-first-test-for-indycars-new-aeroscreen-generation/)

Rare White Ape
February 13th, 2020, 03:39 PM
Dem screens... :|

I know, I get it. I know why. I know the reasons. But can they not make them just a wee bit smaller and more aesthetically pleasing?

Alan P
February 17th, 2020, 03:19 PM
Dem screens... :|

I know, I get it. I know why. I know the reasons. But can they not make them just a wee bit smaller and more aesthetically pleasing?

I think it's because they aren't at the same angle as the nose so you get this increase in rake and it makes the screen look horrendously out of place.

Kchrpm
February 17th, 2020, 05:38 PM
They'll be better integrated on the new car since it's not a retrofit.

Rare White Ape
February 19th, 2020, 06:25 PM
Big news for Strayan motorsport fans: Supercars champion Scott McLaughlin has announced that he’ll be a full time driver for Penske in IndyCar next year.

He’s already done some testing at Sebring and will be part of the team at the Indy 500 this year.

I hope it leads to us getting our race back on the Gold Coast. There was rumour of it coming back last year, and with a local boy behind the wheel McLaughlin Mania could be the driving force.

The359
February 19th, 2020, 07:50 PM
He's running the Indy GP this year, not the 500.

Rare White Ape
February 19th, 2020, 08:11 PM
Oooh a subtle detail that blew past me!

Yobbo NZ
February 19th, 2020, 10:03 PM
Just remember RWA, you can't claim him either.

Rare White Ape
February 20th, 2020, 03:34 AM
Fuck!

Another subtle detail.

Yobbo NZ
February 20th, 2020, 01:02 PM
It's bad enough the Australian media point out that Scott Dixon is a Brisbane born, New Zealand Indy Car driver.
That's like calling AC/DC a Scottish rock band that live in Australia.

Rare White Ape
February 20th, 2020, 05:18 PM
I guess the caveat is that McLaughlin lives on the Gold Coast, and to make things more confusing the news on the radio said “Gold Coast local” when reporting on it.

FaultyMario
April 18th, 2020, 07:58 PM
Bob, the father of Jacques and Buddy Lazier, dead at 81 from Covid.

FaultyMario
April 23rd, 2020, 09:29 AM
Entry list for the AutoNation IndyCar Challenge at 2:30 p.m. ET Saturday, April 25 at virtual Circuit of the Americas




1 Josef Newgarden Nashville, Tennessee PPG Team Penske Team Penske Chevrolet
2 Scott McLaughlin Christchurch, New Zealand Shell V-Power Team Penske Team Penske Dallara
4 Sebastien Bourdais Le Mans, France Tresiba A.J. Foyt Enterprises Chevrolet
5 Pato O'Ward Monterrey, Mexico Arrow McLaren SP Arrow McLaren SP Chevrolet
6 Robert Wickens Guelph, Canada Arrow McLaren SP Arrow McLaren SP Chevrolet
7 Oliver Askew Jupiter, Florida Arrow McLaren SP Arrow McLaren SP Chevrolet
8 Marcus Ericsson Kumla, Sweden Huski Chocolate Chip Ganassi Racing Chip Ganassi Racing Honda
9 Scott Dixon Auckland, New Zealand PNC Bank Chip Ganassi Racing Chip Ganassi Racing Honda
10 Felix Rosenqvist Värnamo, Sweden NTT DATA Chip Ganassi RacingChip Ganassi Racing Honda
11 Kyle Kaiser Santa Clara, California Juncos Racing Juncos Racing Chevrolet
12 Will Power Toowoomba, Australia Verizon Team Penske Team Penske Chevrolet
14 Tony Kanaan Salvador, Brazil Big Machine Records A.J. Foyt Enterprises Chevrolet
15 Graham Rahal New Albany, Ohio One Cure Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda
18 Santino Ferrucci Woodbury, Connecticut SealMaster Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan Honda
20 Conor Daly Noblesville, Indiana U.S. Air Force Ed Carpenter Racing Chevrolet
21 Rinus VeeKay Hoofddorp, Netherlands SONAX Ed Carpenter Racing Chevrolet
22 Simon Pagenaud Montmorillion, France Snap-on Team Penske Team Penske Chevrolet
24 Sage Karam Nazareth, Pennsylvania DRR WIX Filters Dreyer & Reinbold Racing Chevrolet
26 Zach Veach Stockdale, Ohio Gainbridge Andretti Autosport Honda
27 Alexander Rossi Nevada City, California AutoNation / NAPA AUTO PARTS Andretti Autosport Honda
28 Ryan Hunter-Reay Fort Lauderdale, FloridaDHLAndretti Autospor tHonda
29 James Hinchcliffe Toronto, Canada Genesys Andretti Autosport Honda
30 Takuma Sato Tokyo, Japan Panasonic / ABeam Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda
31 Felipe Nasr Brasilia, Brazil Carlin Carlin Chevrolet
41 Dalton Kellett Stouffville, Canada K-Line Insulators USAA.J. Foyt Enterprises Chevrolet
45 Spencer Pigot Orlando, Florida Mi-Jack / EMBRACE Pittsburgh RLL with Citrone/Buhl Autosport INDYCAR Provisional Honda
50 Ed Carpenter Indianapolis, Indiana Direct Supply Ed Carpenter Racing Chevrolet
55 Alex Palou Barcelona, Spain Dale Coyne Racing with Team GohDale Coyne Racing with Team Goh Honda
59 Max Chilton Reigate, England Gallagher Carlin Carlin Chevrolet
60 Jack Harvey Bassingham, England AutoNation / SiriusXM Meyer Shank Racing Honda
88 Colton Herta Belleair, Florida Capstone Andretti Harding Steinbrenner Autosport Honda
98 Chaz Mostert Melbourne, Australia U.S. Concrete / Curb Andretti Herta with Marco Andretti & Curb-Agajanian Dallara
04 Lando Norris Somerset, England Arrow McLaren SP INDYCAR Provisional Dallara



##

Kchrpm
April 26th, 2020, 12:56 PM
The road races have been fun to watch. Hopefully Indy goes well.

FaultyMario
April 26th, 2020, 01:35 PM
Is next weeks Indy 500 limited to 33 spots too?

Kchrpm
April 26th, 2020, 05:43 PM
Yes. Some of them are reserved to regular teams and other categories, and then there will be open slots that can be qualified for with the usual 4 lap qualifying format.

XHawkeye
May 8th, 2020, 04:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXhby0PWkAABv7J.jpg

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Just comment below and we'll choose the best question to give away a signed copy courtesy of @octanepress!! (https://twitter.com/champwebdotnet/status/1258804116563931138)

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FaultyMario
May 22nd, 2020, 09:53 AM
Legends Trophy featuring Mario and Fernando, JPM, HCN, Emmo, TK and others will be raced this Sunday (https://torqueesport.com/andretti-and-alonso-confirmed-for-legends-trophy-esports-battle-at-indianapolis-motor-speedway/), at virtual IMS on rF2.

FaultyMario
June 6th, 2020, 04:39 PM
Genesys 300 @ TMS now on!

FaultyMario
June 6th, 2020, 04:40 PM
Is it the first time they race the windscreen?

Kchrpm
June 6th, 2020, 07:37 PM
Yep!

FaultyMario
June 6th, 2020, 08:03 PM
It was a pretty meh race.

I have since learned that the ovals are not usually run with pit windows and that TMS has been 'modified'1 to favor NASCAR, anyone care to explain?




___________
1 Something about the high line, so that these cars are restricted in the number of available lines they have for the corners. Was the track surface cut a certain way?

The359
June 6th, 2020, 11:17 PM
From my understanding Firestone was not able to produce new tires for the track, so the cars were running Indy 500-spec left side tires and 2019-spec Texas tires on the right. With the additional factor of the wind screen changing the weight of the car, Firestone wanted to be conservative and mandate each team could not run more than 35 laps.

NASCAR added sealer to the surface which you saw as the dark black patch, which is also not very grippy.

FaultyMario
June 7th, 2020, 04:33 AM
Those both make sense, thanks Matt.

FaultyMario
June 19th, 2020, 09:36 AM
Alex Zanardi involved in crash with truck. Was training in his handbike. Was airlifted to hospital.

Can he get a break from serious injury?

Crazed_Insanity
June 19th, 2020, 09:48 AM
Aw man... the incident sounded really serious... big truck against a little hand bike like that... hope he'll be okay.

Blerpa
June 19th, 2020, 10:11 AM
They are operating him right now.
Very serious condition: the head wounds are terrible and he is hemorraging.
I hope not, but we could expect some dreadful news.

Blerpa
June 19th, 2020, 10:24 AM
From the words of the Technical Coach of the Italian paralympics bike team, Mario Valentini:

"There was a long straight, downhill, 4% degree, the bike flexed (highside?) and he collided with the semi on the front strut of the semi; the semi dodged by a meter on the side but Zanardi hit it anyway. It is not the semi's fault, Alex did make a mistake."

"We were going easy and slow downhill, it wasn't a big slope, and then there was the straight, he suddenly changed direction at the entrance of the bend.
He took a risky trajectory. He hit the front strut (the one truckers use to get up in the cockpit, sorry) of the truck with the left handpedal, did two or three 360s, the helmet couldn't stand the hit and got thrown away.
He hit the asphalt with the head without the helmet.

They had to move him since we were in the middle of the wood and the helicopter couldn't land in here.
As a professional biker he is done, his head has been hit, but he has seven spirits like cats, so let's hope he pulls alive from this"

(Sorry for the tentative translation, guys, I did it myself on the fly)

Crazed_Insanity
June 19th, 2020, 11:16 AM
Thanks for that blerpa!

Sounds really bad for Alex tho... sigh... :(

dodint
June 19th, 2020, 05:23 PM
If he makes it he needs to set himself down in a nice rocking chair and not move from it for 30 years.

Crazed_Insanity
June 20th, 2020, 01:09 PM
Looks like he’s following Schumacher’s trail to stay on a bed and not move for a while... :(

FaultyMario
June 20th, 2020, 02:24 PM
If by "stay on a bed and not move" you mean "smashing his cranium against something hard with excessive force" then yes, you are correct, they're both in the same club.

Kchrpm
July 4th, 2020, 02:22 PM
On Marshall Pruett's Indycar podcast, he sounded incredibly frustrated with the league and the drivers because of their lack of even attempted action towards inclusion. He said that he reached out to many drivers in an attempt to coordinate some kind of event, and has been suggesting the league have some kind diversity focused program, and got nothing but push-back and excuses. He said that he lost a lot of respect for the people he covers because of it.

Rare White Ape
July 4th, 2020, 11:37 PM
Wow. Hopefully it's something really benign like them simply trying to keep politics out of IndyCar rather than some active distaste for any inclusion programs.

Although it makes them look really shit if their contemporaries in deep-south NASCAR are showing them up and booting out the racists.

FaultyMario
August 20th, 2020, 07:25 AM
From the San Raffaele Hospital press release:


“After a period during which he was subjected to intensive care following hospitalisation on July 24 the patient responded with significant clinical improvements.

“For this reason, he is currently assisted and treated with semi-intensive care at the Neuroreanimation Unit, directed by Professor Luigi Beretta.”

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FaultyMario
August 23rd, 2020, 01:44 PM
Genuine question to the series regulars, why did it not end in a Red Flag?

Anyway, mature race by Sato, he put it where it should. Great races by the top 2 chevy guys, too. My pick for move of the day, however, goes to Colton Hero (https://twitter.com/jday19/status/1297635133470777344).

BTW, glad Pigot walked out of that wreck, that was a violent whack!

dodint
August 23rd, 2020, 03:13 PM
The time it would have taken to fix the wall would have been prohibitive. Keith also mentioned that the field was on low fuel with tires full of carbon shards. Just not a situation conducive to a red flag condition.

Interesting race, super lame result.

CudaMan
August 23rd, 2020, 05:25 PM
Man, my old teammate just can't catch a break at Indy. He has so much talent.

Happy for Sato. He went early, it seemed, and he defended earlier on than I would have expected. His bold strategy paid off today. It was cool to see a racer going for it in this era of winning by fuel/tyre saving.

I haven't followed IndyCar that closely in the last few years but I was surprised at how many very successful names were mired midfield or further back than that even.

Seemed like Honda had the advantage. I wonder if any of their F1 developments made their way to their IndyCar engine program.

The359
August 23rd, 2020, 10:23 PM
I believe the problem with the end of the race was multiple factors: There were technically 4 laps left, and having the field stopped then restarted would have required at least two warm-up laps. The damage to the wall was more than IMS expected and would have required a lengthy repair, and NBC was near the end of their planned air time because of the large number of cautions.

A lot of the Chevy teams were off the pace in qualifying, and a change of qualifying format in recent years meant that most everyone only got one shot, which is why Penske and many others were so down the field.

Any idea on what failed on Davison's car? I assume something got stuck in the caliper, or the pad itself fell off.

XHawkeye
August 24th, 2020, 05:04 AM
Takuma Sato has won 100% of Indy 500 races that Fernando Alonso has taken part in #Indy500 (https://twitter.com/TommyWTF1/status/1297649852977950721/photo/1)

Crazed_Insanity
August 24th, 2020, 09:12 AM
Honda and the Honda driver is really sticking it to his face...

If there was no financial crisis that spooked Honda out of F-1, I wonder if Honda could be where Mercedes is today... and it'd be Sato battling with teammate Hamilton for the championships...

Nah... :p

CudaMan
August 24th, 2020, 09:12 AM
It was a master cylinder problem, apparently.

Aside from any red flag discussion, I feel like the Indy 500 is one of those things that TV networks should really stay with if it runs a little long. It's one of the biggest sporting events of the year.

Crazed_Insanity
August 24th, 2020, 01:56 PM
In the age of high speed internet, is it really that big of a deal if the network can't continue to cover the race?

Any major network should also have some sort of live streaming app, right?

Or just add a time limit to the race? If the race ended up with so many freaking yellow and red flags... just shorten it to Indy380 if the clock runs out?

Kchrpm
August 24th, 2020, 06:12 PM
Pushing the Indy 500 race ending onto a streaming service is not going to happen in today's world. The outrage would be huge. This sport is still mostly followed by an older generation that is focused on tradition and would not want to try to figure out the NBC Sports app in 15-30 minutes (you have to log in with your cable provider info), and likely would have little chance of getting it to work on their TV in that amount of time.

The tendency of red-flagging races to do a green-white-checkered finish is a recent thing, plenty of races have finished under yellow over the years, and red-flagging causes all kinds of non-timing related issues. Many of the lead cars were already gambling on fuel, adding in the extra laps they would have had to run for red flag procedures would have probably left them empty. The wreck that caused the yellow happened in front of a number of cars and threw debris over the entire track, potentially leading to cut tires. Those tires would then have to sit for an indeterminate amount of time, getting cold, then get brought back up to temp, and not tested again until people went nuts on the restart at 230 mph. I get that we could have had an exciting finish, Dixon didn't think Sato had enough fuel to finish, but I think they did the right thing.

CudaMan
August 24th, 2020, 08:40 PM
Keith is right about tradition and the Indy 500. It's gotta be the race most unchanged in its traditions out of all of them. On that point, does anyone think they'd change it from a 500-mile distance race to a timed event after 104 years? :)

Another thing: NBC Sports streaming required not only a cable subscription, but a sports package on top. Generational or not, it's just so much easier to turn on the TV and tune in over the air.

Rare White Ape
August 24th, 2020, 10:05 PM
Does the 500 not have a 75% distance clause that could be enacted, for example if it’s rained out late in the proceedings?

Kchrpm
August 25th, 2020, 03:04 AM
Yes, the race has been shortened due to rain before: https://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/events/indy500/history/rain-delays

Crazed_Insanity
August 25th, 2020, 06:15 AM
Here's another break from tradition, has there ever been an Indy500 race with empty grandstands?

Kchrpm
August 25th, 2020, 06:18 AM
And there hasn't been one in August, but it was either that or not run the race at all.

The359
August 25th, 2020, 07:14 AM
Does the 500 not have a 75% distance clause that could be enacted, for example if it’s rained out late in the proceedings?

It is an official race at Lap 101, so it can be rained out and ended any point after that. Before Lap 101, they resume running later or the next day.

Crazed_Insanity
August 25th, 2020, 08:15 AM
Anyway, suffice to say that traditions are meant to be broken... or we could always invent a new tradition! :p

However, I have to say that Emerson chose OJ rather than Milk after winning in 1993 was the distasteful break EVER!

FaultyMario
September 9th, 2020, 07:10 AM
Jimmie Johnson signed for 21 & 22 with Ganassi.

Whoa!

FaultyMario
October 13th, 2020, 09:17 AM
Now that AMSP has released Oliver Askew from their team, has it been cleared what his medical issues are? Wasn't just a big whack in the 500 that left him with a concussion.

Yobbo NZ
October 23rd, 2020, 06:09 PM
Another kiwi incoming for the Indy series.
V8 Supercar champion, Scott McLaughlin has signed full time for Team Penske to race the series.
Should be good.

FaultyMario
October 23rd, 2020, 06:54 PM
I wish Rogro would migrate. he'd be entertaining in a Kenny Brack sort of way.

dodint
October 23rd, 2020, 07:09 PM
No.

FaultyMario
October 24th, 2020, 07:54 AM
You say it like multiple car pileups on lap one are no fun.

dodint
October 24th, 2020, 01:51 PM
IndyCar already has that. I just don't need another generation of Bourdais if I can help it.

Godson
October 25th, 2020, 07:59 AM
Who are you kidding. Rogro will take himself out....on the pace lap.

Rare White Ape
October 25th, 2020, 11:33 AM
I tuned in at 05:30 to watch the race and the first time I see McLaughlin is on a restart and he has another car on top of his.

Fuck’s sake :lol:

FaultyMario
January 6th, 2021, 02:31 PM
Pat Patrick has died.

FaultyMario
January 13th, 2021, 01:09 PM
Romain Grosjean, set to be announced with Dale Coyne Racing in the coming days.

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Rare White Ape
February 1st, 2021, 12:28 AM
Here are a couple of very, very good videos detailing The Split in mid-90s, a topic that gets right up my goat. Part 1 and 2 are below, while parts 3 and 4 are set for release over the coming months. Essential viewing for fans of the sport.

Make yourself a nice cuppa coffee (or in my case, a very stiff drink), pull up a comfy chair, and enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud0oRbDzoYc&t=0s&ab_channel=nascarmanHistory


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnT2NaFUy1I&t=764s&ab_channel=nascarmanHistory

Kchrpm
February 1st, 2021, 04:59 AM
I'd rather not relive it again, honestly.

The359
February 1st, 2021, 07:40 AM
I saw mentiom during the Rolex that Cody Ware is going to drive for his dad's team. I expect him to be in the way a lot, if they even manage to show up.

Rare White Ape
February 1st, 2021, 12:06 PM
I'd rather not relive it again, honestly.

Fair enough!

To make things even worse, part of the main argument from Tony George was that there wasn’t enough ovals and talented drivers from dirt track midget and sprint car series were locked out from competing.

Look at the IndyCar Series now! It’s owned by Penske and it’s mostly lefty-righty tracks :p

They’re back to square 1, but have lost all of those good years of strength over petty squabbles by a boring young man named Tony George.

Crazed_Insanity
February 1st, 2021, 04:38 PM
Yep, thanks to that guy, I’ve lost interest in the series...

Indycar peaked back when Nigel Mansell won his championship... and I don’t think they have recovered since.

Hope Penske will someday MIGA! (make Indycars great again!)

FaultyMario
February 23rd, 2021, 12:34 PM
IndyCar already has that. I just don't need another generation of Bourdais if I can help it.

Sorry, big guy.

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/racefansdotnet-21-02-23-11-08-48-20.jpg

dodint
February 24th, 2021, 07:20 PM
Sad. It always amazes me how shallow the talent pool is in IndyCar.

Kchrpm
February 25th, 2021, 03:42 AM
Everyone is desperate for drivers that bring big money or big attention because the sport itself can't do it.

Crazed_Insanity
February 25th, 2021, 08:34 AM
Wait, so all of these ex-F1 drivers are driving Indycars without actually pay? They all come with sponsorship deals? Teams are actually making money by hiring them?

I always thought Indy team owners hire them because they have "proven track record" so they don't need to take risks with younger unknown drivers...

Anyway, whatever the reasons, I guess we're unlikely to see more American drivers? Let alone seeing one competing in F-1 anytime soon?

Kchrpm
February 26th, 2021, 04:31 AM
F1 drivers have personal sponsors and large appeal to new sponsors because of their international reach, so they can bring money and attract money.

Rare White Ape
February 27th, 2021, 06:50 PM
I know that this series may be hard to watch for some people, but... you have to. This is essential viewing.

That it's this powerful shows just how massive the sport was in the 90s.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-HW0zsGSI&t=1s&ab_channel=nascarmanHistory

FaultyMario
February 27th, 2021, 07:08 PM
Sorry, Mick. I had to stop it the moment Tony's face showed up.

Rare White Ape
March 31st, 2021, 04:18 PM
The conclusion to an amazing series. Please watch. Yes I am shoving it down your throats :p


https://youtu.be/fiBk56owznQ

FaultyMario
March 31st, 2021, 04:27 PM
Imma let you finish, but the Panoz DP01 is one of the prettiest race cars of all time, OF ALL TIME!

FaultyMario
March 31st, 2021, 04:31 PM
And the Dallara IR-05 one of the fugliest.

Rare White Ape
March 31st, 2021, 06:27 PM
It’s nice but I much prefer the late-90s Champ Car styling. Most of that opinion is unchecked bias!

FaultyMario
April 7th, 2021, 08:21 AM
The past is nice, but I much prefer the future. Most of that opinion is unchecked bias based on the following promotional video!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWxvI4NMjI0

Rare White Ape
April 7th, 2021, 12:37 PM
If it weren’t for our own memories, the future would be the only thing we have.

JoeW
May 15th, 2021, 11:32 AM
Check out Grosjean with the pole and leading the race right now :)

JoeW
May 15th, 2021, 11:50 AM
Not anymore. The windshields look ridiculous btw.

Crazed_Insanity
May 16th, 2021, 10:21 AM
Winner or not, I do believe most ex F1 drivers are pretty good… and should do reasonably well in series like Indy.

Well, except for somebody whose named spinning mucho mas! :p

FaultyMario
May 31st, 2021, 05:36 AM
I think there was a race on this weekend.

It should have been good.

Kchrpm
May 31st, 2021, 08:22 AM
Helio pulled it off in convincing fashion, was impressive.

FaultyMario
May 31st, 2021, 09:19 AM
I watched the first, and the last 2 stints.

It was the nail biter. Helio was a tiger.

Crazed_Insanity
May 31st, 2021, 09:21 AM
Joining the prestigious 4 wins club.

His 1st was back in 2001!?!?!?

What a long career! I don’t think any of the other 4 time winners has such long careers… or at least their wins didn’t span such a long periods…

Wonder if Helio could make it 5 before retiring…

FaultyMario
May 31st, 2021, 09:27 AM
Wonder if Helio could make it 5 before retiring…

Who knows, Taku was older than him when he won last year, and Al senior was in his late forties when he last won.

Kchrpm
May 31st, 2021, 09:46 AM
I watched the whole race from the patio with Hooters with no audio. Had to use Twitter to get the info I was missing from the commentary, but overall was a good experience, would recommend.

I enjoyed seeing the different strategies play out at the end, but also the people that benefited or got screwed by the random actions and luck.