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drew
November 17th, 2016, 09:18 AM
http://www.kcci.com/article/man-arrested-for-driving-208-mph-on-oklahoma-turnpike/8297368

Wasn't aware a Mustang could do 200mph.


You learn something every day.

neanderthal
November 17th, 2016, 10:26 AM
Dude.
You haven't seen all the Cars and Coffee incidents? It's clear the Mustang can go 200mph. They just can't get them out of the parking lot in a straight line. :D

novicius
November 17th, 2016, 10:59 AM
He... stopped at red light after going 208?? :erm:

(Well he was a Mustang driver... :lol: )

tigeraid
November 17th, 2016, 11:00 AM
There's no standing crowds on the freeway.

As science tells us, 1 Accelerating Mustang + 0 human bodies = (symbol for infinite speed.)

thesameguy
November 17th, 2016, 12:13 PM
I'm skeptical of this, because a) you're not going 200mph for long on a 20 gallon tank, and b) if you're going 200mph how the fuck is the cop going to catch up to you? I suspect a radar gun seriously out of calibration, or with a margin of error so great it becomes significant at high speeds.

speedpimp
November 17th, 2016, 01:08 PM
How much horsepower would be required to sustain 200 mph in a Stang?

drew
November 17th, 2016, 01:25 PM
I'm skeptical of this, because a) you're not going 200mph for long on a 20 gallon tank, and b) if you're going 200mph how the fuck is the cop going to catch up to you? I suspect a radar gun seriously out of calibration, or with a margin of error so great it becomes significant at high speeds.


That was my first couple of thoughts as well. If anything, maybe he can fight it with the "check it's calibration" defense.


Maybe the cop had a Mustang too.

Like that Prius ad.

novicius
November 17th, 2016, 01:58 PM
How much horsepower would be required to sustain 200 mph in a Stang?
Flat-Out! We Gun for 200 mph in the 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500. (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/flat-out-we-gun-for-200-mph-in-the-2013-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-feature)

That's with 662 HP, so yeah with ~700 horsepower & a T-56 it should be doable.

thesameguy
November 17th, 2016, 02:40 PM
I remember that - I also remember this:

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/2013-ford-shelby-gt500-first-test/


On a road course, the monster V-8 will suck the tank dry in just over twenty minutes

and this:

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/shelby-gt500/2013/gunning-for-200-mph-in-the-2013-ford-shelby-gt500/


A rep tells us the Shelby needs about 17,000 feet of tarmac to hit top speed

novicius
November 17th, 2016, 03:20 PM
Well I mean the SN95's are more aerodynamic than the S197's and if you want 1,000 HP, you can get there pretty cheaply (http://www.on3performance.com/shop/1996-04-mustang-cobra-4v-twin-turbo-system/).

So yeah, you want to hit 200+ MPH in a Mustang for under $20K in mods (not including the price of the car obviously), it's certainly possible.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz9VIfuNM-Q

MR2 Fan
November 18th, 2016, 12:50 PM
FWIW, a relatively mildly modified 1991 MR2 Turbo went 218 mph at the salt flats (mirrors and wipers were removed and no internal changes to the engine allowed IIRC).

Edited to clarify, apparently camshafts were allowed to be changed:

""The Aase Brothers stunned the land speed record fraternity by capturing
a world record their first time on the Bonneville Salt Flats. At the
SCTA World Finals October 16-18, Dennis Aase drove the Aase Brothers
prepared MR2 turbo to a class average speed record of 211.071 MPH. But
that wasn't his top speed. World records are based on the average of two
runs. Dennis posted a 203 MPH on his first pass, and an incredible
218 MPH plus on his second! The average, 211.071 MPH, is the new class
record in the 2.0 liter Production Turbocharged GT class. In fact, the
Aase Brothers' MR2 is the first 2.0 liter turbocharged production car
to crack the 200 MPH barrier at Bonneville. This Is the same MR2 that
won four Firestone Firehawk Endurance Championship races in 1991 in
the hands of P.J. Jones and Chip Hanauer. The only modifications allowed
at Bonneville, in addition to safety equipment, are changes to the
intake and exhaust system and the canshafts. The body must remain
stock, although the windshield wipers and door mirrors can be removed.""



http://www.mr2oc.com/61-3sgte-turbo/467708-218-mph-mr2-sale-so-cal-~$18-000-only-2811-miles.html


What I find friggin awesome about this is that this was around the same year that Jaguar was trying to stun the world with their promised XJ-220 supercar to reach 220mph but never did.

thesameguy
November 18th, 2016, 01:47 PM
You can't go 200mph on 200hp. At least not in a car.

MR2 Fan
November 18th, 2016, 02:16 PM
You can't go 200mph on 200hp. At least not in a car.

It was modded but I don't know how much total HP they were making

thesameguy
November 18th, 2016, 02:18 PM
About 500.

Phil_SS
November 18th, 2016, 02:43 PM
I don't believe this for one second.

thesameguy
November 18th, 2016, 02:49 PM
Eh?

balki
November 21st, 2016, 10:00 AM
McLaren F1 : 230-240mph with 580-620 hp and a drag coefficient of 0.32

thesameguy
November 21st, 2016, 10:13 AM
The Aase MR2 had 487hp. That's facts.

novicius
November 21st, 2016, 10:31 AM
I thought I read an article recently that identified the car as a 2013 Mustang of some variant? Makes me think that the cop's radar gun got broke by a car doing 160. :lol:

A stock '13 S197 is electronically limited to 145 MPH. Obviously reflashed so assume a tune on a modded Coyote V8 -- but again, the aerodynamics on an S197 are fairly shite compared to the SN95 New Edge Mustangs ( :rawk: ).

That said, Coyotes can reliably make over 700+ daily-driven boosted horsepower (http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/threads/the-how-much-horsepower-can-a-coyote-handle-thread.866711/#post-12034817) so make of that what you will.

thesameguy
November 21st, 2016, 10:45 AM
I read somewhere the '12-'14 cars have a .34 cd, which is not far off from a lot of hi-po cars - the Ferrari 360 and F430 both are .34. I mean, the 200mph 500hp MR2 has a [stock] cd of .31. Unlike those cars, the Mustang has a big frontal area to overcome, but as you point out the GT500 broke 200mph on less than 700hp and that is totally attainable on a daily driven Coyote.

I think 200mph DIY Mustang is totally achievable, but there are so many considerations in getting there, I agree it's at least as likely the radar was inaccurate or used improperly. How many times in your life do you have to clock that?

Edit: FWIW, the '12+ cars aren't that bad. They have a lower cd than the New Edge (.34 vs. .36) and a slightly increased frontal area (24.2 vs. 22.5). I guess the Mustang you really want is the '94/'95 SN95, at .31 and 22.5 - if you're talking solely aero.

novicius
November 21st, 2016, 10:54 AM
Well it's not what I want -- I want as much power as 11:1 compression pistons + aluminum heads + stroked 5.0L of displacement on the sexy cocktail of 91-octane pump gas and oxygen @ 850' above sea level will give me. :D

thesameguy
November 21st, 2016, 10:57 AM
Sooo.... no aero? :lol:

I still have my someday heart set on a '12-'14 5.0 - I really want an LS edition but the paint scheme kills me. It's atrocious. Wonder how expensive it would be to replicate or exceed LS parts on a regular GT?

novicius
November 21st, 2016, 11:04 AM
A fresh coat of paint is all the aero I want at this point. #snark

Good luck on getting the Laguna Seca. You'd probably have to sell your house at this point -- waaay cheaper to build a replica.

MR2 Fan
November 21st, 2016, 11:27 AM
The Aase MR2 had 487hp. That's facts.

That's cool, for some reason I never found that info before. Is it a lot for a DIY on the 3S-GTE engine? yes but people have done it....turbo lag is probably horrid though :p

thesameguy
November 21st, 2016, 11:39 AM
When all you need to do is go fast in a straight line once, a lot of the difficulties of tuning a road engine go out the window. Engine responsiveness, lag, heat management, and even durability aren't much of a concern. It's not *all* that had to make a motor make 500hp for a minute or three. A guy I know does Bonneville in a c900 (actually has about a dozen records!) and he runs a 400hp c900 good for 170mph - it's very good at once it does, but probably wouldn't be much fun at a track day, if it could even survive one. ;)