Nostalgia.

[2ndMoparMan]

Came across this video the other night and I think it's a rather neat way to see how GT has progressed over the years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYVEEPWp9n0

There is also this, if you really want a nostalgia trip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYo-vqlD1M&t=776s

What suprized me the most I think is how well GT4 has acually held up. While yes, the game does look dated now, for it's age it still looks pretty damn good.

[dodint]

I've seen the second one before, very cool. Obligatory DMC sighting as well.

[The359]

Funny, both of those were in my recommended feed on YouTube as well. I did also watch the one on Grand Valley Speedway through the years, that track has changed quite a bit.

[Tom Servo]

Wow, how do I not remember that horrible Cardigans remix for the GT2 intro?

[Rare White Ape]

First one is still the best. I liked Manic Street Preachers back in the day, and that song is quite Anthemic.

I think the US and EU intros are very inferior to the JP intros, especially the GT4 one.

[2ndMoparMan]

You didn't, Servo. I think that was the EU intro, because I remember the original GT2 intro was the normal Cardigans song.

[Tom Servo]

*phew*

[MR2 Fan]

yeah, I noticed that too, thinking it didn't sound right...then found out it wasn't the same for every market.

I remember the bad QA in GT2, the "Palm Strip" dragstrip that was labeled but never included, and of course, the Camero (yes,Camaro) or whatever the car was under the cover on GT1 (probably just a Skyline)

[dodint]

What was the code for the milk truck again?

[SkylineObsession]

X, X, O, X, triangle, triangle, L1, L2, L1, L2, O, square, X, then you plug your controller into port two, pause the game, switch off the power at the mains, stick a knife in the toaster and plug it it, turn the mains on again and watch the fireworks, after that's done and the smoldering remains of your house are safe enough to enter, you should have unlocked the milk truck.

Usually takes one or two tries.

[SportWagon]

I remember the bad QA in GT2, the "Palm Strip" dragstrip that was labeled but never included, and of course, the Camero (yes,Camaro) or whatever the car was under the cover on GT1 (probably just a Skyline)

"Plam Strip"

[2ndMoparMan]

And more nostalgia. Been watching this guy's vids a lot lately where he does various sim racing challenges, but he's also been streaming GT1 lately. Here's a vod of him trying to all gold the liscence tests. And yes, he got stuck HARD on the RX-7 test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi3zweVorUk

[SportWagon]

On last Sunday afternoon (April 14, 2019) I decided to try and get my PS1(PSX) and silver slim PS2 running again. I hadn't played them in a long time, probably years, and I was in a somewhat depressed state and thought playing might help. I couldn't figure out how I had the video hooked into my collection of equipment. Time was running short, so I left (minimally late) to meet my wife.

So I got up in the very early morning to try again. The failure had added to a general state of depression. Eventually I recalled the video output from both consoles (RCA) was going through an old VCR which was acting as an RCA video switchbox and that usually they would be hooked into an RCA input on my HDD. But I could see the cables not attached. Took a little while to determine how to power on the VCR (i.e. figure out which power cord was its), but I got both PS1 and PS2 to work!

PS1 had GT1 with my January 2014 15th anniversary game. I played a bit of simulation mode. First I successfully did all 8 B license tests, taking a few tries to bronze each. Then I took a blue prize Civic(Racer), stock, and managed to win the Sunday Cup badly (6th in the first race). (I am, at my best, a somewhat mediocre player). I did not diary record my results, nor save the game back to the card.

PS2 had my only GT4 game. Unfortunately the car was the black Mazda 787B, so racing wasn't practical. I couldn't even overpower a Sunday Cup event because the game switched me to unuseable normal tires. And I didn't want to switch cars and thereby write to the memory card.

I decided to try a license test, so looked for one I had golded. It was I think a yellow MR2 at High Speed Ring esses. I managed to pass (bronze) the first try I stayed on track, and thought that the standard was a lot more forgiving than in GT1. So I turned off that console too, without writing to the memory card, I think.
Actually, researching, I think the license test was A-2, Lotus Elise 111R '04 at the High Speed Ring esses.

And then I went back to sleep for a little while longer.

[SkylineObsession]

GT1 definitely has more difficult handling than the rest of the GT games.

I never started with GT1, even though i helped my neighbour pass a few races with it i ended up buying GT2 first. I bought GT1 years later around the time GT4 or so was out, and tried playing it but completely sucked at it!

GT2 is still my most favoured GT game ever, music/car/track etc selection was and is still really awesome. I've still got all the GT games, and the devices to play them on (purposely kept an old CRT TV to play them on).

[dodint]

Same, my cousins had GT1. I bought GT2 at launch. I remember picking it up on the way to work and reading the little jewel case books that came with it during my lunch break.

[JoeW]

Oh man I loved that Cardigan song. And I particularly loved the Van Halen intro to GT4.

[Rare White Ape]

That intro was trash in comparison to the original Japanese version. It had the same visuals but they were set to the Japanese music, and it fit much better.

Watch!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV8m37_2Y6w

(the extended music track is a bit of a face melter: https://youtu.be/_BDasfJ9dk8?t=241)

(as is the GT5 version: https://youtu.be/nmcuZ1A8eso?t=263)

[dodint]

Yeah, no.

[Yw-slayer]

Yeah, no.

Don't you mean "Yeah nah"?

With that said, I prefer the Japanese version. But both are great.

[JoeW]

Bleh....give me Van Halen over that shit any day.

[Rare White Ape]

:)


https://youtu.be/T_WJIq8vCUE

[2ndMoparMan]

Yeah saw that a couple days ago. Kinda cool that they used Kojima for one of the crowd models.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXdkdwrUYAEt8ur.jpg

Today's the day #GranTurismo first released in Australia on PS one... 22 years ago! How awesome are these screenshots?! Happy 22nd bday, GT (https://twitter.com/PlayStationAU/status/1258586478667395074)

[balki]

From our GT4 days (I should have more, but can't find them):
3644
3645

[Godson]

That is one of my favorite series I ever completed.

I was massively uncompetitive.

[SportWagon]

It can be amusing to buy a used PS2 memory card, and then find on it a snippet of someone's life. I'd decided to use GT3 in a fat PS2 sitting underneath a slim one with GT4, so I could use the GT3 memory-card manager ("file operation").

I was surprised the card I bought to use as "scratch" while I go GT4 Cougar-hunting actually had a GT3 game save on it.day 364 Cr180,946 Viper GTS

Complete: 21.7%
Prize Total 1,712,000
318 wins / 318 races = 100%
License: IA 9G 3S 27B (No S done; 7/8 Rally done)
Cars Owned: 6
Total Mileage: 3287.0 miles
Total Car Value: 2,099,950
Bonus Cars Acquired: 19
Trophies Acquired: 326

Garage:
Mini Cooper 1.3i
RUF CTR2
Vertigo Race Car
New Beetle RSI
Zonda C12S
Viper GTS (current)Other games on the card wereNFS MW, PAC-MAN WORLD 2, NFS Undercover, TRANSFORMERS: THE GAME,
SanDandreas, NHL 2005, 007: NightFire, NFSU 2, ACE COMBAT ZERO,
NFS Carbon, MOH Rising Sun, Pac-Man Fever, SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALS,
Tetris Worlds, KINGDOMHEARTS/01, GTA ViceCity, GTA3Leaving 2,099KB Free, which means I can leave them all beside
a GT4 save.

GT3 was dated 13/06/2003. The most recent was NFS MW 04/09/2013

Thanks, Greg.

GT3 File Operation Versus PS2 Memory Card Manager
PROs:
- GT3 loads much faster (renders icons faster, and works before all are shown)
- GT3 shows both create and update date; sometimes significant

CONs:
- GT3 shows only date portions, not including the time-of-day

Sometime I should see if I can remember/relearn how to use my
Action Replay.

[Rare White Ape]

https://youtu.be/THAYpCExp6M

[SportWagon]

Sometime in the first decade of this century, when they were current products, I bought a pair of Logitech Driving Force Pro wheel controllers. I tried them briefly with GT4, but decided they were not for me. So one stayed attached to a wooden coffee table in a corner of the basment, while the other remained in its box.

So as part of decluttering, I thought I should take them to a nearby used game place and perhaps get money for them or probably trade them for things I can use more. But having been unused for so many years, I decided I should verify that they work correctly, even if I can't master them.Years ago I recall trying to learn them by driving very slow cars; I remember the Citroen 2CV races. But I sort of think that wasn't a good way to do it. The combination of not learning them, and the awkwardness of bringing table and wheel (and, actually, especially pedal unit) to the living room caused me to abandon them.

So this time I've been trying (GT4) license tests, including guide laps. Now, I'm a rather bad player so even with dual shock gold is usually unattainable for me, and silver often takes a very long time.

And the tests do seem a little bit harder because I am unfamiliar with the wheel. I think the dual shock control interpretation is sometimes very forgiving, when interacting with the physics model. This makes it harder to "feel" things with the wheel, especially initially.

The only thing which seems immediately perhaps more natural is dirt driving.I probably could get used to the wheels, actually, but they take up a lot more space than a dual shock does, tending to commit an area to game playing rather than allowing the game to be played occasionally, e.g. at my computer desk. So I will probably go through with it and get rid of the wheels after my evaluation.

Along the way, I have determined I am not an automobile enthusiast, because I think the sequential shifter should push away for an upshift, and pull back for a downshift.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/39285/why-backwards-sequential-shifters-make-more-sense-to-more-people

I have the same problem with the paddle shifters; I feel left should shift up, and right shift down. But I find that a little easier to learn consciously. And so I'll probably never use the sequential lever again. And the right upshift paddle seems to be even more of a standard for that in real life, so... Well, I guess I should consciously test that both sequential levers are working.

(When using a dual shock I always, when I can, map shift up to R1 and shift down to R2).

[Rare White Ape]

I’ve never heard of anyone in my life mapping up/down shift to R1/R2. I can see why it might work though: I imagine you use the face buttons for accel/brake like the classic layout, and that frees up your left index finger for the mirror at all times, which I imagine is mapped to L1.

With paddle shifters, logically up would be on the right because that’s the side the throttle is on, and down would be on the left because that’s the side the brake is on. In modern racing cars with DRS or fuel boost (examples are F1, IndyCar, and Super Formula) you map the boost button to somewhere on the left of the wheel because you’ll be using your right hand to change gears and you don’t want the two actions to interfere.

And I’ve always been puzzled by the reversal of the up/down direction for sequential stick shifters. On automatic gearboxes the higher gears are at the bottom of the gate, but with the fake sequential shift modes attached to the side of the normal auto gearbox selector, even there they are backwards.

I grew up watching BTCC so in my head changing up has always been a pull of the lever.

[Tom Servo]

I was figuring that or maybe using the right stick for throttle. It feels much easier for me to regulate throttle and brake with the triggers, so I'm always square for downshift and O for upshift (or whatever the equivalent is for non Playstation controllers).

And yeah, the Skip Barber cars I drove also were pull back for upshift, push forward for downshift. I've only really ever driven one car with one of those automatic fake sequential things on the stick, and it went side to side rather than forward and back (and followed the same left for down, right for up thing).

[Yobbo NZ]

Pushing the shift lever forward to change down makes sense when you brake and forces push you forward.
Imagine trying to do that in reverse while braking hard for a hairpin 🤯

[SportWagon]

I actually map E-brake to L1 and mirror to L2. But i use the right stick for acceleration/braking. With the Logitech I am doing left-foot braking. And I just realized that increases the tendency of the pedal unit to be moved by my feet. Doing only license tests I have not driven continuously for very long yet.

[Tom Servo]

I kept feeling like when I used the right stick for gas and brake that I'd subconsciously go left or right on it when turning and figured that was, just due to the nature of a circular range, limiting my gas/brake when I'd do that. You ever run into that?

[HondaKid86]

25 years with you beautiful bastards.

[2ndMoparMan]

25 years with you beautiful bastards.

Fuck we're old.

[SportWagon]

I kept feeling like when I used the right stick for gas and brake that I'd subconsciously go left or right on it when turning and figured that was, just due to the nature of a circular range, limiting my gas/brake when I'd do that. You ever run into that?Actually I never try to steer with the right stick. But I really don't play any other video games, so my use of the controller isn't so generalized. (For instance; I use one finger for my R1/R2 shifting, moving it. Do more general gamers usually use both fingers, one on each button?).

Using the right stick prevents left foot braking (using the gas and brake at the same time as a technique). But it also prevents accidentally dragging the brake when you intend to accelerate.

I discovered I was looking at the wrong configuration for my wheel, and the shift knob can actually be reversed if you want. But I'm pretty used to the paddle shifters now. And I'm sort of glad I learned about real life standards instead.

Interestingly, you can map the knob as two general buttons without affecting the paddles (that is the paddles are always for shifting), so I think about mapping the knob to cursor movement, or look back or something. Actually it might make a good reverse. Or handbrake.

[Dicknose]

Fuck we're old.

Specially when some of us were in our 30s when the original GT dropped

[SportWagon]

So as part of decluttering, I thought I should take them to a nearby used game place and perhaps get money for them or probably trade them for things I can use more. But having been unused for so many years, I decided I should verify that they work correctly, even if I can't master them.It should have been obvious really...

I was relatively affluent, bought a pair of brand-new wheels to see if I liked them, but never used them much. So I put them away and mostly forgot about them for years.

The thing is, you can imagine that being a not uncommon story.

So when I did get around to asking about them at the used game place, he told me flat out they no longer handle driving wheels at all, because they don't sell. People who want wheels do like me, and look for and buy a new one. He said the store had to give away their former stock (I'm guessing as an incentive bonus with other products).

I bought a couple of new PS2 compatible memory cards. I had been thinking I might be able to pick up a couple of used ones. But at about twenty years old, original ones which were used a lot might be reaching their end-of-life anyway. So now I can start a gt4-w1 game.

Though in my Playstation career, the only cards I have seen develop errors were third-party ones for the PS1. Less than two years after getting them, I believe.