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racerfink
June 29th, 2018, 05:43 AM
... by some little company in Germany.

https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug

Godson
June 29th, 2018, 06:29 AM
Yeah. Like. I'm scared. Someone hold me.

dodint
June 29th, 2018, 06:37 AM
As I said, a bigger accomplishment than Toyota at Le Mans, honestly.

Cam
June 29th, 2018, 12:19 PM
I am awestruck. That is SO fast. :eek: :eek: :eek: Other-worldly.

Rare White Ape
June 29th, 2018, 01:14 PM
Gee racing sims are looking good these days. Next, they should try it for reals.

XHawkeye
June 29th, 2018, 02:19 PM
https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/sports-cars/updated-bernhard-breaks-bellofs-n-rburgring-record-919

XHawkeye
June 29th, 2018, 02:24 PM
So, approach to Schwedenkreuz was 344kmh [213.7], took crest at 322 [200] ... VMAX on Dottinger was 369kmh [229.2], lap average 233.9kmh [145.3]. Holy. Fuck. #919tribute (https://twitter.com/DickieMeaden/status/1012613183763304448)

http://www.nordschleife-erfahren.de/wp-content/uploads/streckenbeschreibung/ideallinie-schwedenkreuz-aremberg.jpg

XHawkeye
June 29th, 2018, 02:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg2OHROX4AANZ8J.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg2fdwTXcAAnNny.jpg

XHawkeye
June 29th, 2018, 02:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg2hgyGX0AAKBEP.jpg

Having experienced the lap today I have an even higher respect for Stefan Bellof and what he achieved on the @nuerburgring Nordschleife 35years ago. (https://twitter.com/Timo_Bernhard/status/1012643082507030530)

XHawkeye
June 29th, 2018, 02:33 PM
Little rain shower on the parade.

I'm not trying to take anything away from the 919, they did an amazing thing. But you have to admit that what Porsche did today can't be compared to a lap in racing conditions. What's your *real* Nürburg lap record? 6m25s? 6m11s? Or 5m19s? (https://twitter.com/bridge2gantry/status/1012630157721587712)


You can’t deny it. After years of officially abstaining from Nürburgring Nordschleife lap record banter, Porsche are absolutely owning it.

Fastest production road car? Check. The GT2RS lap with Lars Kern at the helm absolutely nailed it.

Fastest race car lap? Well the boys and girls from Weissach already own the race lap record, and have done for the last 35 years. It’s 6m25.91s, set by Stefan Bellof during the 1983 1000km of Nürburgring, the only year that these cars ran on ‘our’ 12.9 mile modern configuration. He crashed, uninjured, on the very next lap at Pflanzgarten 3 (which we now call Bellof Esses).

And in qualifying he pushed his Porsche 956 Group C machine around in an astonishing 6m11.13s. The outright fastest lap anybody can ever claim to have done…

Until today.

Because today Timo Bernhard, under controlled conditions, drove a special version of the famous Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1 car around the 12.9 mile Nürburgring Nordschleife four times. The fourth lap was completed in 5m19.55s.

It started with a 6m38.57s at 8am on the dot… this sighting lap being completed on part-worn tyres. The next warm-up lap looked a bit quicker from my viewpoint at Hohe Acht. Later persual of Porsche twitter accounts confirmed Timo’s lap at 5m31.899s.

Lap 3? 5m24.36. But that wasn’t enough.

Lap 4 arrived, and as I stood at Wipperman, watching the skid plates of the carbon-fibre monocoque machine scuff the surface under compression, I knew in my heart that this was going be even faster, and, sadly, fastest. As in, they won’t send him out again.

Because this was enough. Bellof’s achievement in 1983, in race conditions, with no ABS, with a manual gearbox and no real computers, was over a minute slower. Porsche, the corporate identity, the global marketing machine, had destroyed their own record. Job done.

And that’s why, as amazing as the 5m19s laptime might be, it’s also a little bit hollow. It’s a trophy made of tin foil. There’s very little blood, sweat or tears to be found here, just a hell of a lot of flown-in journalists, social media ‘influencers’, and various other hangers-on.

If there was a 1000km race here again, with Audi, Toyota, Porsche all fighting with their own incredible LMP1s, then we’d get a real lap record. A racing record.

This was, unfortunately, just a demonstration run. A glorious, wonderful, technically astounding and emotionally draining lap. But, cyncially, you could say it’s just fodder for the social media machine, and that it’s not the real stuff of legends.

That’s just my opinion… but what’s yours?

JoeW
June 29th, 2018, 02:35 PM
Beat it by almost a minute. They say they opened up the 919 to an unrestricted 1100hp and lightened it even further. Just ridiculous.

Godson
June 29th, 2018, 03:00 PM
The whole 'is not a race lap time' comment is stupid.

The rules are nothing like what they were, and never will because. Stop pining for what once was and embrace what IS.


It IS fucking amazing.

JoeW
June 29th, 2018, 04:06 PM
You just dropped a truth bomb....


https://youtu.be/lEDy0SAQALc

2ndMoparMan
June 29th, 2018, 06:22 PM
That lap is just mind bendingly fast.

dodint
June 29th, 2018, 07:17 PM
I would have bet 100 of 100 times Xhawkeye's post was written by Ang before I looked.

Yobbo NZ
June 29th, 2018, 08:16 PM
Not bad for a 2 litre hybrid eh.

Yw-slayer
June 30th, 2018, 08:43 AM
My opinion is that Isle of Man lap record FTW.

JoeW
June 30th, 2018, 01:48 PM
How much air can a 919 Evo Hybrid get at Isle of Man?

Godson
June 30th, 2018, 04:45 PM
I'd say we need measurements of the Drs open and closed.

Freude am Fahren
June 30th, 2018, 08:25 PM
I'm not even sure the 919 could even creep over the bridge at Ballaugh.

Rare White Ape
June 30th, 2018, 10:26 PM
It might do what this Subaru did (skip to 10:00)

https://youtu.be/DRg5Sp1iQMc

Rare White Ape
July 26th, 2018, 03:23 PM
https://youtu.be/hb70tY6edak