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SkylineObsession
July 20th, 2018, 02:45 PM
Had this 46" Sony TV since 2009, and it's been turned on almost every day.

Turned it on today, and this was the picture we were greeted with (not Fresh Prince, the screen itself. ;) ).

https://s26.postimg.cc/n8c6vj4wp/DSC6625_1920x1280.jpg
https://s26.postimg.cc/xielurn2h/DSC6626_1920x1280.jpg
https://s26.postimg.cc/p055qfvzd/DSC6627_1920x1280.jpg

So is it farked, or could it be fixed?

It's the best looking TV i've ever seen, with the normal black surround, then a glass surround, with a metal edging so really reluctant to say goodbye to it. ;(

Tom Servo
July 20th, 2018, 07:30 PM
That doesn't look like a broken screen, so presumably something on the mainboard is off. It can probably be repaired, but it could be hard to track down a replacement board and may end up costing more to fix than it would to replace - TVs are getting pretty cheap these days.

Rare White Ape
July 20th, 2018, 07:49 PM
Yep assuming you’ve checked your cables etc it’s probably fooked.

Time to upgrade yourself to a 4K with HDR. Get a Sony KD55X9000E - it’s just as good as this year’s X9000F but it’ll be cheaper because it’s a 2017 telly.

Hook up a PS4 Pro to it (or just a normal PS4) and let your eyeballs dance with joy.

SkylineObsession
July 20th, 2018, 11:14 PM
Hmmm. Not long after this post i turned it off for five seconds, then back on again and it was back to normal. Then went out for a few hours, came back and turned it on and again it was working fine.

I think perhaps this was a warning shot fired by the TV?

And we were looking at this Sony (KD55X8500F), but may see how much/if the current one can be fixed yet. Won't be going higher than 55" though (as that would require a new TV cabinet, and a bigger lounge) and i highly doubt the OLED TV's are a noticeable difference in quality compared to a normal LED, to justify the extreme price increase down that path.

I mean, i new TV would be nice, but am just so damn attached to the look of this one. I did think this day would come though. :/

Leon
July 20th, 2018, 11:47 PM
Bin it.

Blerpa
July 21st, 2018, 02:10 AM
...and i highly doubt the OLED TV's are a noticeable difference in quality compared to a normal LED, to justify the extreme price increase down that path.

Not correct at all. A normal LED, even Samsung Q-LED, does not hold a candle to the worst OLED tv set.
It's plasma vs LED once again, with LED, as usual, being on the loser side of it.

SkylineObsession
July 21st, 2018, 02:31 AM
Ah gerdammit. :/

What about the jump from LCD, as i have now, to LED? OLED's are way out of my price range at the mo.

Rare White Ape
July 21st, 2018, 03:22 AM
LCDs use the same colour production tech as LEDs.

The thing about LED TVs is that the backlight is produced by LEDs instead of the older fluorescent tubes. The LCD layer at the front is what turns the white light of the LEDs into the colours that you see.

So the two are pretty much identical.

The true jump is to OLED, which is self-emitting. Each pixel is its own backlight, so you get perfect black and more accurate colours. It’s also super energy efficient.

But is it worth it for you to pay twice as much, or will a good mid-range current LCD do the job? I chose LCD back in April and I’m very happy with it.

Jason
July 21st, 2018, 04:22 AM
There's multizone LEDs that are pretty decent if you're looking to spend less than OLED prices though. I say that as an OLED owner. Not everyone needs perfect, and wants to spend said money.

Tom Servo
July 21st, 2018, 06:38 AM
Hmmm. Not long after this post i turned it off for five seconds, then back on again and it was back to normal. Then went out for a few hours, came back and turned it on and again it was working fine.

I think perhaps this was a warning shot fired by the TV?


This sounds like either a loose connection (either a wiring harness coming loose or a solder going bad), or a capacitor going out. I say this as someone with absolutely zero knowledge of anything. Do you have a nearby electronics/appliance repair shop you can bring it to? Especially in the case of loose wiring, it might be a quick and easy repair that doesn't need any spare parts.

drew
July 21st, 2018, 09:20 AM
I'm looking forward to mine doing that so I can justifiably get a new one. We went to Italy for three weeks and it was the only thing I left plugged in, hoping for a shot of lightning to cook it.


It didn't work.

KillerB
July 21st, 2018, 10:31 AM
OLED is so worth the money. If you're trying to save some money, look to see if some place still has some last years' models. That's what I did on mine - 55" LG OLED for $1299 in April 2017 from B&H Photo.

Blerpa
July 22nd, 2018, 01:34 PM
LED tv are still LCD sets. Just better.
And yes there are decent LED sets (personally I like the Sony ones) if you want to save money (I may do that myself - my plasma tv set is 1200km distant from me and I won't have the money to buy an OLED set in the near future).
Still OLED are visibly and notably better than LED.

Dicknose
July 22nd, 2018, 04:37 PM
This sounds like either a loose connection (either a wiring harness coming loose or a solder going bad), or a capacitor going out. I say this as someone with absolutely zero knowledge of anything. Do you have a nearby electronics/appliance repair shop you can bring it to? Especially in the case of loose wiring, it might be a quick and easy repair that doesn't need any spare parts.
Agreed. Doesn’t look like “cable” issue, the breakup is on a set part of the screen. Could be bad internal connection going to those panels. Also agree capacitor is often the issue, they die easily. The “turned it off and it came good” often indicates a bad component like a cap or memory chip. The “whack it and it comes good” is a bad connection.

Check out Hisense, very good reviews, very good price. Often reviewed as better than mid range Sony for about half the price.

You could be lucky, it might be something that a tech could find just by looking (often dead/dying components have changed colour)
But it could also be $100 and they can’t fix it. Some places will do a “no fix no fee”.

If you are really just wanting an excuse to upgrade, go for it.
As for led v oled, only your eyes and wallet can decide. No doubt which is better, but also no doubt it costs more.

Tom Servo
July 22nd, 2018, 05:01 PM
Check out Hisense, very good reviews, very good price. Often reviewed as better than mid range Sony for about half the price.

Oh, so *that's* what that is. Saw that constantly being advertised during the World Cup. Reminded me of a lot of F1 advertising - banners showing a name for something that, after years, I still have no fucking idea what it is.

Dicknose
July 22nd, 2018, 05:14 PM
They make other things, but their TVs are considered the best of the cheaper brands. They are Chinese, but a bit like the Korean brands going back say 10 years.
Oh just googled and found out they bought the rights to the name “Sharp” for sales in USA. Maybe that’s why you don’t see their name directly so much. Also bought a dominant share in Toshiba televisions (Toshiba is in a bad way and selling off many of its groups)

Tom Servo
July 22nd, 2018, 06:44 PM
Oh, interesting, I had no idea Sharp had been bought out.

Rare White Ape
July 22nd, 2018, 06:55 PM
Hisense is also a sponsor of the Red Bull F1 team, if that makes any difference.

mk
July 22nd, 2018, 11:58 PM
So is it farked, or could it be fixed?

At the beginning of picture making there is a wire that brings the data in to the machine.
At the end is a wire that controls a pixel, or part of it.

How complex is the problem, how many wires it needs.
Many is screen, less may be something else.

Your case seems to be quite simple, like other half missing some red.
On the other hand red line over vertical black bar is complexing the situation, like is not sharp edge of a bar.

balki
July 23rd, 2018, 04:13 AM
OLED >>> LED/LCD, but would still recommend spending 300 USD for a 4k LED as opposed to 1300USD for an OLED

...It's the best looking TV i've ever seen, with the normal black surround, then a glass surround, with a metal edging so really reluctant to say goodbye to it. ;(
and yet you've kept that gaudy sticker at the bottom left of the panel for 9 years....?

Rare White Ape
July 23rd, 2018, 06:15 PM
An essential part of the new tv buying experience is ripping off those protective films. It’s so satisfying.


https://youtu.be/bC_HN_B80UU

SkylineObsession
July 23rd, 2018, 08:18 PM
I couldn't bring myself to take the stickers off for some reason. Maybe to try keep the 'new car smell' for as long as possible.

It irks my brother a little that i haven't taken it off, and other people mention it too. :P Still got the plastic cover/wrap over the buttons on the 2-3 year old washing machine too, plus wifeys stereo system she bought 15+ years ago.
I'm just weird. :)

But have stopped the TV search for now, as it seems to be working fine again. Hopefully when it does eventually crap out OLED TV's have gotten cheaper. A lot of good information in here though, so thanks everyone. :up: