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Godson
February 12th, 2014, 06:37 AM
So we might as well get this thing going. I'll start with the biggest news in the media right now around football.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1507115_10151988151286275_1277953689_n.jpg


Glad they left out a murder/suicide from not to long ago.

Kchrpm
February 12th, 2014, 06:47 AM
Well said. I'm stealing that.

Rikadyn
February 12th, 2014, 07:28 AM
So we might as well get this thing going. I'll start with the biggest news in the media right now around football.


Glad they left out a murder/suicide from not to long ago.

to be fair he really wasn't on the team anymore after that.

Jason
February 12th, 2014, 07:34 AM
:up:

Bills are on their 4th DC in four years. That's a recipe for success, right?

Godson
February 12th, 2014, 09:34 AM
to be fair he really wasn't on the team anymore after that.

I want to not laugh, but I can't help it...

overpowered
February 13th, 2014, 06:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olc5C4SXAYM

MR2 Fan
February 25th, 2014, 03:32 PM
So, the Bucs unveiled a new logo and helmet design the other day.

In keeping with tradition set by other teams recently such as the Cardinals, Lions, Dolphins, Jaguars, Panthers, they make a few minor changes and hope to sell tons of new merchandise to people who are gullible and want to have the "latest thing"

http://msn.foxsports.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Florida/2014/2/20/022014-fsf-nfl-tampa-bay-buccaneers-helmets-logos-split-PI.jpg

http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/buccaneers_logo_full.png

TheBenior
February 25th, 2014, 04:33 PM
I wonder how well that works, as you always see people wearing old jerseys of players who aren't even on the team anymore when you go to games. I mean, shit, ~5 years ago, I went to a Bears pre-season game and saw a guy wearing a fucking Cade McNown jersey, and he was a 1 year bust from 9 years earlier.

Kchrpm
February 25th, 2014, 04:37 PM
It only works on a certain percentage of people, but it's not like it really costs the team any extra money (they have to get new stuff anyway, and will put old stuff on clearance, because Nike and their other partners will come out with new lines/designs anyway), and they will get more money from the people it works on.

TheBenior
February 25th, 2014, 04:46 PM
Speaking of clearance, several years ago I was tempted to buy a David Terrell Bears jersey that I saw in a Marshall's as a gag gift for a friend, but they still wanted something like $40 for it.

HOW DOES A WIDE RECEIVER LEAD THE TEAM IN FALSE STARTS!?!??!

Kchrpm
March 3rd, 2014, 06:20 AM
http://www.buccaneers.com/assets/images/imported/TB/2014/news/02/article/Uniform03_03_14_2_a.jpg

Rikadyn
March 3rd, 2014, 01:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Xp6qeAX.gif

Jason
March 3rd, 2014, 02:23 PM
Hah!

MR2 Fan
March 3rd, 2014, 03:27 PM
Uniform design is :smh:

The colors and style is one thing...but the numbers are the worst part. What do digital looking numbers have to do with something themed to, as far as I can tell, 19th century pirates?

Phil_SS
March 3rd, 2014, 03:27 PM
I can't decide. I need to see it in action.

But, it's in no way even close to the creamsicle jerseys. I think they are awesome and if I was the owner I would never change them.

speedpimp
March 3rd, 2014, 04:05 PM
Looks like an Arena League uniform.

Freude am Fahren
March 3rd, 2014, 07:58 PM
Uniform design is :smh:

The colors and style is one thing...but the numbers are the worst part. What do digital looking numbers have to do with something themed to, as far as I can tell, 19th century pirates?



Ha! Exactly.

I thought arena of XFL as well.

KillerB
March 4th, 2014, 02:16 PM
I always thought the 97-2013 uniforms but with orange jerseys instead of red would have been perfect.

ettsn
March 5th, 2014, 11:51 AM
Reeks of a desperate attempt by the Glazers to raise some funds through merch sales.

21Kid
March 5th, 2014, 11:56 AM
And isn't that really what the NFL is all about anyway?

ettsn
March 7th, 2014, 10:09 AM
Yeah, but jeebus that new uni is awful! :lol:

Godson
March 11th, 2014, 04:58 PM
Soooo...


KC fans are FREAKING out. It isn't without concern, but as usual we are going waaaaaay overboard.

Brandon Albert LT
Jon Asamoah G
Jeff Schwartz G
Dexter McCluster WR/ST
Kendrick Lewis S
Tyson Jackson DE


I am not really worried about the changes as they will allow is to save a bit more money for signing others. This article sums up my thoughts quite well.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/kansas-city-chiefs-lost-five-free-agents-in-first-90-minutes-of-league-year-224606347.html

novicius
March 12th, 2014, 06:17 AM
YOU MUST GET PAID!! :lol:

The Packers re-signed their shutdown cornerback Sam Shields to a mid-to-big league contract. A lot of fans are up in arms since we're still not addressing the need at safety but I'm fine with this signing. :up:

ettsn
March 13th, 2014, 04:34 PM
Thanks for Asamoah and Jackson btw. :up:

Godson
March 13th, 2014, 07:06 PM
Yeah, hopefully they can do some more growing. i honestly felt that they were going to cost too much for their use for us. I know that sounds off, but I truely think we are going for a very long-term game. I just hope KC trusts these guys. They should be VERY productive for you guys.


In other news:

We resigned Abdullah, which is a good thing IMO as he has a lot of room to grow. Also nabbed Joe Mays and Jeff Linkenback. Emmaneul Sanders will be visiting tomorrow. Here is to hoping.

21Kid
March 14th, 2014, 09:15 AM
A lot of fans are up in arms since we're still not addressing the need at safety/OLB/T/C/TE but I'm fine with this signing. :up:

:|

novicius
March 14th, 2014, 10:44 AM
Relax, Kid -- none of our players have been signed by other teams. We'll get a lot of them back for reasonable money. :up:

21Kid
March 14th, 2014, 11:18 AM
That still doesn't fix the problem of the lack of talent at those positions. :finger:

novicius
March 14th, 2014, 06:48 PM
Draft and develop, son! :D

Rikadyn
March 14th, 2014, 07:12 PM
Signing big name FA's gets you headlines, Drafting and developing talent gets you championships

Jason
March 14th, 2014, 08:29 PM
Lost Byrd (glorified centerfielder), gained Spikes (2 down run stuffer)... I'll take it :up:

novicius
March 15th, 2014, 08:50 AM
Julius Peppers signs 3-year-deal with Green Bay Packers.

Happy now, Kid?? ;) #gopackgo

Godson
March 16th, 2014, 07:04 AM
Chiefs resign Frank Zombo, which is huuuuuge. He was very productive for us.

We also nabbed DT Vance Walker. Who I know nothing about.

novicius
March 16th, 2014, 07:26 AM
We always liked Zombo in Green Bay -- glad he's working out for you guys. :up:

21Kid
March 16th, 2014, 02:47 PM
Peppers? Whoa... Completely shocked. Packers very rarely ever sign big name players. Zombo was good, yes.

Godson
March 16th, 2014, 03:53 PM
:angry:

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/4686/chiefs-back-to-square-one-at-wr

TheBenior
March 16th, 2014, 04:05 PM
Peppers was a good release by the Bears due to his scheduled $17 million cap hit and the fact that he'd clearly lost a step in 2013.

He'd have been worth keeping at half that figure, which is what the Packers are paying him.

novicius
March 17th, 2014, 04:03 PM
But that impact is spread over two years due to deferred bonuses so really, we're getting him for like a 1/4th of that this coming season. :D

21Kid
April 25th, 2014, 01:02 PM
Former Buffalo Bills Cheerleader Who Is Suing The Team Reveals Details Of The 'Jiggle Test' (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25/buffalo-bills-jiggle-test_n_5213561.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)

"One week prior to the game, we were to dress in our uniforms and stand before our coach, who had a clipboard in her hand, and we had to face forward, turn around, face back to the front and do about 10 jumping jacks. And from there, she would write down on her notepad what parts of our bodies jiggled," she said.

Jason
April 25th, 2014, 01:19 PM
:lol:

Stay classy, Bills.

Freude am Fahren
April 25th, 2014, 02:37 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see that it happens in a lot of teams.

TheBenior
April 25th, 2014, 04:52 PM
It definitely doesn't happen with the Bears, Browns, Giants, Lions, Packers, or the Steelers!

Jason
April 27th, 2014, 04:33 AM
:up:

21Kid
April 27th, 2014, 04:53 PM
You mean :down: ?

What the point... really?

Jason
May 8th, 2014, 05:06 PM
Aggressive move by the Bills... Hope they have a QB to throw at all these WRs. :|

Kchrpm
May 9th, 2014, 05:16 AM
The Bengals brought in some free agents for tryouts during the draft, they have their eye on a local fullback/QB hybrid.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eHQMzCGQEJs

Jason
May 9th, 2014, 07:16 AM
Bully. :lol:

Kchrpm
May 9th, 2014, 08:21 AM
HE WAS IN THE WAY!

His dad agreed.

novicius
May 9th, 2014, 10:36 AM
Ha-ha! ;)

(Although I watch his highlight reel and it's not like he's knocking down or picking off everything -- looks to be a solid tackler with good instincts, tho').

Kchrpm
May 9th, 2014, 11:26 AM
Bills trade Stevie Johnson to the 49ers for a mid round pick next year.

Jason
May 9th, 2014, 02:33 PM
I hate when we do this. Why create holes? Now we have zero WRs on our team that are proven NFL starters.

Hope Watkins, last year's rookies, and that head case, Mike Williams work out, heh.

Rikadyn
May 9th, 2014, 02:40 PM
Yea that was a stupid move

KillerB
May 11th, 2014, 07:38 PM
I do not have words for how angry I am that the Eagles passed on Manziel. I get not trading up, but that 3rd they got ended up turning into a 4 and a 5.

I'd say history will show that a 4 and a 5 for Johnny Football would have been crazy talk, but he's going to Cleveland, and history has shown that God hates Cleveland.

Still, it's now going to forever be a "what might have been" story, and I hate those. Johnny F. Football + LeSean McCoy + Chip Kelly could have been amazeballs. Or at least it would have been fun watching them crash and burn. Instead, we get the Philly story of 2014... "Nick Foles and the Regression to the Mean."

Jason
May 12th, 2014, 03:55 AM
Speaking of Philly...

You guys sent Bryce Brown to the Bills... he had success in his rookie year, it looks like, but not too much with Chip. What's your opinion on the kid?

ettsn
May 15th, 2014, 09:40 AM
So, if the Rams convert Michael Sam to a weakside OLB, will that mean he is MIKE SAM WILL?

Just sayin'

Kchrpm
May 15th, 2014, 09:53 AM
:up:

Jason
May 15th, 2014, 05:17 PM
:up: :up:

KillerB
May 15th, 2014, 08:59 PM
Bryce Brown had way more talent than his draft position. I think he's suited to a more traditional pro-style offense than what's in Philly now. I thought for sure that the Chiefs would trade for him.

His Speed Score (one of the weird metrics on Football Outsiders) had him rated very highly. I'd have preferred we not trade him away, TBH. Good pick up.

Godson
May 16th, 2014, 09:39 AM
Johnny football is an idiot.

Rikadyn
May 16th, 2014, 09:42 AM
Johnny football is an idiot.

Any particular reason for this comment? Not that I don't agree

Kchrpm
May 16th, 2014, 10:18 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/johnny-manziel-texted-browns-hurry-draft-article-1.1794789

Godson
May 16th, 2014, 12:34 PM
Yeah, that would be the reason.... CLEVELAND!

MR2 Fan
June 18th, 2014, 07:57 AM
Washington Redskins can't use their logo for merchandise anymore

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/washington-redskins-trademark-cancelled-over-native-concerns-1.2679477?cmp=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I'm still undecided about this whole thing honestly.

As far as replacement names, why not just keep the logo and everything and call them the "Washington Natives"? Seems like a fair compromise IMO

Freude am Fahren
June 18th, 2014, 03:24 PM
They can still use it, however, they can't stop someone else from using it. So anyone can start selling Redskins gear as long as it doesn't include any other trademarks like the NFL logo. And this is a league problem too, because I think other than the Cowboys, all merchandise for the teams is marketed by the league. So the League would sue, and all the teams have an interest. Or something like that.

Anyway, it's only a figurative win currently, since the trademark is still in effect, as long as the ruling is being appealed. Hopefully they lose the appeal and are forced to change their names, but it has been thrown out before.

This was a very smart way to go about this, IMO, as nothing will make people give in more than taking away their money.

ettsn
June 20th, 2014, 04:43 PM
Just wanted to share a project with you guys that my company built. This isn't public yet, so please just keep within us for now.

http://youtu.be/SaLwzLijGHY

This is the Falcons Sales Office. We built the video ring, which is a smaller replica of the huge display ring going in the new place.

Figured you guys would think its cool. :)

Kchrpm
June 20th, 2014, 08:42 PM
Damn :up: awesome stuff

ettsn
June 23rd, 2014, 12:29 PM
Another project we did displays for is the new ESPN Sportscenter set. Here's a brief video showing the new facility:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EOB8UB2phI

Freude am Fahren
June 23rd, 2014, 01:19 PM
That's funny, we're just about to build a new set that has similar ideas to that, though not as massive, but it hear a lot of the same stuff. Things like we don't even know how we're going to use this yet, and we don't know how that will work. The real technical people just shake their heads and curse the people with the 'vision'.

Rikadyn
June 26th, 2014, 05:49 AM
Thanks for the Flowers Tyler.

GB
June 26th, 2014, 06:30 AM
Relax in your poolside cabana... or in the pool itself... while you watch a Jaguars game.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0609/nfl_jaguars_stadium1_600x600.jpg

Freude am Fahren
June 26th, 2014, 06:52 AM
At least there will be plenty of room. Also I hope they plan to use a lot of that board for data and/or multiple angles. That aspect ratio would suck to watch as they show it in the render.

Godson
June 26th, 2014, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the Flowers Tyler.

Yeah. I am not really happy about that, but we needed the cap space. If you let the guy go, don't let him go in conference. Especially a Pro Bowler cornerback.

Rikadyn
June 26th, 2014, 01:00 PM
I'm not even sure how we afforded him with our negative cap space

Godson
June 26th, 2014, 01:21 PM
You paid him with San Diego beach booty.

Rikadyn
June 26th, 2014, 05:56 PM
I wanna be paid in San Diego beach booty

Godson
June 26th, 2014, 06:38 PM
So do I.




I guess the requirement is to be a probowler cornerback.

Godson
July 22nd, 2014, 05:35 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tony-dungy-s-assessment-of-rams-rookie-michael-sam-reflects-stunning-lack-of-courage-195216393.html

And so it begins.

TheBenior
July 22nd, 2014, 03:03 PM
From a Deadspin commenter:

Dungy's real problem with Sam is that he needs to get him out of the way in order to steal the ring back from Frodo.

Jason
July 24th, 2014, 02:57 AM
I understand the point... like, I wouldn't want Tebow for the same reasons... it's a media circus.

BUT

As an early prominant black head coach, you'd think he would understand the struggles that Sam is going through, and would be supportive.

Kchrpm
July 24th, 2014, 05:43 AM
Dungy's comments were made after the Oprah documentary was announced, and before it had been cancelled because everyone said it was a terrible idea.

Godson
July 31st, 2014, 04:54 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000372200/article/sanders-commings-breaks-ankle-at-chiefs-camp


FML

MR2 Fan
August 10th, 2014, 06:44 AM
Preseason starting....all headlines are about Johnny "Football", ugh

Godson
August 10th, 2014, 10:49 AM
Yeah, and he looked like shit.


In other news, DAT was fun to see return a Punt for a TD. Hope more of that comes in the season.

Jason
August 10th, 2014, 05:00 PM
JF is the new Tebow. Unfortunately he might be able to actually play football too. :|

novicius
August 11th, 2014, 09:58 AM
In the 2015 Preseason Bowl, the Packers are already out of it (lost 20-16 to the Tennessee Titans).

Some good points:


Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/ha%20ha-clinton-dix?id=2543470) (currently the Greatest Name in Sports) looks damn good. Made some rookie mistakes but certainly played fast, hard and fearless. How long before he breaks himself?
Turn-of-the-Century First Rounder Derek Sherrod also looked like the Terminator! :eek: :up: He might replace the Golden Boy Bakhtiari at LT.
Dujuan Harris might have some fierce competition from Rajion Neal for the 3rd RB spot.
Tolzien > Flynn, I don't care that he locks onto his first receiver. Packers' record books be damned, Flynn looked *turrible*. :smh:


EDIT: Heh, apparently it was raining so hard in Tennessee that the headsets went out and 2nd- and 3rd-string players were making the calls on the field.

EDIT to the EDIT: Also, check out the worst seat in the house! (https://twitter.com/jwyattsports/status/498488364262490112/photo/1) :lol:

KillerB
August 11th, 2014, 02:46 PM
I hope Johnny Football ends up being awesome while also simultaneously continuing to be a party animal, just to run it in the faces of all the self-righteous, self-serious sports media who are just *appalled* by his antics. I just wish he was doing it as an Eagle.

As for him looking like shit, what game were you watching? Especially considering what passes for a receiving corps in Cleveland with Gordon out.

novicius
August 13th, 2014, 07:03 AM
Packers trade DE Worthy to Patriots. (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/packers-trade-worthy-patriots-012207268--nfl.html) #bust

Conditional 7th rounder for a former 2nd round pick? Not Ted's biggest bust but it's up there.

21Kid
August 19th, 2014, 11:49 AM
Can't predict injuries. :(

Jason
August 24th, 2014, 03:32 AM
The Bills are bad. Reeeeeallly bad.

Godson
August 24th, 2014, 08:20 AM
We looked like shit last night.

novicius
August 29th, 2014, 04:48 AM
Well this much we know: your backups suck. ;)

The Vikings are your 2015 NFL Preseason Champions! BriJay would be *so* proud! :lol: :up:

21Kid
August 29th, 2014, 06:04 AM
(BriJay) You're reverse jinx will have no effect on us. (/BriJay)

novicius
August 29th, 2014, 06:13 AM
:toast:

He'd be quietly hopeful with this Vikings squad and their coach, I think. They look sharper than they've been in years and we may have a fight on our-- wait, no, I can't even finish that sentence with a straight face. :lol: #gopackgo

21Kid
August 29th, 2014, 12:51 PM
Packers should do alright this year. :cool:

Godson
August 29th, 2014, 01:58 PM
Looked like bigger shit last night. Tyler Bray was the only o.e who looked ok.

Random
September 1st, 2014, 07:11 PM
The Bills picked up UCDavis grad Colton Schmidt. :up:

Jason
September 3rd, 2014, 06:42 PM
SUPERBOWL

novicius
September 4th, 2014, 05:10 AM
Hey.

Are you ready for some football? ;)

MR2 Fan
September 4th, 2014, 03:30 PM
SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, SO AWESOME IT'S ON THURSDAY

novicius
September 4th, 2014, 05:02 PM
Packers look skitterish; Seahawks look pretty steady and ready -- this should be interesting... #chewsnails :D

novicius
September 4th, 2014, 05:10 PM
KKKKKHHHHHUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN! :hard:

Godson
September 4th, 2014, 06:19 PM
I should probably set my 2 fantasy lineups...

novicius
September 4th, 2014, 06:48 PM
Yep, the Seahawks look sharp. Damn good squad.

Packers OTOH look *very* raw... :smh:

Random
September 4th, 2014, 10:20 PM
The Bills picked up UCDavis grad Colton Schmidt. :up:

In other UCD news, TE Daniel Fells is back after a year off. Signed with the Giants and made it to the 53-man roster. w00t!

novicius
September 5th, 2014, 06:49 AM
Mike McCarthy Coaching Scared Against Seahawks Does Offense No Favors (http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/mike-mccarthy-coaching-scared-against-seahawks-does-offense-no-favors)


Last year, Mike McCarthy wanted to make one thing perfectly clear. His teams don't play scared. "We don't play scared and we don't coach scared." McCarthy said at one point.

This isn't new. McCarthy has been knocking back questions at press conferences with "We don't play scared" for years. Well, now there is documented evidence that McCarthy's team most certainly will play and coach scared if presented with a talented foe. Much will be made in the coming days, rightly so, about the Packers steadfast refusal to even look over toward Richard Sherman's side of the field last night.

Content to send out Jarrett Boykin toward Sherman's side all night and all but play 10 on 10 football, McCarthy's game plan was clearly built around trying to get Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb matched up on Seattle's "other" corner, Byron Maxwell. And it worked reasonably well for awhile. Targeted 11 times, Maxwell allowed nine catches, including five first downs. Yes, he had the interception, but that was completely on Aaron Rodgers and Jordy Nelson (Nelson probably more so, though Rodgers took the blame in his post-game press conference)

The problem with this approach became apparent as the game went on. The Seahawks, knowing the Packers wanted nothing to do with Sherman, began rolling coverage toward Maxwell's side. It also allowed them to play with a single high safety almost exclusively as well, which made running the football all that more arduous.

If McCarthy wants to prove he's not "coaching scared" he needs to send out his best to take on his opponents best.

The Packers paid Nelson this offseason because he's one of the better receivers in the league. They can't be scared to let him go up against the best corners in the game.
Best write-up of the game I've come across today. :up: :up:

Godson
September 5th, 2014, 08:56 AM
Heh

21Kid
September 5th, 2014, 12:43 PM
Seahawks looked the business!

Packers look like they need some practice. :( Doesn't help having a rookie center and 3 missing O Linemen in the first game.

MR2 Fan
September 5th, 2014, 03:43 PM
Russell Wilson looked sharp, but all of those 9 yard passes made me upset, fantasy-wise :mad:

Jason
September 8th, 2014, 07:27 AM
The Patriots are all alone in last place in the AFC East...

I'm just going to enjoy this for a week....

novicius
September 8th, 2014, 07:55 AM
After watching the Bills outplay the Bears, I'm feeling ok. Too bad that the Vikes got to face St. Louis' 2nd- and 3rd-string QB's, tho'. :assclown:

LET'S GO GIANTS! Here's hoping that they take out the Lions tonight! ;)

SupraDupra
September 8th, 2014, 10:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoiCagJhmQc

Godson
September 8th, 2014, 08:27 PM
Ray Rice, you are a piece of horse shit.

Freude am Fahren
September 9th, 2014, 10:07 AM
But a bigger piece of shit than the NFL and the Ravens? Let assume that no one in the NFL or the team saw the full video. Ok...

They knew he punched her out. Stood by him, just two games. Tried in court. Wife stood by him. This video comes out. What changed? It's just a chance for PR.

Drachen596
September 9th, 2014, 10:25 AM
NFL seems to be saying the Cops didn't give them the actual elevator footage. Cops are saying the NFL never asked for footage.

very he said she said type stuff. NFL should have handed down a much stronger punishment in the first place especially when you have guys suspended for far more games because they used marijuana.

Kchrpm
September 9th, 2014, 10:56 AM
Freude-
The wife basically claimed that she attacked him, and he was just defending himself when she hit her head on something, knocking her unconscious. Not good, but not nearly as bad as what the video revealed.

neanderthal
September 9th, 2014, 12:39 PM
Freude-
The wife basically claimed that she attacked him, and he was just defending himself when she hit her head on something, knocking her unconscious. Not good, but not nearly as bad as what the video revealed.

I'm not defending him at all, but I also thought to myself "why not show the preceeding few minutes so we can see what went on." It's not like Ray Rice has a history of this unlike, say, Floyd Mayweather. I know the statistics about spousal abuse, but I also know a shit ton of women who don't know when to stop needling and prodding and provoking and escalating. I dated one. She punched me (not playfully!) during a heated argument and I walked away with the strong admonishment to never, under any circumstances, do that again. Fast forward a few weeks/ months/ whatever it was and, again, during an argument, she punched me. I turned to walk away and told her i'd already warned her about that. She grabbed my arm, talking bout "don't you turn your back on me when i'm talking to you" and when I pulled away she punched me again. I decked her. She never punched me again.

I was actually sitting down to lunch with my brother when we witnessed this woman belittling the man she was with, calling him names, poking him in the chest, slapping him, insulting him, going very. clearly. waaaaaaaaaay over the line. I didn't know if it was a sub/ dom thing (how many of those happen in public?) but both he (my brother) and I said to each other that there clearly is a place when you hit a woman, and that was one of them. No man steps to other men the way some of these women do.

I remember in the Jay Z/ Solange elevator kung- fu off that voices were raised questioning what he did to make her so mad.

Disquieting that those same, mostly female, voices were muted this time.

Drachen596
September 9th, 2014, 12:56 PM
Did Jay Z KO Beyonces little sister and then drag her around?

Rice did and he KO'ed her with one punch, then dragged her out of the elevator. it didn't help the issue that the NFL handed out a lesser penalty for physical violence than it has for using a drug some states are now legalizing or DUIs.

Hell the Vikings suspended a special teams coach for 3 games because of homophobic slurs.
Matt Prater got suspended 4 games for alcohol issues.
Jim Irsay a $500,000 fine and 6 game suspension, remember he is the team owner, for DUI and some prescription pills.

Kchrpm
September 9th, 2014, 01:11 PM
Drach-
She sure tried to KO him.

neanderthal-
You can see in the video of them before they got in the elevator that she does slap him at least lightly. Many will say that under no circumstances should you hit a woman, especially if you're a relatively huge, muscular professional athlete, that at most you should protect yourself. The fact that he waited until they got on the elevator, hit her to provoke her to attack, then decks her once she comes at him, just seems like too calculating of a move.

But he's not going to go to jail for it. I'm under the impression the prosecution saw this tape, and was convinced by the wife that she did in fact provoke that response. I don't know. I don't know what really happened, I don't think anyone other than Ray and his wife will know all of the circumstances, but what is there looks really bad. Maybe there's a long history of her doing things to him, but provoking her to do it again and then decking her, it'd probably be really hard to lay out the path of actions by her that make it look better than it does.

Freude am Fahren
September 9th, 2014, 01:39 PM
I'm not defending Rice at all. I'm just saying that the NFL and Raven's got very lucky that this came out, as they were being bashed in the media for not doing more when it first happened. Rather than having to appear weak to public pressure, they got "new evidence."

Jason
September 9th, 2014, 03:40 PM
The NFL saw the video.

There were multiple reports way back when this started that almost perfectly line up with the newly released video. All of them were "and according to sources, the NFL has a second video that shows *insert description of current video going around*. The NFL fucked this one up. I have no idea why they wanted to only give Rice a two game ban, but for some reason they did.

---

In happier news, the Bills have a new owner pending league approval. Pegula will be keeping the Bills in Buffalo, which is great news for the region. He already owns the Sabres, and though he hasn't had success with them, he hasn't been shy in spending money on the team. I'm pretty excited. Also, reports that him, and some other local rich folks are pitching in to get a new stadium built, to really cement the team in the area for a while. :up:

neanderthal
September 9th, 2014, 03:51 PM
Did Jay Z KO Beyonces little sister and then drag her around?

No, but he parried and blocked until security got in involved. Was security there with Ray Rice?
And, if you or anybody came at me (and I think most men) like that you'd take a big fucking punch. Which was exactly the point I was trying to make earlier.


Rice did and he KO'ed her with one punch, then dragged her out of the elevator. it didn't help the issue that the NFL handed out a lesser penalty for physical violence than it has for using a drug some states are now legalizing or DUIs.

Hell the Vikings suspended a special teams coach for 3 games because of homophobic slurs.
Matt Prater got suspended 4 games for alcohol issues.
Jim Irsay a $500,000 fine and 6 game suspension, remember he is the team owner, for DUI and some prescription pills.

I'm not going to sit here and try to parse the vagaries of the different offenses and which is worse and why. And which sentence is worthy of the crime and which one isn't. That's not what i'm here to discuss.

If we are talking strictly about this particular incident, i'm not defending Ray Rice like I said, but I don't want to make any judgement without seeing the preceding tape.
Ray Rice doesn't have a history of battering women. I refuse , even without knowing him, to throw him under that bus until there is clear evidence to the contrary.
I've been with and i've seen women badgering men beyond the pale. If that's what happened, then i'll fucking say it she deserved it. If it's not what happened, then he is getting his just deserts.

I'm not going to sit here and pretend that all men are automatically abusers or all women are automatically victims. Because then YOU are an abuser. By virtue of your twig n berries. More importantly, it paints me with that same brush and that's utter bullshit.

Feel free to defend yourself if your attacked; by a woman, a rugby player, a train, a comet, a whatever.

As for Ray Rice, i'll gladly excoriate him when we see the video of what happened before they got to the elevator that paints him as the vile person you purport him to be. What I saw was her slapping him outside the elevator, then her charging at him inside it, him reacting and punching her, her hitting her head on the railing, and being knocked out. If what you saw was different feel free to show it.

neanderthal
September 9th, 2014, 04:02 PM
Drach-
She sure tried to KO him.

neanderthal-
You can see in the video of them before they got in the elevator that she does slap him at least lightly. Many will say that under no circumstances should you hit a woman, especially if you're a relatively huge, muscular professional athlete, that at most you should protect yourself. The fact that he waited until they got on the elevator, hit her to provoke her to attack, then decks her once she comes at him, just seems like too calculating of a move.

But he's not going to go to jail for it. I'm under the impression the prosecution saw this tape, and was convinced by the wife that she did in fact provoke that response. I don't know. I don't know what really happened, I don't think anyone other than Ray and his wife will know all of the circumstances, but what is there looks really bad. Maybe there's a long history of her doing things to him, but provoking her to do it again and then decking her, it'd probably be really hard to lay out the path of actions by her that make it look better than it does.

I think the difference is that in the elevator she charged at him, outside, she just slapped him. There's a whole world of difference in those encounters.

I don't think anyone needs to sit and take abuse from anyone else simply because you are bigger than they are. Respect doesn't disappear because you're genetically blessed and they aren't. A modicum of respect is accorded to all. Equally. Those that deserve more earn it.

The golden saying is "do unto others....."

Kchrpm
September 9th, 2014, 07:42 PM
Neanderthal -
In the elevator it looked like, to me, that he punched her to provoke her reaction before she charged him, charging him was the reaction he wanted, and then he delivered the knockout punch. It's blurry and has a low frame rate, but that's how I interpreted it.

Kchrpm
September 9th, 2014, 07:47 PM
And the NFL is adamant that they didn't see the video in the elevator, despite reports and rumors to the contrary. I hope they're not just holing up behind a wall of lies.

neanderthal
September 9th, 2014, 08:52 PM
Neanderthal -
In the elevator it looked like, to me, that he punched her to provoke her reaction before she charged him, charging him was the reaction he wanted, and then he delivered the knockout punch. It's blurry and has a low frame rate, but that's how I interpreted it.

All I saw was her charging at him. I didn't see a punch before that.

There's supposed to be a higher def version out there. I'm willing to join the chorus of "hang him" but not until I see damning evidence.

All i've seen and heard so far is that they BOTH STRUCK EACH OTHER. But she, of course, is the victim. I have a problem with that. Why isn't he the victim?
.

neanderthal
September 9th, 2014, 08:58 PM
And the NFL is adamant that they didn't see the video in the elevator, despite reports and rumors to the contrary. I hope they're not just holing up behind a wall of lies.

Reporters reported that "nfl insiders" reported seeing a video that acted out in almost exactly the same manner the video played out. i have a hard time believing that.
To me, the NFL only started sorta acting appropriately when YOU AND I saw the damning evidence.

Kchrpm
September 10th, 2014, 06:15 AM
I'm watching the video again repeatedly, it looks (to me) like he makes a spitting motion towards her face while close (can't confirm if he actually spits, she turns toward him and he hits her the first time, though it may just be a hard slap. She falls backwards against the wall, and her head snaps to the side. Immediately after the initial blow, he retreats to the other side of the elevator. She comes after him after gathering herself, and then he delivers the knock out punch to her face, which sends her head flying into the wall and down against the handrail, leaving her unconscious by the time she hits the ground.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-elevator-knockout-fiancee-takes-crushing-punch-video/

So from what we can see
- She slaps him somewhat lightly (there's on windup) far outside the elevator, and they walk in together
- As the elevator door closes, her body is forward and turned away from him, he gets up close and she looks at him
- He leans in and out sharply in what looks like a spitting motion, causing her to turn to face him (too fast to tell what her hands do here)
- He slaps or punches her hard enough at this point to make her head spin quickly enough for her hair to flip up
- As she is recovering from that blow, he backs up to the other side of the elevator
- She attempts to close space and come at him when she recovers
- He delivers a left hook to her head
- The left hook sends her into the back wall of the elevator, where her head hits the hand rail as she falls to the ground and leaves her unconscious

novicius
September 10th, 2014, 10:25 AM
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that all men are automatically abusers or all women are automatically victims. Because then YOU are an abuser. By virtue of your twig n berries. More importantly, it paints me with that same brush and that's utter bullshit.
Nobody is saying you're an abuser because you have testicles. I'm saying you're an abuser because you admitted to it.


She grabbed my arm, talking bout "don't you turn your back on me when i'm talking to you" and when I pulled away she punched me again. I decked her.

21Kid
September 10th, 2014, 10:26 AM
It amazes me how quickly people jump on everyone now-a-days. And expect immediate action. What ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

His fiancee didn't even want to press charges... and in-fact they got married after the incident. I can understand if it's like that MMA douche who consistently beats people. But, this was supposedly a first time incident. He isn't even going to jail or going to trial. He just has to go to counseling.

To ban someone for life from a dangerous sport where you hit people on purpose... because he hit someone one time, provoked or not, seems a little extreme to me.


edit: I thought neanderthal's story was about defending himself? Not being an abuser? :? Does punching a girl automatically make you an abuser?

Kchrpm
September 10th, 2014, 10:37 AM
There's a player in the league right now accused of domestic violence who is being allowed to play because the team and the league have not seen evidence that it took place yet:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-09-09/ray-mcdonald-domestic-abuse-suspension-ray-rice-reaction-49ers-ravens-harbaugh-punishment-case-arrested

In Ray Rice's case, evidence existed as soon as it was brought to the public's attention IIRC, and the league reacted to the evidence that was there (though many argued it was not sufficient). When more evidence was shown which appeared that the actual incident was more serious than initially thought, the reaction was stronger.

RE: him going to jail and not counseling, there are people who are very upset about that. Apparently this is the first case in the state of someone who was charged with this crime going to counseling instead of the case going to trial (pretrial intervention, PTI) : http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11495795/prosecutor-office-defends-ray-rice-decision


PTI is rarely used in aggravated assault cases in Atlantic County, several victims' rights advocates said Tuesday.

"I was stunned," said Donna D'Andrea, a legal advocate for The Women's Center, a domestic violence and sexual abuse help center in Linwood, NJ. "I'm outraged."

D'Andrea said in her nearly 30 years of experience, she cannot recall a single other aggravated assault case being resolved by pre-trial intervention.

"None of it makes any sense on why this was allowed," she said. "Usually, there is a plea deal to a lesser charge so the person is put into the system and can be monitored. They didn't do that here. None of it makes any sense why this was allowed to happen this way."

Basically the whole thing is a shit show.

And he isn't banned for life, just for an indefinite amount of time. Goodell has already said that he could see him being reinstated in the future: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/10/goodell-i-dont-rule-out-ray-rice-returning/

novicius
September 10th, 2014, 10:37 AM
edit: I thought neanderthal's story was about defending himself? Not being an abuser? :? Does punching a girl automatically make you an abuser?
Unless she's holding a weapon or assaulted you with a chair maybe? Otherwise what else is it? I should say, physical abuse is physical abuse, I believe (as they weren't married).

Now, Ray Rice banned from the NFL? That's up to the business owners. But obviously Rice was also going through his legal requirements as well so even in the eyes of the law he's in the wrong, regardless of what she said or did prior to the elevator fight.

21Kid
September 10th, 2014, 10:43 AM
Defending yourself is abuse? :? well shit.

Guess, if I'm ever in that situation, I'll just sit there and get punched until someone comes to my rescue so I am not an abuser.

novicius
September 10th, 2014, 10:46 AM
Or remove oneself from the situation? Or call for help, cry "Fire!" or dial 911? All sorts of possibilities exist in lieu of punching a woman. #$0.02

21Kid
September 10th, 2014, 10:47 AM
In an elevator?

And why only women? Seems sexist to me. :| honestly. All this talk about equality all of the time. But, I get evil looks if I don't give up my seat on the bus for a woman. You want equality, it goes both ways, good and bad. :finger:

novicius
September 10th, 2014, 10:49 AM
In Rice's case, he certainly looks strong enough to hold both her wrists in one hand and hit the next floor button with the other.

21Kid
September 10th, 2014, 10:54 AM
I know. Just saying, people are ready to burn him at the stake without knowing all of the details.

novicius
September 10th, 2014, 10:55 AM
And why only women? Seems sexist to me. :| honestly. All this talk about equality all of the time. But, I get evil looks if I don't give up my seat on the bus for a woman. You want equality, it goes both ways, good and bad. :finger:
It shouldn't be only women -- but generally we're bigger than they are and there is the entire history of mankind to look upon when it comes to how men have treated women.

OTOH, if you see a bigger woman beating the shit out of her smaller male partner, I will be right there with you in dialing 911. ;)

novicius
September 10th, 2014, 10:58 AM
I know. Just saying, people are ready to burn him at the stake without knowing all of the details.
She pretty much needs to A.) have had a gun, and B.) shot it once already, to justify that punch.

21Kid
September 10th, 2014, 11:13 AM
Maybe she did prior to the video... That's my point. We just don't know.


I'm fairly certain that is not the case. But, why should we be the judge on what happened, based soley off of that 2 minute video?

Jason
September 10th, 2014, 04:44 PM
Report today says the NFL had the tapes in April... not a surprise.

As far as Rice's punishment.... he's lucky he's not in jail.

I think the NFL should suspend him for a year, make him do some sort of counseling/community thing.

neanderthal
September 10th, 2014, 10:49 PM
I dated one. She punched me (not playfully!) during a heated argument and I walked away with the strong admonishment to never, under any circumstances, do that again. Fast forward a few weeks/ months/ whatever it was and, again, during an argument, she punched me. I turned to walk away and told her i'd already warned her about that. She grabbed my arm, talking bout "don't you turn your back on me when i'm talking to you" and when I pulled away she punched me again. I decked her. She never punched me again.




Nobody is saying you're an abuser because you have testicles. I'm saying you're an abuser because you admitted to it.

Clearly your reading comprehension is shit. Or you're an idiot. Three times i was hit, twice with a warning to not do that again, the third time, immediately after delivering that second warning. AND IN EACH CASE I was trying to walk away from the situation.

I WILL defend myself against anybody who attacks me, period. I don't care if is Tinkerbell, I don't care if it's Musafa the Lion, I don't care if it's Optimus Prime.

The notion that a man should not defend himself against a woman who is attacking him is sexist. What next, women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen? Because they're dainty little angels? Fuck that.

Women must own up to their actions, and if attacking a man gets you a beatdown you got to own up to that shit and say "i deserved it." Whether you're a man or a woman.

I'll say it again for any and all. Nobody should hit anybody else, but if you're hit, feel free to defend yourself in such a manner that curtails such behaviuor immediately.

neanderthal
September 10th, 2014, 10:55 PM
Unless she's holding a weapon or assaulted you with a chair maybe? Otherwise what else is it? I should say, physical abuse is physical abuse, I believe (as they weren't married).



Clearly what you mean is physical abuse is physical abuse unless it's being delivered by a woman.

Reverse racism is NOT a thing; it's racism. Period. Doesn't matter who dealt it. The same applies here. Physical abuse from a woman is physical abuse. And if it's not tolerated when men do it it sure as fuck shouldn't be excused because a woman is doing it.

Edit; i'm not even sure how being married changes the picture or relevance in any way. Or does being married give you license to wail on your spouse?

novicius
September 11th, 2014, 09:30 AM
Clearly your reading comprehension is shit. Or you're an idiot. Three times i was hit, twice with a warning to not do that again, the third time, immediately after delivering that second warning. AND IN EACH CASE I was trying to walk away from the situation.
Obviously next time you need to run. #dropthemic

21Kid
September 11th, 2014, 10:13 AM
:lol:

neanderthal
September 11th, 2014, 12:28 PM
Just skip right past the part where I said she grabbed my arm.

Was I supposed to run with the crazy chic hanging off my arm, still yelling "stop running so I can administer a proper beating!!!!!"
She stands in front of the door, you push her out the way, she falls, hits her head, now you. pushed. her. Very different from you defended yourself when she hit you.

Drachen596
September 11th, 2014, 04:23 PM
the NFL is giving themselves a black eye over this whole situation and their teams aren't making it any better for them.

San Francisco is apparently suspending a reporter because he made some comments about domestic violence.. yet one of their players who is still playing and practicing was ARRESTED for domestic violence. double standard much?


as for Rices fiance/wife not wanting to press charges and marry him afterwards. women often seem to go back to their abusers and will keep doing so until something causes them to change their thinking or well... the abuser kills them. there was a story after the second video came out here that included a woman who went back to the guy abusing her at least 6 times and the relationship lasted 7 years. she even had her kids taken away because of it.

Godson
September 11th, 2014, 09:05 PM
Most women who are killed due to domestic violence is AFTER they have ended the relationship. Something like 75-80%.

I used to be of the mindset of never hitting a woman. Then I became an EMT and we were on tbe topic of being attacked while on call. My instructor told the class a great statement, "you are a woman, I will treat you as such until you act like a man. After you act like a man, I will treat you as such."

Is that sexist? Totally. At the same time thought, I feel a lot of people will play the victim card to take advantage of a situation, especially a high stress one. Hence the phrase. A lot of women in my area like to be the more traditional subserviant feminist role, but that is starting to change.

I'm with Mo on this one personally. I know I said he should be hung. But I feel that may have been a knee jerk reaction. Also, just because he hasn't had priors doesn't mean he hasn't done this previously. His attempt to carr/drag her out doesn't seem to be to well thought either. It is way easier and safer to drag a person from behind, towards their posterior side then to straddle.

Did ray use too much force, you bet your ass. But in a moment of heat like that, I question his level of judgment and conflict resolution in tense situations. Not a lot of people can make sound decisions in a split second.

neanderthal
September 11th, 2014, 11:59 PM
So.

We agree that Ray Rice is a four letter word. And that his wife is not exactly an innocent.

How about Goodell?

Being that they didn't have a super firm domestic abuse policy in place i'm tempted to give him a pass.
But, being that it looks like there was a coverup, i'd say he gots to go.

Mark Schlereth said something very poignant today; the backlash, the pain, should extend to everybody. The NFL and the owners shouldn't be insulated from these incidents if they continue to hire people with a shady past. Example, Aaron Hernandez.

21Kid
September 12th, 2014, 06:46 AM
I still don't see why Rice is being called and considered and "abuser" because of one incident. Does he have a history of physical abuse towards women? I'm just asking because I'm not that familiar with it and haven't heard all the facts. A lot of people can have a bad day and do something against their better judgment. Doesn't make them inherently a bad person. Granted he doesn't look good in the video. But, again, we don't know any of the details on what led up to it.

Jason
September 12th, 2014, 11:47 AM
If you rape a person once, you're a rapist. If you murder a person once, you're a murderer.

Mo, as far as I'm concerned, the person in power has the responsibility to not misuse their power when handling those with lesser power. Sure she took a swipe at him, but he was in no danger. If he was legitimately concerned, he could have restrained her by pinning her, until the elevator doors opened, then called for security. Instead he took a shot at her and knocked her out. That's abuse of power.

21Kid
September 12th, 2014, 12:32 PM
Good point.

Freude am Fahren
September 12th, 2014, 01:19 PM
Adrian Peterson indicted in Texas on charges of wreckless or negligent injury to a child.

GREAT month for the NFL

Jason
September 12th, 2014, 01:59 PM
Right before the Pats game too. :angry:

Er... I mean... uh...

Freude am Fahren
September 12th, 2014, 02:05 PM
Well, at least it's not right before the Texans or Cowboys game...

Jason
September 12th, 2014, 02:36 PM
I couldn't care less what happens to the Texans or Cowboys....

neanderthal
September 12th, 2014, 07:56 PM
If you rape a person once, you're a rapist. If you murder a person once, you're a murderer.

Mo, as far as I'm concerned, the person in power has the responsibility to not misuse their power when handling those with lesser power. Sure she took a swipe at him, but he was in no danger. If he was legitimately concerned, he could have restrained her by pinning her, until the elevator doors opened, then called for security. Instead he took a shot at her and knocked her out. That's abuse of power.

I want to agree with you. In fact, i'm 99.95 of the way there. My contention is this; where is the responsibility for the person NOT in power? Why are we excusing/ overlooking that same behaviour from them, as though it's ok. In Jay Zs example, absent security being there, he should have just stood there and tried to placate and restrain her? While she was going wild in a confined space?

I don't buy that. It's not ok for men to hit women. It's not ok for women to hit men. That's the standard.

It's not OK for someone to exert as much hurt on me as they can and all i do is try and make them not do it. And I can't hurt them back because I would hurt them more. That is ok thinking when you are dealing with a 4 year old but NOT with adults. One of the tenets of being an adult is being responsible for YOUR actions.

It is ok to defend yourself. I can't agree with anything that isn't that.

Jason
September 12th, 2014, 08:09 PM
I want to agree with you. In fact, i'm 99.95 of the way there. My contention is this; where is the responsibility for the person NOT in power? Why are we excusing/ overlooking that same behaviour from them, as though it's ok. In Jay Zs example, absent security being there, he should have just stood there and tried to placate and restrain her? While she was going wild in a confined space?

I don't buy that. It's not ok for men to hit women. It's not ok for women to hit men. That's the standard.

It's not OK for someone to exert as much hurt on me as they can and all i do is try and make them not do it. And I can't hurt them back because I would hurt them more. That is ok thinking when you are dealing with a 4 year old but NOT with adults. One of the tenets of being an adult is being responsible for YOUR actions.

It is ok to defend yourself. I can't agree with anything that isn't that.

Who said anything about it being ok?

I simply said those with power, when handling those without, need to show restraint. Just because someone with lesser power is trying to hurt you, doesn't mean you should use your superior power to dole out more than what is reasonable punishment. Rice knocking someone out who is clearly not a threat, to me, is unreasonable punishment. Was she in the wrong for going after him? Sure. Did it deserve being knocked out? Nope. Especially in the way that she was... she could have easily ended up with permanent brain damage, or worse.

In many ways, it's not a lot different than a well armed police officer using lethal means to deal with an unarmed person, it falls under the same category for me, and it's not something I'm comfortable with accepting.

Jason
September 12th, 2014, 08:16 PM
(I feel like maybe this discussion.... Ray Rice, and abuse, and all that, should maybe be split off into it's own thread)

21Kid
September 15th, 2014, 11:22 AM
Go Packers!!! Wooo!!!

Godson
September 15th, 2014, 01:09 PM
Hmmm. Seems succup wasn't so bad after all

Random
September 15th, 2014, 01:19 PM
Aggie update: Schmidt had a good day punting, with three inside the 20; Fells caught one of the two Giants TD passes. :up:

Jason
September 15th, 2014, 02:59 PM
Aggie update: Schmidt had a good day punting, with three inside the 20; Fells caught one of the two Giants TD passes. :up:

He's been absolutely astounding for us so far. We've been winning field position in a big way, and it's been a huge help in getting us to 2-0 so far. :up:

Godson
September 15th, 2014, 06:02 PM
Wow...


http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/-get-your-game-face-on-covergirl-ad-attacked-by-nfl-protesters--107162.html

KillerB
September 15th, 2014, 08:12 PM
816

SupraDupra
September 16th, 2014, 12:46 PM
How the hell does Foles look so awful and have such a solid stat line?! OH...Sproles. Wow.

Jason
September 21st, 2014, 12:10 PM
Classic Bills showed up today.

novicius
September 21st, 2014, 04:10 PM
Balls. :|

Packers defense looked damn good for the most part. Megatron was Megatron, however and A-Rodg dropped to 9-2 all-time against the Lions. Ah well, bring on the Bears! :rawk:

Godson
September 21st, 2014, 05:24 PM
Seahawks did good for me and Chiefs kingdom. The Chiefs didn't play well, but the defense showed up and made Miami go for plays they shouldn't have.

MR2 Fan
September 21st, 2014, 07:40 PM
I think the Bucs are the worst team in the league right now

Rikadyn
September 22nd, 2014, 12:11 AM
http://gfycat.com/BabyishMeanGangesdolphin

Bills didn't play bad, we're just rolling right now, plus you took another running back from us :|

Jason
September 22nd, 2014, 03:17 AM
Our defense played well enough to win that game, but EJ Manuel is the opposite of consistent, and can't seem to make plays when they are most sorely needed.

21Kid
September 22nd, 2014, 11:51 AM
Balls. :|

Packers defense looked damn good for the most part. Megatron was Megatron, however and A-Rodg dropped to 9-2 all-time against the Lions. Ah well, bring on the Bears! :rawk:
:smh: That was pathetic. The Lions were missing 4 DBs and their starting MLB. #12 should have had a career day. :smh:

Rikadyn
September 22nd, 2014, 10:14 PM
this is becoming a very brutal season on field and off...

novicius
September 29th, 2014, 07:49 AM
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/01.gif

:lol:

MR2 Fan
September 29th, 2014, 07:59 AM
watched the Bucs/Steelers game, had ROFLsberger as my QB for FF this week (backup as Russell Wilson on BYE week)

Do the refs hate the Steelers or what? Lots of penalties for taunting, excessive celebration, I think it was a bit much.

...then the Bucs somehow won the game. I think Mike Glennon is a good QB.

Jason
September 29th, 2014, 02:15 PM
Welp...

http://i.imgur.com/T6dE1Lz.gif

Jason
September 29th, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jesus, the entirety of the AFC East is just one giant dumpster fire.

Freude am Fahren
September 29th, 2014, 07:17 PM
:(

It may end up coming down to who doesn't suck worse, and everyone's invited. 9-7 will probably win it.

Godson
September 29th, 2014, 07:32 PM
I didn't see tonight coming.


:lol:

21Kid
September 30th, 2014, 12:23 PM
Wow. A few records set in the Bears Packers game this last weekend.

The Packers’ 38-17 win at Chicago was the 700th regular season win in franchise history and the Packers join the Bears (732) as the only teams to accomplish the feat.

Aaron Rodgers, who now has 25,196 career passing yards, reached 25,000 passing yards in 3,065 attempts, the fewest attempts in NFL history to reach the mark. Kurt Warner, who previously held the mark, reached 25,000 yards in 3,076 attempts.

There were zero combined punts in the Green Bay-Chicago game, making it just the second regular-season game in NFL history without a single punt (Buffalo vs. San Francisco, September 13, 1992). There has been one playoff game in NFL history with zero combined punts (Kansas City vs. Indianapolis, AFC Divisional, January 11, 2004). not really a record... but a cool statistic.

novicius
September 30th, 2014, 01:07 PM
GO PACK GO! :up: :up:

Jason
September 30th, 2014, 04:43 PM
:(

It may end up coming down to who doesn't suck worse, and everyone's invited. 9-7 will probably win it.
7-9 will win it.

novicius
October 2nd, 2014, 06:41 PM
What a wonderfully epic shellacking! :lol: #gopackgo

21Kid
October 3rd, 2014, 06:39 AM
:D Yeah.

novicius
October 3rd, 2014, 07:33 AM
The best part about beating the Vikings (:finger:) on Thursday night? 10 days to relish the absolute travesty of that game. :lol: :up: #gopackgo

Ponder was horrible, true, but their entire team just gave up after he threw the first interception. It could've been argued that the Vikings were holding fast at 14-0 and starting to put together their first scoring drive when Vikings RB Asiata coughed up the ball. They just collectively sat down after that. :smh:

Also-also, the Vikings D did initially hold the Packers O to 3 three-and-outs. Could'a been a game of it. #vikingsuck

21Kid
October 3rd, 2014, 09:19 AM
Yeah, yeah yeah... coulda, woulda, shoulda... :finger:

I've been spoiled early this year. With so many division games right off the bat, I've been able to watch the first 4 games. With the next few being against other divisions, it might be awhile before I'm able to watch another Packer game. :sadbanana: Stupid Chicago. Don't they know how many Packer fans live here. :(

TheBenior
October 3rd, 2014, 09:47 AM
Stupid Chicago. Don't they know how many Packer fans live here. :(

Yes, we do, but we know that most of them are bandwagoning assholes who jumped on the Favre train in the 1990s, so fuck them! :mad:

Serious answer: Yes, the NFL knows, and they want you to pay $240 or $340 for NFL Sunday Ticket or NFL Sunday Ticket MAX, or go to one of your local Packers bars that pay business rates for the NFL Sunday Ticket. That goes for you too, Steelers diaspora.

21Kid
October 3rd, 2014, 10:37 AM
Yeah... I know. :( Not possible through my cable company though. :( And kids don't want to sit in a bar for 3 hours. :sadbanana:

Random
October 3rd, 2014, 10:53 AM
Find a bar with video games. Or an air hockey table. :)

21Kid
October 3rd, 2014, 12:33 PM
Even I'd get bored with 3 hours of air hockey. :lol:

novicius
October 3rd, 2014, 01:19 PM
Truck'dd.

http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/5096588/Lacy_Helmet.gif

21Kid
October 3rd, 2014, 01:47 PM
That was awesome. :up:

Drachen596
October 3rd, 2014, 05:49 PM
no comments here about the FCC voting to end its sports blackout rules?

Jason
October 3rd, 2014, 06:58 PM
As far as I understand, it doesn't change a thing for the NFL, as they have private deals with the channels that host their games in place.

Drachen596
October 3rd, 2014, 07:10 PM
why was the NFL trying to keep them from voting to repeal it then?

Jason
October 3rd, 2014, 07:52 PM
Because now they have less of a legal argument when defending themselves. They still have a boat load of money they can throw around to get the results they want though. Maybe I'm just being cynical.

speedpimp
October 4th, 2014, 12:31 PM
Cynicism is awesome.

21Kid
October 6th, 2014, 06:03 AM
How do they keep a non-profit status? I thought you actually had to do something for the community in order to stay a non-profit?

Kchrpm
October 6th, 2014, 06:13 AM
AFAIK the NFL is non-profit because they're just the management group for all the teams. All of their profits are distributed to the teams, who are taxed.

21Kid
October 6th, 2014, 06:26 AM
Oh, so just pay the boss $42 million, so the company doesn't make a profit? Seems legit! I need to start up a "non-profit" business and just pay myself all the money.

Kchrpm
October 6th, 2014, 06:37 AM
There are several non-profit charities where the executives have very lucrative salaries.

Drachen596
October 7th, 2014, 12:12 AM
not for profit just means they don't turn a profit. all the money coming in goes right back out. think you have to file some sort of paperwork with the IRS though since i remember that if you were self employed and didn't show a profit within a specific number of years it got labeled a hobby instead.(disclaimer, this was like 8 years ago and i may be wrong)

also, Chicago.. seriously?

Rikadyn
October 7th, 2014, 12:23 AM
different class of 501 non profit. Public Universities are non-profits and shit how much does a president get :P

Drachen596
October 7th, 2014, 03:33 AM
in NFL news... Adrian Peterson is apparently in a bit more trouble than just the child abuse allegations.

Random
October 9th, 2014, 02:10 PM
"The Detroit Lions (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/det/detroit-lions) have banned the fan who allegedly shined a laser pointer into the eyes of Bills (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills) quarterback Kyle Orton (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8520/kyle-orton) and holder Colton Schmidt (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/16623/colton-schmidt) during the Bills' 17-14 victory Sunday."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11669862/police-catch-alleged-laser-culprit-detroit-lions-game

George
October 9th, 2014, 03:31 PM
^^^ What a dope!

You can get away with nearly anything in life if you just stay quiet about it.

Drachen596
October 9th, 2014, 11:52 PM
Peterson is in more trouble now than he even was before.

i guess just before a drug test he admitted to smoking some pot.

TheBenior
October 12th, 2014, 03:17 PM
Not sure if Bears' defensive line is playing that well, or if Falcons' offensive line is playing that badly...

Rikadyn
October 12th, 2014, 03:34 PM
fuck the raiders.

novicius
October 12th, 2014, 07:54 PM
Go Pack Go! :rawk:

Freude am Fahren
October 12th, 2014, 08:45 PM
Benched Nick Foles for Eli Manning two minutes before kickoff. Hashtag winning. Cost me the week.

MR2 Fan
October 13th, 2014, 03:37 AM
I have Victor Cruz on my fantasy team :(

Rikadyn
October 13th, 2014, 04:19 AM
Not anymore you don't

novicius
October 13th, 2014, 05:20 AM
Not Even His Receivers Knew Aaron Rodgers's Fake Spike Was Coming (http://deadspin.com/not-even-his-receivers-knew-aaron-rodgerss-fake-spike-w-1645617118)


"I was looking at Davante Adams,'' Rodgers said from the Packers' bus, on the way to the Fort Lauderdale airport late Sunday afternoon, "but he wasn't looking at me. In a situation like that, you want to make eye-contact so he knows something might be coming. But not this time. He didn't know what I was going to do."
:up:

21Kid
October 13th, 2014, 06:15 AM
Neither did the defense. :D

ettsn
October 14th, 2014, 03:42 AM
I'm trying to figure out who's enjoying this season? I know fans of almost every team, and almost every single one seems disappointed. Injuries, losses to rivals, something. Even the Cowboys fans I know, while happy they are overachieving, are waiting for the other shoe to drop. Are we so jaded now that anything short of a Super Bowl is failure?

I know my Falcons have me in the doldrums a little bit, but man, everyone seems so down on their teams too?

Jason
October 14th, 2014, 04:45 AM
Uh, yes, everything short of Super Bowl victory is deemed a failure in he NFL, and amongst most fans. It's a win now league. Hence why coaches, QBs, rookies, etc all have extremely short leashes most of the time.

Bills fans are already wanting their 2nd year HC fired, their 2nd year GM fired, their 2nd year QB to be let go... calling their rookie WR a bust, etc etc

21Kid
October 14th, 2014, 06:37 AM
I am. :D

I doubt they will go far. But, that last game was very entertaining at least. :cool:

novicius
October 14th, 2014, 07:01 AM
Uh, yes, everything short of Super Bowl victory is deemed a failure in he NFL, and amongst most fans.
Seems to be the truth -- what happened to incremental goals?? :lol:

Fuck that -- let me proudly state here that I *loved* the Packers' 8-7-1 campaign of 2013. :up: :up: That was some fantastic must-see-TV sports drama! Without A-Rodg being knocked out and game after game of fumbling around to build a replacement QB combined, gutting out some wins (and a tie!) with Eddie Lacy's great freshman season, that's just a great storyline.

Then, to have our Field General back for the final game against the Bears in Week 17 and win the NFC North Division like this?

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3782199/cOBB_td_large.gif

Oh hells yeah! :hard: #superbowlshmuperbowl

Jason
October 14th, 2014, 05:18 PM
Yeah, I'm enjoying the Bills 3-3 season so far, Orton is entertaining to watch, he reminds me of Ryan Fitzpatrick, in that he tries stupid tight throws at times, which makes me mad sometimes, but mostly I'm like "fuck it, awesome, yolo, pornstache, werkit" and the Bills D is pretty hoss most weeks. :up:

Rikadyn
October 14th, 2014, 10:41 PM
I'm only mildly worried about making the playoffs...

Godson
October 15th, 2014, 09:07 PM
I could care less this season. Almost nobody is talking chiefs in kc right now. For good reasons too. Royals are in the world series.

MR2 Fan
October 17th, 2014, 02:49 PM
Fantasy Football update: I picked up Jermaine Kearse a few days ago to replace Victor Cruz....now Percy Harvin traded to the Jets....my new pick might just pay off! :D

novicius
October 19th, 2014, 02:19 PM
So over the past 16 quarters of play the Packers are +81 pts. Not too shabby. :rawk: #gopackgo

Rikadyn
October 19th, 2014, 03:55 PM
Having your second and third string secondary starting doesn't bode well. Chief's took the chargers game plan and ran with it

Jason
October 19th, 2014, 04:56 PM
Kyle Orton is gonna give me a heart attack.

Godson
October 20th, 2014, 08:17 PM
I lost in my fantasy league by a point. Doesn't touch keefs tie, but one effing point...

GB
October 23rd, 2014, 12:33 PM
QUICK! HELP!

FANTASY ADVICE:
Who should I start tonight, Eddie Royal or Wes Welker?

George
October 23rd, 2014, 02:55 PM
Welker, of course. :up:

Freude am Fahren
October 23rd, 2014, 03:35 PM
Royal is trending down. Welker appears to be trending up.

So start Royal if you have my luck :p

But really, I think you have to start Welker.

Sometimes guys come out big against their former team. But as a WR, if you're not targeted, you can't do much about that, and that's what's going on with Royal.

novicius
October 27th, 2014, 10:13 AM
Teeth kicked in @ the Big Easy. :smh: #gopackgo

Freude am Fahren
October 27th, 2014, 02:53 PM
That was surprising. You gotta give credit to Bob Ryan and the Saint's D, they had a great plan, and it worked. They also got a bit lucky with Rogers being a bit gimpy. Had he been 100% in the legs, he probably could have gotten some yards on the ground, and force the Saints to play softer on the receivers.

MR2 Fan
October 27th, 2014, 03:14 PM
my FF team had won 6 games in a row, but Russell Wilson bombed this week, and I had ROFLsberger on the bench....if only...

Freude am Fahren
October 27th, 2014, 03:30 PM
Yeah, I had him on my bench too. Definite win if I played him (obviously). As it stands, I need Pierre Garcon to get like 15 points.

Freude am Fahren
October 27th, 2014, 04:12 PM
By the way, why was there not a :10 runoff on the Lions delay of game? I only saw highlights, was it because the game clock was stopped before the play?

Kchrpm
October 27th, 2014, 07:06 PM
Yeah, if the clock isn't running, there's no time runoff.

Freude am Fahren
October 28th, 2014, 07:42 AM
A lot of people who don't know the sport that well (since it did happen in England), complained about how they got a second try on a missed FG because of their own penalty. But really the first kick technically never happened. Had they made the first "attempt," and missed the second, no one would have noticed.

GreatScawt
October 31st, 2014, 05:13 AM
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/10/halloween-nfl-logos.html

Rikadyn
October 31st, 2014, 05:53 AM
...chargers...

MR2 Fan
October 31st, 2014, 05:55 AM
The rams one is scariest IMO

overpowered
November 2nd, 2014, 09:41 PM
Wow. So many posts about today's Charger's game on FB. Many people upset. Glad I didn't watch it.

Rikadyn
November 2nd, 2014, 11:19 PM
Wow. So many posts about today's Charger's game on FB. Many people upset. Glad I didn't watch it.

Yea from what I heard it was an out and out dumpster fire.

Godson
November 3rd, 2014, 06:37 AM
From an immediate opposing teams standpoint, it still wasn't good

Rikadyn
November 4th, 2014, 01:19 AM
I'm just glad i didn't stay up for it...then I'd be really fucking pissed.

novicius
November 10th, 2014, 11:52 AM
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/01.gif

:lol:
:lol:

Freude am Fahren
November 11th, 2014, 09:21 AM
http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/10810029_741606942585830_1694610171_n.jpg

KillerB
November 11th, 2014, 03:18 PM
:lol:

novicius
November 16th, 2014, 08:56 PM
Back-to-back 50+ pts, the first time in Packers franchise history -- bring on the Vikings... :twisted: #gopackgo

Just a lil' highlight reel from the Iggles game:

http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/nef2aVFf7zHsZ_Irp9aeXHNgHaA=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2463600/lacy2.0.0.gif

#oldschool #throwbackuniformsrule

Godson
November 17th, 2014, 08:29 AM
And the chiefs take down the former Superbowl champions.
#boom

Jason
November 18th, 2014, 03:44 AM
Bills will probably lose to the Jets this weekend to complete the collapse. :|