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LHutton
April 23rd, 2014, 03:45 AM
]Volkswagen Golf R 400 concept unveiled in Beijing | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/86656/volkswagen-golf-r-400-concept-unveiled-in-beijing)

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Volkswagen reveals the VW Golf R 400 concept at Beijing Motor Show 2014

VW has unveiled a new Golf R 400 concept, at the Beijing Motor Show. The concept marks 40 years since the VW Golf was first launched, with VW claiming it ***8216;reflects the sporty potential of the model series.

The car boasts a power to weight ration of 3.4bhp per kilo - "racing car figures," according to Volkswagen member of the board of management, Dr Heinz-Jakob Neusser. And he dropped a hint that the car could make production at some stage when he said: "What we have to do now is build it."

Retaining the iconic Golf shape, the low slung concept rides on a new 19-inch alloy wheel design and sits 40mm wider than the standard model. At the front there***8217;s a more menacing bumper design with carbon effect inserts, while a high-gloss black radiator grille with yellow R detailing has also been added. The subtly flared wheel arches are also said to be inspired by the 1988 Rallye Golf G60.

Volkswagen Golf R 400 show rear
Based on the standard Golf R, the concept features the same 2.0-litre TSI engine but it has been heavily revised to produce 395bhp and 450Nm of torque ***8211; up from the standard model***8217;s 296bhp and 380Nm output. Power is put down via a six-speed dual clutch DSG gearbox and permanent Haldex all-wheel drive system. The performance boost is enough to slash a second off the sprint from 0-62, now complete in 3.9 seconds. Top speed has also increased to 174mph.

At the rear, new warp-around motorsport carbon effect splitters merge with the protruding diffuser and two central exhausts pipes replace the quad tailpipe setup on the standard Golf R ***8211; harking back to the design of the 2002 Golf R32. A black roof and carbon fibre mirror caps complete the extreme look.

The motorsport theme is continued inside, with Alcantara and carbon leather bucket seats. The seats, steering wheel, door cards and floor mats are also trimmed in decorative yellow stitching. A glossy carbon fibre finish has been applied to accents on the dash and centre console.

Yw-slayer
April 23rd, 2014, 07:26 PM
Tarted up Golf, yay?

thesameguy
April 23rd, 2014, 07:52 PM
Pretty decent performance, I'd say.

Though I don't see why it's the R400 and not the R395.

LHutton
April 24th, 2014, 02:44 AM
Pretty decent performance, I'd say.

Though I don't see why it's the R400 and not the R395.
400PS = 395hp. PS = metric horsepower.

Godson
April 24th, 2014, 04:35 AM
Tarted up Golf, yay?

You can polish a turd...

Yw-slayer
April 24th, 2014, 06:05 AM
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the Golf is a bad car. It just doesn't excite me.

thesameguy
April 24th, 2014, 11:09 AM
400PS = 395hp. PS = metric horsepower.

Be that as it may, it says "395bhp and 450Nm."

Crazed_Insanity
April 24th, 2014, 11:41 AM
The engine probably theoretically produced 400HP right when the gasoline detonates... it's just that drivetrain friction losses cost extra 5hp at the wheel bearing?

If it were 394HP, then I'd probably say that they're being insincere. At 395, I can let them round up to 400. ;)

Anyway, nice car..., but why would anyone want a 400HP subcompact hatchback?

Rare White Ape
April 24th, 2014, 01:39 PM
Yeah, nobody needs a car that goes faster than 60mph...

(Sign me up)

Dicknose
April 24th, 2014, 02:31 PM
Be that as it may, it says "395bhp and 450Nm."

Is the article written in German?

thesameguy
April 24th, 2014, 02:45 PM
It read like English to me. I don't speak German, so if it was, it's a damn miracle I understood a word of it.

Aren't ze Germans supposed to be using kw, though?

Dicknose
April 24th, 2014, 05:14 PM
It's a UK story, so they use their common power term.
And technically the EU is suppose to use kW. I believe it's a legal requirement and that PS or HP can only be a secondary unit.
Of cause that does stop it being used in media or even sales stuff (or picking a model name)
Quick look at some UK car sites, they seem to go with kW (hp)
Eg Porsche Boxter 232 kW (315 hp) at 6,700 rpm
Or the .de version 232 kW (315 PS) bei 6.700 1/min

So Porsche don't seem to care, they say "hp" rather than bhp and use the metric hp.
Anyway it's just a model number.

novicius
April 25th, 2014, 05:28 AM
Tits. :up:

Love the practicality and the power -- although the 2014 GT-R will do 0-60 MPH in 2.9 seconds, so I guess that means no buy. :assclown:

LHutton
April 26th, 2014, 07:11 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower#Metric_horsepower_.28PS.2C_cv.2C_hk.2C_ pk.2C_ks.2C_ch.29


The various units used to indicate this definition (PS, cv, hk, pk, ks and ch) all translate to horse power in English, so it is common to see these values referred to as horsepower or hp in the press releases or media coverage of the German, French, Italian, and Japanese automobile companies. British manufacturers often intermix metric horsepower and mechanical horsepower depending on the origin of the engine in question. Sometimes the metric horsepower rating of an engine is conservative enough so that the same figure can be used for both 80/1269/EEC with metric hp and SAE J1349 with imperial hp.

DIN 66036 defines one metric horsepower as the power to raise a mass of 75 kilograms against the earth's gravitational force over a distance of one metre in one second;[14] this is equivalent to 735.49875 W or 98.6% of an imperial mechanical horsepower.

In 1972, the PS was rendered obsolete by EEC directives, when it was replaced by the kilowatt as the official power measuring unit.[15] It is still in use for commercial and advertising purposes, in addition to the kW rating, as many customers are still not familiar with the use of kilowatts for engines.

Ali
May 16th, 2014, 05:13 AM
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the Golf is a bad car. It just doesn't excite me.

It's like the new Evo FQ440. A nice enough basic car that's a bit overhyped, taken too far and then with a laugh out loud price tag attached to it! I had my name on the FQ440 until they told me it was £50k. I quickly withdrew!

Yw-slayer
May 16th, 2014, 10:24 AM
At 50K, that's more like FJ440. Unless you need 4WD and a boot, at that price it's Cayman S, there you go... or even an STI hatch and a used 911.

Ali
May 16th, 2014, 02:53 PM
I've done the STI hatch m8. It blew up within 20,000 miles. Wouldn't touch another EJ25 with a VERY long bargepole! And I tried the Cayman and just found it a bit sterile. If I were buying a 2 seater at £50k, it'd be a used DB9 or GranTurismo.

Yw-slayer
May 16th, 2014, 04:47 PM
Didn't you crank up the turbo on the STI hatch big-time? Anyway, I was only looking at New. If you're looking at used then, yeah, there's loads of stuff on the market for 50K.

Ali
May 18th, 2014, 05:01 AM
Nope, Prodrive did. It was a 330S model. I never tune my cars. I like warranties too much! Though even stock hatches were blowing engines. The Evo can take more power but 440bhp is really pushing it. The SST box can only take 400lbft according to most tuners so what Mitsubishi UK are doing to strengthen it is a mystery!

Yw-slayer
May 18th, 2014, 06:14 AM
Strange. Ah well.

Ali
May 18th, 2014, 06:29 AM
There are massive threads on all the Subaru forums about the 2008 on ringland failures. Subaru refuse to admit it's a problem but the truth is, the EJ25 should never have been made into an STI. It was supposed to be a workhorse engine for the Legacy and Forester and never tuned to the degree it has been lately. The JDM 2.0 litres are unburstable but we never got those as an option and grey imports are just too expensive nowadays. I did look to the GTR but, at my price range, they're all out of warranty and that's a very scary thought!!!

Yw-slayer
May 18th, 2014, 06:37 AM
Good thing my Legacy has a JDM 2.0L. ;)

Used C63?

Ali
May 18th, 2014, 10:51 AM
Before the CX7 we had a Legacy Tourer 2.0 and it was a fantastic car. I keep looking at C63s but part of my daily driver needs is something that does better than the 23mpg the Evo manages! And that doesn't cost £500 a year and rising in road tax!

Yw-slayer
May 18th, 2014, 06:08 PM
I guess the A45 fits the bill then. I hope you enjoy it, for your sake!

Ali
May 19th, 2014, 02:46 AM
Trying to organise a test this week. Wasn't a fan of its gearbox at launch but the salesman promised (haha) that it's much better after a software update. Though the Alfa still appeals......

The Golf R400 is currently rumoured to be £50k though, which is laugh out loud funny.

Yw-slayer
May 19th, 2014, 08:01 AM
Yeah, the R400 at 50K is definitely one for the Lulz. Although even given what you said in the other thread, I still can't believe you're complaining about reliability and considering an Alfa.

Ali
May 19th, 2014, 09:39 AM
Is anything well built now? Beyond the Honda Jazz, that is?

Yw-slayer
May 19th, 2014, 05:54 PM
2.0L Susie engines. :D