Forza Horizon 2

[Kchrpm]

I know some of you have been waiting for it, and it's just been announced.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/02/ign-first-forza-horizon-2-announced

http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2014/05/30/anthemkeyarthorizontalv2rgbjpg-dcff4a_610w.jpg

Set in southern Europe and has a weather system.

[GreatScawt]

Really stoked! I loved Horizon.

But... XBox One AND 360? I guess because it's Playground games, they have to do a port? Since owning an X1, I've been more interested in games developed ONLY for that console. But hey, beggars can't be choosers.

[thesameguy]

I'm definitely in for this. I wonder (hope), will X360 and X1 games connect to each other?

[thesameguy]

Since owning an X1, I've been more interested in games developed ONLY for that console. But hey, beggars can't be choosers.

You are kind of getting your wish:


UPDATE: To clarify, the Playground Games is developing solely for the Xbox One version, using Forza Motorsport 5's graphics engine as a baseline. The Xbox 360 version is being handled separately by Sumo Digital.

[Kchrpm]

will X360 and X1 games connect to each other?
Highly unlikely, especially with the additional information you just provided.

[thesameguy]

Yeah, thinking the same thing. Sounds like the X360 version is going to be a fairly different game.

[GreatScawt]

You are kind of getting your wish:

Nice! Yeah, I was referencing the article pre-update. Good to know. Definitely more excited now.

[Phil_SS]

Southern Europe! Hell to the fucking yeah! I'm guessing it will be based around Monaco and the French Riviera.

[Jason]

I'll miss Coolerado, but looking forward to it. :up:

Will be interesting to see what version gets reviewed better... the cynic in me thinks the 360 version will be a crap fest, to help nudge people to the Xbone. "Oh, yeah the frame rate and xyz suck because of the 360 limitations, we tried, but if you want a good gaming experience, you should be a XBONE"

[novicius]

Even if it's a shitshow on the 360, I'm still in. :assclown:

Lovin' the fact that I don't have to upgrade until Destiny 2/FH3/GTA6 at this point. :rawk:

(But yeah Kid, I am finally leaning more towards a Kinect-less XBONE over a PS4 at this point.)

[novicius]

Forza Horizon 2 Runs at 1080p and 30fps on Xbox One, Dev Confirms (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forza-Horizon-2-Runs-at-1080p-and-30fps-on-Xbox-One-Dev-Confirms-445383.shtml)


"I think what we did on Horizon was demonstrate that, and this is really important, a locked frame rate that’s absolutely solid and never drops is the most important thing for our game. 30 [frames-per-second] actually enables us to realize that experience. I think I remember that’s always a hot-button topic, until a game comes out and people go, 'Oh, this actually really works.' But 1080p was an absolute must for us; it’s the benchmark for next-gen."

[Creative Director Ralph] Fulton emphasized that Forza Motorsport 5 wasn't an open world game, as it loaded just the current circuit and the surroundings, without worrying about the rest of the possible levels in the game. Forza Horizon 2, however, has an open world, which can be explored by players in any way they want, including at high speeds.

"The biggest difference is that, obviously, we’re an open-world streaming game. We need to be able to drive in any direction at up to 270 miles an hour. So one of the big technical challenges that we had to face was making sure that we could stream in a world that is next-gen beautiful, but fast enough to keep up with the fastest car."
Also, Drivatars are back... so you can have your open-ish world game play itself.

[21Kid]

(But yeah Kid, I am finally leaning more towards a Kinect-less XBONE over a PS4 at this point.)

http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/706/705709/darkside2.jpg

[Kchrpm]

Lovin' the fact that I don't have to upgrade until Destiny 2/FH3/GTA6 at this point. :rawk:
You forgot one.

[novicius]

SW: Battlefront? Summer 2015. :up:

[Kchrpm]

Horizon 2 will be taking a big risk and launching WITHOUT microtransactions to unlock vehicles :eek:

http://www.joystiq.com/2014/06/18/forza-horizon-2-to-debut-without-microtransaction-tokens/?ncid=rss_truncated


Though these "tokens" were an omnipresent hallmark of Forza Motorsport 5, developer Playground Games prefers to grant players new cars based on their in-game performance, instead of their meatspace bank accounts. "The approach we've taken is that we've designed our game at Playground Games from the ground up to be fair, to be fun, to be rewarding," creative director Ralph Fulton told Digital Spy. "That's incredibly important to us. For that reason, we will launch in September without tokens."

The idea, Fulton claims, is to offer players the ability to switch vehicles on a whim without having to spend real money to do so. "We want to enable you, at very regular intervals, to be able to change your car, pick a new one from the list," Fulton said. "If that doesn't work out, you're able to buy a new one really quickly."

That idea is SO crazy, it just might work.

[21Kid]

So, money will come really easy? :(

[Kchrpm]

Not sure about speed of money, but you can win a random car when leveling up.


He also said that players can gain early access to premium vehicles through a "fruit machine, tombola-style" system as seen in the original's online multiplayer.

"When you do level up, we give you a shot at what we call 'The Horizon Wheel Spin'," he explained.

"We used it in the original in online, and you get to spin and it can be anything from some cash, a load of cash, to a car or to the best car in the game.

"Every time you level up we've got this game of chance, and for the lucky guys, they could be a getting a Bugatti Veyron after playing the game for 30 minutes."

[GreatScawt]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/give_it_to_me_stephen_colbert.gif

[21Kid]

I was just going off of the last part of that quote...

"We want to enable you, at very regular intervals, to be able to change your car, pick a new one from the list," Fulton said. "If that doesn't work out, you're able to buy a new one really quickly."

Sounds to me that money will be pretty easy to come by.

[Kchrpm]

Oh, I thought that meant they would be *available* to buy very quickly, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[21Kid]

I guess so. :)

[Jason]

I bet he gets fired, and the token system gets pushed. ;)

[Kchrpm]

Haha, Greenawalt shows up, "what did he tell you? HAHAHA no, all cars are premium DLC!"

[Kchrpm]

http://jalopnik.com/forza-horizon-2s-car-list-is-looking-pretty-awesome-so-1608956670

List of first 100 cars

1. 2002 Acura RSX Type-S

2. 2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione

3. 2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde

4. 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde

5. 1964 Aston Martin DB5

6. 2010 Aston Martin One-77

7. 2012 Aston Martin Vanquish

8. 2013 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus 5.2 FSI quattro

9. 1995 Audi RS 2 Avant

10. 2006 Audi RS 4

11. 2011 Audi RS 5 Coupé

12. 2013 Audi S4

13. 1997 BMW M3

14. 1991 BMW M3

15. 2012 BMW M5

16. 2011 BMW X5 M

17. 1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z

18. 1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

19. 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

20. 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454

21. 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray

22. 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1

23. 1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1

24. 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS 409

25. 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T

26. 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8

27. 1957 Ferrari 250 California

28. 1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa

29. 1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta

30. 2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta

31. 2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia

32. 2013 Ferrari LaFerrari

33. 1980 Abarth Fiat 131

34. 2010 Abarth 500 esseesse

35. 2013 Abarth Punto Supersport

36. 2009 Ford Focus RS

37. 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302

38. 2000 Ford SVT Cobra R

39. 1993 Ford SVT Cobra R

40. 1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

41. 2011 Ford Transit SuperSportVan

42. 1997 Honda Civic Type R

43. 2006 HUMMER H1 Alpha

44. 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

45. 1956 Jaguar D-Type

46. 1961 Jaguar E-type S1

47. 1954 Jaguar XK120 SE

48. 1945 Jeep Willys MB

49. 2011 Koenigsegg Agera

50. 1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV

51. 2014 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4

52. 1982 Lancia 037 Stradale

53. 2013 Lexus GS350 F Sport

54. 2010 Lexus LFA

55. 1956 Lotus Eleven

56. 2012 Lotus Exige S

57. 2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S

58. 1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata

59. 2011 Mazda RX-8 R3

60. 2013 McLaren P1

61. 2013 Mercedes-Benz A 45 AMG

62. 2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series

63. 2009 Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series

64. 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG

65. 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG

66. 1965 MINI Cooper S

67. 1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR

68. 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR

69. 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR

70. 2010 Nissan 370Z

71. 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432

72. 1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo

73. 2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R

74. 1971 Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R

75. 1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec

76. 2012 Pagani Huayra

77. 2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster

78. 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge

79. 1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455

80. 1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA

81. 1973 Renault Alpine A110 1600S

82. 2003 Renault Sport Clio V6

83. 2010 Renault Megane RS 250

84. 2011 RUF Rt 12 S

85. 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C

86. 1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi

87. 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI

88. 2011 Subaru WRX STI

89. 1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205

90. 2013 Toyota GT86

91. 1995 Toyota MR2 GT

92. 2005 TVR Sagaris

93. 2012 Vauxhall Astra VXR

94. 2009 Vauxhall Corsa VXR

95. 2013 SRT Viper GTS

96. 1992 Volkswagen Golf Gti 16v Mk2

97. 2010 Volkswagen Golf R

98. 1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI

99. 2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R

100. 1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe

[GreatScawt]

UH UH YEAH
2011 Subaru WRX STI

Probably will be a sedan, though, like last game.

[thesameguy]

Looks good! I am very into this game so far!

[Jason]

No NSXs :(

[thesameguy]

True, but it does have an RSX. You could probably squish way down in the seat and pretend. ;)

[novicius]

39. 1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
I'm in. :cool: :up:

P.S. - A much higher res image can be found here (http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Forza-Horizon-2-s-First-100-Cars-Revealed-All-Built-from-the-Ground-Up-451800-2.jpg).

[Freude am Fahren]

The silhouettes for all the others are clearly a P1, Huayra and R35 GT-R, but only the former two have actual images in the list. Probably safe to assume the GT-R will be in there as well.

[Kchrpm]

More cars announced

http://jalopnik.com/even-more-sweet-cars-for-forza-horizon-2-1616379675


1992 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EVO

1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II

2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

2012 Hennessey Venom GT

2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8

2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe

1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe

1971 Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI

1977 Ford Escort RS1800

2013 Mazda MX-5

1970 Nissan Datsun 510

1980 Renault 5 Turbo

1974 Toyota Celica GT

2003 Volkswagen Golf R32

1983 Audi Sport quattro

[thesameguy]

Fantastic.

[Kchrpm]

http://news.xbox.com/2014/07/games-forza-horizon-2-car-list-2

1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2
2011 BMW Z4 sDrive35is
2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
1971 AMC Javelin AMX
2011 Audi RS 3 Sportback|
1999 SRT Viper GTS ACR
2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
1986 Lancia Delta S4
1997 Mazda RX-7
2012 MINI John Cooper Works GP
1995 RUF CTR2
2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6

[GreatScawt]

Quick look at the image captures, should I be expecting Forza 5 graphic fidelity? Because I don't QUITE see Forza 5 graphic fidelity. I thought this game took an FPS hit to maintain looks and dynamic map loading.

Maybe I'm being picky. It does look *pretty effing* good, though. :up:

[thesameguy]

Has there been any info on retailer-specific bonus versions? Those annoy the shit out of me.

[thesameguy]

Hmmm... maybe just a Day One Edition? +2014 Ford Fiesta ST, 2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392, and the 2014 Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG

I think I'm going to throw a preorder on Amazon...

[Jason]

Still no NSX :(

[Freude am Fahren]

Someone should tell them SRT has been folded back into Dodge. I hated seeing gen I-IV Vipers listed as SRT in games.

[Kchrpm]

RALLY FIGHTER!!!! :rawk:

http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/rally-fighter-looks-spectacular-in-forza-horizon-2-digi-1621725062/1622126785/+pgeorge

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/zzvzhqtaa0adkl3uhkve.jpg

[thesameguy]

I hope they include more rallies in the base edition, and I hope they are better than they were in the first. Just hopes - certainly not deal breakers.

[GreatScawt]

Okay, yeah, this game is gorgeous. Night time, raining, and rallying. Fuck yes.

[thesameguy]

I am torn between buying from a retail store and getting a free car, and buying from Microsoft and getting XBL$10. I don't think a Ferrari California is worth $10, so I'm inclined to buy from the MS store - probably use that $10 for DLC.

[GreatScawt]

Same... I may have to do that soon.

Not that you're considering this (and maybe someone posted this already), but they announced at Gamescom that you will be able to pre-order and pre-load games (ala Steam) on X1. Horizon 2 and Fifa will be the first couple of games you can do that with.

[thesameguy]

I actually did consider it, but after the GTAV fiasco on the X360 I am not going to risk downloading xbox games. I don't want to risk having a different, glitchy, lower-quality game because I didn't get a physical copy. :(

I did preorder from the Microsoft Store. Seems there is definitely no LCE, and so I might as well get the Day One and "save" ten bucks.

[GreatScawt]

Giddy up. I think I'll do the same shortly.

[Freude am Fahren]

Any clear summary on the various ways to buy this, and what comes with what from where? I hate the whole exclusive car from various retailers thing, but I might as well pick out the one I like. This will probably be the game that finally makes me get an XBone. Maybe....

D'OH! There's a second page. Looks like MS Store offering $10 is a good deal. What about the other options?

Also, as far as I've seen, the Fanatec wheels don't work on the XBone yet, right?

[Jason]

I'm thinking Forza, Forza Horizon, GTA and maybe something else, when/if I get an Xbone during the holidays. :)

[thesameguy]

D'OH! There's a second page. Looks like MS Store offering $10 is a good deal. What about the other options?

The options are nothing, one of three cars from various retailers (Ferrari California, BMW M6 Coupe, and something else), or XBL$10 from the Microsoft Store. There is a car bonus for pre-ordering that is a few cars. That's it.

[Kchrpm]

http://www.joystiq.com/2014/08/19/forza-horizon-2-adds-28-more-cars-to-its-extensive-roster/?ncid=rss_truncated

1973 Ford Capri RS3100
1962 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso
2011 Aston Martin V12 Zagato (Villa d’Este)
2012 Bowler EXR S
1993 McLaren F1
2010 Audi TT RS Coupe
1957 Chevrolet Bel Air
2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
2004 Honda Civic Type-R
2013 Hyundai Veloster Turbo
2013 KTM X-Bow R
1992 Nissan Silvia CLUB K's

[thesameguy]

I had to look up what a Bowler EXR-S was. Nutso!

I am very excited about the solid list of older cars. I'm hoping for some more '70s and '80s machines, but it's a very defensible list as-is.

[GreatScawt]

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/fh2_car_reveals

Jason may like this week's car reveals.

[Jason]

Woohoo!

And a Civic Type R also!

[Jason]

And a Ford Transit?!

*fap*

[GreatScawt]

I so badly want to sacrifice an old-school Beetle to the Stance-Nation Gods

[novicius]

Forza Horizon 2 Xbox One Demo Launches on September 16 (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forza-Horizon-2-Xbox-One-Demo-Launches-on-September-16-456619.shtml)


The free trial is set to debut for the Xbox One platform on September 16. As of yet, it's unlikely that an Xbox 360 version of the demo will appear.

"Explore the beauty of southern Europe in a handful of the world’s most beautiful cars in this demo, which has been designed to give you a brief taste of what to expect when Forza Horizon 2 launches."

After two weeks, on September 30, the full-fledged version of the game is going to be released on Xbox One and Xbox 360.
Boo to no 360 demo of course but :up: to the fact that there's a demo at all.

[Freude am Fahren]

A 360 demo would be nice, for those of us pondering purchasing the XBone for, among others, this game.

[novicius]

Forza Horizon 2 Is Now Gold, Gets Fresh 13-Minute Gameplay Video (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forza-Horizon-2-Is-Now-Gold-Gets-Fresh-13-Minute-Gameplay-Video-458951.shtml)


In honor of the great moment, a brand new video with 13 minutes of pure gameplay footage has just been released online, showing off some of the early moments of the game, in which players drive the impressive Lamborghini Huracan to the Horizon festival.

The footage was recorded on the Xbox One platform, but Horizon 2 is also coming to the Xbox 360 with the same amount of features, albeit with a lower visual performance.

Don't forget that today, September 16, a Forza Horizon 2 demo will be available for download on the Xbox One platform.
:up:

[Jason]

As much as it's fun having OMG DRIVER VIEW REALISM, I really wish they would do a decent bumper cam with rear view up top, and a side mirror window on each side.

[21Kid]

I too, prefer the bumber cam.

[GreatScawt]

Demo is out, X1 bros.

[21Kid]

I thought you could start downloading remotely? I'll have to do it when I get home. :(

[21Kid]

The demo was really fun. I'm excited to play the full game!

not deleted. will play again.

[novicius]

Cool beans. :cool: :up:

[Kchrpm]

Is anyone getting this for 360? I'm considering it.

[GreatScawt]

MS says my copy is shipped. Due to arrive tomorrow. Excite!

[novicius]

I'm probably just going to waltz to my local Target and pick up a copy. Anyone find confirmation that Forza 5 paint jobs will transfer to Forza Horizon 2?

[21Kid]

No... But, the reviews on FH2 are coming in really good. :)

[thesameguy]

GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY GIGGITY

[SkylineObsession]

Breeeeaaaattttthhhheeeee

;)

[GreatScawt]

GIGGITY

:D

This will be waiting at home for me today, but I'll probably only get it installed tonight. I'll likely be on tomorrow.

[novicius]

Yep, my evening is booked so I doubt I'll get it installed and be playing tonight (but if I can, I will!). :rawk:

[Phil_SS]

I saw about a 5-6 min video review of the Xbone version of the game and it looked amazing. Definitely jealous.

#TDUforever #3DONeedForSpeed

[21Kid]

I may boot up and update/install it... But, I don't know if I'll have much time to play. We'll see.

[thesameguy]

Assuming no work catastrophes, tonight is on reserve for FH2! Am excite!

[novicius]

I saw about a 5-6 min video review of the Xbone version of the game and it looked amazing. Definitely jealous.

#TDUforever #3DONeedForSpeed
It is this, all of this. :up: :up:

Picked it up at lunch and installed it; played a bit when it hit 22% before heading back to work.

The intro is cool -- dropped into a quick race from the docks of some Italian town to the Horizon Festival (heh, I didn't see any signs in the game that said "Forza Horizon" -- it's all "Horizon Festival" now; sign of things to come?). Looks very tight, very lush. The rumble triggers are a nice touch, although on something like the Lamborghini Huracán I think they're communicating a bit too much: no way that car's brake & gas pedals feel that reactive! :lol: #feelslikeacaterham

I was offered a choice between a 2014 BMW Z4 w/. retractable hardtop (no clue if it works in-game), a 1969 Camaro SS and a 1998 Toyota Supra RZ. While I'm not crazy about right-hand-drive cars in video games, I still choose the H00pra -- because H00pra. :D

I started the second narrative race (first race in my own car) and sure enough, it lead us off-road through some farm fields! Can't see The Line so well through the leafy stuff! Definitely gives off strong TDU/3D0 NFS vibes, sure thing. The greenery looks great, the (two) car interiors I've seen look tight, if anything I think the roofline on the interior view is a touch too low. The Design/Paint Shop options were still closed to me when I logged off but I'll be in there ASAP. I'm looking forward to exploring more *late* tonight. :up: :up:

[thesameguy]

Maybe we'll hook up. Your "late" is right about my beer thirty. ;) :up:

[thesameguy]

Am initially disappoint about the ridiculous races through the weeds. Lame.

[Denetti]

Am initially disappoint about the ridiculous races through the weeds. Lame.

Same. "Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads."

[SkylineObsession]

Is the Supra a premium, or standard?

Ooops, sorry - this isn't GT6. ;) :D

[novicius]

I'm still far too early into the game to say that every race has off-road parts -- but yeah, it does seem like every race has off-road segments. :| Furthermore, while the map seems open, there are walls that do limit travel. You cannot just look at the peak of a small mountain and drive there as in TDU; the walls exist, they're just really deep into the forests.

The Drivatar system irritates me; I see cars all the time with various peoples' gamertags only it's not them. The cars have custom paint jobs and everything, too. I wonder if there's a setting to only show the names of actual friends in-session? #probablynot

I got access to the Paint Shop but I did not see a menu entry for FM5 Designs like in the original Forza Horizon. Looks like I gotta start over painting cars... :rolleyes:

[Kchrpm]

You know what to do first...

[novicius]

I don't have the cash for that yet :lol: -- I'll work on painting up my JDM H00pra first.

[Kchrpm]

GET YO GRIND ON!

[thesameguy]

I'm still far too early into the game to say that every race has off-road parts -- but yeah, it does seem like every race has off-road segments.

I did like four formal races last night (the first three to get me to Nice, and then a 4th) and PRAISE JEEBUS they do not all have offroad parts. Only one of my four did. I found it incredibly lame - game destroyingly lame. The other three races were a combination of circuit races, point to point races, and a Vs. Jets race. A-Ok.


Furthermore, while the map seems open, there are walls that do limit travel. You cannot just look at the peak of a small mountain and drive there as in TDU; the walls exist, they're just really deep into the forests.

Yeah, mixed feelings about that. I had expected a TDU "drive anywhere" experience and it's not that. I may be okay with it. FH wasn't less fun because of the walls, so FH2 will surely be okay from that perspective. I just wish they hadn't dropped the "open world" bomb, because it's not. Not remotely.


The Drivatar system irritates me; I see cars all the time with various peoples' gamertags only it's not them. The cars have custom paint jobs and everything, too. I wonder if there's a setting to only show the names of actual friends in-session? #probablynot

Embarrassed to admit, but I don't even know how the online interactions work. I assumed it's the same as FH - in single player, you only get drivatars. You have to do FHO to get "mixed sessions" or go to the online roadtrip hubs to get real live humans. I'm probably displaying my ignorance here - I really have no idea how anything online works in this game. I do know that I spotted your Maserati driving drivatar ass across the road and t-boned the shit out of you in a Local Motors Rally Fighter, though. :lol:

Anywho, I played for about three, maybe four hours. Drove a lot of roads, did a number of bucket list activities (which are a nice spin, IMHO), did a bunch of street races, did the aforementioned four events, and sought out some signs (XP and travel discounts) to smash. I got to Nice, but didn't do anything there. Raised 5 (I think) skill points, did a few XP level ups (spin the wheel), and bought a Rally Fighter, RS500, and a 2.3-16 (Cossies 4EVA!). Upgraded the Ford to A, and the Merc to S1. Smashed the Local Motors rig into said Maserati and then parked it.

Overall, at this early stage it seems fun like FH was. But I am far less impressed with the visuals that I thought I would be - there is a LOT of pop-in that, frankly, is embarrassing this late in the game. I think they added so much detail everywhere it's overwhelming and meaningless for the most part - and may be contributing to the pop-in problems. But the cars look good, sound good, and drive good (or, maybe, just drive as expected?) and there are plenty of places to roam around so that's a-ok. The game mechanics are a little weird - grinding for Cr/XP/SP all at the same time seems pointless - though I won't lie, spinning that wheel and going for BIG MONEY NO WHAMMIES isn't all bad. Managing the SP "tree" feels like a weird addition to a driving game. Money doesn't seem to be a problem, but it also appears they've done away with the smash signs for upgrades discount aspect, so I guess you're going to need the money. ;) Still, I've got five cars (won an Astra) and $250k in the bank, so whatever. I guess I don't have any expensive cars, though. Hmph. Whatever.

[21Kid]

I had fun last night. :cool:

I did like four formal races last night (the first three to get me to Nice, and then a 4th) and PRAISE JEEBUS they do not all have offroad parts. Only one of my four did. I found it incredibly lame - game destroyingly lame. The other three races were a combination of circuit races, point to point races, and a Vs. Jets race. A-Ok. Same here. Only 1 off-road mission so far. I didn't think it was that bad though. :shrug: I do however think it should be limited to specific car types. They have SUVs/off-road trucks in the game, why not make these races specific for them? :? I don't want to be driving through a corn field in my Ferrari. :|



I do know that I spotted your Maserati driving drivatar ass across the road and t-boned the shit out of you in a Local Motors Rally Fighter, though. :lol: :lol: That's what I've been looking forward to with the drivatar. :D It makes the races more exciting as well, seeing your friends times and their cars in the race. I actually appreciate the random user cars. Seeing all of the normal AI cars in other games is boring, IMO.

[Tom Servo]

I got a chance to play through the intro, the heat, and then two races after that. There wasn't a lot of off-roading when I did it, and what was there was pretty entertaining to me. I enjoyed the 30 minutes or so I got to play it, though the dudebros are a little annoying.

The wife is having a (minor) medical procedure on Friday that I have to drive her to and from, then just tend to her every need when she's not sleeping on Friday. I expect to get lots of playing time on Friday.

[Kchrpm]

I'm looking forward to Rally Fighter highlights :up:

[thesameguy]

I am reminded of something regarding drivatars and the street races - it seems the "better" drivatars will take all sorts of crazy shortcuts to win. Since there are no way points, in an open world the shortest distance between the start of the race and the end is a straight line, and these jagoffs will make a beeline for the rough stuff to avoid having to turn. I challenged some dude in an Chally to a race and immediately lost track of him. I assumed he'd got turned around and stuck or something. Nope, he was barreling through the forest. In a sense, it adds realism to the game - if you challenged some 12 year old IRL he might do the same, but it really sucks if you're trying to keep things clean. You really don't have a prayer of a chance of the "more skilled" drivatars sticking to the road, much less the course. Not a fan of that - there is nobody with which to have a good, challenging street race with, it seems.

[thesameguy]

I'm looking forward to Rally Fighter highlights :up:

Me too! I nearly creamed myself when I saw it in the Auto Show - I never noticed it in the car lists. #lust

[Kchrpm]

Me too! I nearly creamed myself when I saw it in the Auto Show - I never noticed it in the car lists. #lust

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4P_Cvbi5gok/VCxDwLBDtnI/AAAAAAAEYPM/_BNb420w4cA/w1800-no/rftsg.png

[thesameguy]

ROFL. I seriously did not notice that was literally a Rally Fighter. :lol:

[21Kid]

How do you start a car group?

[Jason]

Re people going off course and not sticking to the line... I always felt Horizon is the arcade/bullshit fun version of Forza, and basically anything goes...

So uh... sorry in advance for my tactics >.>

[thesameguy]

Oh, I don't necessarily disagree with that, I just find it disappointing it's essentially impossible to get any sort of challenging street race. The way the drivatars end up working you're either trouncing a "poor" AI driver thoroughly, or you're blazing a pointless trail across the wilderness. Why even bother have the GPS route you on streets when you can just point the car directly towards the finish and mash the gas pedal? Why just have the GPS tell me where the trees and walls are? More than disappointing, actually, it seems poorly thought out.

[novicius]

I'm looking forward to Rally Fighter highlights :up:
What, this doesn't blow your skirt up??

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=43241&full=true

[GreatScawt]

Love, LOVE the rain shots. I played briefly last night...
http://i.imgur.com/SIl8Mb7.jpg

[novicius]

How do you start a car group?
Car clubs are locked until you complete your 3rd Championship.

[novicius]

Whoops, had to correct a spelling error. :D

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=46958&full=true

[Kchrpm]

That. Is. Baller. :up:

[Freude am Fahren]

I wish these games put dive planes as their own item. I know sometimes they do, or have a splitter option without them, but usually they just look out of place.

Anyway, looks gorgeous

[thesameguy]

I have determined that the skill points thing is a hilarious joke. Five minutes with the S1 2.3-16 on an abandoned military base equals a 250,000sp dorifto festival. Sadly, one rogue drivatar in a Fairlady put an end to my first attempt. For the record, I drifted through three light cycles and two weather patterns. Time had no meaning! Subsequent attempts were less glorious due to less patience, however three epic chaining events led to three perk points (>300,000sp) in about seven minutes. I would have liked my Personal Best to be that 250k number, but I settled for 150k instead.

Did my first car meet, and IMHO they are a big improvement over the original concept. Car meets can produce online races, so I raced my 800 S1 Merc against a Lambo Veranimamanino with a 100 point edge. The game handicaps the better car by starting the worse car first, which is a nice touch. Sadly, I totally blew one turn and ended up half a second behind. I would have made that turn too, but the sun was in my eyes.

I finished Nice and called it a night without taking the road trip to whatever is next. Seems like the servers were having issues - races took *forever* to cash out and joining online sessions seemed really problematic. Not too upset - I've got work I should be doing anyhow.

[Jason]

Is there traffic when playing online? I remember the first one not having it.. which (imo) kinda ruined the online mode.

[21Kid]

Yes. :) Basic city cars and random Drivatars of Xbox live users.

[GreatScawt]

Oh wait... in multiplayer there are drivatars and traffic as well as the "real-life" people in the lobby?

[novicius]

Kid, Dennis and a special guest appearance by Boda Zen helped make things interesting last night. :up: :up:

Having hammered out that Morrison Motorsport C7 for Keith put me behind the 8-ball gametime-wise so I haven't had a chance to explore the game as much as the others. Picked up a few free cars but I'm bummed you can no longer sell cars; there is an option to remove them from your Garage but you can't sell them for in-game credits any longer. :|

Traction is also an issue as FH2 is more slippery this time around, IMO. This goes hand-in-hand with the fact that there has been a horsepower valuation increase, for want of a better description. Horsepower is just flat-out underrated in FH2. An attempt to kill the advantages of the high-horsepower-&-stock-tires crowd? Whatever it is, now my RWD cars are just blazing the tires off of the rims with even 300-400 hp! My B-Class Supra RZ is a crazed demon trying to harness its mighty stock 320 HP and is sliding all over the place. I've got a 432 HP '56 Ford F-100 with the 6.2L V8 Scorpion from a Raptor in it that just blasts smoke out of the rear wheel wells like Snoop Dogg was living under there.

It's more than just a setup situation (and I'm pretty comfortable with knowing how to setup cars in Forza after all these years), this is a serious change of the simulated definition of power. Challenging and, uh, entertaining I guess. :lol:

[novicius]

Why even bother have the GPS route you on streets when you can just point the car directly towards the finish and mash the gas pedal? Why just have the GPS tell me where the trees and walls are? More than disappointing, actually, it seems poorly thought out.
Are you talking about making an impromptu race? Because the championship off-road rally races all have checkpoints that if you ignore them, will re-rez you back behind the last one you missed. You can't just head for the finish, you definitely have to go through checkpoints.

[novicius]

Oh wait... in multiplayer there are drivatars and traffic as well as the "real-life" people in the lobby?
If you open up a Private Road Trip or Open Drive, you will have all of the traffic: AI, Drivatars and other Players that you've invited. All traffic, all the time. :up:

I was doing a shitty job as room leader last night: I'd leave Group GPS coordinates active while I'd work on my cars in my Garage, which then results in everyone's GPS Nanny hounding them mercilessly. :assclown: #mybad

But with a good Leader, alternating between Cannonball runs from race to race across the board, initiating races and challenges, and exercising GPS attentiveness, this title is really scratching that old TDU itch for me. :up: :up:

Also, making money on runs like this is very, very easy. Even in D-Class 1st place usually pays out like 30K credits and then 2nd pays out like 28K. Ridiculous! :lol:

[21Kid]

I was kind of dissapointed that style > winning, however. I beat Carlo 3 out of 4 races (I think) in my super sticky 22B impreza. But, with only 10 style points for a close call, his crazy-dorifto supra was racking up the points doing mad burnouts and drifts. I lost the championship, despite "winning" 75% of the races. :(

[novicius]

Yep, although that 22B is a flat-out ringer! You didn't even have the PI maxed out for the class and you were puttin' lengths on my Supra! :smh: #killer22B

[Kchrpm]

Yeah yeah, racing and style and drifting and whatever, are you able to record video of the C7? Perhaps driving around Italian coastline? Can Sofia Vergara be inserted into the passenger seat? Devin Brugman?

Or, like, just a bunch of pictures, or something. No rush.

[thesameguy]

My B-Class Supra RZ is a crazed demon trying to harness its mighty stock 320 HP and is sliding all over the place.

That is interesting! I went with the Soopra to start and did not have an issue with its level of sticky. Nor the '03 Challenge I acquired at some point. Neither were modded in any way except tire pressure.


Are you talking about making an impromptu race?

Yeah, just the random challenges. Not organized events. I'll sheepishly admit I used this to my advantage last night when I challenged a way-out-of-my-league McLaren in the aforementioned '03 red car.... I may have mowed some lawn to win.

Are you running with simulation damage or cosmetic? I'm doing the latter... but keep itching to try the former. I'm not sure what other difficulty settings I've engaged... I think the drivatars are on Skilled or Highly Skilled and all the driving aids save ABS are off. Pretty happy with the config thus far.

[21Kid]

I tried simulation... But, it hinders all of your driving. Even around cities and between events. It's not very fun. I was damaging my car all the time from hitting so many bushes, vespas (maybe on purpose ;) ), etc...

I switched it to cosmetic and it's been much more fun.

[novicius]

I run Damage Setting: NONE. I like keeping my cars shiny at all times. :finger:



That is interesting! I went with the Soopra to start and did not have an issue with its level of sticky. Nor the '13 Challenger I acquired at some point. Neither were modded in any way except tire pressure.
As Kid can attest, my Supra is a sideways-sidling monster. All I've done to it are some Drivetrain mods (Racing Flywheel, Racing Clutch, Sport Transmission, Sport Diff set to 33%), I believe. MAYBE Racing Exhaust but I don't think so (will verify tonight). I am running stock width 18" HRE rims on stock rubber. Soft rear suspension settings and 26 psi in the rear tires for grip with a medium-strength rear swaybar to keep the big ol' Supra booty in check. Obviously need to take some more air out of the tires, soften up the rear suspension more and make the rear swaybar much more beefy. #iliveinoversteercity

Stockish
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=33013&full=true

Old Paint
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=33715&full=true

Shadow of the Colossus
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=34365&full=true

[novicius]

Yeah yeah, racing and style and drifting and whatever, are you able to record video of the C7? Perhaps driving around Italian coastline? Can Sofia Vergara be inserted into the passenger seat? Devin Brugman?

Or, like, just a bunch of pictures, or something. No rush.
This weekend, bud. :up:

[thesameguy]

[gtxf] is a-waitin'.

[21Kid]

I still have to finish 2 more championships... :| Is there a way to search for the club? Or request to join a friends club?

[novicius]

Or, like, just a bunch of pictures, or something. No rush.
For you, bud -- you'll have to 'shop the girls in yourself, of course. ;)

In no particular order:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=101683&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=97529&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=96612&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=96420&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=96204&full=true :toast:

[Kchrpm]

So so pretty :up:

[thesameguy]

I still have to finish 2 more championships... :| Is there a way to search for the club? Or request to join a friends club?

When the clubs unlock you can either search by friends, search by name/string, or create a new one. I searched for "gtxf" to ensure nobody had used those letter combos then made [gtxf]. FOR GREAT VICTORY!

I enjoyed in the creation process there was a selection for "Primarily interested in.... comical mischief." :lol:

[Tom Servo]

Doh - I guess it's case sensitive because I created one tagged GTXF. I'll drop it and join yours, but for what it's worth now we have two clubs if we end up having some ideological schism.

Edit: Weird, even if I search lowercase I only see my club.

[21Kid]

B-Team!!! :D

[novicius]

...and so the Great Schism was further widened. :popcorn:

::

In addition to some glamour shots of the Morrison Motorsport Gran Turismo Race Body C7, I also worked on my JDM Supra RZ. Took out a bunch of spring, took out some air and put on a much beefier rear bar, all of which served to both aid traction and keep the ass-end from stepping out whenever I rocked the loud pedal with the almighty 320 HP (running stock exhaust after all).

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=82635&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=82529&full=true :hard:

[thesameguy]

Odd! Did you try including the brackets? Maybe it doesn't match strings, it only matches complete names? That would be dumb, but I could see it happening.

Edit: Also, I have no issue switching clubs... I just didn't find one last night & made one. Whatever works for me. ;)

[novicius]

So there was an issue with downloading the Launch Day car packs but still having to buy the vehicles? I found a workaround that worked for me: when you're in either the Autoshow or your Start Menu - Cars tab - Buy Cars button, you have to scroll over to the cars of the Launch Day pack individually. You should see the price for each car set to 0 CR. "Buy" these cars.

If you use the filter options and try to force the cars to shuffle from cheapest to most expensive, however, then the Launch Day cars will show their actual prices. Don't buy them that way, don't use the filter, scroll over to each car and verify that the price is 0 CR and then buy them that way.

Day 1/Launch Day car pack list
1956 Ford F-100
1968 Abarth 595 esseesse
1987 Buick Regal GNX
1993 Clio Williams
1997 Land Rover Defender 90
2003 Ford Focus RS
2012 Cadillac Escalade ESV
2015 Ford Mustang GT

So far, I've only really played with the '56 F-100 and the '15 Mustang GT. :cool:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=83340&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=99756&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=101186&full=true

[Kchrpm]

Escalade ESV in a racing game? Woo boy.

[21Kid]

Awww. You mean to tell me I wasted money buying my Abarth 595? :(

[novicius]

Looks that way -- I was able to add all of these cars to my Garage for 0 CR.

[thesameguy]

Had to walk the dog at lunch (she is still in PT :( ) and checked the club thing out. It is not case sensitive and it is a string search. I was able to find [gtxf] and a GTX team, but no GTXF. The server did time out twice when searching, so maybe something is broken.

Edit: Or maybe GTXF is restricted somehow? I put none on for [gtxf].

[Tom Servo]

Huh, well, I think I have it named "GTX" and the tag for it is GTXF. It seems like the names are not guaranteed unique but the tags are? All too confusing.

[thesameguy]

Yeah, I don't understand that bit at all. The "name" and the "description" were not what I expected them to be, so my club appears retarded. Knowing what I know now, I would have done it differently. I thought about redoing it, but then I realized I don't care that much. I want to drive stuff and occasionally crash into things.

[Tom Servo]

Pretty sure you can find mine if you search for the tag GTXF. I have it send to friends only, so anybody who's not friends with me feel free to send a request.

[thesameguy]

Yeah, I just figured that out... it's because I was searching by name, which is not set to GTXF. However, being invite only I was unable to join. ;)

[novicius]

TSG, I drove past your Drivatar just now and it was called "[[[]]] thesaabguy". Looks like something didn't take...

[thesameguy]

No, that's what it is. :lol:

Tags are limited to 4 characters so they can put them in brackets, and Swervo took gtxf, so I took [[]] :lol:

http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2012102/560.glitch.ls.11212.jpg

[Tom Servo]

Wait, my club is set to invite only? That's weird, because I can't even figure out how to send invites. Will investigate.

[21Kid]

Which GTX[F] club are we going with? We don't really need 2 of them, do we?

[GreatScawt]

I need to jump back on eventually. I have done exactly one race (or two?) and a road trip. :lol:

[novicius]

I was on Friday night took a few new snaps, that's about it.

Some small edits for Keith:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=158436&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=158633&full=true I also didn't like the white racing stripes going over the sail panel on my '15 Mustang GT so I made a blackout panel to go over the stripes.

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=157631&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=157794&full=true :cool:

[thesameguy]

I am seriously bummed right now - something is broken with my forzamotorsports.net account and photos I've saved aren't linked to my gallery... I have no idea where they are. :sad banana:

I have a kick-ass shot of my '56 F100 in a mad drift around that very Mustang. I am a little bummed that there is no option to include the gamertags in photos, as it'd be cool to see in some (like that one!). But. uh, that F100 is proving to be my favorite ride thus far. It's fairly well built up, but I set up the transmission to make 5th & 6th useless & have been driving it as a 4-speed. Feels cool. ;)

I've done a few barn finds, including finding the Willys. I did a little tuning on it and took for a test drive then, when going for the map, inadvertently hit the other button and challenged an Aston Martin to a race. I did what any sensible Jeep owner would do and set off across the fields. Redlined in 3rd gear I went bouncing across the wilderness at a jaw-dropping 77mph - oddly feeling really bad for the old beast. It was a photo finish, with the Jeep emerging victorious. :up:

After a few days of playing I feel like they did a pretty good job with this game. It has its flaws, but it's highly playable and quite enjoyable. The drivatars definitely add a bit of crazy to solo game, and I'm not mad at it. Still, for all of its hugeness it doesn't seem like it's going to take that much to get through. I guess I still have quite a few championships to go through, but in terms of exploration I'm running out. I think I'm doing it wrong, because Anna keeps reminding me I have entered a championship that has not been completed. She's quite the nag.

[Kchrpm]

I wonder if the 360 version has Drivatars, since that was something that required THE CLOUD in Forza 5.

[Kchrpm]

Some small edits for Keith:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=158436&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=158633&full=true
:cool:

[8400RPM]

I wonder if the 360 version has Drivatars, since that was something that required THE CLOUD in Forza 5.

No it does not. No weather either. Pretty fun but nothing really new about this one, just Horizon 1 with a new map.

[thesameguy]

So sad I can't find the greatest F100 picture ever, but this one isn't bad....

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=408283&full=true

And tucked away for the night:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=408277&full=true

"You better run, or I'll mess up your other end too."

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=408312&full=true

[SkylineObsession]

Sad Ferrari. :(

[thesameguy]

Hopefully that'll learn it to drive normal.

[novicius]

Looks good TSG -- although you should turn damage off! ;)

[thesameguy]

Nonsense. My Ford is all original.

[novicius]

That makes no sense.

[thesameguy]

It has a nice patina?

[novicius]

Naw-naw mang -- I wanna see that shine! :D

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=466661&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=469094&full=true :cool:

[thesameguy]

It reminds me of where I've been, and what I did there?

[thesameguy]

My Scirocco got a love tap from Novi's drivatar, upsetting the 15' lead I had. I never saw the Corvette again. Turns out the Scirocco's straight line speed is not particularly noteworthy. ;)

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=468753&full=true

[novicius]

:lol: :up:

[Kchrpm]

'MERICA!

[GreatScawt]

Wait, the Drivatars use the appropriate cars and paintjobs from the person as well? Badass. Time to remake my HESS MC12. :up:

[Kchrpm]

http://www.joystiq.com/2014/10/07/forza-horizon-2s-first-car-pack-rolls-out-on-xbox-one/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHhfA01yAoE


The pack introduces the 2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe, the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT, the 2013 Renault Clio RS 200, 1988's Volkswagen Scirocco 16v, and the 1957 Maserati 300 S. This month also marks the launch of the 1988 BMW M5, which all players can download today free of charge.

[GreatScawt]

That trailer must have been a lot of fun to make :up:

(But paid DLC already? :down:)

[Tom Servo]

So, I have notifications that I have cars gifted to me, but how in the hell do I get them?

I did finally get the Forza Hub app working after many days of "Unable to connect, try again", but it just gifted me credits.

[novicius]

Go into your Star Menu, tap the Right Bumper over to your Community (I think) tab, highlight the Free Car message and hit your green button. I think that's how I got the free cars.

::

Forza Horizon 2 DLC and Rewards Coming Only to Xbox One Version, Dev Says (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forza-Horizon-2-DLC-and-Rewards-Coming-Only-to-Xbox-One-Version-Dev-Says-461444.shtml)


"I’ve seen a lot of questions from community members about certain features and functionality on the Xbox 360 version of the game, including questions regarding DLC and Forza Rewards for the 360 version of the game. To clarify: We are currently planning to release DLC only for the Xbox One version of Forza Horizon 2." D'oh!

[thesameguy]

Wow!

That is something that should have been made more clear like a year ago. The x360 version is totally neutered!

I was angry about the week one DLC, but became too excited about the Jag to care much. I used the $10 I got back from MS against the season pass, so it really didn't hurt that much.

And, yeah, it seems the drivatars use their actual owners cars, although I don't know by what rules. I've seen Novicius's C7 and the red/striped Mustang, but also an MC12 which I'm not sure he actually owns. Gives me great pleasure to think my old iron is what's out winning ~$20k a day for me. :up:

[Jason]

The fact that paid DLC is announced right after the game is released just pisses me off. It's clear these cars are being worked on and/or are completed upon release. Relentless money grabbing. :|

[thesameguy]

Well, that's probably not exactly accurate. In order for us to have CDs in our hands on the 30th, the finalized game was probably released to manufacturing mid-summer. You gotta make CDs, packages, fill warehouses, distribution channels, and stores and that doesn't happen overnight. Assuming everything goes flawlessly, it's probably a solid two months between Gold, RTM and Release Day. Maybe three. That's a couple months for working on DLC, which has no such overhead involved.

Regardless, release day DLC is a fact of life. That cat has been out of the bag for many, many years.

[Jason]

And it's bothered me for many, many years. :angry:

[novicius]

I downloaded the free BMW M5. #shrug

[thesameguy]

Increase your apathy.

[Jason]

:smh:

[SkylineObsession]

I'm with you Jason. Not the biggest fan of it either, Forza is a particularly bad example, but i'd say there are much worse ones out there.

[21Kid]

I used to be in the same boat about all DLC, Jason.

But, I realized that it's better than in the previous generations, before DLC and patches. A possibly good game could be ruined because of a bug that couldn't be patched. Or you'd have to buy a whole new game to use a different car. I appreciate that we can now continue to expand the game and play it for years. Instead of having completely separate discs that aren't compatible or anything.

I haven't buy much DLC though, however. I am starting to change my mind though. I'd rather have one game/disc that has $50 worth of DLC that is usable all in one package, than have two separate games/discs that I can't play together and have to level up separately, etc...

And like TSG said, they've probably been working on them since the game was "finished" 3 months ago.

[novicius]

Increase your apathy.
:lol:

I'm just saying, they're not forcing me to buy (yet). If there's a must-have car in a given pack, I'll buy that pack. What's the harm?

::

Also, the result of last night's Retro Muscle:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=523705&full=true :twisted:

[Jason]

:mad:

[thesameguy]

I saw that Byooooick at one of the car meets last night, but you were taking off just as I was finished loading. I ended up spanking an S2 Civic twice in a row with my B Escort 1800.

It's possible I'm doing it wrong, but after a lot of Forza it really seems that by design cars can't make huge class leaps without becoming largely worthless. An S2 Civic has gotta be impossible to handle in the turns and probably isn't ultimately that fast. I stopped trying years ago, and I've been much happier. I had 20 seconds on the Civic - it wasn't even a challenge. No worries - racking up reps for the [[[]]] club. ;)

Last night I was heading back to a hub to road trip to the next championship when I was notified that one of Horizon's top drivers was in the area. This is *the* first time I've run into a top drivatar when I actually had a car I had high confidence in. Usually, I'm tooling around in a B or C class car that's built mostly for handling and less for straight lines - but last night I'd just finished an A R5 Turbo. ENGAGE!

You know who it was? Our own Novicius in an Escort Cosworth!

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=524609&full=true

Of course, wouldn't you know it, that Cossie is only a Class C. I brought a nuke to a knife fight. DOH!

Anywho, congrats on birthing a top drivatar!

[21Kid]

TSG is a top drivatar too!!!

[novicius]

Thanks! :D


but last night I'd just finished an A R5 Turbo. ENGAGE!
Hey, I saw your Drivatar tooling around in this car last night. I thought that it was a fluke combo, much like me in a Cossie! I don't even think I own a Cossie at this point! :lol:

The Rivals pay out the best (often $30K+) the quickest (a race can be over in 3 minutes) so I've been poaching quite a few Drivatars as I find them. My Buick put the hammer down on more than one TSG-driven '87 Trans Am race as well as 22B's driven by Kid & Swervo's Drivatars. :hard:

[Tom Servo]

Go into your Star Menu, tap the Right Bumper over to your Community (I think) tab, highlight the Free Car message and hit your green button. I think that's how I got the free cars.

I don't feel in the slightest bit bad for missing the "(A) Download" thing in the lower left hand corner when doing that. Thank you for pointing it out, the Huracan is coming in rather handy for knocking down some of the expensive series without actually draining the bank.

I really wish this game had come with a manual. There are still parts of it that I completely do not understand. I figure I'll get there eventually, though.

[Kchrpm]

I wonder if/when PS4 and XBone will implement the built-in digital manual interface that the Wii U has.

[novicius]

Thank you for pointing it out, the Huracan is coming in rather handy for knocking down some of the expensive series without actually draining the bank.
I accidentally deleted my Huracán. :(

[thesameguy]

Hey, I saw your Drivatar tooling around in this car last night. I thought that it was a fluke combo, much like me in a Cossie! I don't even think I own a Cossie at this point! :lol:

One of the achievements is something like "buy 20 cars in one month," and since I was camping on about $4m I spent a good portion of Monday night buying every single car of note under $100k. I don't know how many I bought, but I earned the achievement way before I was done shopping. :up: I think I still have about $2m and so I started in with some more expensive stuff - a Ruf, a Countach, a KTM, and some other stuff I can't remember. I haven't bought anything truly expensive, but I'm not really that into most modern supercars - the supply of gifted ones is plenty adequate for me. I'll probably end up with some vintage-ier cars, but not until I've used up all the fun in the 60s-90s cars. ;)


My Buick put the hammer down on more than one TSG-driven '87 Trans Am race as well as 22B's driven by Kid & Swervo's Drivatars. :hard:

I always buy me a GTA and it's always a squirrelly bastard. ;) I don't remember offhand what class it's in, but I used it in that championship and it mopped up. You just have to be really gentle with it in turns or it'll completely betray you. Of course that's all fixable with tuning, but that wouldn't be terribly realistic, would it? :lol: I wonder if the drivatar cars are tuned the same way as the originals, or if they're just totally random stuff... I'm guessing random?

I just entered the R5 in the Retro Hot Hatch championship. I expect little opposition to that beast, though it's really brought to light the subtle changes (improvements?) they made to the physics engine. The behavior of its back end in turns and under power (and especially in turns under power) feels totally unique - what I'd expect for a 30 year old econobox that someone thought should have its motor in the boot.

[novicius]

Yeah, I've got a tuned Racing Suspension, Racing Swaybars, Racing Brakes and wide 18" HRE rims on stock tires under the B-Class GNX. It rides firm and and handles pretty neutral, it just pushes wide for days. :lol:

::


I really wish this game had come with a manual. There are still parts of it that I completely do not understand. I figure I'll get there eventually, though.
Yup, there are things to the Online Road Trip/Free Roam aspects that I want to master but I'm coming up clueless to how to best do it. I see that there's an option for a Private Online Free Roam -- but can we still do Championships and work through our games while dropping into and out of someone else's Private Online Free Roam room? #noclue

[thesameguy]

But can we still do Championships and work through our games while dropping into and out of someone else's Private Online Free Roam room? #noclue

I believe the answer to this is Yes. The online/"offline" aspect of FH2 seems completely seamless. Last night I joined an online freeroam from a car meet and got bored pretty quickly, so I quit. Nothing changed at all - except the real life people I was driving with disappeared. Same car, same damage, same immediate need to Austin Powers my way out of an unfortunate drift accident. You can enter/exit random online "stuff" (races, freeroams, roadtrips) through various entry points on the map, or you can instantiate your own private session through the menu. I believe they both function the same, the only difference is the matchmaking (or lack thereof). I think the only thing you cannot do is progress your solo game in an online session - you can still do the championship races, but they aren't actual championships, etc.

[thesameguy]

My Z28 is the car my GTA isn't. It is, in a word, amazeballs. And it eats Diablos for lunch. I actually let off the gas to take the picture. :up:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=572320&full=true

So successful is it, I sent it after a Berlinetta.

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=572524&full=true

I gotta ask: Novicius - Why do you have flowers on your Ferrari? :lol:

[Tom Servo]

Finished off the Horizon Finale, at least they're pretty generous on the credits/XP when you do that. Didn't realize that there are multiple "sets" of bucket lists, so I just went on to the second series of 15.

[21Kid]

I just got the Z28 last night and was probably going to just write it off. But, your praise of it makes me want to pimp it out. :cool:

Oh, and the VW microbus is a sleeper, just sayin. ;)

As long as you don't need it to go over 115 mph. :lol:

[novicius]

I gotta ask: Novicius - Why do you have flowers on your Ferrari? :lol:
Grrr... FORZA HORIZON TWOOOO!! #shakesfist

I don't, actually. A lot of times, I'm seeing cars that have random user-created paintjobs associated with Drivatars. I could be completely wrong but I doubt Dennis has a Buick GNX painted up like Richard Petty's '83 STP Pontiac Grand Prix. :lol: Maybe he does, who knows?

Does your Trans Am have a paintjob that makes it look like K.I.T.T. from Knight Rider, TSG? 'Cause your Drivatar does. :D

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Kid, Dennis, Boda & I did some Private Online Road Trips late last night. It was a good (but not yet great) time. :up:

When you choose an Online Road Trip (Public or Private), you're selecting a hopper that is loading up a mini-championship of 3 races + 1 game-like event (such as King of the Hill, Infection, etc.) that you need to score Kudos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gotham_Racing_3#Kudos) to win. Finishing in 1st helps but you can overcome the 1st place bonus if you score enough Kudos. In between each race you will get kicked out to the World Map and cannonball to the next event/race starting point; the kudos you earn during this scramble also adds to your micro-championship point total. At the end, everyone votes for the next car class, you pick your car and then you're off on the next series. #kudos

Note that you only get one chance to pick a car for those four races/events and that's when you pick the next class of challenges. You have 20ish seconds to pick a car so pick that class of car quickly! Dennis and Boda both hung their cheese out in the wind for far too long and got stuck with suboptimal cars that made their experiences less than fun for those series.

We did not try Private Online Free Roam but I tend to think that that's going to be the best option for most nights: the Party Leader gets to manually set each destination point anywhere on everyone's GPS, whether it's a one-off race, an event or just to another town's Horizon party to work on cars. People can cannonball across the map, opt out and tinker on cars, cruise, etc. at their leisure vs. the forced launching that Road Trip makes you do.

It was good to try the Road Trip and clearly understand what it does (unending automated race series construction/selection w/. bonus money at the end) but it's rather frentic if you're not prepared. :up:

[novicius]

Oh, and the VW microbus is a sleeper, just sayin. ;)

As long as you don't need it to go over 115 mph. :lol:
Hells yeah! Even tho' I won that series with my Tangerine Dream '56 F100, it was only through bullying and massif amounts of horsepower. :lol:

The subsequent series where you sniped 1st place with your rally-spec '68 ABARTH Esseesse still has me shaking my head! :smh: :up: #mightymite #smallball

[21Kid]

I was peddling pretty fast!!!

[novicius]

Yeah you were! :D I couldn't believe my eyes when I'd see you blasting across purple fields of lavandula and keeping up with (or ahead of) my beefy Land Rover D90... :lol: #goodtimes

[21Kid]

I do really like that anything goes as long as it fits within the class. A, B, C, etc... It doesn't *have* to be a sports car or SUV. But, we could always self-impose those rules if we wanted to.

I agree that the Road Trips are quite hectic and a little too fast-passed. Maybe it would be fun to do once in awhile.

The only thing that I don't like about the private free-roam is that only the leader can start a race. :( So, if they're off painting their car, no one can do anything in the meantime. :|

[novicius]

True. I'm just thinking of a more leisurely way to play -- after a few days/weeks, people should have a few cars for every class and then the Online Road Trips won't be so hectic. :up:

It is definitely nice to have the two modes of play: the Online Free Roam is TDU and the Online Road Trip is PGR. :cool:

[Denetti]

I could be completely wrong but I doubt Dennis has a Buick GNX painted up like Richard Petty's '83 STP Pontiac Grand Prix. :lol: Maybe he does, who knows?

He does.

[21Kid]

The online freeroam (not private) with the general public is pretty fun too. You don't have to join the races that are started, if you don't want to.

[novicius]

Really? Good to know -- yeah, I was worried that the Leader of a Public Online Free Roam room could force me into a race.


He does.
Ok cool :up: bad example for my case but I'm still a believer that the game automatically pairs random cars + paints for Drivatars. :erm:

[thesameguy]

Yeah, it must. My GTA is factory red. And I've run into a buddy of mine driving all sorts of cars he absolutely cannot have as he only has the demo. I'd thought/hoped your drivatar drove your actual cars, but I guess not - the times it appeared to must have been a fluke. It does make me wonder how it could possibly "map" my driving habits into anything with anything with a hint of understeer. I even converted my Sierra Cosworth to RWD (okay, the torque balance is 100% rear) for additional fun. Being a little slippy racks up mad skill points. :up:

I still have nine championships to go, but I've knocked out the first batch of bucket list stuff, acquired all the perks, taken ~200 promographs, found all the roads, and... something else. I've been limiting myself to one championship and some hooning per session... can't have this game suck up my life.

[21Kid]

I think it might scale depending on what car you are currently driving. If they have a similar one in their garage, we will see that. But, if not then they will get a rental.

[21Kid]

What is the point, exactly of the Car Groups? Just to represent? :? Do you actually get anything from it?

It seems like there are more members in [GTXF] than in [[[]]], so I've been thinking of jumping ship. I'm going to lose my 500k points that i've earned for [[[]]] though, I'm afraid. At least I got the achievement first.

[thesameguy]

I think it might scale depending on what car you are currently driving. If they have a similar one in their garage, we will see that. But, if not then they will get a rental.

I initially assumed that, but it doesn't seem to be the case. When I was driving around in primarily B and C cars all the other cars on the road were A+. I've recently been driving primarily A cars (the R5T and Z28) and most everything I run into is C. The world population *seems* random - but it could also be that in the early days there weren't a lot of drivatars to choose from. Maybe after a few weeks it'll sort itself out.


It seems like there are more members in [GTXF] than in [[[]]], so I've been thinking of jumping ship. I'm going to lose my 500k points that i've earned for [[[]]] though, I'm afraid. At least I got the achievement first.

Totally fine with that... I'm assuming [GXTF] was de-invite-only'd. I almost checked last night, but I didn't want to blow anything up for the club or myself if it didn't work out. Can we confirm that the GTXF is open and we can all jump ship?

[novicius]

I believe Swervo has set GTXF Club to open invite.


Being a little slippy racks up mad skill points. :up:
Yeah, I'm rapidly realizing this. I fixed my Supra's rear suspension (as well as a host of other cars) so now the rear-end won't step out hardly at all when cornering hard -- and it cost me last night in the Road Trip series. The only vehicle I won comfortably with is my still-ass-happy '56 F100. :assclown: #doh

[Tom Servo]

I honestly don't even remember getting an option about invites, I just set it to "friends only". I'm happy to set it to completely open if people wanted that, but I didn't know if we wanted a group that was pretty much only GTXers, in which case send me a friend request if I don't already have you.

[Kchrpm]

Are you saying I can win things just by sliding? Maybe I *do* need to get the game...

[novicius]

It would be nice if we could *choose* to win either with just earned finishes or dorifto skills...

[novicius]

I honestly don't even remember getting an option about invites, I just set it to "friends only". I'm happy to set it to completely open if people wanted that, but I didn't know if we wanted a group that was pretty much only GTXers, in which case send me a friend request if I don't already have you.
I'd think Friends Only is good at this time -- everybody, send an XBL friend request to Swervo! :D

[21Kid]

My buddy in the [[[]]] group is 98% of the way to the 500k achievement. Can you leave it open for tonight or tomorrow so he can finish it? Or maybe you could transfer it over? Not sure if that's an option.

Can friends of friends join? One of my friends from work (JaeP) and I play quite often and I'd like to invite him, if possible.
I was going to tell him to come visit the forum. But, I keep forgetting.

[21Kid]

It would be nice if we could *choose* to win either with just earned finishes or dorifto skills...

That would be nice. Or at least give the option to scale back the dorifito points.

[21Kid]

Are you saying I can win things just by sliding? Maybe I *do* need to get the game...

And a Xbone. :D

[novicius]

My buddy in the [[[]]] group is 98% of the way to the 500k achievement. Can you leave it open for tonight or tomorrow so he can finish it? Or maybe you could transfer it over? Not sure if that's an option.

Can friends of friends join? One of my friends from work (JaeP) and I play quite often and I'd like to invite him, if possible.
I was going to tell him to come visit the forum. But, I keep forgetting.
I vote "Yes!" for all of this. :up: Swervo? :D #burdensofleadership

[thesameguy]

Yeah, I'm rapidly realizing this. I fixed my Supra's rear suspension (as well as a host of other cars) so now the rear-end won't step out hardly at all when cornering hard -- and it cost me last night in the Road Trip series. The only vehicle I won comfortably with is my still-ass-happy '56 F100. :assclown: #doh

I tend to tune towards neutral, but always build in some throttle-on oversteer. Sometimes you don't want steering correction to slow you down, but a little boot to tighten up a corner or earn some SP works pretty well. What I can't understand is why I am having such a hard time getting that result with the GTA... the Z28 is a masterpiece of this tuning, but the GTA switches between fidgety oversteer and insane pushing. Seems like if a 2nd gen f-body can do it, a 3rd gen should be able to. :|

[thesameguy]

My buddy in the [[[]]] group is 98% of the way to the 500k achievement. Can you leave it open for tonight or tomorrow so he can finish it? Or maybe you could transfer it over? Not sure if that's an option.

I think the club will stay open as long as one person is in it, but I'm happy to hang around until he's done just to be sure. Just let me know when it happens. No worries.

[21Kid]

I'll tell him to try and finish it ASAP anyway. ;)

10k should only take 2 races or so.

[Tom Servo]

I'll go ahead and open up the group when I get home tonight...if we start getting lots of annoying/irritating people, then I'll close it back up again.

[Tom Servo]

Okay, group is set to open. Did see that there's also an invite only, but I had it set to "Open to Friends". It's now fully open.

[Darius]

Ok, broke down and picked up an Xbox one and Horizon 2. So you might see me online from time to time.

[novicius]

Whoa, cool! What's your gamertag?

[Tom Servo]

Jeez, have the group open for one day and riff-raff like Denetti join up. Time to set it to private.

[Darius]

Still Darius. I should never leave XBL its the one place I get the name I want :)

[Darius]

I've got probably 6-8 hours into the game now. Really enjoying it, its a nice break from your typical racing game. I didn't play the first Horizon and also didn't play Forza 5. So its been since Forza 4 since I had a decent racing game to play. Really enjoying the NSX but theres so many good cars to choose from.

[novicius]

This has been my first full FH2 weekend; as a result I'm now lvl 70+ with a pimpin' purple wristband and shizzload of cars. I've been working over the Speed Cameras, knocking out the Bonus Boards and getting caught up on my Barn Finds.

I'll be ready to Road Trip this week like a mofo! :D

::

I'm loving' this lightly modified C-class '69 Boss 302 -- yet the devs screwed it up and made the base transmission a 5-speed? :lol:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=741787&full=true

[thesameguy]

On the upside, the Cherokee SRT has an 8-speed. which is a little hard to manage but really makes it snappy in those wacky offroad races. ;)

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=716645&full=true

It also brings some benefits when some trust fund baby in a Lambo mouths off. :up:

On the other end of the spectrum, ginormous brakes are pretty useful when a VW pops in the wrong place.

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=734542&full=true

I stopped, but I can't say the ESVs were able to do the same. I've not seen any ambulances in in FH2, but if there were they'd have all been there.

Frankly, I couldn't get out of the SUV races fast enough and back into sensible race cars. Like 40 year old boats with big motors.

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=741510&full=true

This is by far and away my favorite race to date. The second pass through Saint Martin in the US Muscle races in the rain. Hauling ass in an overpowered, undersafe car on a wet mountain road at daybreak is all win.

[novicius]

Love that last pic, TSG. :up:

Yeah, I will confess that I took my free Escalade and snazzed it up with some race livery. Can't get away from the fact that it's forever big, low and slow. :D

::

Shameful admission of the weekend: I did in fact make a replica of Dom's Chevelle. :smh:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=687711&full=true (:finger:)

[Kchrpm]

More Escalade pics plzkthxbai

[21Kid]

I made my Escalade into a woody. :D

[Tom Servo]

Heh, I must have been racing your drivatar then. That thing during an offroad race looks so much like an old crappy van instead of an Escalade (a *new* crappy van), kept surprising the hell out of me.

[novicius]

Kid is a damn fine driver regardless of whatever heap he's jockeying. :up:

[21Kid]

:lol:
Just because I like to use ringers doesn't qualify me as a good driver. ;)

[Darius]

Only thing I wish this game had right now is motorcycles.

[thesameguy]

That Charger is quite the terror. I spent an inordinate amount of time doing the post-race rival runs and decimating ostensibly better cars. A Charger facing off against M3s and STIs is nothing short of hilarious to me.

Speaking of, another hilarious adventure was a cross-country road trip in a Rally Fighter:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=670673&full=true
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=670850&full=true
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=671188&full=true
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=670986&full=true

The Rally Fighter is a blunt instrument if ever there was one. I can't find a single actually useful thing to do with it, although I tend to zip back to a hub to grab it for Barn Finds. Heh.

[novicius]

I used Dom's Chevelle most of the weekend to wreak havoc and scout barns. It's, ah, a handful. :lol:

[Kchrpm]

Rally Fighter action :up:

Does it support YouTube uploads? I wonder if people have sweet RF action on YouTube...

[21Kid]

I have yet to get a Rally Fighter. I think that may be next on my list. :D

[thesameguy]

Rally Fighter = ZFG

[Kchrpm]

There are Rally Fighter vids, but no super sweet highlight reel yet.

[novicius]

Replays in FH2 are really bad, btw. There is no automatic cutting, multi-angle traditional replay like you might get out of Gran Turismo.

It's the one area where Horizon 2 is just shit. :down: :down:

[thesameguy]

FH is not a spectator sport.

[novicius]

Truth! Get in the game, Keef! :lol:

[Tom Servo]

Now that I've sorted out how to choose which championship in each city I've just been knocking out the Off-Road stuff so I never have to do it again. It's predictably annoying since it's often hard to tell where the next checkpoint is going to be, but I finally realized that it's pretty easy to get between events/do road trips by just pointing at the target and plowing through the countryside. Now *that's* pretty entertaining, except when you hit the inexplicably placed impassible guardrail.

[21Kid]

Yeah, that's what Novi, Dennis, Boda and I were doing the other day.

CANNONBALL RUN!!!!! :lol:

[novicius]

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=742121&full=true I'll definitely be online tonight. :shocker:

[thesameguy]

Now that I've sorted out how to choose which championship in each city I've just been knocking out the Off-Road stuff so I never have to do it again.

They are terrible, aren't they? I guess I don't mind them so much for the trucks, but when I've spent significant effort building a track weapon and the road suddenly vaporizes I get pretty annoyed. I find zero fun in pushing a classic Alfa Romeo through the forest on a suggested, largely nonsensical route. It's not challenging, it's not fun. The least they could have done was kept these races to road *looking* routes instead of crashing through vineyards and such. This is easily the most disappointing aspect of this game. Thank Dog the rest of it is so solid or I'd have turned it off after the first race.

[novicius]

...when I've spent significant effort building a track weapon...
Your first mistake. :assclown:

[thesameguy]

I may have overstated my effort level. But I did click on at least eight or ten different things. :lol:

[Kchrpm]

Rally Fighter + off road filter = WINNER ?

[21Kid]

Yeah, there aren't really any "tracks" in the game. I agree though. The off-road races should be limited to rally, suv, etc...
Super cars and classics have no business going over the river and thru the woods.

[novicius]

Muscle cars > all others. :hard:

Nothin' like running a lil' moonshine through the countryside!

[thesameguy]

Rally Fighter + off road filter = WINNER ?

It might, but I think it's alone in the "Extreme Offroad" category, though maybe the Raptor and Ramrunner are in that class too? I can't be arsed to look. What I can say is that the Rally Fighter is REALLY twitchy on road, so any of those events that are mixed surface it might have a serious handicap. It's fantastic offroad, though, and on first blush seems better than the Raptor (which I drove in a showcase event one time).


Muscle cars > all others. :hard:

Nothin' like running a lil' moonshine through the countryside!

Generally not really my style, but in FH2 I can't much argue. I have had more fun in the Z28 and my generic brand white label Challenger than any other cars. Although the Alfa Romeo TZ2 is, quite bluntly, brilliant.

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=782434&full=true

It doesn't mind the deluge one bit.

[novicius]

Yep I also fell in love with that TZ2 -- sublime. :up:

[novicius]

Generally not really my style, but in FH2 I can't much argue. I have had more fun in the Z28 and my generic brand white label Challenger than any other cars.
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=814608&full=true Yep, good times. :toast:


Although the Alfa Romeo TZ2 is, quite bluntly, brilliant. It doesn't mind the deluge one bit.
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=812807&full=true Truth!

[novicius]

More Escalade pics plzkthxbai
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=812821&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=812829&full=true Done! :devil:

[novicius]

My Z28 is the car my GTA isn't. It is, in a word, amazeballs.
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=812769&full=true

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=812746&full=true

You know, I wish that I had Jessie's girl. :cool:

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Included just for grins: a close-in money-shot of the rain effects. :popcorn:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/Handlers/GetPhoto.ashx?game=fh2&id=812740&full=true I've kept my '79 Z28 in D-class (for now) and it's still a thick-knuckled good time even as a bottom dweller. :up:

[novicius]

I do really like that anything goes as long as it fits within the class. A, B, C, etc... It doesn't *have* to be a sports car or SUV. But, we could always self-impose those rules if we wanted to.
I wouldn't mind trying out self-imposed limits; if we're Road Trippin' and vote on whatever class and someone says "Muscle Cars only!" or "Hot Import Nights!" or "Eurobangin'!", etc. then we pick cars in that class accordingly. I don't care about other limits like AWD or wings or whatever (hell, there were AWD Mustangs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_(first_generation)#1965_Mustang_AWD_P rototype) and the big block AWD Jensen FF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jensen_FF) in the '60's) but limiting by flavor might be fun for those of us running together.

I did some Road Tripping last night with the dirty, dirty Public :smh: and I'll be on again tonight. :toast:

[Tom Servo]

I just got that tz2, it's still in the "being restored" phase of things. Looking forward to trying it, it was the last of my barn finds.

[thesameguy]

I did an auto-upgrade to A and it's a hoot. A tiny amount of suspension work and some adjustments to 6th gear and it's about as perfect as i could want. :up:

[Tom Servo]

It's amazing how often I have to hard reset my Xbox when playing this.