I still argue there’s a shit ton of astroturfing happening on social media when it comes to politics these days.
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I still argue there’s a shit ton of astroturfing happening on social media when it comes to politics these days.
This zero sum shit is what I see from pretty much all the progressives. Because clearly if you don't think we can implement M4A now as Bernie purports, you are against people having any type of health care.</sarcasm> :rolleyes:
Healthcare is not mutually exclusive with M4A, and I wish y'all wouldn't act like it is.
I totally agree. I don't quite understand why Bernie is so stubborn about M4A. Why does it have to be his way or the high way?
Likewise, I don't understand why Biden need to veto M4A even if congress put it forward for him to sign. Why? It'll bankrupt the federal government? Really? Are we worried about bankrupting the government now?
The objective should just be to make basic healthcare available to all... do it thru obamacare or M4A or whateveryougonnacallit... I don't really care. Obama couldn't get it done. Will Biden be able to?
If some of the poor americans end up being left behind... guess which race will likely be the ones stuck in that left behind group? White people? Latinos? Asians?
I do hope Biden wins... and I do hope Biden will truly return the favor to black americans. However, somehow, I don't think that's gonna happen. Anyway, we'll see.
At the moment, it really doesn't matter who's in the WH. Trump could not sign the Paris accord, but globally, we are already reducing carbon emissions at a never thought possible level now! Even without Bernie, I'm pretty sure even the poor will now have some sort of healthcare... hopefully at least medicaid for all. Although without Andrew Yang, we're going to have UBI for a while.
God... or Mother Nature, will dictate what's the right thing to do whether we like it or not! :p
Of course, may the most appropriate person end up at the WH of course. Trump really need to be thrown out one way or another.
Except ... Biden hasn't vetoed M4A. You're stating a future possibility as a fact. Clearly you have a vessel that can travel across time. While you're at it, holla at me with the winning lottery numbers for tonight. :rolleyes:
On the healthcare front:
https://www.newsweek.com/over-7-mill...n-have-1496925
And
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/05/hea...avirus-losses/
Hopefully Biden’s plans work towards addressing things like this because as it looks right now, a lot of people are going to be without insurance, and those with it will see higher prices due to this pandemic.
Okay, perhaps future facts are not true... he could eat his words later by actually signing it? Lord knows.
Still, I was basing my criticism on articles such as this one: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/bide...on-health.html
I really don't see what would be the benefit of saying stuff like that? Just to piss off the progressives as stupid idiots who are unwilling to face reality? We can't afford it means we can't afford it. Even if a republican congress hypothetically pass this bill, "I WILL NOT SIGN IT!"
Why say that? I don't get it.
Hopefully once he's in the WH, he'll forget about what he said.
Can we stop fighting now and just wish Biden will win?
And if he doesn't win, can yous stop blaming it on me again?
Seriously, I'm not a republican and Hillary didn't lose because of people like me. Dems have to be sincere about where they went wrong in order to truly improve their chances.
The sad thing about Biden is that he wasn't chosen by the people. People were being 'told' to vote for him. Is this how our democracy is suppose to work?
Anyway, I'm too tired to give a damn now.
Biden got the most votes, he was chosen by the people. That’s how that works. He had the most name recognition among moderates, and moderates are a bigger base than progressives. It’s not that complicated.
Biden was trailing in Iowa and NH only doing slighly better than Andrew Yang, remember?
Also, ideally, I'd like to see candidates drop out because money or support is running out... like Andrew Yang or Kamala... not to just quit because they were being told to quit.
Future primaries really should all just be open/cross party and all happening at the same time to make things easier. Forget about allowing Iowans or SCers decide who's viable or not. The final top 2 candidates(could be of the same party) will then be on the ballot during general election. Make it less about party vs party but more about which candidate is truly better.