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    Let’s go back four or five posts:

    “Guns have no benefit other than for farmers”

    Farmers here don’t have full-auto AR-15s. They have single-shot bolt action rifles at best. That’s all they need.

    All of the following arguments fall apart like flimsy porno storylines.

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    Also, I wouldn’t worry about the US government being ‘incorruptible’. I’d be more worried about the population of that country allowing it to happen in the first place.

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    Swervo, Not trying to move anything.

    Just pointng out that it's unlikely that humanity will ever learn to give up arms altogether.

    We are pretty barbaric to the core. Emotional stupidity will always trump logic and reason for now and the near future.

    Guns are pretty similar to speech and religion, most of time they are full of shit useless and may even be harmful, but that doesn't mean we absolutely need to deny this freedom to people because they are not absolutely totally useless, especially under the reign of some totalitarian regime.

    Barbaric problems require barbaric solutions. It is not a preferred solution but people's last line of defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rare White Ape View Post
    Also, I wouldn’t worry about the US government being ‘incorruptible’. I’d be more worried about the population of that country allowing it to happen in the first place.
    I understand the stupidity for having guns around, Jesus clearly said those who live by the sword, die by the sword. This is why I don't own guns yet. I'm only ready to own one when I'm ready to fight to the death because my neighborhood is just too fucked up due to whatever reasons.

    Anyway, So you're more worried about the American people than Trump? American people having assault rifles really won't harm other nations you know. And if our govt becomes truly a govt of stupid people, I suppose you could be afraid of Americans..., but rest assured that should the day comes when this nation go nuts and becomes a threat to Australia, I'd pick up a rifle to shoot my govt down!

    I think there are only 3 nations 'backwards' enough to include owning guns as constitutional right. Mexico and Guatemala have both became more 'forward' thinking by making it harder and harder to exercise such constitutional rights.

    For Mexico, yeah, it sure worked out that they now have less bloody revolutions. If that's the solution Mexicans wanted, it's been a great success. For sure Mexico has far fewer crazy mass shooters than US too. However, I can't help but wonder that if Mexicans were armed as heavily as Americans, could the drug cartels be as powerful now...

    When govt or law and order cease to function properly, when the surrounding deteriorates and becomes increasingly barbaric, guns will be the only solution left.

    You just can't reason with Nazis or drug cartels and expect them to give up their ways. You can only either shoot them or be shot. Living under their rule is not even worth it. When you have no guns, the only choices left are to hope they won't kill you and perhaps to just kill yourself.

    The main problem with US is that we are not under a totalitarian regime and we don't have drug cartels... times are relatively good. We really don't have a good reason to have that many guns now... so the only justifications now are just for profit and fun and to prepare for a possible doomsday scenario... During good times, of course having this many guns around can be very problematic. We just need to find a way to reach the right balance between order and chaos I guess... Doomsday will come. Hopefully not within my nor my daughter's generation. But I don't think it's wise to take away future generation's gun rights or making it too restrictive as in Mexico.

    I think a lot of mass shootings today in the US is not due to insufficient gun control "laws", but insufficient gun control! We're not even properly 'enforcing' existing laws and a lot of owners are also very irresponsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rare White Ape View Post
    Also, I wouldn’t worry about the US government being ‘incorruptible’. I’d be more worried about the population of that country allowing it to happen in the first place.
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    Well, I've briefly covered the perfect storm of things that would need to occur before a Nazi-style government would ever again come to power and be able to enact the terrible things that it would want to do (in this post for example). The fact is that the voting public is the first line of protection for tyranny and there are far too many steps along the way before anything really horrible would be let loose without being tested by the judicial system.

    So, I'm not worried about the population of the USA, I'd be more worried about the population as a whole letting bad things happen to themselves than I am about Billi's doomsday scenario of the US government being corruptible.

    I'm sorry if that wasn't clear

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    hey, new school shooting in Santa Fe, 8 kids dead so far

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    https://splinternews.com/santa-fe-sh...sis-1826143245


    It’s been happening everywhere. I’ve always kind of felt like eventually it was going to happen here too. I wasn’t surprised, I was just scared.

    Growing up in America.

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    But you know you can overthrow a corrupt government - just costs you a hundred or so kids each year for this right.
    That’s the price of Freedom!

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    When you overthrow a government you get to pick a new one. The government overthrows itself every four years. But the last time they picked a new one they put a tangerine potato in the big office.

    Is that really a right that we can trust them with?
    Last edited by Rare White Ape; May 18th, 2018 at 05:36 PM.

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