Well, he has been arrested at least. At a minimum, they've got him on the Tannerite possession and Indiana would probably like to have a word about the rest of it, so I'd imagine there's a shot.
Well, he has been arrested at least. At a minimum, they've got him on the Tannerite possession and Indiana would probably like to have a word about the rest of it, so I'd imagine there's a shot.
It seems there were a lot of team/cast members from the local theme parks, Disney, Universal, Sea World were at the club that night....so there's a larger feeling of loss for those places that are supposed to be happy and escapist for people
Especially when he was on the FBI list and had been interviewed twice for connections with IS.Originally Posted by Godson
One thing that bothers me is whenever something like this happens and people say "This isn't the time to discuss gun control, it's a time to mourn the victims".
I can imagine if there was a bunch of accidents caused by faulty seat belts or airbags and one of the automotive companies saying "This isn't the time to discuss car safety, it's a time to mourn the victims", they'd be completely destroyed by the general public for that kind of statement. But the mouthpieces for the NRA and gun companies consistently get away with it.
Well, it could be argued quite successfully that this isn't a gun problem, since 3 attacks happened in Europe in countries where guns are illegal. This is very specifically a radical Islam problem, not a gun problem. This is more a case of someone deliberately driving a lorry into a car head on, making the aforementioned safety devices irrelevant. This cunt would have found a way anyway.
It's not specifically an Islam problem here because it's not a whole lot different than other mass shooting events in America, many of which are unrelated to Islam.
http://timelines.latimes.com/deadlie...ting-rampages/
So is this a concern because of potential ISIS ties? Yes. Is this a concern because of mass shooting trends in the US? Yes. Is this a concern because it's a large scale hate crime? Yes.
This event was multiple things. It was an act of terrorism. It was a lone wolf mass shooter. It was a hate crime.
and with that...politically, if this was a white guy...it would have helped Hillary's campaign I think, but since it was a radicalized ISIS sympathizer, it instead helps Trump's campaign
"Unfortunately" for Trump, the shooter was born and raised in the US, obtained the gun legally, and killed a 'good guy with a gun' before the massacre.
If you generalise to other mass shootings then I agree, but this specific mass shooting was very specifically a radical Islam problem, and I seriously doubt that even a complete ban on firearms would have stopped it.
Well you can easily get the drop on someone when they're not expecting it, but with 103 shot, on this one you would have to argue that yes, a few other people inside the club with guns might have cut the massacre a little shorter.
Last edited by LHutton; June 13th, 2016 at 10:35 AM.
No, a gun ban will not stop the most extreme elements from attacking groups they hate.
That is not unique to Islam, either.
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