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    ooh, I have a BIG question!

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    Was Luke's story arc already started in The Force Awakens? I mean the scene where he is watching something burning and putting his robotic hand on R2D2 was shown in th e TFA trailers (and was it in a flashback or other scene also)? I mean MAYBE they shot it without context, but maybe they didn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rare White Ape View Post
    Y’see, I don’t - literally - don’t know where the problem lies with TLJ.

    I loved it. I hold SW in as much esteem as I hold The Legend of Zelda, Lego, and I loved it. Every minute of it.

    *looks over at shelving crammed with Zelda, SW, Lego and SW Lego crap*

    So it feels like there’s an argument going on in the far reaches of the internet that I feel totally disconnected from. It’s probably not helped by the fact that I choose to put very little effort to seek out fanboy opinions on anything these days, so it’s fair to say that I’m largely disengaged from what the prevailing opinion on things should be.

    Yeah Snoke was a wasted opportunity, and Finn’s side quest was a bit pointless, but outside of that, this film kicked arse.

    I fully agree about Rose, too. She kicked arse (“OMG you’re Finn!” Next minute, ZAP! Hahahahaha!) and Tran is an awesome and adorable human being.
    THIS.
    ALL THIS.
    I really can't be arsed to waste my time with fanboy nitpicking. And I found the movie great.
    Also... why Luke cannot change? Heck I've changed a lot in character in 20 years and I'm not particularly spiritual...
    Point is, the original movies are full of stupid errors, continuity blunders, wooden acting, ridiculous events and even many of the premises are childish (You do build a giant planet destroyer machine and yet you leave a convenient stupid "destroy it all" loophole in plain sight, and so on)... and yet we do love them dearly.
    I bet, if they would have come out in this age, they would have nitpicked hard by what I call contemporary virtual scavengers, aka franchise rabid fanboys.

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    Carlo -
    Spoiler:
    I thought that was supposed to be a reflection of just how much darkness and power he saw in Ben. I understand your line of thinking, and I don't have any argument against, but that was my reaction to it. Luke's outlook was my indication of just how corrupt and unredeemable he considered Ben, but I think your opinion is just as valid.

    In the end, Luke refused to kill Vader partially because he had the emperor behind him provoking him, making it pretty clear whose side that kill would be helping.

    Conversely, Luke only thought of killing Ben for a split second. Unfortunately it was a very bad split second in a very bad place.


    MR2 -
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    That shot of Luke, the burning and R2 was definitely the night that Kylo destroyed the Jedi Academy.
    Get that weak shit off my track

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    Quote Originally Posted by novicius View Post
    This didn't give you pause, Mick? It should have.

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    EDIT: D'oh! Excellent point -- my bad, sorry!
    Why would that give me pause? Itís part of a deep and complex storyline, and has no bearing on whether or not I enjoyed the film.

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    In thinking about the original trilogy:

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    I wasn't around when they came out, so I wonder how many people complained when Emperor Palpatine's origin and rise to power was never questioned or explained.

    I wonder how many people complained when Darth Vader, who had shown zero compassion or humanity outside of rage and a thirst for power, decided to become good at the very end.

    I wonder how many people complained that we were never given a single hint about who Luke & Leia's mother was, and no character ever seemed to question it or care about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rare White Ape View Post
    Why would that give me pause? It’s part of a deep and complex storyline, and has no bearing on whether or not I enjoyed the film.
    Ok then your concept of the character differs from mine (and Mark Hamill's for that matter). So... agree to disagree?

    I mean c'mon, the movie is made. You will be able to buy it in a few months. It's all good, it's part of the lore moving forward.

    We're just tracking the fallout and talking nerdstuff at this point.

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    I actually fully empathise with why Luke thought about it. I agree with blerpa. Fanboys just be complaining about stuff not fitting their worldview, most likely because they don't have much real-world experience from, you know, life and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novicius View Post
    Ok then your concept of the character differs from mine (and Mark Hamill's for that matter). So... agree to disagree?
    I dunno. What are we disagreeing with?

    Also, itís been a week. Can we go full spoiler now? Pretty please?

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    Let's not forget that Luke did change his mind and wasn't going to go through with it.

    (I tried to make that vague enough to avoid spoilers/tags)

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    If we can both spoil and not spoil it, letís refer to it as The Potential Shart.

    When he nearly sharted, he reconsidered, realised what he was about to get himself into, then stopped. The sullen, deathly look in his eyes spoke of the fleeting dally with the Dark Side.

    It turned into an unavoidably runny shit anyway, and the rest is history.

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