Page 1 of 8 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 78

Thread: SLM's photographic, artistic conundrum/crisis

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    1,613

    SLM's photographic, artistic conundrum/crisis

    I think I've come to realize that the reason I hate it when people call me a photographer is that the label of photographer conjures up such an incredibly shitty connotation for me. But yet at the same time, I fully understand why professional photographers are forced to be such crapheads sometimes.

    I'm either fortunate enough or foolish enough to have a steady job that pays the bills and then some. I don't have to be hawkish about protecting how and where the photos I take are used, because I'm in no way dependent on them to generate revenue for me to live on. I really detest seeing a photographer's watermark in photos online. To me, doing that does two things.

    First off, putting a stamp in the corner of a photo says to the world that you've decided that this photo is good enough that its existence must be controlled, protected, and credited. I don't want to do that. If I take a photo, I want the people looking at it to decide if its good or not. Putting a little mark in the corner is just so desperate to me. It's the epitome of self-validation.

    Second, whenever the photo is of someone performing, which I like to take photos of, it just feels like it's taking all of the credit. I can appreciate the work and talent that goes into taking great photos, but at the end of the day, if you took a photo of someone else doing what they do, it just doesn't feel right to me to put your name in the corner. What did you really do aside from show up and take pictures?

    Because I don't depend on taking photos for revenue, I want to be better than this. If you want to call taking photos art, then I want to do it and I want people to enjoy it for the sake of what it is, not feel like I'm cramming it down their throats as something that should be worthy of their admiration.

    But at the same time, if what I'm doing is something people think is good, I want to be known for it, which admittedly is hard when there's nothing tying my photos back to me once they're dispersed onto the interwebs. One band has used my photos for their own use, and I'm happy about it. I'm just happy that something I made was considered by the people I was taking the photo of to have accurately captured themselves to the point that they wanted it to represent them. But at the same time, no one knows I took the photo.

    In a perfect world, I want to be a photographer people want to have take photos of them, but that they can't hire, because it was never about the money to begin with.

    Does any of this make any sense?

  2. #2
    Crime Fighter Cam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Posts
    2,480
    There's nothing wrong with wanting to be proud of your artwork. There is also nothing wrong with giving your artwork away.

    You are insulting the people that do make art for a living by saying things like, "...the label of photographer conjures up such an incredibly shitty connotation..." (So, artists are shitty?) and, "...professional photographers are forced to be such crapheads..." (Not the ones I know.) and, "...Putting a little mark in the corner is just so desperate to me. It's the epitome of self-validation." (So, me signing my work is desperate and self-validating?) Copying an artists work without their permission is immoral, illegal and just not cool. Unfortunately, it happens all too often; often enough that photographers have to put their signature on their photos, lest someone use them without permission.

    Just showing up and taking pictures is not photography. Anyone can do that. When you take photos, don't you think about framing, staging, light, action, etc? As you know, there is more to it than just pointing your camera and pressing the button.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    3,569
    I got progressively more irritated as I read through the post, and decided to stop reading after the "First off" paragraph.

  4. #4
    What does the Bat say? Jason's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Posts
    2,080

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    1,613
    You guys should probably disregard most of the things I say. I'm a very mentally distraught person who occasionally spouts things like this. In my head it all makes sense, but perhaps it has been distorted too greatly by my own imperfect neurological processes as to be of any real use to anyone else aside from a seemingly offensive rant. I promise I'm not like this in real life.

  6. #6
    What does the Bat say? Jason's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Washington, DC
    Posts
    2,080
    You think way too much.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    1,613
    Yes, but I have a lot to think about.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    3,569
    One band has used my photos for their own use, and I'm happy about it. I'm just happy that something I made was considered by the people I was taking the photo of to have accurately captured themselves to the point that they wanted it to represent them. But at the same time, no one knows I took the photo.
    I did start (but didn't finish) reading the screen again and noticed the above bit.

    That's your choice. Me, I'd like a minor credit somewhere in writing, even if I don't think the photo is any good and even though I don't make any money from photography (it's purely a hobby). But hey, it's your photos that you have spent a fair amount of money and time taking. People are entitled to at least claim credit for their photos, no matter how "desperate" you think it is, and quite frankly I think people should.

    If someone passes off your work as theirs at work, or their idea as yours even in a non-work context, is that cool? Or is it "desperate" to claim some entitlement to be recognised as the originator of the idea?

  9. #9
    Crime Fighter Cam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Posts
    2,480
    Quote Originally Posted by Sad, little man View Post
    I'm a very mentally distraught person
    Seek help from a therapist.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    1,613
    Done and done. Only of marginal help.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •