Cue YW....
Cue YW....
Nah it's ok, I'm good.
Cop: Why were you speeding?
Driver: Testing my Semi-Automatic
Cop: *draws gun* GET OUT OF THE CAR NOW!!
Is this the right room for an argument ?
For me, what I care about is that the ratio between engine speed and wheel speed is under the explicit control of the driver.
So a manual counts, because it's fixed until the driver puts the clutch in and chooses a different ratio.
A DSG counts, assuming it has a 'manual' mode where it stays in the gear the driver picks. Ok, on initial getaway it slips the clutch for you, but once moving it can be directly controlled.
A normal auto fails on two counts, not only does it change gear automatically but the torque converter also allows for engine and wheels to 'float' relative to each other, unless kept locked up.
Basically I like tackling a sinuous road and easing the throttle on and off to trim the car's line, which only works properly if the ratio is fixed (including under deceleration, ie engine braking).
If the road conditions are wet, turning traction control off might help reduce the probability of stalling. If the traction control system was designed assuming an automatic transmission.Originally Posted by Yw-slayer
But it's not possible to stall an auto engine surely, even with TCS on? Admittedly I've never tried.
I'm not immediately sure how you could stall any engine with TCS.
With a clutch, if the TCS works by cutting power to the engine when wheel slippage is detected, if the TCS detects a little slippage as the clutch is first being engaged (e.g. because of a wet road), it can cut the power below what is needed to finish engaging the clutch without stalling. (Because the TCS design is assuming an automatic tranmission, i.e. torque converter).
Are you talking about a car that has been transmission swapped? If a totally factory car has TCS, whatever module controls TCS is certainly going to be aware of what type of transmission is equipped. Nobody would send a car out into the world programmed for incorrect parts.
Except maybe Fiat, because that seems like something they would do.
The transmission has not been swapped.
The basic assumption of the overall TCS design is presumably an automatic transmission (no clutch).
Perhaps the TCS does use different parameters for a known manual transmission/clutch, but its parameters seem to be such that I find it easier to avoid stalling when attempting to start moving in the wet by turning that TCS off.
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