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Thread: Max Verstappen, future world champion?

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    Max Verstappen, future world champion?

    In the announcement video released for the return of the Dutch GP at Zandvoort, amongst all the marketing speak, the following statement appears overlaid on video of Max Verstappen's: "future world champion?"

    So, I ask you the same question.

    I'm pretty certain that the 2019 WDC will go to one of the Mercedes drivers, so we can asume that Max is at 102 GP entries (86 so far, plus the remaining 16 for this season).


    Here's how many races it took other drivers to achieve their first world championship:

    Rosberg (Jr.) - 202
    Mansell - 183
    Button - 169
    Raikkonen - 122
    Hakkinen - 111
    Prost - 90
    Senna - 79
    Alonso - 68
    Vettel - 62
    Schumacher - 52
    Piquet - 49
    Hamilton - 35
    Villeneuve - 33
    Last edited by FaultyMario; May 14th, 2019 at 07:53 AM.
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    I think a fairer comparison would be how many seasons did it take a driver to become champion.

    Given that we have more races/season, these #s are kind skewed.

    Also, looking at the 2 extremes: I think Rosberg was extremely unlucky to be paired with Hamilton just when the car is getting good. (I think he's a pretty good driver, capable of beating pretty much everyone include an older Schumacher, but we all know he's not as naturally good as Hamilton. I'm glad he finally won one! )

    And JV was just lucky to be in a competitive car so quickly.

    Anyway, anything short of a serious accident, pretty sure Max will be a multi-champ eventually.

    Out of curiosity, who in recent F-1 history, Piquet onward, was really good and developed a reputation being #1 driver of a team over the years but retired without ever winning a championship?

    Nobody really came to mind... that can match the level of Max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    I think a fairer comparison would be how many seasons did it take a driver to become champion.
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    Races before WDC Seasons before WDC WDCs Notes
    Rosberg Jr 202 10 1
    Mansell 183 11.5 1 Was 1st in the standings in his 7th season until his car retired from the lead in the last race
    Button 169 10 1
    Raikkonen 122 7 1
    Hakkiinen 111 7.5 2
    Prost 90 6 4 First to win back to back titles in 26 years
    Senna 79 5 3
    Alonso 68 4 2 Spent the 2002 season testing for Renault
    Vettel 62 3.5 4
    Schumacher 52 3.5 7 First title came during highly controversial 1994 season
    Piquet 49 3 3
    Hamilton 35 2 5 2007... coulda, shoulda, woulda
    Villeneuve 33 2 1
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    It's crazy that you couldn't make it more than one sentence without moving the goalposts.

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    Two things sping to mind. Kimi should have another championship, was he ever in contention for another one? 2005 maybe? was that the year he kept braking the McLarens (or the cars were letting him down, depending who you ask).

    Why the fuck does Piquet have 3 championships? That seems totally unfair. When I'm emperor of the universe, I'm going to take two from him and give one to Mansell and award the other to Elio de Angelis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dodint View Post
    It's crazy that you couldn't make it more than one sentence without moving the goalposts.
    What do you mean?
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    I think heís referring to my request?

    Anyway, I guess the order doesnít change much other than for Mansell... the guy who waited the most years for it!!! Wow!

    I also, and Iím sure most, would agree kimi deserves multiple as well.

    Back to topic, Max has to be able to win multiple championships given his age and reputation at this point.

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    His biggest hurdle is his attitude. When you look at that list, it's clear he's different from most of them.


    Except Piquet, they're both douchebags. Yet the brazilian took it home in his fourth attempt, young Max is in his sixth.
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    What about Alonso?

    Nowadays, even Senna canít beat Mercedes in that RB Honda/Renault... heíll just have to wait til improvements become enough or jump to another faster team.
    Last edited by Crazed_Insanity; May 14th, 2019 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaultyMario View Post
    What do you mean?
    You snuck your reply in, I was referring to Billi doing his best to guide the discussion away from the prompt.

    I was the first to vote "No", unsurprisingly.

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