Page 175 of 175 FirstFirst ... 75125165173174175
Results 1,741 to 1,746 of 1746

Thread: F1 2021

  1. #1741
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    9,846
    Can't fault F1 drivers for pushing things to the limit!

    However, yes, the inconsistencies are getting silly. We need less rules that rely on a 'human' officials to make the proper calls. If human intervention is absolutely needed... then maybe a red flag or pause or time out like in ball games to sort things out properly?

    2021 officials were truly a disasterours. Ham's lost was hard to swallow and Max's win wasn't very satisfying. However, it was awesome watching them drivers push to their various limits to one up each other.

  2. #1742
    Severed Member JoeW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Tampa, Fl
    Posts
    1,645
    Do you think DRS encourages dive bomb attempts? Seems like most the ludicrous dive bomb attempts come after DRS zones because it gives them a false sense that they can attempt something they would never normally be able to attempt. Maybe if updated aero regs actually work then we could do without DRS.

  3. #1743
    Junior Potato
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    7,900
    I think the answer might lie in enforcing the rule that an overtaking driver shall leave room on the track for another car on the exit of a corner.

    These dive bomb passes seem to be evolving into a sort of dirt track slide job that you see with sprint cars, but there is less gentlemanly finesse seen in F1 than in local weekend dirt racing if you can believe that.

    These F1 drivers are using pure corner speed to overtake in a corner, rival be damned, rather than allowing it to be a fair duel. The suggestion that DRS could be influencing it may be correct in that the following car has a higher relative speed and will thus force its way onto the apex if you accept that braking distances only change very slightly.

    But that doesnít explain why we see it in slower corners. Itís a behavioural thing, and we have evidence of it being practiced in junior divisions.

  4. #1744
    Severed Member JoeW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Tampa, Fl
    Posts
    1,645
    I am really anxious to see the new cars and how each constructor differs in design. I imagine they will look quite different than the mock mule car that has been shown for awhile now.

  5. #1745
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    7,073
    Yeah, for all the talk of Max doing this to people, Lewis does it constantly as well. It's now the right way to pass in a corner, because most of the time even if the driver on the outside is able to avoid contact and maintain position, they'll just be forced to give it back for exceeding track limits. I still think it was that kind of move that led to the crash at Monza - Lewis sent it into the first part of the chicane and Max had to go wide to avoid contact, he hit a sausage kerb unsettling the car coming into the second half and they crashed. Max probably could have avoided some of that by cutting the second half of the chicane, but then he risks being forced to give up the position.

    I'd like to see them change the rule that if someone has to go off track to avoid a crash, then they can't be considered "gaining an advantage" by using runoff.

    EDIT: That was in response to RWA, not a weird tangent off how the new cars look.

  6. #1746
    Ask me about my bottom br FaultyMario's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    ox.mx
    Posts
    6,589
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Yeah, for all the talk of Max doing this to people, Lewis does it constantly as well. It's now the right way to pass in a corner, because most of the time even if the driver on the outside is able to avoid contact and maintain position, they'll just be forced to give it back for exceeding track limits. I still think it was that kind of move that led to the crash at Monza - Lewis sent it into the first part of the chicane and Max had to go wide to avoid contact, he hit a sausage kerb unsettling the car coming into the second half and they crashed. Max probably could have avoided some of that by cutting the second half of the chicane, but then he risks being forced to give up the position.

    I'd like to see them change the rule that if someone has to go off track to avoid a crash, then they can't be considered "gaining an advantage" by using runoff.
    Yeah, in the case of Max and Lewis shoving people off as they pass them, that's a bit different from two other situations and it really depends on the people doing the stewarding for each particular race.

    Another situation is the "never going to make the corner" pass, which I think only Max does it regularly, and which Leclerc and Vettel have been vocal against.

    The one thing that really irks me is the Masi-instigated "do whatever the fuck you want on lap one, I really don't care" rule, which IMHO evolved into the "I'll do whatever the fuck I want for a restart, you peeps can eat shit" protocol.

    A couple of examples:



    acket.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •