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    SCOTUS with solid decision in Janus today. Non-union members can no longer be forced to pay union dues to government unions. Bravo.

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    Justice Kennedy has announced he's retiring on July 31st. You can likely say goodbye to Roe v. Wade.

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    I actually support opt-in union membership, as long as the individual is left to their own to negotiate their own wages/benefits as well. If you're not paying into the union, you shouldn't also get the union's benefits.

    Kennedy retiring (and I'm assuming RBG before 2020) will really set this country back, but it's what white people want, so I guess that's what we get.

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    28 year old latina democratic socialist ousted a 10 term democratic incumbent in NY.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/polit...ary/index.html

    I wonder what that means Neanderthal?

    There's a video interview... and for some reason, I don't think the CNN reporter is very happy about this outcome. As if, how can you ungrateful people be unhappy about the status quo democratic party?!?!? Look at Trump! You want Trump!?!?!?

    Voters can definitely turnout to vote for somebody who'd truly listen to them. Even in a midterm election.

    I just hope this 28year old will know what to do now given this opportunity. Hope Master Bernie Sanders will train her well.

    Hope other democrats will also learn to take money from rich donors carefully... don't forget regular folks! You can outspend your opponent 10 to 1 and still lose... Hillary is not in charge anymore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    I'm not even a trump supporter, your saying still didn't convince me that I should've gone Hillary.
    Well, you always were an irresponsible fuck-up incapable of taking responsibility for yourself or your actions. So here we are again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
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    28 year old latina democratic socialist ousted a 10 term democratic incumbent in NY.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/polit...ary/index.html

    I wonder what that means Neanderthal?

    There's a video interview... and for some reason, I don't think the CNN reporter is very happy about this outcome. As if, how can you ungrateful people be unhappy about the status quo democratic party?!?!? Look at Trump! You want Trump!?!?!?

    Voters can definitely turnout to vote for somebody who'd truly listen to them. Even in a midterm election.

    I just hope this 28year old will know what to do now given this opportunity. Hope Master Bernie Sanders will train her well.

    Hope other democrats will also learn to take money from rich donors carefully... don't forget regular folks! You can outspend your opponent 10 to 1 and still lose... Hillary is not in charge anymore...
    It means a young female Latina candidate in a district that is majority minority, and leans heavily Democratic, won an election over an old white man who was out of touch with his electorate.

    And, by the way, she wasn't endorsed by Saint Bernie, patron saint of i'm voting my feelings. She did have the backing of Our Revolution, his super PAC. but he never clearly endorsed her. And, turnout was 15%. Hardly the stuff that'll shake the national picture.

    It's literally, the first victory of the "progressive wing" (the liberal tea party!) since Trump's election.

    I'm very happy for her. She ran a fantastic race, and knocked on a tonne of doors. She will, I hope, herald a new batch of younger, more outspoken Democratic nominees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    I actually support opt-in union membership, as long as the individual is left to their own to negotiate their own wages/benefits as well. If you're not paying into the union, you shouldn't also get the union's benefits.

    Kennedy retiring (and I'm assuming RBG before 2020) will really set this country back, but it's what white people want, so I guess that's what we get.
    Yeah. You don't get the benefit of the union if you don't pay into it. It's basic common sense.

    I'm leaving my union job (oh, by the way, i'm moving to Dallas next week!) and would rather I still was in the union. Talked to our reps yesterday, hopefully we can organise and get union representation at more locations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
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    You can say it all you want, but it won't bring Hillary to the White House, nor will it change anything in the present. It also won't change the future... the future will change when trump supporters get tired of his shit on their own. The more you say, they'll only double down on him more.

    I'm not even a trump supporter, your saying still didn't convince me that I should've gone Hillary.
    I'm NEVER talking to any Trump supporters in ANY of my posts. Nor in real life. I will say good morning and be cordial but that is the extent of it. I cannot, WILL NOT, have a conversation with anybody who will stand for tolerate racism, misogynism, Islamophobia, sexism, corruption, greed, hate, etc, all because of "her emails." Anybody excusing, neverminding, pooh pooing the above isn't worthy of a single thought from me. And there is NOTHING that can be said to dissuade me of such.

    Especially when the security of said emails is said to be the "reason they couldn't trust her/ couldn't vote for her," (wait, weren't you one of those repeating that shit like a parrot?) meanwhile they can't state a single thing from such emails. Other than a lasagna recipe. Literally, only a lasagna recipe. (Was it lasagna?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taimar View Post
    Well, you always were an irresponsible fuck-up incapable of taking responsibility for yourself or your actions. So here we are again.
    Nice to see you again Taimar, but I honestly don't know what irresponsible fuckups are you talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neanderthal View Post
    I'm NEVER talking to any Trump supporters in ANY of my posts. Nor in real life. I will say good morning and be cordial but that is the extent of it. I cannot, WILL NOT, have a conversation with anybody who will stand for tolerate racism, misogynism, Islamophobia, sexism, corruption, greed, hate, etc, all because of "her emails." Anybody excusing, neverminding, pooh pooing the above isn't worthy of a single thought from me. And there is NOTHING that can be said to dissuade me of such.

    Especially when the security of said emails is said to be the "reason they couldn't trust her/ couldn't vote for her," (wait, weren't you one of those repeating that shit like a parrot?) meanwhile they can't state a single thing from such emails. Other than a lasagna recipe. Literally, only a lasagna recipe. (Was it lasagna?)
    I'm not really a talkative person in RL, but I do believe talking to your opposition is the only way to resolve our polarization. Otherwise each side will simply retreat deeper and deeper into their respective bubbles until the day comes we duke it out with another civil war.

    Racism, sexism, anti-religionism, corruption, greed, hate, etc can exist in both conservative and liberal bubbles.

    In the liberal bubble, people simply pretend they don't exist by practicing political correctness. So on the surface, just like Wells Fargo Bank, it looks like an awesome bank who even cares about gays! But inside, they equal opportunistically fuck over their customers. Also, don't even try to persuade me that in the liberal silicon valley, there's no greed nor corruption nor sexism nor racism... Yes, the mostly white male workforce believes black lives matter! Sure... Current liberal establishment talks the talk, but anyone not brain-washed by this ideology can see that it doesn't walk the walk.

    On the conservative side, they've just became more overtly racist mainly because white males are under assault more and more. The term white privilege has pretty much labeled all white folks, particularly males, as bad guys. Since their ancestors have oppressed us, it's now fair game to oppress them back! Surely not all white folks are privileged. There are poor white folks too. No need to lump all of them together into one group. The idea that we need to treat all humanity with respect, but conservative christians are deplorable subhumans that we shouldn't even talk to because they're just a bunch of dumb racist fucks is a poisonous ideology. Even if they are indeed just a bunch of dumbasses, they are still human and fellow Americans.

    Regarding Hillary, do you guys really believe she can do better than Obama? Yeah, for sure she can do better than Trump I'll give you that, but she's out of touch with those angry deplorable voters. She really had no intentions of caring what those folks want. Heck, she doesn't even care what the Bernie or bust folks want. She could've easily won my vote by selecting a more progressive vp, but nope. Honestly, I don't understand why she picked that VP. He won't help her shore up Bernie votes, nor will he help her shore up center leaning conservative votes... maybe he helped latino votes because he speaks spanish? But then you might as well just pick a latino vp?

    Anyway, America has proven itself that she can overcome racism by voting in Obama. America has also proven that people can still be racist too by voting in Trump, but at least he didn't win the popular vote...

    If DNC is serious about "diversity", then their candidate will have to figure out a way to embrace those "deplorable" americans somehow. Not to continue to ignore them. Unless you kill them or deport them or wall them up somewhere, you're going to have to deal with them one way or another. If they feel like they're being 'listened' to, then maybe we can avoid another Trump or perhaps another civil war.

    But what do I know. We probably will get another Trump and then have a civil war.
    Last edited by Crazed_Insanity; June 28th, 2018 at 12:00 PM.

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