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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    This is not a zero-sum game. Sanders isn't only either magic grandpa or a total crook. Those three are not the only possible people to be president.
    Yeah, that's not it though. Bernie Bros have completely and totally turned me off him, absolutely, with their (dare I say misplaced?) zest for him and their completely illogical approach to getting people on board. And i'm not the only one who feels that way.

    A perfect example is billi shit mouthing Hillary the last two years and now saying i'm dividing the left. This is shit i'm dealing with on twitter everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novicius View Post
    So Memogate is the saying that the Obama Administration relied on Steele's first GOP then DNC/Clinton-funded opposition dossier (that is nonetheless fairly accurate) to green-light FISA applications to spy on Carter Page and the Trump Campaign.

    Opposition dossiers are nothing new and not going away anytime soon. Carter Page left the campaign on September 26th, 2016. The surveillance began on October 21st, 2016, nearly a full month after he left the Trump campaign... but IMO there's no way they weren't tracking him sooner, considering Steele went to the FBI in early July.

    The memo doesn't say what the results of that surveillance was, just that it was based on opposition research (kinda whiny IMO).

    So... if you feel that Trump's collusion with Russia is fabricated (as many/most Conservatives proclaim) then this memo is PROOF of Obama Administration/Clinton Foundation/DNC/Deep State using U.S. Intelligence against a political rival. This is the reason Trump will fire Rosenstein and eventually Mueller.

    On the other hand, if you feel that Trump has indeed been taking heavy Russian money since 2011 personally, then in his businesses (as affirmed by his own sons), and then throughout the Trump Campaign, then this memo is a nothingburger. There's plenty of smoke to justify those FISA approvals, with or without the dossier. #shrug
    This memo stuff is a distraction y'all. Trump was supposed to impose sanctions on Russia. That's the story that's being swamped/ blanketed by this nothingburger of a story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    Either way, US intelligence sucks.
    Spoiler:
    Investigations should've been completed before Trump took office... not be on-going when the russian puppet is already sitting in the oval office. Even if on-going, then it should be a top secret investigation rather than a public one. So top level that the president doesn't even know about it. Whether Trump is really a Russian puppet or not, if you were Trump, why wouldn't you fire Rosenstein and Mueller?

    Intel community also failed miserably for the other side as well. Why the fuck was FBI mentioning emails again right before the election? I really do like Comey a lot, but he deserves to be fired just for that!

    We have a huge divide amongst citizens... and now it's obvious that our government agencies are fractured too. The state of our union right now is amazingly weak.

    Russian meddlers must be very happy now.

    Even if Russians never actually interfered..., they are probably still very happy to see America self destruct.

    I guess the only way to unite this country again is for somebody to attack pearl harbor again? Or perhaps an alien invasion...
    You're just really gullible aren't you?

    I'm going to really try hard to go back to ignoring you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neanderthal View Post
    This memo stuff is a distraction y'all. Trump was supposed to impose sanctions on Russia. That's the story that's being swamped/ blanketed by this nothingburger of a story.
    Yes but if you're Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, Memogate is outrage fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novicius View Post
    Yes but if you're Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, Memogate is outrage fuel.
    As was but her emails gate, uranium one gate, childporn in a pizza shop gate, and so on.

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    Yes and it obviously worked.

    I'm still in the "nothing's going to happen" camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novicius View Post
    Yes and it obviously worked.

    I'm still in the "nothing's going to happen" camp.
    But of course. Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House.

    And they're stacking the courts with their judicial candidates, all the way from the Supreme Court to the court of pets distressed by animatronic toys. And they're firing/ dismissing long term career law enforcement and installing their stooges.

    So yeah, nothing much will happen.

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    Here's a list of "scandals" perpetuated by the right through the many sundry avenues they use to disseminate disinformation, that turned out to be complete phooey. Or when Trump needed a distraction.


    Birtherism.
    Benghazi
    Uranium One
    Pizzagate
    Seth Rich
    The infamous Bowling Green Massacre
    The bugging of Trump Tower


    It's a consistent pattern. If something is going to cause controversy or scandal, they rile up the plebs with some high grade unicorn shit, not the cheap made in China stuff, the really pure unobtanium stuff, and shove it out there, and the masses, ever hungry to go on the warpath against Clinton, swallow it whole and keeping feeding the flames of anger against the Clintons.

    Even ordinary things like passing CHIP, get held up in order to manipulate decision making. They know their agenda is unwholesome, and they are using any means to get it passed.

    And they know we see it, and they are hurrying that shit up as fast as they can. Obstructing Mueller as much as possible while their patsy is in the White House. Above the water the head is bobbing mildly, beneath the surface, the feet are furiously paddling.


    Was there a Clinton Cash story there too that I missed? FBI secret society and texts?

    All distractions.

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    What was Pizzagate?

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    Fucking ridiculous. That's what it was.

    According to Alex Jones, Podesta was operating a kiddie porn operation in the basement of a pizzeria in Pennsylvania (I think?).

    Some fuckwit shows up with an assault rifle and shoots a few times, and he gets arrested. Arrested, because he was a white guy.


    The business didn't even have a basement.

    So yeah, fucking ridiculous.

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