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    Last year I read Cormac McCarthy's The Road -- now that is some hard-hitting bleak literature.

    The movie was pretty flat by comparison, IMO.

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    Pull up a chair and grab the popcorn kids, it's getting good now.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...st-travel-ban/

    Words mean things.

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    Apparently he brought his cheering section to his US Central Command visit.

    Seriously, what the fuck.

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    Alternative Facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G'day Mate View Post
    I've noticed that Trump often ends his sentences with phrases like "... and you understand that" or "... you know that's true" or even "... you probably agree" - he's a master manipulator and seed-planter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sad, little man View Post
    Ha, like fuck he is. He is not a master manipulator. These are verbal tics of someone who's deeply insecure about themselves and what they're saying, but they desperately want people to come along with them and believe them.
    It's actually a pretty common sales technique (Foot-in-the-door technique). Getting the other person to think that they agree with the topic, by agreeing with you. You hear it a lot when you deal with sales people all the time. They do it so often, they probably don't even realize it, it just becomes the way they talk. Getting someone to agree, or say yes to anything, helps open them up to agreeing with the next bigger thing. I sometimes disagree, or say no, to even the most agreeable comments just to throw them off.

    He also uses Social Proof a lot.
    Social proof is a type of conformity. When a person is in a situation where they are unsure of the correct way to behave, they will often look to others for cues concerning the correct behavior. When "we conform because we believe that others' interpretation of an ambiguous situation is more accurate than ours and will help us choose an appropriate course of action,"[1] it is informational social influence. This is contrasted with normative social influence wherein a person conforms to be liked or accepted by others.

    Social proof often leads not only to public compliance (conforming to the behavior of others publicly without necessarily believing it is correct) but also private acceptance (conforming out of a genuine belief that others are correct)
    In fact, Trump uses most of the Six key principles of influence too.
    Reciprocity – People tend to return a favor, thus the pervasiveness of free samples in marketing. In his conferences, he often uses the example of Ethiopia providing thousands of dollars in humanitarian aid to Mexico just after the 1985 earthquake, despite Ethiopia suffering from a crippling famine and civil war at the time. Ethiopia had been reciprocating for the diplomatic support Mexico provided when Italy invaded Ethiopia in 1935. The good cop/bad cop strategy is also based on this principle.
    Commitment and Consistency – If people commit, orally or in writing, to an idea or goal, they are more likely to honor that commitment because of establishing that idea or goal as being congruent with their self-image. Even if the original incentive or motivation is removed after they have already agreed, they will continue to honor the agreement. Cialdini notes Chinese brainwashing of American prisoners of war to rewrite their self-image and gain automatic unenforced compliance. Another example is children being made to repeat the Pledge of Allegiance each morning.
    Social Proof – People will do things that they see other people are doing. For example, in one experiment, one or more confederates would look up into the sky; bystanders would then look up into the sky to see what they were seeing. At one point this experiment aborted, as so many people were looking up that they stopped traffic. See conformity, and the Asch conformity experiments.
    Authority – People will tend to obey authority figures, even if they are asked to perform objectionable acts. Cialdini cites incidents such as the Milgram experiments in the early 1960s and the My Lai massacre.
    Liking – People are easily persuaded by other people that they like. Cialdini cites the marketing of Tupperware in what might now be called viral marketing. People were more likely to buy if they liked the person selling it to them. Some of the many biases favoring more attractive people are discussed. See physical attractiveness stereotype.
    Scarcity – Perceived scarcity will generate demand. For example, saying offers are available for a "limited time only" encourages sales.

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    Kid bringing the tech.

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    Did anyone hear about the Pro-Trump Rally in support of the travel ban in Portland???














    Eight people (yes, 8) attend pro-Trump rally in Portland




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    If you're pro Trump in Portland, perhaps you should, you know, not live in Portland.

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    Oh, it's Portland Maine... Well still...

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