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  1. #12801
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    I think a more interesting question is...
    Is it easier/cheaper to mitigate the effects than to fix the source of the problem.

    Unfortunately that depends very much on what others do. If you are a small nation then the answer is clear - no point going alone in cutting CO2, better off putting your effort into getting your country to cope with the effects.

    It’s a global problem and will need a global solution.
    Unless we get the majority to cut emissions then it’s a waste of effort.

    However that should stop some of the important, but not so large, countries taking a lead and cutting emissions. The net effect of their cuts might be small, but showing they are willing is important.
    But we need USA and China to be onboard or it’s going to be a futile effort.

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    Unless the shit is just poisonous or radioactive or proven really harmful like ddt or older generation refrigerants, I think govt shouldn’t take the banning approach, but instead just encourage renewable developments. CO2 is a naturally occurring compound in our atmosphere after all. Plus, why would Trump or dictators Xi listen to you?

    Slowly wean us off of non-renewable stuffs by making car mpg standards incrementally higher and hope eventually renewable tech can catch up and become price competitive so people would switch over willingly.

    Really no need to make our climate such a political topic.

    Also, surely there are other more dire environmental concerns than CO2? Plastic crap are not naturally occurring and they are now everywhere! I would not be oppose to stop making single use plastic stuffs within 10 years... or maybe even right now!
    Last edited by Crazed_Insanity; Yesterday at 06:48 PM.

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    That's pretty much what cap and trade is. Incentivizing cutting down on greenhouse gasses. And the government has regularly made car mpg standards incrementally higher, though Trump's either tried to or has rescinded the mpg increase requirements that the Obama administration put into place.

    And you don't have to focus on one thing. They're also focusing on "plastic crap", we've had a plastic bag ban for a while now and they just started with the plastic straws. Baby steps, but even those are getting some people bent out of shape.
    Last edited by Tom Servo; Yesterday at 08:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    Really no need to make our climate such a political topic.
    Because it does take govt to either restrict or ban it...

    The reason we are in this mess is that fossil fuels turned out to be cheap and plentiful - we have been burning huge amounts for a decent while.
    The alternatives are not that cheap. And "free market" doesnt work well when the cost of disposal is free but the harm from disposal is big.

    So we need politics to step in. Ban, regulate, tax... do something or the planet will be a big big mess.

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