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    MSNBC finally lifted their ban on Andrew Yang!!! Yeah!

    Interesting video of looking back thru history..., apparently that Carter, Bill Clinton, Obama were all trailing in the polls and then won the eventual nomination seemingly out of nowhere. So it doesn't really pay to be in the lead right now!
    Hang in there Andrew!
    (The title of this video is a bit misleading..., MSNBC is explaining how any of the candidates trailing at the polls might win based on historical data. Video title is simply YangGang's wishful thinking)
    Last edited by Crazed_Insanity; December 5th, 2019 at 11:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaultyMario View Post
    Pete is doing alright with the corporate pac money. What is not alright is he keeping it secret about what he was doing while working for McKinsey, the company that advised ICE to cut down stipends on food, supervision and medical care for detainees and circumvent due process to speed up deportations.

    Public interests my ass! Half the fuckers running for president are just revolving door lobbyists.
    Yeah, I think it's obvious that I'm in the revolutionary camp. Mayor Pete used to be my top favorite because I thought he's gonna be a younger version of Bernie, but he has since lost my interests. I'm not going to pick anyone who accepts corporate money during the primary.

    However, this time around in general election, I'm okay with voting for one of these corporate centrists. Why? Or why I hated Hillary so much? Well, it was because I just thought Hillary to be too arrogant. If you're too far to the right, you're too deplorable... and if you're too far to the left then you don't know what's really best for you. We all know she has great ambitions of becoming a president, but I just didn't feel that she's humble enough to be able to try to understand people who are different from her. At least the current crop of dem candidates now all acknowledge the needs of the progressive left. No candidate dare blow them off as Hillary did and simply expected people to line up because Trump is very very scary...

    Democratic Party itself might still be repeating the same mistake of Hillary... by going after Trump's character with impeachment. I think we've already seen the preview of the outcome with the house votes. The dude is not gonna be thrown out. Dems forcing the issue will only energize Trump's base.

    Dems need to offer the american people more hopeful policies/leadership rather than continue to point out emperor Trump has no cloths.

    If you present a better option, people will easily be able to vote for that new emperor. Asking them to admit that they're stupid just won't be easy...
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    You really need to go and listen to the "basket of deplorables" speech or read the transcript.

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    I know I know, I think you or Swervo had straighten me out on that speech already.

    However, the point is that trump voters felt like Trump hears their pain and Hillaryís only laughing at them. Likewise, Bernie or bust folks didnít feel like they were listened to either. Was is too much to ask to have a more progressive vp on the ticket? Apparently yes. I really didnít understand how does Kaine help her in any way. Would any trump supporters or Bernie supporters change their minds because of Kaine? I guess she knows what sheís doing...

    Anyway, Iím just glad current field of dem candidates donít dare completely brush off the progressives this time around.

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    To interject a bit of international news: Emmanuel Macron used to be a socialist... and then eventually labeled himself a centrist liberal...

    So I think what's happening to France could perhaps give us a glimpse of what America might be like if we ended up with a president Hillary.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/78547...ers-second-day

    Yeah, we would've ended up with a classier president Hillary, but neither president would really end up taking care of the little guys. The 'establishment' pretty much has bipartisan support. I suppose neanderthal is right, Hillary enriching the rich is most likely better to have Trump enriching the rich. Still, I really believe the liberal centrists need to do more soul searching and listen to the people's frustrations.

    Something just isn't right. Nationalism and assholes like Trump was able to take advantage of this and gain power around the world. Removing Trump and resume the path laid out by Obama is most likely not the best path forward. I think it's only a matter of time before France get their own version of Trump... sigh...

    Political elites, I beg you, please pay more attention to the little guys... stop giving your attentions to all the mega corporations!!!

    One of Andrew Yang's idea is to give voters certain amount of 'political' dollars so we can give to which ever candidates we want. I do believe this is probably the only way for us voters to get full attention of our politicians. How else can we voters compete with companies that are too big to fail? When elections are over, our politicians just can't be bothered by us...

    I have to say out of all those candidates, Bernie Sanders is the only dude I trust who won't eventually become a centrist who loves mega-corporation. Even Andrew Yang can't really be fully trusted. Who knows how he'd change once he ended up wearing that Lord of the Ring...

    Considering how Bernie stuck to the same message after decades of public office, we can definitely trust in his integrity. He's the only candidate proven to be as close to Frodo as possible...

    The only other thing I worry about besides his age is his leadership skills... just look at him, after decades of preaching... none of his colleagues listened to him! Gap between rich and poor continued to grow wider and wider. It's very possible that even if he's elected, he'll just be a insignificant 1 termer like Carter. Nice guy for sure, but won't be able to accomplish much... actually Bernie looks more like a grumpy old man than a nice guy...

    Anyway, whoever you pick, please pick somebody who doesn't take money from big corporations! Please! Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOC
    Me waiting on the haters to apologize after we were proven right on Amazon and saved the public billions


    I mean, it's not like the IMF found evidence that lower corporate income tax rates and longer tax holidays are effective in attracting FDI, but not in boosting gross private fixed capital formation or growth. Or is it?
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    Ahmaigahd! Ivanka Trump was friendly to (then British Spy) Christopher Steele in the noughties and kept correspondence with him. Once he was out of the intelligence service and had moved into private practice, they discussed working together.

    The Trumps fucking lied to their GOP handlers who went to the mat for them trying to portray Steele as biased and negatively predisposed. They fucking got their Republican defenders burned! Again! Hahaha!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Internet


    Her: “My name is Ivanka Trump, but my dad calls me Grab ‘Em By the Pussy Galore.”
    Steele: “I must be dreaming.”
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    Sure, why not.

    What the fucking fuck.

    Nobody, and I mean nobody could have ever wrote this shit for a script.

    Jesus christ.

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    But remember guys, you have to put this in context; Hillary was going to be worse!

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    Exactly. Can you imagine?


    Oh yeah, you HAVE to, because it's not a thing. Fuck every person involved with this clusterfucked administration. From the Kool-Aid drinking fluffer Senators, to the intern twat getting starbucks for them.

    Fuck.
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