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    Regarding the State of the UnioM speech...I have two words: not impressed.

    Trump is a great salesman and said all the right things, (even though some of which was followed up by contradictory backhanded remarks). But today is what’s important, and tomorrow, and the day after that. We know he’ll revert back to Twat in Chief very soon, so a flowery speech means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    I think it's clear that America needs a 3rd party if this is the best DNC could offer.

    I personally have no issues with Kennedy name... or even Bill Clinton himself. (Other than them being womanizers)

    My main beef with Hillary is that she just seemed too eager to occupy the White House, yet, I'm still not really sure what she really stands for...

    If this 37 year old can really prove himself worthy over the years, I have no problems throwing my support behind a Kennedy.

    Otherwise, I hope the independents seek the opportunity to form a formidable 3rd party now..., as the 2 major parties fumble.
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    ...and you quote Billi why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by novicius View Post
    Split both parties.
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    Mister, we could use a man like Roosevelt again...


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    Quote Originally Posted by MR2 Fan View Post
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    Assuming Sanders the old geezer doesn't die during the next prez election cycle, I'm willing to bet that he will become the 1st ever 3rd party prez, beating Teddy Roosevelt's record!

    Of course that's also assuming the old geezer's brave enough to go for it alone... rather than relying on DNC to hand him the nomination. I don't think DNC has learned any lessons... so I hope Sanders have wised up...

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    Both Republican and Democratic presidents always give lip service to infrastructure investment, yet Congress never spends the money. Really frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    Both Republican and Democratic presidents always give lip service to infrastructure investment, yet Congress never spends the money. Really frustrating.
    I guess the infrastructure lobby isn't rich enough
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    Hell, as it is I understand the infrastructure plan coming down the pike claims it's $1.5 trillion, but it's actually $200 billion from the feds, which is significantly down from normal, it just encourages states and cities, often via public-private partnerships/investments, to put more of their own money into it.

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    Looking up from a banana republic ruled by colonial-minded minions, it baffles me why the U.S. can't have nice things.

    We Mexicans can't have them cause institutional design and procedure fosters corruption and massive cost overruns. But you guys? It looks like political vendettas have got the best of your roads.
    acket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    ...Congress never spends the money. Really frustrating.
    Discussion follows. Not argument. I just thought I'd get on my soapbox for a minute here.

    I'm with you guys on the social problems and inequality in this country (and I wasn't always), but I cannot support new spending, or even current spending. No way.

    Congress should...no, must balance the budget before spending more money.

    I realize I'm in the minority on this, at this forum and certainly in the "gimme-gimme" real world where everyone, rich and poor alike, wants "free" money from the government, but I say we need to cut spending and raise taxes until all debts are paid, and then maintain a balanced budget. A Constitutional amendment requiring one would be good, and yes, I realize how difficult those are to get passed.

    Then, let's build us some badass roads and bridges. Hell, we could even see if we can make it so families who work and pay huge medical insurance premiums can afford to go to the doctor once in a while. That would be nice. Maybe municipal ISPs as are currently the rage where I live. I've come to realize the government can and does provide good services. But let's get our financial house in order before it's too late.

    For now, and for some number of years ahead, austerity is the obvious solution.

    NOBODY in politics that I know of is saying this. They all want to feed their own special interest groups while raising the debt ceiling. That's bullshit. The debt ceiling should be zero.

    But what else should we expect in a country where the average family has [insert some huge number] of unsecured debt? That's just normal, right?

    Yeah. Until the repo man shows up wid his boys. We, as a country, have been hiding from him for too many decades and people think it can continue indefinitely. It can't.

    Tighten your belt, Congress. Run this country like your constituents run their households...at least the ones who have the brains to keep a balanced budget. Do without once in a while. It's not that bad.



    Posted while I was typing:

    Quote Originally Posted by FaultyMario
    it baffles me why the U.S. can't have nice things.
    Yes! Me too. I think that's my point here. We're like that well-employed family down the street that makes fat salaries but is always in financial trouble because they have high-dollar cars, boats, country club memberships, private schools, lavish vacations, and all of it "paid" for with credit cards and loans.
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