....that's the problem, they go on the attack when they feel like they're cornered. That's why we're seeing this.Originally Posted by FaultyMario
After 2018, the GOP may not have majorities for a LONG time as long as people are mad enough about the current situation.
1000 pages, congrats guys!
Surely we've solved world peace, then?
This is all, in a strange and somewhat terrible way, maybe a good thing. I think our society and our way of doing business may need to be driven into the ground so that we can begin to pick up the pieces and build something new. It's been too easy to just float along and not change anything up to now. Maybe this presidency will begin to change things. Or, maybe he gets out of office and we just go back to ignoring it, I dunno.
I think you guys underestimate the arc of capitalism. A large portion of society may be looking past capitalism now, but the machine is in full swing with no short-term signs of slowing down. There are still plenty of resources to plunder and plenty of people to buy finished products. I think 10 or 20 years ago people started disengaging from traditional capitalistic values, but at the same time the systems started moving out of view. The result could be people who think they're living post-capitalism but are just stuck in a system they can't see and don't understand. Capitalism is moving past its relationship with society and cementing its relationship with government. People like Trump are just starting to appear. It's probably going to get worse before it gets better.
But I do think it will get better. We have a lot of big problems to solve, but I think we're starting to grasp what those problems are and we may have the bulk of the tools we need to address them. What gets me down on the daily is actually exactly that. We have tools to solve a lot of problems we've exhaustively identified, but we don't act. I don't think we can solve all the problems Right Now, it's ambitious and ridiculous, but we can certainly stop throwing trash on the ground and stop leaving the lights on. Cancer is a pain and world hunger a challenge - how about we just do the things we can do?
Bah.
In any case, eventually society will evolve to escape the corpocracy we're forming or society will revolt. We still outnumber them and they can only push so far. I do believe that, 100%. Resource distribution is in increasingly good shape, and we're better and better at making more from less. So many of the conflicts that have traditionally plagued mankind are just irrelevant now. That's a good deal - freeing the collective we up from fighting for survival to fighting for comfort, rights, and knowledge is a transition we could reasonably start seeing in our lifetimes. I'm pretty down on humanity in general, but this gives me hope.
Capitalism will continue to thrive for quite some time... but not in the black and white manner we identify it as. There will have to be some sort of continued advancement of socialism with Capitalism, to ensure a fairer distribution of the wealth.
You guys need to change your page layout. I'm only on page 250
Page 167 here. Almost post #10,000 though.
Republican push to repeal Obamacare collapses
I think it's become obvious, by the advancement of technology basically, that Political Representatives are representatives of financial interests and that has put the finger on the system of political representation as a whole. The Greek Debt Crisis, the Spanish Housing Crisis, they stemmed from those conflicts of interests and became a struggle in the political arena. The Trumps were always there, the newer actors IMHO are the OccupyBernieBros (hashtag) that are looking for options to move the system forward in ways that can be confused for anti-systemic options, but they're not, single payer healthcare is pure capitalism. The antisystemic experiments are not widespread but they provide for inspiration for some of the stuff the more progressive actors in the system want to try out (I'm talking here of stuff like "Change the World Without Taking Power").
The Offshore shell companies tax evasion schemes (panama papers et al) are based on evidence retrieved with contemporary technological resources made available to not just the powerful elites, but to the adequate citizenry, which in turn is demanding reforms on our political procedures and processes; Trump is a glitch in the system that could cause an irrecoverable failure.
Last edited by FaultyMario; September 26th, 2017 at 11:22 AM.
acket.
Excellent post.
Like my Market Disruptions thread (SHAMELESS PLUG), I think we are seeing massive shifts that will change things long-term....the question is what are we able to predict and plan for?
I've thought for a long time that often we do not try to incorporate technological changes on a macro scale...like a city wide scale. Being a person who grew up around Disney (wait...hear me out)......I learned bits and pieces about the EPCOT City plan (entirely different than the theme park) and the idea of putting all of our advancements and ideas into a full size city.
If we can see that happening and also do a lot more local farming and manufacturing and not require deliveries overseas constantly, we can really improve things. At the same time, it could also make us more isolated in certain ways, but it's always a give and take.
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