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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    I really wish the left would do better in accepting nuance. Purity Politics works against us in so many ways. I see so many “progressives” (whether they are real or not, who knows) complaining that Biden/Kamala are Republicans in sheep’s clothing, and that’s so completely disingenuous. So many people don’t see that there’s a full ass spectrum of political beliefs and policies. It’s not all 0 or 100, there’s a lot of 50s, 75s, 25s etc. So yeah, you may believe in 100, and the two choices are a 25 and a 75, but that 25 and 75 are not at all the same.
    Right?!?!?

    I saw this on Twitter somewhere.
    "Fake progressives lack the intelligence and integrity to understand or accept their guilt for the damage caused by their actions that helped elect Donald Trump.
    Instead they tout their laziness and incompetence as an entitlement to immunity from that responsibility."

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    Who are fake progressives? Republicans in disguise? Secretly in love with Trump? Or just russian assets?

    You guys are not understanding me. I'm not rejecting the turkey and preparing to eat shit. However, I am complaining about the fact that we could be eating something better. Democrats could do better, a LOT better.

    I'm also not insisting on purity politics, but just not very happy about democratic party's insistence on muddling the political waters.

    Fuck the alternative. Don't just aim to be bit better than shit! That's not what Bill Clinton nor Obama did to get elected.

    Anyway, I think Hillary also hated Sanders as much as Neanderthal... at least Sanders thought Biden is a friend... hopefully they will work together more.

    Like I said earlier, I'm also surprised democratic convention decided to not let Andrew Yang speak... # of non-white women speakers were also few on the list... as if 1 Kamala is diverse enough to cover all women, non-white... she even got asians covered!

    I seriously do feel that democratic establishment is basically republican party in sheep's clothing... just as previous convention sponsor Wells Fargo Bank... huge supporters of gay rights on the outside, but on the inside, they scammed their own customers and mistreated their own lower level employees in pursue of profits. Wells Fargo is certainly a better financial institution than Lehman Brothers, but I hope you guys can understand why I can still be mad at Wells Fargo.
    Last edited by Crazed_Insanity; August 12th, 2020 at 09:11 AM.

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    It's admittedly not only the left that has this problem, there is the term "RINO" after all.

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    There's a huge political spectrum. RINOs and DINOs all need to be represented as well, not just DONORs.

    If you want people like me to not complain, then do the right thing and get it done! Stop blaming it on Bernie Sander's laziness and incompetence and Republicans' obstructions. I'm not trying to destroy the democratic party, just want it to be better. How can we make something better without ever looking at it with a critical eye?

    There's no question Biden/Harris will be infinitely better than shit. However, do you really believe the duo will be tough on stuff like police corruption? I do hope for the best, but I also expect the status quo. When another BLM movement breaks out, we'll just conveniently blame the republicans again.

    When foreign brown people get mistreated by our government again... we'll just toss our hands up in the air... oh well, our constitution doesn't protect them illegal terrorists anyway... see no evil hear no evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    It's admittedly not only the left that has this problem, there is the term "RINO" after all.
    This is true, but I don't give a fuck about republicans. They are the ones who stood by and enabled this shit to go down.

    And, I bet the hard right are the ones who espouse the RINO nonsense, just like the hard left are the ones who call liberals "Republican light." Makes the case even clearer for ignoring the hard right/ left fringe.

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    Oh yeah, I was specifically pointing out that what Jason posted isn't really limited to one side of the political spectrum, it's a pretty global thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    the left that has this problem
    Wouldn't that be because the only parties with a realistic chance in 99% of federal elections in the United States are a Neoliberal Party (not left) and a Neonationalist Party (not left)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Oh yeah, I was specifically pointing out that what Jason posted isn't really limited to one side of the political spectrum, it's a pretty global thing.
    Agree.

    I find it laughable how the rabid left calls Biden/ Harris "republican lie" and the hard right calls them "socialists trying to remake America." Goes to show the labels don't really mean anything.

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    Oh yeah, as far as I can tell Harris is an antifa-communist republican-cop who wants to hand over cities to antifa terrorists and then arrest them without due process but then immediately release them from prison before supporting the police state.

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    If only there were other sports on TV people would be bitching about hypothetical goals and saves.
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