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    Quote Originally Posted by Rare White Ape View Post
    Is the presidential race nothing but a thinly veiled pantomime now?

    This whole week seems like Trump's reelection campaign hired a really shit script writer and created a made-for-TV drama
    That's been the whole last 5 years mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew View Post
    That's been the whole last 5 years mate.
    Exactly. Trump never stopped campaigning.
    Something needs to change. They spend more time and money on that than actually governing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21Kid View Post
    Exactly. Trump never stopped campaigning. And golfing.
    Something needs to change. They spend more time and money on that than actually governing.
    Important to also note the ... essentially a shut down of the government, due to the intransigence of Mitch in the Senate. A ... shutdown mind you, when the Republicans control the Senate AND the White House. Only one party has consistently done everything it can to destabilise and stop the government from functioning, in the 26 years i've lived here. One. The Republicans.

    Then you get people "both sides are the same" because their chosen one didn't get enough support in the polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neanderthal View Post
    Important to also note the ... essentially a shut down of the government, due to the intransigence of Mitch in the Senate. A ... shutdown mind you, when the Republicans control the Senate AND the White House. Only one party has consistently done everything it can to destabilise and stop the government from functioning, in the 26 years i've lived here. One. The Republicans.

    Then you get people "both sides are the same" because their chosen one didn't get enough support in the polls.
    I could go on with: one party has consistently tried to

    * cut taxes for the wealthy
    * cut taxes for corporations
    (both of which defund schools, social programs, upkeep of the commons, etc)
    * take away healthcare
    * restrict people from voting
    * cut food aid/ food stamps for the poor
    * cut housing assistance (section 8 etc) for the poor
    * pollute our national parks by allowing gas and mineral extraction
    * done nothing about school shootings (I don't count "thoughts and prayers.")
    * etc

    But, yeah "both parties are the same ..."

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    Both parties are indeed the same from the perspectives of all the brown people outside of the US. (Chinese are not brown enough I guess, for the Chinese, definitely 2 parties are different.)

    Inside the US, democrats often pretend to care for the poor... or perhaps 'try' to care for the poor and marginalized, but it's not often that they succeed. From BLM to affordable healthcare, they can easily just blame it on the other side.

    I had a recent conversation with roofer on FB also with another coworker in Alabama... my conclusion is this: unless somebody is seriously a white supremacist, I think even most conservatives realize that 99.9% of the politicians are full of crap. They know perfectly well how fucked up Trump is..., but they're just afraid of 'socialism'. Likewise liberasl voters are afraid of their crazy conservative politicians..., but anyway, end result is that we keep on electing these BS politicians who actually work for the rich into public offices.

    Yeah, republicans suppress votes more overtly... democrats try to pretend how open they are by allowing parolees or teenagers to vote, but in the end don't both of them meddle with the results? Bernie Sanders had been fucked over twice by the democrats... Anyway, I'm not sure if roofer or my Alabama colleague would prefer Sanders over Hillary, probably not..., but I do believe liberals would've been more energized and possibly pull off another win like Obama did.

    As for Biden, again, I don't think roofer and my colleague would finallize wise up and give up on trump... I'm also not sure if Biden will be able to energize any undecided voters. But at least this time I'll be voting Biden to protest against Trump.

    Let's see if my vote will finally make a difference this time... Hope so.
    Last edited by Crazed_Insanity; October 8th, 2020 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew View Post
    That's been the whole last 5 years mate.
    I think it has now turned utterly comical, hence the lol smiley.

    Which reminds me: Iíve been meaning to say something but donít quite know how to put it.

    Basically, I think Trump is going to win this one. He is an absolute shoe-in. As unfortunate as that is for everyone, itís likely to be a reality that we must deal with.

    The reason I say it, is because I donít want anyone to fall into a spiral of despair. Prepare yourselves mentally for how you will react if Trump wins, because your own mental health is the most important thing for you this election.

    Plus it doesnít mean you should stop fighting if he wins. I think the next steps after the election are to find ways that you can be the most effective counter-punch to Trump if he gets to keep his job. You are all soldiers in the good fight, so donít let it get you down.

    I learned all of this in May last year during the federal election when ďmyĒ party of choice didnít get to form government. I quickly learned to let go and not take too much ownership over any particular candidates - itís not a video game console war!

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    Yes, expect and be prepared for the worst, but don't ever give up hoping for the best...

    Trump isn't all bad. At least so far he has started no wars covert or otherwise... something pretty much every modern presidents have done. Trump gave us and the world lots of scares..., but at least we're not stuck in any stupid losing wars that caused regional instability...

    I also like how Trump messes around with China. In a world where even Maverick of Top Gun bows down to the CCP by removing taiwanese flag off of his flight jacket, I like that about Trump. Now if only trump would fight the chinese virus the same way he fought the chinese, US would've been a much safer place...

    Lastly, I really don't understand why Kamala Harris said she'd prefer Chinese president Xi over president Trump. How about Putin? Would she prefer Putin over Trump too? Why even make such comparison?

    If Biden wins, surely CCP will be able walk all over the US.

    On one hand, we worry about Russian influence, on the other, we worry about Chinese influence... Maybe with Bernie Sanders, we can all finally be friends?

    In times like these, I'm really glad I believe in Jesus.
    Last edited by Crazed_Insanity; October 8th, 2020 at 03:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew View Post
    That's been the whole last 5 years mate.
    I'm going to be eating a whole lot less popcorn if Trump loses. It's nice being an outsider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21Kid View Post
    Exactly. Trump never stopped campaigning.
    Something needs to change. They spend more time and money on that than actually governing.
    The funny part is, I bet if he wins he still wouldn't stop campaigning. Those rallies are like crack to him.

    Turned in our ballots today at one of the local drop boxes. I still think that once you've voted, you should be able to opt out of political advertising.
    Last edited by Tom Servo; October 8th, 2020 at 06:05 PM.

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    I keep getting texts from the Reps about voting for the cheeto. Block every damn one.

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