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    Trump "legally" not paying taxes does mean that he's smart... Or you must be stupid to pay extra taxes when you are not legally obligated to do so.

    This scandal only highlights how the politicians bend over backward for the rich when passing laws and how lousy a businessman Trump really was and most likely is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    Yeah sure, don't elect big dreamers and don't dare challenge the status quo congress.
    Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm certainly not suggesting that actually having some sort of implementable plan for one's policies might be a wise thing if one is going to run for public office and not look like a fool.
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    Also, nuclear accounts for 8% of 2014 total energy usage, renewable accounts for 10%, yet, she gets dinged for wanting more renewable sources?
    She's not getting dinged for wanting more renewable energy, she's getting dinged for wanting to phase out all nuclear power on a timeline which would make it impossible to bring enough of those renewable sources online to pick up the slack, which would subsequently result in either massive energy shortages or increased consumption of fossil fuels. Seriously, this is almost exactly what it says in the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    Trump "legally" not paying taxes does mean that he's smart...
    Rich enough to hire skilled accountants and lobbyists ≠ "Smart"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshInKC View Post
    Rich enough to hire skilled accountants and lobbyists ≠ "Smart"
    Don't disagree, but if he didn't do it, I would think of him as stupid.

    If one really have a heart to give, might as well give to charity of your choice than to the government.

    Anyway, point is, People should attack Trump where it really hurts.... That he's a lousy businessman. No way he can turn losing that much money as being 'smart'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshInKC View Post
    Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm certainly not suggesting that actually having some sort of implementable plan for one's policies might be a wise thing if one is going to run for public office and not look like a fool.
    Obamas plans weren't all that implementable too. Do you really believe Hillary will be able to implement anything other than policies that benefit the rich with a republican congress?

    She's not getting dinged for wanting more renewable energy, she's getting dinged for wanting to phase out all nuclear power on a timeline which would make it impossible to bring enough of those renewable sources online to pick up the slack, which would subsequently result in either massive energy shortages or increased consumption of fossil fuels. Seriously, this is almost exactly what it says in the link.
    We're talking about 8% here... Phasing out this 8% sounds just so horrible!

    Anyway, even with these dings, she's still 2nd place out of the 4 candidates... Still not too bad.

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    Trump won't fix squat. Companies are under increasing pressure from Wall Street and Shareholders to increase profits so bonuses and dividends keep rising. Offer them reduced corporation tax and they'll take it with open arms. While still outsourcing jobs abroad because it's cheaper. If anything I expect him to make it EASIER for companies to dodge taxes and move earnings offshore. He is, after all, a businessman at heart. Although, apparently, not a very good one. He'll hire cronies and yes men for every important cabinet job and the whole economy will tank, the deficit will rise massively and your whole economy will be in serious trouble.

    It's also traditional for any companies or directorships etc to be annulled or placed in a blind trust. I.E. not run by anyone with a vested interest in contracts and the companies. Trumps family seem to think that them running these companies is OK, because it's not the President. This is quite clearly a FUCKING HUGE conflict of interest.

    While I don't agree with several things about Hilary, she is, by FAR, like, a HUGE margin, massively better organised and less likely to fly off the handle. The debate should have seen to that as anyone who sat on the fence previously should have had their eyes well and truly opened by his 'performance'. And that's what it felt like, a bad actor. Can you honestly imagine Trump trying to hold negotiations over something even relatively minor with Putin or Xi Jinping without flipping out of lambasting them in some way? God help you all if he gets into office and he has to negotiate something important!

    Trump really should have shot himself in the foot in the debate and while he didn't actually get that far he had a couple of near misses. I'm sure he will, at some point, say something truly vulgar or shocking. He can't help himself. What I do worry about is people not voting, because the less people that vote the more likely he's going to mount a challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    Obamas plans weren't all that implementable too. Do you really believe Hillary will be able to implement anything other than policies that benefit the rich with a republican congress?
    Well, some of Obama's could have been made to work, had he not been the focus of some of the most impressively partisan obstructionism in the US's history. Also, he did get a neutered version of Obamacare passed, so that's something. And, I think the hope for Clinton would be that the balance of power in the house and the senate would shift Democratic, allowing at least some movement.
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    We're talking about 8% here... Phasing out this 8% sounds just so horrible!
    8% is not a small amount, especially when nuclear plants perform an important function in the grid beyond simple generation - Since they are super reliable, they take up a lot of slack when other plants either fail or are underproducing, which can be an issue with a lot of renewable sources.
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    Anyway, even with these dings, she's still 2nd place out of the 4 candidates... Still not too bad.
    Yep, she didn't do too badly, substantially better than Johnson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed_Insanity View Post
    Anyway, point is, People should attack Trump where it really hurts.... That he's a lousy businessman. No way he can turn losing that much money as being 'smart'.
    You are 100% right. Seriously, that asshole lost nearly a billion dollars on casinos. Where the entire business model is "People come in and give you money for nothing in return."
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    accurate


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    That may be the hardest I've laughed at an SNL thing in a while.

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