Miscellaneous Stuff

[speedpimp]

And that is why there are an ass load of aftermarket tunes and other goodies(EGR delete) to free up power.

[KillerB]

Exactly - the factory is now opening up peak power and torque as the engine management allows it under warranty.

[speedpimp]

It was about sixteen years ago that the 600 ft/lb barrier was broken with the Cummons HO. I give them two years until they crack 1000.

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caezhWQc8Dw

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct4y9xAUAAAePCl.jpg:large

Not a Toyota in sight. #ISIS (https://twitter.com/TamerlaneBlog/status/783119425490735104)

[Kchrpm]

Today I rode in a dump truck and drove a tractor.

[thesameguy]

What.

[Kchrpm]

What?

[21Kid]

I used to go to an annual (steam) Tractor festival when I was a kid. It was fun.




Seems like it's still going on (http://thresheree.customcreative.com/reunion/main-attractions/)...

[thesameguy]

What!

[Kchrpm]

Yeah!

[thesameguy]

http://www.welchs.com/images/default-source/Product/spreads/individual-product-pages/spreads_concordgrapejelly_210x356.png

[JoshInKC]

Holy ish. I literally just sat down at my computer eating a PB&J sandwich made with that grape jelly right now.

[thesameguy]

:lol:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuZScsNXgAAbcp3.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuZSciKWcAA4ipX.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuZSciFXYAIIzev.jpg:large

Nissan 350Z + Maserati GranTurismo + Porsche 911... tot en un #WTF #trunying http://collaverglas.tumblr.com/post/150407714789 …

[21Kid]

:o That's hawt!!!

[Godson]

This car is like a hot transgender...I'm aroused, yet confused and a little scared.

[thesameguy]

Samesies. Not sure of my approach here...

[dodint]

Spelling Porsche wrong. Is that some kind of statement to add to the confusion?

[Kchrpm]

These DRLs on GMCs are very weird to see coming at you out of a large fog cloud.

http://www.gmc.com/content/dam/GMC/global/master/nscwebsite/en/home/GMC_Life/Trucks/Sierra_Elevation/2016-gmclife-sierra-elevation-s1-980x347-01.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvsAIxMXgAAzHZk.jpg:large

Mercedes-Benz creates the premium pickup segment with its new X-class http://www.evo.co.uk/mercedes/18455/mercedes-benz-x-class-brings-premium-quality-to-the-pickup-class …

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvrT4vfWYAAoAqg.jpg:large

[Godson]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about a Mercedes truck?

[speedpimp]

Not really.

[dodint]

To me "Premium Pickup" is the King Ranch and their ilk.

My Dad sold his to a friend who owns a farm. He ripped out the interior to make more room for chainsaws. :lol:

[speedpimp]

Wonder how long it will be before one gets fitted with a Redneck and Confederate flag window decals.

[Godson]

To me "Premium Pickup" is the King Ranch and their ilk.

My Dad sold his to a friend who owns a farm. He ripped out the interior to make more room for chainsaws. :lol:

Right??!!

I'm driving a platinum right now, and it brings everything i would ever need in a truck, and nothing I wouldn't. Ask I see with this is an excuse to pay more, for something that costs more when it breaks, from a company that doesn't know shit about this market.

Nobody wants a super luxury truck. Look at the failure the Lincoln MKT was.

[thesameguy]

Look, Lincoln invented the premium pickup truck segment, and that didn't go very well. Except here in Sacramento where I see a Blackwood every month and a Mark LT every week.

So, screw you Benz, you're #2 again.

[Kchrpm]

Correction, #3

https://cmgstatesmanaustin.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/1024x1024.jpg

[Yw-slayer]

Mercedes-Benz sells a modified Nissan Navara to wannabes with more money than sense

That's right.

[thesameguy]

Correction, #3

IN YOUR FACE, BENZ!

[21Kid]

New Whizbangery!!!


The Pacifica hybrid—the first gas-electric minivan in our market, by the way—uses a 3.6-liter V-6, a 16-kWh battery pack, and a twin-electric-motor setup to produce 260 total system horsepower, as well as to deliver 80 MPGe in the city (no highway number was released). The battery pack is located under the second-row floor (which means no Stow ’n Go seating there), and Chrysler says a 240-volt electrical hookup can replenish it completely in as little as two hours. Electric-only range is stated to be 30 miles. The hybrid system also uses a Chrysler-designed dual-motor transmission that, in the latest plug-in-hybrid whizbangery, incorporates two electric motors that can both be called upon to drive the front wheels via clutches, rather than devoting one solely to recapturing energy, as in older systems. About time! The wife might be interested in something like this. She enjoyed the convenience of the T&C we had for a bit. Doesn't make as much sense now that the kids are grown though.

[thesameguy]

WAIT.

Their dual motor system incorporates two electric motors???

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/288/653/844.jpg

[Godson]

:lol:

Smartass

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwHrngmWIAERAzM.jpg:large

Never think you've seen it all when it comes to Nurburgring TF! (https://twitter.com/Frozenspeed/status/793174097417076737)

[speedpimp]

Nice.

[novicius]

Santa Maria, why are Audis so damned slow?? :smh:

Kicking around the idea of a used B7 A4 2.0 TFSI for the wife's next car, I'm curious about their mods, see people on Audi forums poppin' champagne when their modded cars run 13.9's in the quarter. :lol:

"World's Fastest B7 A4 2.0T" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVOHMNRSnA) -- new turbo, 100 octane, 13.38 @ 100.3 mph. What is that, 375 HP? People have been building 500-600 horse Honda 2.0L turbo motors for decades upon decades now. I wonder what the weak point is?

[Yw-slayer]

It's a German car. What do you expect? :D

[novicius]

So I should just hit the easy button and get her a WRX instead? People are gonna think she doesn't shave her legs! :D

[Yw-slayer]

And you converted one of them. DAT'S RITE

[novicius]

Nice. ;)

Ah well, it's all in my head -- she'll probably want a Prius and nothing else. :lol:

[thesameguy]

Santa Maria, why are Audis so damned slow?? :smh:

Kicking around the idea of a used B7 A4 2.0 TFSI for the wife's next car, I'm curious about their mods, see people on Audi forums poppin' champagne when their modded cars run 13.9's in the quarter. :lol:

"World's Fastest B7 A4 2.0T" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVOHMNRSnA) -- new turbo, 100 octane, 13.38 @ 100.3 mph. What is that, 375 HP? People have been building 500-600 horse Honda 2.0L turbo motors for decades upon decades now. I wonder what the weak point is?

I think you misread - that's a stock 1.8t on 100 octane. It is/was the world's fastest stock Audi. There are "plenty" of 9 and 10 second 1.8ts. Here's one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TypmnMBIkPQ

Also remember that the 1.8t was Audi's smallest motor. With five cylinder and 2.7t and 4.2 swaps there's little ultimately reason to play with the 1.8t. You didn't see a lot of 600hp D15s back in the day, everyone did B-series swaps to get those numbers.

I think you'll find with the 1.8t cars that their strength is not off the line. Too little displacement moving too much weight to do anything great there. Their strength is in the midrange, and a chip tuned 1.8t is pretty lively on the freeway. Every time I drove ours I was initially disappointed, but merging onto the freeway was always reminded "there it is!"

Edit: Also, you know how most people drive. Most people drive in such a way that a 160hp Fiero is fierce stoplight warrior.

[novicius]

Eh? That YT link specifies that it's a "B7 A4 2.0L" with an aftermarket K03 turbo and supporting mods:


Full mod list:
JHM 100+ Octane tuning
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/jhm-tuning-for-b7-a4-20t-p-1779.html)

JHM 3" Catless Test Pipe
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/exhaust-test-pipe-jhm-catless-test-pipe-for-b7-a4-20t-p-1852.html)

JHM 3" Downpipe/Y-pipe adapter to B6 S4 Cat back
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/exhaust-downpipe-jhm-to-25-for-b6-b7-s4-cat-back-on-b7-a4-20t-manual-cvt-p-1946.html)

JHM 4:1 Diff
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/jhm-41-center-diff-upgrade-manual-trans-only-p-46.html)

JHM/FI B6 S4 Cat back
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/jhm-41-center-diff-upgrade-manual-trans-only-p-46.html)

JHM Lightweight Flywheel and Clutch Combo w B7 RS4 Pressure Plate for B7-A4 2.0T
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/jhm-lightweight-flywheel-and-clutch-combo-b7-rs4-pressure-plate-for-b7-a4-20t-p-1257.html)

JHM 2.0T FMIC
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=2.0t+b7+FMIC&x=0&y=0)

JHM Shifter, Linkage and Bushing
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo... (https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/jhm-trio-package-shifter-linkage-bushing-for-2004-and-up-b6-b7-a4-speed-p-540.html)

Sparco Assetto Gara 18" Wheels and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus 225/45 R18 tires
Stock HPFP
Stock Injectors, Stock airbox with K&N Air filter
Stock Rotors and a COMPLETELY stock motor.
$8K USD to turn 13.3's? Why bother! :lol:

...but yes you're absolutely right -- I wouldn't be modding/tinkering with this one, it would be strictly my wife's car. I'm just shocked that modded A4 2.0T Quattro cars are so slow, I thought that once dedicated owners got them, they'd make them fly. I mean c'mon, we're talking about 10-year-old cars here! :D

[thesameguy]

But a totally stock engine - just a tune, exhaust, and FMIC. None of that is real go-fast parts. To build a 600hp car [that lasts] from a 200hp car you're going to need serious internal work. They just did the most they could without opening up the engine. I mean, good on them, but yeah, what's the point? Well, the point is new Audi buyers, obviously. :D There are plenty of dedicated Audi owners doing that real work - heads, pistons, manifolds, etc. That's just not this video.

If you want to go fast, get a B5 S4 and have fun working on the engine. ;) If you want a comfortable, safe, presentable driver that won't embarrass you a chipped 1.8t is plenty. You know me, I've got a lead foot and nothing stock and I was never dissatisfied with that formula on our A4. It's fine. If it could have been a manual transmission and some actual suspension & tires it would have been great, but the round to flat wheel and oil pan to no oil pan interval with the girl at the wheel would have been unacceptable. :D

For this second round, I really wanted to get a WRX wagon but she just won't drive a manual and the autobox on the 2.0l is unacceptable to me. That was the attraction of the Forester XT or Outback XT with the 2.5l. Extra ground clearance, plenty quick, and all the STi catalog at your disposal. You do have the potentially pesky oil pump and head gasket issues, but really you can always just drop two grand and pull the engine on Day 1, and have a great trouble-free driver for 6-8 years. That's what I would have done if I'd found one. Hell, I still might... although honestly turbodiesel Jeep is pretty rad. ;)

[21Kid]

The WRX now comes with a CVT now. It's more economical. :D

[thesameguy]

Yeah, but we all know we're not talking about 2 or even 5 year old cars here. ;)

I mean, I'm not talking about them, anyway.

[novicius]

But a totally stock engine - just a tune, exhaust, and FMIC. None of that is real go-fast parts. To build a 600hp car [that lasts] from a 200hp car you're going to need serious internal work. They just did the most they could without opening up the engine. I mean, good on them, but yeah, what's the point? Well, the point is new Audi buyers, obviously. :D There are plenty of dedicated Audi owners doing that real work - heads, pistons, manifolds, etc. That's just not this video.
Oh sorry -- I was looking for built B7 A4 2.0L's but I didn't find them. This link was all that the Googlator found for me.

Again, I am fine with a 14-, 15- or even 16-second "fun car", no problem to me. I just was shocked that I couldn't find a batch of 11-second B7 A4 2.0L's walkin' the world, that's all. :)

[thesameguy]

I really think it's because there are easier places to start. If Honda had a 2.7l twin turbo on the market in 1995, there wouldn't have been 600hp B18s. Kinda like how you see plenty of built LS3s, not so many built LS 5.3s. People might throw a cam and an intake on one, but they're not going through the bottom end and putting 15psi on them. There just isn't a point at starting on the bottom rung of the ladder. That said, you might look at VW, where the 1.8t *was* the top of the heap.

http://forums.fourtitude.com/showthread.php?7043872-FS-1-8T-800-hp-Fully-Built-Engine-*New*

:shrug:

[novicius]

Yeah but I like the 2006+ snout better. ;)

Also the LS1/2/3 actually IS falling out of favor -- a turbo on the Vortex 4800 is now the cheapest way to big power. A combination of insane factory durability and the rising costs of the LS. #sloppymechanics

Humorously enough, the same thing is happening to the '96-'04 2v 4.6L V8 mod motor. They're incredibly cheap since most hot rodders think they're garbage but add TFS aluminum intake & heads + a single 76mm turbo and you're making as much horsepower as a modded Terminator without paying that sick Terminator price tag.

So I was just hoping to see some sick modded 2.0 TFSI inline-fours as people try to work around the S4. ;)

[thesameguy]

Can't fault you on the B7 looks, I prefer them as well... although the B5 S4 will always hold a place in my heart. Same of the C5 A6 - a 2.7t with a six-speed is still on my to-do list all these years later. A forum member whose name I don't recall had (and tracked) one, and I was always jealous. Although the looks are a bit dated, the C5 2.7t combined so much goodness into one package it still stands out in my mind. A couple years ago a friend traded in his cursed A8 for a very rare S-line 2.7t and I'd always intended to buy from him when he was done. When he finally decided to get rid of it, it was so wrecked inside I nearly cried. Some day...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8196/8107176275_0c564d4257_b.jpg

[TheBenior]

Eh? That YT link specifies that it's a "B7 A4 2.0L" with an aftermarket K03 turbo and supporting mods:


$8K USD to turn 13.3's? Why bother! :lol:

...but yes you're absolutely right -- I wouldn't be modding/tinkering with this one, it would be strictly my wife's car. I'm just shocked that modded A4 2.0T Quattro cars are so slow, I thought that once dedicated owners got them, they'd make them fly. I mean c'mon, we're talking about 10-year-old cars here! :D

Well, if you're sticking with a K03 and internals, there's only so far you can take a 2.0T. Built or not, there's a limit on how much a K03 can flow. IIRC, my mechanic, an Audi/VW specialist said that with 1.8Ts, having a good tune once you go past 300 wheel horsepower becomes very important to avoid breaking the stock rods. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2.0Ts are similar.

Most of that applies to Mazdaspeed3s as well, though they start with the advantage of an extra 0.3L of displacement and a twin scroll K04, which (along with less weight) is why they'll definitely get into the 12s with similar mods, and high 11s on a good day with slicks. Not wanting to do internals is why I'm leaning towards a built K04 instead of something bigger. Even a stock-sized turbo can push the stock rods to their breaking point.

With modern engine management and design, turbo engines don't need to be as overbuilt as they were in the 1990s, which is good for OEMs worried about drivetrain cost/mass/fuel economy/etc. Still, I think a lot of the overbuilt reputation of 1990s Japanese turbo engines was overstated. They make aftermarket internals for all these engines for a reason.

[novicius]

Yeah but the turbo size isn't really the defining feature here, it's the lack of built/sleeved/bored 2.0 TFSI's in A4's. The factory rods in the stock mill can only handle 350 crank HP max -- and some Audi forum folks were saying they knew of failures under less power than that.

Ultimately I did find some built examples of this mill, btw: in VW GTI's. ;) There are a few 550-650 crank HP 2.0L TFSI's out there, which is cool (and strangely reassuring!). :cool: :up:

[thesameguy]

This is like... whoa.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/sema/cummins-reveals-repower-diesel-crate-engine-program-at-sema-2016-%E2%80%93-supernumbertensema16/ar-AAjHhLm?ocid=spartandhp

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwuuAtDXEAA0-7T.jpg:large

@JeremyClarkson (https://twitter.com/JeremyClarkson/status/795921105647087616) So last night I presented a big award to the all round good geezer, Roger Daltrey, who is 72. inches tall.

[KillerB]

We've changed forum locations too many times for me to dig it up, but I remember making a comment several years ago to the effect that I thought that, as stability control got more sophisticated, some high performance cars might start being designed to be inherently unstable. They'd effectively only be drivable with their stability systems activated - without them, they'd be extremely difficult to control.

Seems like that prediction, at least, has come to pass. (http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a30859/the-fastest-new-supercars-are-like-fighter-jets-unstable/)

[novicius]

Can't beat the Machine.

[thesameguy]

Are ya sure?

http://thedrop.fm/files/2013/07/office-space-printer-scene-amazon.jpg

[thesameguy]

My boss has two cars - a '13 F150 and a '16 Land Rover. Today, she got notified there were new maps available for both cars, which to be suggests they are coming from the same place. It makes sense, there are only a couple companies that own all the maps. BUT, the Ford costs $149, the Land Rover $199. LAME.

[Godson]

Maps? For NAV?

[thesameguy]

Yeah.

[Yw-slayer]

To be fair, source data probably the same but the formatting is probably different? And/or Land Rover premium.

[Freude am Fahren]

Ford used to own land rover, right around when GPS was becoming a thing (2000-2008). Not surprising if they kept the same supplier. I'm sure there are only a few out there. I think TomTom is one company.

(ETA: NavTeq and Tele Atlas seem to be the only two. Tele Atlas is owned by TomTom)

[thesameguy]

I think there is one more - Nokia had a huge mapping service that jam pretty sure Microsoft now has.

[Yw-slayer]

HERE Maps. Yeah.

[Kchrpm]

McLaren announces 3-seat F1-successor to be made.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/11/16/mclaren-bp23-three-seat-successor-f1-hyper-gt/

It's called the BP23 (Bespoke Project 23), but that may change. They're only going to make 106 of them, the same as they made for the F1. It's going to be a "Hyper GT" meant for long distances, with a hybrid powertrain, bespoke switchgear and powered doors.

This related image reveals little

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/17a047b2c30baf114bc04b56b88d40af/204594017/2.jpg

[novicius]

So... a three-seat P1 LM? :lol: :up:

[Freude am Fahren]

It's going to be a "Hyper GT" meant for long distances, with a hybrid powertrain, bespoke switchgear and powered doors.Or a 3-seat Regera ;)

[21Kid]

Two in front and one in back?

:shocker:

[novicius]

Or a 3-seat Regera ;)
Well there are over a half-dozen hypercars that are competing in this space. (http://www.topgear.com/car-news/goodwood-fos-2016/bugatti-chiron-vs-worlds-greatest-hypercars#1) Basically comes down to driver's skill and/or testicular fortitude.



Be that as it may, the Chiron doesn’t just have its ancestor to contend with. Bugatti says the average buyer will already own “64 cars, three jets, three helicopters, and a yacht”, which puts the financial threshold for potential customers, um, rather high.
So really, these 80-100 buyers all own these cars and shoot the shit on private online forums on the Darknet amongst themselves. :lol:

[Kchrpm]

http://jalopnik.com/the-2017-chrysler-pacifica-hybrid-might-end-up-cheaper-1789043631

Hybrid Pacifica is the way to go.

[21Kid]

:up:

[21Kid]

Midnight viewing party? #TheGrandTour launches tonight after 00:01 GMT on Amazon Prime Video. (https://twitter.com/thegrandtour/status/799262037507379200)

That's 6:01 CST... Today!!!

[XHawkeye]

Midnight viewing party? #TheGrandTour launches tonight after 00:01 GMT on Amazon Prime Video. (https://twitter.com/thegrandtour/status/799262037507379200)

That's 6:01 CST... Today!!!

The opening was thee best.

[21Kid]

yeah. The forced bits were pretty lame. :/

[Freude am Fahren]

Meh, it's been that way for like a decade. I've gotten over it, and just enjoyed it for the entertainment that it is.

[Phil_SS]

Every time I try and watch it won't load. :(

[thesameguy]

Watched the firs episode last night and enjoyed it - I think it might be a bit better the TG. It was kind of cool seeing all the burning man art cars in the opening - been up close to all of them!

[Freude am Fahren]

Though this one had the Holy Trinity film we've been waiting for forever (after seeing a bunch of other people's by the way), I think going forward, most of the main films will be more along the lines of old/cheap cars and challenges across awesome locations. Which I'm happy for. There's so much out there available to get reviews on the latest and greatest, Top Gear doesn't need to bother with that anymore. 10-15 years ago when I was watching religiously through Final Gear, Top Gear was really the sole source for those kind of things, with Fifth Gear and Motor Trend miles behind, and YouTube non-existent.

[Kchrpm]

I think I preferred the Chris Harris/Tiff Needell/Marino Franchitti version of the trinity film better. Helps, of course, that it was first by a wide margin, but also because it has much more talented drivers.

[thesameguy]

I don't care what they review, but I preferred the more in-depth "this is a car and this what it was capable of" over the newer contrived "challenges" and "competitions." I just don't see the value of them. Tiff Needell hustling cars around and talking about them was always what I looked forward to.

[Kchrpm]

I have accepted the fact that their new format is more universally appreciated, and that they are going to stick with it, versus reviews or whatever you want to call them.

[Freude am Fahren]

Right, I prefer Tiff as well for a real review. Chris Harris or Matt Farrah are who I want to see drive a car and tell me about how good it is. I want them to tell me why a car is terrible or go deeper into the reason we like a certain car (see the 86 review). These guys are good at regular reviews*, but they're great at contrived entertainment that involves cars.

*Regular Car Reviews is obviously the best at regular car reviews.

[Freude am Fahren]

I think I preferred the Chris Harris/Tiff Needell/Marino Franchitti version of the trinity film better. Helps, of course, that it was first by a wide margin, but also because it has much more talented drivers.

I actually think Salomondrin was the first, surprisingly (and he included a Veyron and his Huayra. It came out of nowhere, and everyone was like, WTF? That video put that guy on the map. I enjoyed his channel for a little while. He changed over to an advertiser friendly daily vlogger though.

[Kchrpm]

Oh yeah, sorry, I meant first of the two, not overall.

[XHawkeye]

https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBiTAWh0dHBzOi8vZy5mb29sY2RuLmNvbS9pbW FnZS8_dXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZnLmZvb2xjZG4uY29tJTJG ZWRpdG9yaWFsJTJGaW1hZ2VzJTJGNDIwMDAyJTJGZmlhdC01MD Atb24tYW1hem9uLXZlaGljbGVzLmpwZWcmaD02MzAmdz0xMjAw Jm9wPXJlc2l6ZRTgEhTmCRwUhAYUlAMAABYAEgA&s=vGNYkS4UzeE-roY9ybH-rfi89Q_vsQVJ-nT5hsxGk6U

Bad news for U.S. car dealers -- and for TrueCar. $TRUE $AMZN (http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/11/20/amazoncom-just-took-another-big-step-toward-disrup.aspx)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy0toNEUAAA_VPb.jpg

Vanguard Roadster: All-new American motorcycle to debut in NYC
http://buff.ly/2gPiilO

[dodint]

I had one when I was a kid:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzUwWDEwMDA=/z/AqoAAOSw2ENW8Fy-/$_12.JPG?set_id=880000500F

[Godson]

That looks like shit.

[neanderthal]

That looks like shit.

Yup.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8eddQWgAE0_nX.jpg:large

@frozenspeed (https://twitter.com/Frozenspeed/status/805896492376539136) Understeer World Champion

[XHawkeye]

https://twitter.com/SebMorris31/status/810810908838600704 <--- Open for video

The greatest facepalm in all of motorsport? The guys reaction sums this up!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZA3qDq0FOE

[thesameguy]

Well, that's what you get for driving a yellow Ferrari. :smh:

[Phil_SS]

The R5 Turbo in the middle is so cute.

And that guy is a complete asshat.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0dAmufUsAA_ZA5.jpg:large

@lt_winslow (https://twitter.com/lt_winslow/status/812689298273214464) i love you, miami.

[Freude am Fahren]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/12/24/459976586/why-miami-cubans-roast-christmas-pigs-in-a-chinese-box

[thesameguy]

I had never heard of this, but at a friend's wedding a few months ago the reception dinner was prepared this way and it was delicious. A catering company brought the entire box in. It was damned morbid (speaking as a US consumer ;) ) but easily top 3 pork meals I've ever had. I have a really hard time facing my food (part of why I've been switching my diet) but even thinking about it several months later makes me hungry. So good.

[Yw-slayer]

Chinese wedding banquets usually feature a roast suckling pig on every table.

Suckling pigs are cute and tasty. Just like lambs.

[thesameguy]

I prefer hippos. Just a lot of gristle to get through.

[Yw-slayer]

Those are cute too, not so sure about taste.

[novicius]

Sloppy Mechanics '82 Ford Fairmont (https://sites.google.com/site/sloppywiki/sloppy-builds/fairmont-5-0) - 740whp @23psi and 9deg of timing, pump gas and methanol injection.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsnuoL8kOJk


Motor / trans / turbo / fuel
2001 5.3 block and crank, 06 rods and pistons off ebay (stock) stock oil pump, timing chain, pushrods, lifters, rockers, stock 862 heads still grimey from EGR and stock truck intake, stock throttle, nothing ported, also still grimey
re-used head gaskets from a friend, re used tty head bolts from another friend, trickflow 216/220 .560 114lsa camshaft from summit, pac1218 springs.
stock truck manifolds, turbo kit built by reiners, 1.90 ID piping, divided turbo kit, twin 44mm china wastegates, t4 flange, VS racing chinese 88/83 t4 turbo, vs racing 4 inch intercooler, 3 inch piping couplers and throttle body clamp from Squeeze performance.
80lb siemens deka injectors in stock return fuel rail, stock regulator, stock clip in feed and return lines from truck, 16gal fuel cell from a friend, feeding a holley 12-1800 fuel pump, 3/8ths fuel line to and from the stock intake.
fuel pump has twin pumps in it, running one all the time, 2nd one comes on with the methanol at 8psi or so. TH400 converter and dipstick purchased from a friend for 600, i really dont know anything about them but theyre working great, Ebay transmission cooler 110 dollars, in the back of the car.
EFI source, Ms3 Gold box for engine management, cooling mist trunk mount 1.5 gallon methanol kit. twin 5gph nozzles i think...

:lol:

(Yes-yes, turboing the bejeezus out of the 4.8/5.3L GM truck engines has been a thing since 2010 -- just thought this particular shitbox build was funny! :finger: )

[thesameguy]

Shiiii... I thought it was going to be the original 5.0 or 3.3. :smh:

I really gotta learn to weld.

[speedpimp]

Bad ass.

[novicius]

Shiiii... I thought it was going to be the original 5.0 or 3.3. :smh:
The 5.0 would have problems living for long under half this horsepower.

A junkyard '05-'06 4.8L LR4 with an eBay turbo & intercooler, Fel-Pro MLS head gaskets & ARP head studs, new cam & PAC-1218 springs. That's it -- the block, stock crank, rods & pistons will support Hellcat power (and if you want "only" 500 HP you don't even need to open up the LR4). Fuck these $10K+ engine builds! :lol:

Or you can order the official Sloppy Mechanics kit (http://www.vsracing.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1339&osCsid=42bc451fc8c8f26b383634ff5fdb5948) (new turbo included) for $825. He says that the kit comes with a GT45-68mm turbo which can produce big numbers but also act laggy -- go with the 72-76mm style turbo for quicker response.

(Injectors & fuel system upgrades for whatever you swap this into will be required too.)

[21Kid]

The cars people most regret buying (http://lifehacker.com/the-cars-people-regret-buying-most-according-to-consum-1790567505)

[Godson]

I see a lot more Chrysler products on that list than anything else.

[Drachen596]

Not sure where to put this in this section but this thread seems good.


I found out on New Years Eve that a car which went to SEMA was built 2 blocks from my house AND its actually a pretty unique car because of its history.

Its a 1970 Chevelle SS Pilot car. I had to actually look up what that meant as I'd never heard it before. They were typically pre-production units that weren't built on the factory line. They also usually met the crusher once the manufacturer was done with them.


Hotrod.com has an article with photos here. (http://www.hotrod.com/articles/1970-chevrolet-chevelle-ss396-pilot-car-escaped-general-motors-crusher-1969/)

[Freude am Fahren]

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jB_29CQq--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/n3husasxad6lwwam88om.png

[thesameguy]

All things in moderation, something I think Toyota has completely lost sight of.

Toyota's best cars were those that were neither completely out there nor completely boring. Cars that struck a happy medium between totally reasonable daily drivers but hinted at lots of fun you might have. The MkIV Camaro might be the sole exception here - it definitely was pushing it but still managed to be very attractive. Other things like Corolla GTSs, Celica, previous Supras, Soarer, Altezza, etc. were excellent engineering efforts backed by interesting but still inconspicuous styling. Now Toyota produces average engineering efforts smothered with borderline insane styling elements. I mean, look at those tail lights! WTF?

So, yeah, something a little more exciting than the 3rd gen IS, but maintain at least some sense of decorum.

[Freude am Fahren]

Dodge Challenger "Demon"

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--H1umdmPN--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/l95mavloxmyygtbex9jo.jpg

Other pictures show what look like Nitto drag radials. Not sure why you'd want a widebody on a drag car, but whatever, maybe those aren't drag radials, but big sticky rubber either way. Supposed to be lighter than Hellcat. Also has a "Race Fuel" button.

[dodint]

I saw a tease headline for this and wondered if Hellcat owners would be pissed. Also, I hope Hellcat prices plummet. :D

[Godson]

Looks like it has "skinny's" upfront to me.

[novicius]

I'm pretty down on the Stay-Puft look, actually. Much prefer the cleaner non-Demon models.

http://gtxforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2180&stc=1
http://gtxforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2181&stc=1

[Freude am Fahren]

Looks like a handling package.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C28tJsHXcAIw84i.jpg:large

Such pure beauty, Ford GT40 at Guadix (https://twitter.com/Frozenspeed/status/823926921427898368)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C28uIkUW8AEeBAS.jpg:large

Fair to say I am enjoying my first day at Guadix #BBSgold (https://twitter.com/Frozenspeed/status/823928100572512257)

[thesameguy]

SO. PRETTY.

[novicius]

Oh wow -- gorgeous shots, Hawkeye! :D :up:

[Yw-slayer]

Jacking it.

[Kchrpm]

So the Demon is definitely a drag car, Dodge has detailed the Nitto drag radial tires that it will come with.

http://jalopnik.com/the-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-will-have-the-widest-fro-1791648492

For some reason it will have the widest ever front tires on a production car, 315 mm. In fact, all four tires will be the same size, 315/40R18.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/xluoqtbmnmujd6zhheut.png

[Freude am Fahren]

So is it AWD? Why would you want big wheels on a RWD drag car?

[KillerB]

I think it has to be AWD.

[novicius]

I have read nothing confirming that it's AWD. Speculation based on the front tires, that's it.

Considering it's lost 200 lbs. without much else in the way of a redesign, my money says "no".

[speedpimp]

So will it be 666 hp or 1000 hp?

[thesameguy]

Maybe it has 315s all around to save money... buying & stocking one special tire is a lot cheaper than two

Adding AWD is probably ~250lbs these days, maybe a little more, and I think it's within reason that a 4200lb car could shed 450lbs and then gain 250lbs back. A Charger can get down to 3900lbs...

AWD on high torque vehicles is a real rarity. Center diffs that can take that kind of abuse are unusual - borderline unheard of.

There is always the JGC Hellcat that's AWD, so maybe ChryCo has one and are trying to spread out development costs.

[Freude am Fahren]

Jalopnik jokingly suggests that it's so you have a spare set of rears available. :lol:

But that may be somewhat true?

[balki]

Don't most racing regulations ban going wider than stock but usually allow going narrower?
Also, it could just come with 'track' packages that they'll use to put up a 7:30-7:40 ring time. It certainly help the last Camaro Z28 (guessing this has worse weight distribution)

Either way, dealers selling it with front tires skinnier than donut spares doesn't make much sense.

[novicius]

Jalopnik jokingly suggests that it's so you have a spare set of rears available. :lol:

But that may be somewhat true?
R&T said that as well. I believe that logic miles before I'll believe some 800HP supercharged HEMI is AWD with super-sticky tires and available with a warranty. :lol:

[Drachen596]

There is a new AWD Challenger model but V6 only same as the 300 lineup is so I would imagine the Demon isn't AWD. Why make it AWD anyway? would it be that much of a leg up on the competition?

Supposed to have more HP than the current Hellcat models right?

[Freude am Fahren]

I thought an AWD Hellcat was already rumored/confirmed?

[thesameguy]

Yes, in the JGC. Which is why I am pretty sure that system exists. If the system exists and the chassis can accept the components, the only thing that's left is the marketing decision.

[Phil_SS]

And lots of :toast:! Am I right!?!?!?

[speedpimp]

PaintRef.com (http://paintref.com/paintref/index.shtml). It looks like a good source if you're looking for info on anything auto paint related.

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZs8awkOk-g

Start watching at 40 seconds.

Even if the speedo is reading too fast (by a lot) still impressive.

[MR2 Fan]

I keep seeing all of these aftermarket headlights that have color changing LED's with then....but most of the colors would be illegal anyway, so just seems like a waste

[Drachen596]

the types of people that want those typically dont care if they're illegal.

[Drachen596]

Dodge just announced a 575 hp awd Durango Srt wearing 20 inch rims and some 6 piston brembos.

[KillerB]

It's 475 hp - it has the 6.4L naturally aspirated SRT Hemi.

My wife wants one.

[Drachen596]

yeah sorry 475. was typing that on my phone while at work. digital keyboards and my thumbs aren't friends.
I want one but i don't like how the back end looks.

Wonder if they'll build an SRT Wrangler, though its kind of an anti-Wrangler type of move.

[novicius]

Dodge announcing product, that's funny. They're done if they don't offer a credible small car or hybrid.

Whenever FCA finally shuts Dodge down, I will not be surprised.


EDIT: What they should do is transfer Durango and maybe Journey to RAM (otherwise a redesigned Journey to Chrysler, of course) and then shut down Dodge when the LX/LA platform no longer becomes viable. Maybe it's what they will do? Who knows, Marchionne makes decisions off the top of his head, it seems.

I suppose I should also throw in a note about the Durango itself. :D


The Durango SRT’s key specifications are enormous and impressive. It has 475 HP (!), 470 lb-ft of torque(!!), and more importantly, Dodge claims (http://media.fcanorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=18122&mid=1) that this six-seated porker can go from stopped to 60 mph in 4.4 seconds (!!!) and run a quarter mile in 12.9.
Thankfully Dodge had the forethought to equip the SUV with proportionate braking power, so the Durango SRT has high-end Brembo six-piston front and four-piston rear brakes with massive 15 and 13.8-inch rotors respectively.
I wonder how the new Charger's design language is being received in their marketing data? Must be good, they're continuing it here.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--wZMGUEqg--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ysch3oj6l3xocdn2sjgy.jpg

A big retro good ol' boy American V8 in a non-retro design language is still jarring to me. #shrug

Must be working for them.

[novicius]

Yes, in the JGC. Which is why I am pretty sure that system exists. If the system exists and the chassis can accept the components, the only thing that's left is the marketing decision.
Researching further into this, you're right -- the Trailhawk is (obviously) both Hellcat-ified and AWD so the system does exist.

Allpar.com sez this about the Demon (http://www.allpar.com/news/2017/01/challenger-demon-weight-loss-detailed-36346):


First, the Challenger Demon will have a unique steering column assembly which is four pounds lighter than the one in the Hellcat. SRT also removed the parking sensor system, to trim another two pounds.

Changes to the braking system including smaller rotors (from 390mm to 360mm) and calipers (6 pistons to 4) cut 16 pounds, the new 18″ wheels cut 16 pounds, a removal of some sound insulation and other “NVH” components cuts 18 pounds, lightweight suspension components cut 19 pounds, the removal of the spare tire/trunk materials cuts another 20 pounds and a scaled down audio system cuts 24 pounds.

Finally, the biggest weight cuts in the Challenger SRT Demon comes in the way of the seats – or the lack thereof. The Demon doesn’t come from the factory with a rear seat (cutting 55 pounds) or a passenger seat (cutting 58 pounds). That’s the biggest factor in the 232-pound diet: 113 pounds of seats.
Good to know -- are they optional? :lol:

[Freude am Fahren]

I don't like that it has a Hellcat hood and no Hellcat engine.

[thesameguy]

Good to know -- are they optional? :lol:

They are - I can't be arsed to find it, but I read an article on Autoblog (IIRC) over the weekend pointing this out. The Demon comes REALLY stripped down, but everything they removed is optional. They also "confirmed" (as much as anything can be) that it's RWD.

[balki]

are the door handles and side windows optional, or do we have to go in Dukes of Hazard style?

[balki]

Car Dealer question:
10-month old Mazda battery (likely installed by Mazda) from the previous owner just died.
Will another Mazda dealer honor the "1-36 months: Free replacement and labor" warranty? (other than buying a Toyota headgasket kit 15+ years ago I've not dealt with a dealer)

[21Kid]

I would sure hope so.

[KillerB]

I don't see any reason they can't keep improving the LX/LC platform for a while longer. It's not like it's body on frame and it no longer has any real competition. Being able to build a Mustang/Camaro competitor is icing on the cake.

Also, since the Jeep Wagoneer is going to be based on the Ram 1500, the JGC would benefit from a platform-mate, which is, IMO, why the Durango continues.

[neanderthal]

Sitting in traffic on the I5N at Sheldon the other day, all lanes stop and go except the carpool lane which was all go. Rained that morning, so i'm in the car.

Heard the sound of screeching brakes on my left. Looked up to see a Kia Soul merging from the #1 lane to the carpool lane, and ONE SECOND later, a Chrysler 200 slamming into the back of it. Nose down in "anchors aweigh"mode, he was frantically braking. Traffic moves and everybody fucks off.

I was literally the only person who stopped to check in on the drivers of both cars. And I was two lanes over. Errbody else just went on their way.

Both parties were ok.

Be careful out there guys. Especially if you ride. She didn't see a 3500lb car coming with headlights on. No chance she'd see you.

Edit; sorry. I thought we had an omnibus "bad driving" thread but I couldn't find it. Dumped it in here as a result.

[Freude am Fahren]

It's in the Pit Stop.

And aren't carpool lanes over there double-yellowed with designated entry/exit points? Did they also cross a double-yellow?

[CudaMan]

I'm always nervous about that exact scenario when I'm moving along in a carpool lane and traffic next to me is at a dead stop. Most of the time there's no additional shoulder to the left of the carpool lane, so if someone pulls out you're screwed.

[Freude am Fahren]

Yeah, we even have that issue here where they put plastic poles up between the normal lanes and express lanes. I try to travel in the left of the two express lanes when on my bike with slow traffic in the normal lanes. It's against my normal stay right except to pass rule following, but people on bikes have died here because of it. I will move over right if someone is coming up behind me...



...which has never happened on the bike in the express lanes :D

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Mc5fOUYAAwqUm.jpg:large

Looks legit (https://twitter.com/AxisOfOversteer/status/829538544720883712/photo/1)

[balki]

so a bare pole to smash your spine against for the wheelie to come, certainly seems legit

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Q1851WIAUYCkR.jpg:large

Newbury St in Boston, looks like. Bought it to drive it, I guess. (https://twitter.com/john__rosevear/status/829854238314524672)

[MR2 Fan]

Regarding Lexus styling, I really haven't been a fan of it lately. They seem stuck on this "Spindle" grille and have some other odd design choices.

Having said that, the new LC 500 looks like they almost have it right:

https://robbreport.com/sites/default/files/styles/original_image/public/galleries/2016/01/lexus-lc-500-08.jpg?itok=rLgD4DlX
http://unratedflair.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016-Lexus-LC-500-at-NAIAS-2016.jpg

Quite good looking, and I only feel like changing the grille a bit, instead of the whole front end (though in BLACK it's much nicer overall IMO).

The rear of the car is a bit wide, but I can live with it.

They also get the headlights looking good, UNLIKE the new RC

http://photos-1.carwow.co.uk/models/1600x800/RC-F-Solar-Flare-dynamic-14-e1447409723674.jpg

They are close to making it look decent but then they get to the headlight setup, but then just FAIL HARD.

[Godson]

My fucking hero

[Kchrpm]

SUPERFAST!!!!

http://jalopnik.com/the-new-ferrari-812-superfast-has-790-horsepower-but-wh-1792426857

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/p46ibao9wwe7qnchdgut.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ogitpbjynfbhr709mhpj.jpg

[balki]

well, Lambo has taken up SuperVeloce
Superfast in English may sounds good (or at least acceptable) to an Italian.

regardless, that's the most beautiful modern car I've seen.

[Freude am Fahren]

I don't think it looks as good as the F12, honestly. Other than the rear. The rear is a huge improvement.

[GB]

Who is Dakota Fletcher on FB with the blue Camaro?

[Kchrpm]

A friend of Godson/Tyler's that was introduced to our crazy town but I don't think posts or joined.

[Godson]

A friend of Godson/Tyler's that was introduced to our crazy town but I don't think posts or joined.

This.

[GB]

:up:

Explains why I couldn't work out the GTXF username for him.

[novicius]

'66 DeTomaso P70

http://gtxforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2255&stc=1

In what realm of motorsport was this considered safe?? :lol: #lapbeltsonly

[Kchrpm]

http://jalopnik.com/audi-just-obliterated-tragic-bmw-owners-on-twitter-1792610312

[Phil_SS]

The NSX video in the comments is like WHAT!!!?!?!?!?!?!?! :twitch:

[Kchrpm]

McLaren 720S

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1wX2IEwN--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/cr5jwnhnshfb83fdda4l.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--PK1NxiJf--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ispfzezlpsyiuyg247gj.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Nxl9tEEX--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/r7wjq10xoqiqrei4wozd.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2cxUpBCU--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/s96pih4pckws7mrnkcwg.jpg

http://jalopnik.com/2018-mclaren-720s-this-is-more-of-it-1793036800

http://jalopnik.com/the-mclaren-720s-is-a-stunning-supercar-beauty-with-710-1792801034

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/03/07/mclaren-720s-hotblooded-englishman-geneva-98432/


Peak power rises from the 650S model's 641 horsepower to 710 at 7,250 rpm, and peak torque goes up from 500 pound feet to 568, though we're not told at what revs this occurs. Carbon-dioxide emissions are down, which is often an indication of a slightly more flexible power unit.

Performance, never a weak spot for McLaren, has been improved for the 720S. Compared to the 650S coupe, the 0-62 mph time is down from 3.0 to 2.9 seconds, 0-124 mph is down from 8.4 to 7.8 seconds, and 0-186 mph (should your state's authorities deem it legal) is reduced from 25.4 to 21.4 seconds. Top speed increases from 207 to 212 mph, and the standing quarter-mile time is down from 10.5 to 10.3 seconds.

Weight has been shed, too, down 40 pounds from the 650S to 2,829 pounds dry and 3,128 fueled.

[XHawkeye]

Yellowbird 2.0

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2017-RUF-CTR-Geneva-PLACEMENT-626x383.jpg

http://blog.caranddriver.com/yellowbird-reborn-rufs-new-225-mph-911-ctr-has-700-hp-and-a-carbon-fiber-monocoque/

[thesameguy]

Well, that's mighty nice.

I wonder how terrifying it is compared to the original?

[Godson]

That's phenomenal. The 720s looks...Dumb.

[TheBenior]

A co-worker's 2013 BMW 528i XDrive just had it's transfer case fail on him with a few thousand miles to go on the original warranty. Fortunate for him that it's covered; random internet perusing suggests that it would be a $4,000 job at the dealer, and that it's not all that uncommon.

Maybe that sort of thing is why BMW added a year and 14,000 miles to their comprehensive warranty, but took a year and 10,000 miles off their powertrain warranty to equalize them at 4 years/50,000 miles several years back. "We're extending the comprehensive warranty! ...and reducing the powertrain warranty because of all our engine and transmission failures."

[dodint]

Our '08 is chugging along nicely, other than the turbo issues we have discussed.

[balki]

McLaren 720S, more power, less weight? :up:

Yellowbird 2.0 :up:
700-hp :up:
2640 pounds :up: :up: :up:

[TheBenior]

Our '08 is chugging along nicely, other than the turbo issues we have discussed.

That's good, because even in the E60, transfer cases are $1000 in used condition.

[dodint]

Well, the turbos are $900 each and come in pairs. :lol:

[Godson]

My transfer case used is only 325...

[TheBenior]

MSRP on a new transfer case is $2400.

List on my OEM turbo is $1261, but it can be found for mid $800s. Then the other associated bits can add $200-300.

[thesameguy]

I only paid $350 for my turbo, and it came with an XR4Ti.

[novicius]

Zing! :lol:

[novicius]

EDIT: Moved to correct thread here (http://gtxforums.net/showthread.php?47-craigslist-finds&p=97866&viewfull=1#post97866).

[thesameguy]

If you'd have told me ten years ago fox body Mustangs would ever appreciate, I'd have told you that you were nuts! That guy played a long game for sure!

[novicius]

Heh completely missed that I posted this in the wrong thread! :lol:

[balki]

seems like everything is appreciating after about 20-25 years (unless it's an NSX, FD RX-7, ... that started appreciating less than 10 years out)

[Freude am Fahren]

Yeah, I was kinda hoping the BRZ was a flop and discontinued after a couple years, so it could start appreciating before I'm done with it ;D

[21Kid]

This Tesla Owner Wrapped His Model S To Look Like A Cartoon (http://jalopnik.com/this-tesla-owner-wrapped-his-model-s-to-look-like-a-car-1793211617)

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GSzVo0c8--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ucrboac5rkx5azh091mb.png

[novicius]

:up: :up: #automodellista

[thesameguy]

That is brilliant.

I would love to do that with the XR or SPG. :up:

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOsqp-mXrUo

[balki]

5+ years at rates that are only going to go up? That bubble is going to burst hard.
Do banks not look where they lend money out?

[speedpimp]

Dodge Demon will come with a tool kit. (http://autoweek.com/article/new-york-auto-show/heres-what-youll-get-dodge-srt-demon-crate?utm_source=DailyDrive20170315&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_term=headline-center&utm_content=body&utm_campaign=awdailydrive)

[Freude am Fahren]

I think the tool behind the wheel is enough

:p

[dodint]

Damn. Comes with a Snap-On (all the tools are SO) cordless impact wrench.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7jElu1W4AEzC88.jpg:large

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8BusHVXwAEz66o.jpg:large

[Freude am Fahren]

OMG want.

[thesameguy]

That is so great!

[George]

Another Beetle ruined.

Factory original should be THE LAW. :angry:

(exceptions occasionally made for stock-appearing sleepers with monster engines)

:)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8HjTs2XQAAUh1U.jpg:large

[dodint]

The rust stains seeping over the edges of that widebody kit is both sad and cathartic.

[Yw-slayer]

Hate new minis.

Hate hate hate

[Fogelhund]

That 959 kit is actually pretty amusing. But wait, there's more.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-J1rlXMK3W10/VVzy1-emCWI/AAAAAAAA7w8/xcXn2gxF5BQ/s1600/Porsche-VW-2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5LzDFoZEdJI/VVzy1UF5BFI/AAAAAAAA7w4/rdkBAiBRhWQ/s1600/Porsche-VW-11.jpg

[drew]

Gold. :lol:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8a52zxWsAAKny9.jpg:large

And a Ferrari cries quietly to itself..
@hypebeast http://ift.tt/2nLel51 pic.twitter.com/cxqTCN5qsn

[speedpimp]

Fawkin' sweet.

[dodint]

Alright. Now I want a widebody Beetle.

[Alan P]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8a52zxWsAAKny9.jpg:large

And a Ferrari cries quietly to itself..
@hypebeast http://ift.tt/2nLel51 pic.twitter.com/cxqTCN5qsn
I guess it's true. Money can't buy taste.

[Godson]

That's fucking funny though.

[balki]

That's wrapped (where the vinyl peels offs), I hope.
Not tasteful, but certainly funny.

Anyone been to an auto show? Haven't gone in years, don't recall it being worth it then

[novicius]

Yep it's a good time with friends -- you'll probably hate it like you hate life tho'. :toast:

[TheBenior]

I just ordered some Weathertech floor liners for my Mazdaspeed3 to replace the worn all-weather driver's side mat (wore a hole through it below the clutch pedal).

Amazon price with tax and Prime shipping: Just over $100.

Weathertech price with tax and shipping:$137. Their price before tax and shipping was $110. Even if I drove to the factory store in Bolingbrook, IL, I'd still be paying an extra $20 without factoring in gas.

[XHawkeye]

http://www.oldbug.com/IMG_0944.JPG

Newman had one of the best if not the best sleeper of all time… (http://www.oldbug.com/newmanvw.htm)

[thesameguy]

Not my style, but I sure do love all the detail!

[Kchrpm]

Dallara, the maker of so many prototype/open wheel race cars, is making a road car.

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/04/18/dallara-road-car-at-nurburgring-spy-photos/

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/499/291/9/S4992919/slug/l/dallara-road-car-004-1.jpg

https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/499/292/4/S4992924/slug/l/dallara-road-car-008-1.jpg

[XHawkeye]

Those high sills kinda hurt its usefulness as a daily driver. :p

[Fogelhund]

It looks kind of awkward.

[speedpimp]

At least it doesn't look like a kit car.

[dodint]

B, I yanked this from the Twitter thread, hope you don't mind:


I've found myself thinking about designs that I don't think age well vs. ones that I think almost look modern despite their age (the NSX comes to mind, that has aged rather gracefully IMHO). That [BMW 3.0CSL] does not look like it came from the mid-70s to me.

There is kind of a philosophical mechanism at play here, in a way. What does it mean to age well? Are you saying that the design stands on its own and is timeless; or that it would fit in among contemporary designs? It's an important distinction and I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Mainly because you used the example of the NSX which does still look great. I happen to think that design has an elegance and creativity that exceeds the current offering; most new cars lack any kind of character that sets them apart from the field in a way that does not look garish. I like older cars specifically because they don't look like the jelly beans that roam the earth today.

I have a tough time thinking of a design that could be released today that would fit in with contemporaries and still look good. 300ZX maybe. McLaren F1, clearly.
If you painted a DMC and swapped modern wheels on it would pass for a car made 25 years later.

Maybe you meant style and not necessarily design, if so I'd buy both the E9 and original NSX as having aged well.

[novicius]

Cars built in the last ten years have tall snouts. Ergo by definition an NSX or F1 is dated. Hell my Momma's '01 Pontiac Grand Prix snout is low as hell and looks out of place. You'd have to look at a tall snout car from the '70s/'80s/'90s that would fit.

Cars from the '30s/'40s/'50s are almost more likely to be true candidates to be "timeless", technically speaking. :lol:

[dodint]

That's what I'm saying. Modern cars are garbage stylistically; I don't think being 'timeless' is a good thing in that context.

[MR2 Fan]

Cars built in the last ten years have tall snouts. Ergo by definition an NSX or F1 is dated.

Is that because of the pedestrian laws passed in Europe?

I agree that most newer cars in general aren't great looking, even the new NSX I haven't really gotten to like yet.

[Godson]

New NSX looks way better in flesh.

I hate it in photos, but the thing in person is about perfect.

[dodint]

I walked right by it at PIAS and didn't even notice it. I wanted to see it in person to really get a feel and forgot despite standing next to it. *yawn*

[thesameguy]

Weird and cool - I enjoyed reading this!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/this-is-the-holy-grail-of-jeep-accessories/ar-BBABwmJ?li=BBisPVf&ocid=spartanntp

[dodint]

Neat Bond cars site:

http://www.evanshalshaw.com/more/bondcars/

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU4bIsdnbkM&t=0s

If this video doesn't make you smile, you need to go to the ER.

[Kchrpm]

That Dallara from before? It's aiming for 800 kg (~1764 lbs) and 380-400 hp from a Ford turbo 4.

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/12/spy-photos-closeups-road-legal-dallara/

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_-M-v2UwAEUs2N.jpg:large

#TVR #Sagaris

[Godson]

It's like a viper, but crazier.

[thesameguy]

Bingo!

[XHawkeye]

Can only read the numbers but the pictures are cool.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_33z_hUAAEs8Lw.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_-mzPfVoAATtlp.jpg:large

Espera, que hi ha 2a part pic.twitter.com/kzJArJ63UL

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_5CYqnXYAA_K0Q.jpg:large

Guia super-util per a qui pogui entendre japonès pic.twitter.com/tSVfKDeNVr

[thesameguy]

Makes me think of old Tamiya catalogs. :up:

[XHawkeye]

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/2510.jpg

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/poor-vette/

[drew]

I think that was here.

Tear-worthy in any case.

[pl8ster]

Florida Man strikes again. What an asshole.

[TheBenior]

You can't see the sticker with Calvin peeing on the Chevy logo on the backlight of the Fusion.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBDhfD8XsAADG2-.jpg:large

Proof positive, bonnet mascots are a loss on so many cars these days.... pic.twitter.com/tTbYhwp8GH

[Godson]

Fucking love it.

Trying to talk a buddy into a Continental GT Speed for what he is looking for. Those cars are simply stunning.

[XHawkeye]

https://vimeo.com/218975451

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1110722_watch-a-porsche-917-engine-get-torn-down-and-rebuilt-in-under-less-than-minutes

[Kchrpm]

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/06/07/between-rental-lease-ford-offering-short-term-car-subsciptions/

One month-to-month payment gets you a used Ford, maintenance, insurance, and roadside assistance. All you have to pay for is gas.

[thesameguy]

I knew this was coming - I don't know if people in general are ready for it, but putting cars on a subscription was absolutely gonna happen. The "lease epidemic" was just the first step.

[Kchrpm]

Carlo made an excellent point in chat: depending on price, this could be great for winter car use. Spend $200-$300/month on a Fiesta when the weather's too bad for your sports car instead of getting an old beater.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB8aKtvXYAEsXJp.jpg:large

fun with photoshop

[MR2 Fan]

The Karma (Formerly Fisker) is apparently back...just saw a Youtube ad about it.

[novicius]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP06gvFWW64

[dodint]

Take my money!

[thesameguy]

Now I'll never sell that Viggen. I cant compete with that. :(

[21Kid]

:lol: That is awesome!

[Phil_SS]

Effin classic. :lol:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DChNwAZXoAA1L0s.jpg

I had mistaken this car for a Lada until I saw the number plate. @CoddersF1 (https://twitter.com/CoddersF1/status/876035629531975680)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCbxS1wVwAAu80Z.jpg

[thesameguy]

That Vitara video led me to this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ0nkStZnWo

[XHawkeye]

Open for gif

And you thought the #MonacoGP TV director was bad. (https://twitter.com/Teammatestoon/status/878636397573414912)

(The driver was OK!) (https://twitter.com/Teammatestoon/status/878636397573414912)