Miscellaneous Stuff

[MR2 Fan]

That was my plan for an autocross setup. Get a truck with a large bed, and a classic Mini that fits in the back, then drive it to autocross events.

[balki]

The thing that confuses me about that pic is that a work truck that long should fir the Smart in the bed entirely, instead there's and extra set of doors

[SportWagon]

Yeah, it's a short bed pickup. You probably could get long bed plus 4 doors, but the owner couldn't afford it. Or maybe the option wasn't available. Possibly hadn't originally planned to carry the car that way.

[speedpimp]

The thing that confuses me about that pic is that a work truck that long should fir the Smart in the bed entirely, instead there's and extra set of doors

That's not a work truck. That is a penis extension and the Smart Car is the Prince Albert.

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77WmGcR3yUA

Beautiful Engine Teardown - Stop Motion - Miata MX5

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx4TIFMW0AAX_2-.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx4TIFLWkAI7PQL.jpg

Customized Ford Raptor with the Body of a International, badging on the truck was “Interraptor”displayed at the Grand National Roadster Show

[George]

:up:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyLpgjYXQAEZIwf.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyL3TSuVsAA8CxE.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyPMs8MXQAAFBtg.jpg

Best van wrap ever?

[XHawkeye]

They say it's lonely at the top.......... (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1089938816130076672) <--- Open for video

[speedpimp]

Yeah he impregnated the poodle on that one.

[Freude am Fahren]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyPMs8MXQAAFBtg.jpg

Best van wrap ever?

I didn't even notice until I read your caption.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DySLhgVU0AIGj-a.jpg

[MR2 Fan]

:up:

[XHawkeye]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com/vp/c3e5732cb175071179e814ed8f665691/5D011EB2/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/50863755_101168664325938_6967197644140533435_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtUcRTjB1Ns

[Godson]

What the hell is all of that?

[dodint]

vortexradar
The last two days I’ve been busy!! Complete and total uninstall for the Miata. #radardetector #laserjammer #miata



TheBigHitbusterbusterbusterquote.txt

[Leon]

I still don't understand.

[XHawkeye]

The guy who has a website https://www.vortexradar.com and YT channel https://www.youtube.com/user/TravelCam1111/videos?disable_polymer=1 where he reviews radar detectors, laser jammers, dash cams and the like.

The pile of stuff around the car are the radar detectors, laser jammers & dash cams he removed from the car. The speculation is that he's getting a new car.

https://www.vortexradar.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Miata-front-grill-with-remotes-labeled-768x512.jpg

He runs multiple units at the same time for comparison testing.

[JoshInKC]

Now I get it.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyXjPnKX0AAx9cO.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyXGDq5U8AAtW-f.jpg

His name is Snap-on

[Freude am Fahren]

:up:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyumkovX0AA9j4b.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com/vp/c3e5732cb175071179e814ed8f665691/5D011EB2/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/50863755_101168664325938_6967197644140533435_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtUcRTjB1Ns


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyqHI1GMFEo

[speedpimp]

When it comes to the door knob, necessity is the mother of invention.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyrdzSfUUAAejF_.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyRnxENVsAA9iAU.jpg

[speedpimp]

First one I've seen set up as a 5th wheel. I did see one today hauling a Raptor crew cab heading towards the sand dunes in Northern Michigan.

That Porka is bad ass.

[Dicknose]

"bad, ass"

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzR3VnBWoAAIDHc.jpg

Meet the Vandal One (https://www.vandalcars.com/), an American-Made, 1,200-LB Track Car With a 560-HP #Civic #TypeR Heart a #BorgWarner EFR 7163 turbo, port and direct injectors, and other enhancements, delivering both more boost and the ability to rev to 9,100 rpm Maximum output? Figure 550 to 560 horsepower

[Kchrpm]

That's hot.

[dodint]

Neat. I still have my heart set on a Sin R1 though, I think.

[XHawkeye]

NEW VIDEO - BREAKING News Multiple semitruck 30+ on highway 70 just west of the Concordia, MO exit! (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1096554007357808642) <--- Open for video

[Godson]

There is a reported fatality in that accident.

[speedpimp]

That sent a chill down my spine.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzrHpXdWoAAOIej.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzrHpXkWsAEI66z.jpg

Just in: it's 276bhp for the new Ford Focus ST... #ford @forduk @FordPerformance https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/focus-st/22293/all-new-2019-ford-focus-st-revealed-back-in-the-ring-against-i30-n-and-golf-gti …

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzoR1BiWkAEbVgo.jpg

:eek:

[XHawkeye]

Fun with paper airplanes (https://twitter.com/StefanodocSM/status/1097079807240744961)<--- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzubJDUX4AAE9Fa.jpg

[XHawkeye]

Skiing <--- Open for video (https://twitter.com/Crazzyintheusa/status/1098583339924185089)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0HFWVyWoAAel6p.jpg

[speedpimp]

Very nice.

[21Kid]

Cool!

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0blGqsWwAIyPf4.jpg

#SteveSpeedZA Blog Alert Ginetta Cars Unveils First Ever Supercar https://stevespeedza.blogspot.com/2019/02/ginetta-cars-unveils-first-

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0c3jStWwAIaHHQ.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0fpt6iXQAAEqny.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0rhz9DWsAEgo2X.jpg

[speedpimp]

That Ginetta looks like something out of the next FnF.

[George]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/4a/a8/b54aa845ea2b4eb42bd981e230336562.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0vK6LOUYAM_O8L.jpg

[speedpimp]

I would love to know how they mounted that. Seems like it would help turn the car into a wheelstander.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0-ylOAWwAE9Opy.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1103116381799763969/oBAnCfMz?format=jpg&name=600x314

The Touareg V10 fix up begins (https://twitter.com/stefthepef/status/1103116379794952193)

[George]

I would love to know how they mounted that. Seems like it would help turn the car into a wheelstander.

Wow, an upper patio and umbrella, too! Do they have a diving board up there also so you could back it up to a pool or lake? :lol: :up:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0Ic9HsUYAAoJQ3.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0U-6YnXgAEdKmH.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1IYkq2XQAAINTs.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1QFFxcX4AEG7XH.jpg

[Godson]

Part of me wants to watch that shit show unfold, part of me wants to be nowhere near it when it does.

[speedpimp]

What could possibly go wrong?

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1ZH53VWsAMYnVA.jpg

[IMOA]

Jim Richards car. As a 4 year old in NZ dad would walk us to the garage at the end of the street where he used to build his racecars then out to the track to watch him on weekends. After we moved to Australia he'd then take us out to watch a kiwi killing everyone in the Australian driving chanpionship driving that BMW. Made a pretty big impact on a 14/15 year old seeing another kiwi beating the Australians on their turf. Then the Australian grand prix started so automatically I was drawn to the F1 car in the JPS livery that was was having the wheels driven off it by the bloke with the yellow helmet. Fwiw after that Jim Richards moved on to Nissan and was the first driver to start winning in the R32 GTR.

But basically my whole love of motorsport and driving starts with that 635CSI. Just a beautiful racecar.

[dodint]

Unf.

[Leon]

Yeah, the 635csi made such an elegant race car :)

[SportWagon]

John Player Special livery.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1eLqxwX4AA4pqu.jpg

[Dicknose]

Jim Richards car.
Fwiw after that Jim Richards moved on to Nissan and was the first driver to start winning in the R32 GTR.


Jim was a great driver - still is, he does the occasional event!
2nd in Bathurst 1000 wins (and his son has 5 - they shared a podium a few times)
Won with the GTR and gave the infamous "pack of arseholes" line.

But that was a great car and great livery.

Oh and "TAA" - an airline that is no more (got merged with QANTAS). Had a cousin who worked for them and she featured in some of the tv ads.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1dvv2JWwAUeyzm.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1ef7wlWwAEWKaT.jpg

[XHawkeye]

And the result of the jury is 8.6 8.4 8.4 8.2 8.5 the landing could be better (https://twitter.com/Bertieschip/status/1105518054119747586) <--- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1XYrdsXcAAlBkF.jpg

North central ND on Highway 281 between Minnewaukan and Highway 2.

[XHawkeye]

Amarillo TX had winds sustained at 64 MPH for a bit and gusts to 80 MPH! Damage all around town, over 40 semi trucks blown over just in the Amarillo area. I was able to capture 2 trucks being blown over on Lakeside just north of I-40. (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1106135174079832065) <-- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

Love this camera angle #motorcycles #motorbike #GoPro (https://twitter.com/GazTankMotors/status/1108467141072830464) <--- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2nYLMTWoAAjnav.jpg

[Dicknose]

"None shall pass"

[SportWagon]

Took a while for me to realize that was a ladder on top of the vehicle, and not some kind of a small wall on the terrain at the side of the road.

[speedpimp]

It's an SUV but it identifies as a helicopter.

[Dicknose]

Ive done something similar on the bike - had some poles on the back rack - mounted width wise.
Spent the whole ride going "dont lane split".
Also adjusted my mirrors so they looked at the overhang so every glance reminded me Im wide. Still nowhere near as wide as a car, but about a foot wider each side than my mirrors (the normal wide point)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2xRmOWW0AAqfBD.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3GMY90VAAEq7S4.jpg

https://twitter.com/DCCARGEEK/status/1112824949939494912

[MR2 Fan]

in awe...love the music too


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ7SljP_vuA

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3m1DNcWsAAoDLm.jpg

Good. https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/baath1/twin_turbo_ls_swapped_ferrari_550/ …

https://twitter.com/hoonable/status/1115121518512619521

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3xGJ1pW4AAD90g.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3xtZWEXsAASTam.jpg

Taking the #ContinentalGT3 to Silverstone today...using a 1931 Bentley Blower. Almost 90 years between old and new! #Bentley #SilverstoneClassic (https://twitter.com/Mike_Sayer/status/1115887142255910912)

[SportWagon]

Lorry drivers, indeed.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D34DIBmWsAEvy7Q.jpg

Panda wonders will never cease. (https://twitter.com/AnotherEdFoster/status/1116333205320237056)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4Mdw6RXoAEGEfA.jpg

this is what we automotive repair experts technically refer to as an "engine that needs to be fixed" (https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/1117769948158361600/photo/1)

[Phil_SS]

What is that? The link doesn't work.

[Godson]

Looks like a diesel engine shredded it's a block...

[speedpimp]

Looks like a diesel engine shredded it's a block...

among others things...:p

[George]

https://i.redd.it/bq4lwz49pvs21.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4dz4YYWkAgUAbs.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4mrQTlWwAAjCi_.jpg

[George]

Interesting collection of cars and similar vehicles with more or fewer wheels than the usual four:

http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/nwheelcar/nwheelcar.htm

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5qxCCVXkAECwir.jpg

[Denetti]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=8-OoSWhIukM

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5vxGujWwAA0zn4.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6NhCGcW0AAZpPs.jpg

[XHawkeye]

1/2 Last year I decided to start a project that I hadn’t seen done... to draw an F1 car in pretty much life size scale all in coloured pencil.... I planned on finishing it last year within a couple of months. It things and life happens and I finished it last weekend... (https://twitter.com/Julietmarshy/status/1127528912655998976/photo/1)

2/2 I’m really happy that I didn’t give up and managed to get it done, a piece that I’m proud of and that doesn’t often happen 😄 so it took, * Approx 20 pencils * 4 markers * 3 weeks work time over a year * 1 large charcoal block * blood, sweat, tears * and all of my patience (https://twitter.com/Julietmarshy/status/1127529377951043584/photo/1)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6XJiTGXsAAxlLd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6XJiTIXsAAIcSS.jpg

[2ndMoparMan]

So I need to buy a new car, basically. Water pump and coolant lines going into the engine need replacement. 2002 VW Passat 1.8 front wheel drive, so getting at the stuff is impossible. 2k in parts and labor total. Gonna look at a 2001 Lexus LS430 tommrow. 174k miles, asking 3299. What do ya'll think? Car does have a VSC and CEL on, but my dad has a code puller, so we're gonna find out what the CEL acaully is, which could be caused by the VSC.

[Godson]

I'll sell you a Corvette...

[Yw-slayer]

Going from one old luxobarge to another??!

[2ndMoparMan]

Ended up buying the Acura. The Lexus had a random cylinder misfire code, which could be anything from spark plugs to something much much worse. Paid 2800 for the new(to me) car.

[XHawkeye]

Hand stand, Big Foot Style (https://twitter.com/Bertieschip/status/1127145743419158528/video/1) <--- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

Little too soon (https://twitter.com/TheFigen/status/1121436014088790016/video/1) <--- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ICzjf3Ys2I

[SportWagon]

Amazing how one can recognize it clearly without ever really having been there. (Confirming later with the well-known landmarks).
I liked the minivans somewhat early on.

Though the most amazing thing was the black sedan which suddenly seemed to appear from nowhere behind. And then seemed to remain in sight as a rabbit. At places the action looked downright dangerous. The drivers must be well-schooled in protocol.

[XHawkeye]

From the Sublime...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7RHQAaXYAElBBf.jpg


... to the ridiculous

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7P_INUWkAEM1os.jpg

[Leon]

What the ?

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Zz0LLW4AABFAi.jpg

[Yw-slayer]

If indicator lights were made a USD2,000 option on German cars, maybe the drivers would actually START using them as a status symbol!

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-vA3JwaF_o

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7ipGrZWwAEAf5b.jpg

Springtime in Wyoming. Another image of 4 inch deep hail on I-25 near exit 65. Image courtesy of Bill Kirlin.

https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1132841244034523136/photo/1

[Dicknose]

Yeah we get some good hail here in Sydney but never snow. Best hail is in summer!
Had a huge hailstorm a few years ago and the roads where green and white - the green was all the leaves stripped off trees.
Cracked concrete roof tiles (we dont use slate!) and it was about a 1 year backlog of repairs for roofs and cars.

But damn that is pretty impressive coverage of hail!

[XHawkeye]

That was close (https://twitter.com/DrivingforLife1/status/1018149865556185089/video/1) <--- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7mciC3XYAY81XS.jpg

Goodmorning from Laguna Seca! #ExclusiveTrackdays

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3R5fEBWsAAwc_I.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D776Qw7XsAENfWn.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D776RyNXsAAq1Xt.jpg

here is a motorhome with Toyota Venza headlights and Kia Soul taillights (https://twitter.com/smokyburnout/status/1134619567106531329/photo/1)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D778rJ2XoAE0e4l.jpg

I saw one with two sets of Odyssey lights stacked on top of each other

[MR2 Fan]

it's pretty common for them to use off the shelf parts for headlights and taillights

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8DwRiKXUAAnVQh.jpg

Typo in a £140,000 Mercedes. Acceptable? (https://twitter.com/mrroryreid/status/1135171295052795905)

[XHawkeye]

https://twitter.com/morrissinghs/status/1134414361877975041/video/1 <--- Open for video

First thing I thought about were the poor wheel bearings.

[MR2 Fan]

Ferrari SF90 - Believe it or not....Ferrari's FIRST EVER....front wheel drive car!!............................................. ....................................if you run it in full electric mode with the 2 electric motors only


Actually this thing is insane, All-wheel drive, 980 something HP....can go I think 30 miles on full electric power. The only thing I'm not sure of, is the steering wheel has touch screen controls....really don't think that is a good idea.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/LOrAj/s1/ferrari-sf90-stradale.jpg

[George]

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikeforums.net-vbulletin/1320x2000/cfac6fe70db01291837c3d18b2510af3_a415fdaa0471d621f 0c46526030c774dbff04b47.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8vqJlHXUAEGwP8.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D85JrcEWwAAST5c.jpg

[SportWagon]

Caused me to read Wikipedia about the Talbot Horizon, confirming that I had seen it in North America as the Plymouth Horizon.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9CQgWEXoAEH0y1.jpg

Citroën ½CV? (https://twitter.com/marcus_t_ward/status/1139569614084612101/photo/1)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9Skf_NXoAAsObu.jpg

[speedpimp]

3312

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9Wc0UtWsAAC_yN.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9W7vb-XUAAwJNH.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9X0A-KXYAE6qAi.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9lQvbJXoAABMFA.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D95EsmOWsAAi2vA.jpg

Austin Power's level skill

[speedpimp]

That takes a lot of talent and luck.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-QcdFCXkAEHdA8.jpg

[MR2 Fan]

never skip leg day

[George]

Typical 2010s car mod - headlights so damn bright they even hurt to look at in a photograph!

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-YjNIiXYAMhzMO.jpg

Just a father and son, using VR headsets, while waiting for their Tesla to charge. (📷 via Tomio_Tanuki)

[Yw-slayer]

They should be pumping iron.

[XHawkeye]

Animated chart of the day: Market shares of US auto sales, 1961 to 2018 (https://www.aei.org/publication/animated-chart-of-the-day-market-shares-of-us-auto-sales-1961-to-2016/)

[MR2 Fan]

It's interesting. The Japanese brands seemingly made less of an impact in the 70's and 80's than I would have expected from the narrative we hear about (oil crisis, cheaper, more fuel efficient and reliable cars going way up in sales)

[Freude am Fahren]

Toyota and Nissan did jump up pretty considerably in about 1970 and again in 1980. Maybe not a considerable impact to the big 3, but they about doubled in each of those years. Honda was a bit of a late-comer though and made a huge jump in 1980.

It's kinda interesting that they don't account for the merger of Daimler and Chrysler.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-veNVtXoAIlBc-.jpg

https://twitter.com/Crazzyintheusa/status/1147254862817779712/photo/1

[George]

Them Duke boys are at it again...

https://media1.giphy.com/media/aYUwf6CjNGrfi/giphy.gif

[XHawkeye]

https://youtu.be/XWKSUlectK4?t=151

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_JFKLMXkAEUjDk.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_JFKLBXUAAy60l.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi3vDNnYXUQ&feature=youtu.be

http://www.moosemods.com/moose-ls3-performance-mods.html

[Dicknose]

In Australia we would say that car is cactus
(slang for broken)

[Freude am Fahren]

http://www.moosemods.com/moose-ls3-performance-mods.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPakbghLe38

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D__5P4GWsAAWbQk.jpg

Crankshaft for the 1963 Honda RC115, 50cc twin, with red line at 21,500 RPM.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_1LKURWkAEsE31.jpg

"Can you really run a Formula 1 car as a track day toy?

https://www.evo.co.uk/features/22880/a-hanger-full-of-used-formula-1-cars-and-how-you-can-own-one

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EARs6FzUYAAUM28?format=jpg&name=large

First half 2019 EU sales. Via @lovecarindustry

[dodint]

Are those actual numbers? As in, the ATS sold literally 11 cars?

Legit didn't know at least 3-4 of those cars were still on the market. Like the S60 and ATS.

[XHawkeye]

How to get in a Lambo with class and dignity

https://twitter.com/Earlsimxx/status/1155814104306737153 <--- Open for video

[Dicknose]

Funny - thats why I went on a diet when I got the Spyder.
Actually getting in the convertible is easy if the roof is down, but out is still hard.

Oh and a few years ago at the F1 in Melbourne they had Mark Webber driver a 918 around. Took a journo for a lap and when the guy went to get out he grabbed the frameless window to help himself up - broke the window mechanism. Glass didnt break, but the window got pushed down and out of position and they couldnt close the door. And this happened on the main straight in front of a few thousand fans (not sure if it was tv as well)

[dodint]

Funny - thats why I went on a diet when I got the Spyder.
Actually getting in the convertible is easy if the roof is down, but out is still hard.

Oh and a few years ago at the F1 in Melbourne they had Mark Webber driver a 918 around. Took a journo for a lap and when the guy went to get out he grabbed the frameless window to help himself up - broke the window mechanism. Glass didnt break, but the window got pushed down and out of position and they couldnt close the door. And this happened on the main straight in front of a few thousand fans (not sure if it was tv as well)

A lot of Deloreans get broken when people unwittingly use the corner of the windshield to pull themselves up and out in a similar fashion.

[MR2 Fan]

This artwork is INSANE

https://www.artstation.com/khyzylsaleem


Found him by watching the latest B is for Build episode


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWIdtfvBLS0

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA_N5H4XsAA9lDd.jpg

2017 LOTUS EVORA Estimated Repair Cost: $65,192 (https://twitter.com/hoonable/status/1157370017740197888)

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=32929366&RowNumber=0&loadRecent=True

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA-dpZQWkAASvN2.jpg

[XHawkeye]

Incoming <--- Open for video (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1157390904979800064)

[MR2 Fan]

sorry, I just have to post some images from that link I posted...there's too much good stuff here. Yes, some of it is completely just for art and not really funtional/feasible, but man...some of this is really cool

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/008/395/203/large/khyzyl-saleem-f40-lm-mx-final.jpg?1512494926

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/006/420/330/large/khyzyl-saleem-astonmartinomg-finallow.jpg?1498474842

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/004/161/391/large/khyzyl-saleem-ferraridrone-finallow.jpg?1480947028

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/001/919/938/large/khyzyl-saleem-hakosukafinal.jpg?1454595428

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/634/764/large/khyzyl-saleem-fordfocusrs2015low.jpg?1443926919

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBUfeD8XoAAMsQK.jpg

[MR2 Fan]

from a Top Gear episode?

[MR2 Fan]

The Bugatti Centodieci Is a $9 Million, 1600-HP Tribute to the EB110

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/13-cd-campogalliano-web-1565969800.jpg


https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a28720663/bugatti-centodieci-eb110-tribute-monterey-car-week/?src=socialflowFBRAT&fbclid=IwAR2rl1l4F4rZrUpHJRgnrU8lvdOZhvYEJpxNQgKMT mqrHcaOJbPvp-TlE_c

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECVepaOWsAEgnjw.jpg

[XHawkeye]

Yo alucino! (https://twitter.com/Volantazo_LP/status/1162789106201563137) <--- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

https://twitter.com/SimonMoffat7/status/1162815383042236416 <--- Open for gif

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpUDOUWVYAAurWB.jpg

https://twitter.com/AKID_0831/status/762519337177534464

[SportWagon]

Saw this parked outside Kitchener MEC (https://www.mec.ca/en/stores/kitchener).

http://gtxforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3368

https://www.drymer.nl/
https://www.drymer.nl/en/models/drymer-sinner-hilgo/
https://www.drymer.nl/en/models/sinner-mango/

The one pictured was an electric/pedal hybrid.

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDwEHXnUYAYjWqk.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDulEn1WwAAvVb5.jpg

Florida man parks @Smart car in his kitchen to protect it from #HurricaneDorian: http://crdrv.co/e9iE9cY

[XHawkeye]

Cuando tus neuronas no dan para mucho...! (https://twitter.com/Volantazo_LP/status/1170712883132620800) <--- Open for video (https://twitter.com/Volantazo_LP/status/1170712883132620800)

[XHawkeye]

Timing is key. <--- Open for video (https://twitter.com/Crashingtv/status/1169342858270318594/video/1)

[Dicknose]

Cuando tus neuronas no dan para mucho...! (https://twitter.com/Volantazo_LP/status/1170712883132620800) <--- Open for video (https://twitter.com/Volantazo_LP/status/1170712883132620800)

No sense of geometry!
People who try to "rotate" their vehicle rather than crab it sidewards and then wonder why its getting tighter.
Once on my commute I was stuck in real bad traffic - like didnt move for 15 mins. In that time I watched a lady try to park. Back, forwards, turn left, turn right... at the end of the time she was still going and I still wasnt sure if she was trying to get in or out of the spot!

[George]

https://i.redd.it/aly9hjgzuul31.jpg

[dodint]

Nice rack.

[neanderthal]

Honestly, that Pilot would look better with 31/ 32 inch tall tires on 17 inch rims than those.

Low profile tires/ wheels just don't look right on trucks that are lifted, to me.

[XHawkeye]

Score of 6.5, bad dismount (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1171914787044974592) <--- Open for video

[speedpimp]

Honestly, that Pilot would look better with 31/ 32 inch tall tires on 17 inch rims than those.

Low profile tires/ wheels just don't look right on trucks that are lifted, to me.

And that lean in on the right rear doesn't look good at all.

[Dicknose]

Score of 6.5, bad dismount (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1171914787044974592) <--- Open for video

For a moment I though he was hanging on the power lines - then realised he was on the building and just gave the wires a bit of a slap.

[George]

https://i.postimg.cc/MZ5My1Fk/DSC-0170.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwUzPlXoAAvemp.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwUzPZX4AAw6r_.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwUzPfXkAAc8ub.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwUzPkXkAA8LbV.jpg

Sport cars 1/3: The #sportcars are becoming a rare thing to see in the roads of Europe. The decreasing popularity is also making them more expensive to produce. This is the main reason of the FCA-Mazda agreement for the production of the #Fiat124Spider and #MazdaMX5... #sportcars (https://twitter.com/lovecarindustry/status/1174336505613094912)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwVjk2WkAEjWy5.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwVjkyWkAE3auu.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwVjkqWsAANOAc.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwVjkxWsAMF_9q.jpg

Sportcars 2/3: ...Unfortunately, the formula has not proved to be successful, at least for #FCA. The same happens to the #AlfaRomeo4C and #DodgeChallenger. The 4C is getting old and the Challenger (available in very few markets) faces more modern rivals... (https://twitter.com/lovecarindustry/status/1174337313004052480)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwWGpAXkAEzryh.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwWGo_WkAI3pZW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEwWGo7W4AAxe1w.jpg

Sportcars 3/3: The aged and still beautiful #MaseratiGranturismo and Grancabrio show big declines as they wait to be replaced by a new gen within the next 24 months. Registrations of supercars totaled 20,900 units in Europe during the first half. That is 14% less than in H1 2018 (https://twitter.com/lovecarindustry/status/1174337915591299072)

[Dicknose]

almost 21k supercars, with 1/3 of those being 911.
And I know Porsche has about 1 billion models of 911, but damn McLaren has a lot of models and seemingly a new "special edition" each month.

Nice to see Alpine selling well. Feel it might be a "get it early" car rather than a long term big seller.

[Freude am Fahren]

McLaren's are messed up on the Coupes. 720S pictured for 570GT/600LT, 600LT for 720S. Also 12 MP4-12Cs??? They haven't made them new in years. Even if you take into account they could mean 12C or 650S, still surprising. And that image they used :lol:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFt5E6xWoAAOvVQ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFt5GDxXkAAgf-f.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFt5H6ZXkAEbFG-.jpg

M’encanten les il·lustracions d’Andrew Ritter ❤️

https://instagram.com/ritter.goods/

[XHawkeye]

If you like EVO magazine and Harry Metcalfe you'll enjoy listening to Chris Harris interviewing him on episode 12. (https://collectingcars.com/podcasts/)

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFkfqf8X0AArX_w.jpg

[speedpimp]

Just a wee bit busy.

[Dicknose]

If you like the “small car, big wheels”, check out Aussie Race Cars.
They are real cars, built to look like the full-size car, but scaled down.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQwzyZd5JLSTHG9h3yqTCXJ-zPpUO2lYckbeKKksniPZ1OAp4z2

[Phil_SS]

Heh, they are cute. I'm guessing they are a variation on the Legend racing cars here in the US. And reading the wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_car_racing), that appears to be the case.

"Phil Ward, a former touring car racer, recognized the potential for this type of economical racer, and developed the Aussie racing car, with a focus on road racing. The Aussie racing cars retain the same Yamaha motorcycle engines. The classic legends style bodyshape of old Fords and early Holdens have been gradually supplanted by imitations of modern road cars for commercial purposes."

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGcM8byWsAAymrC.jpg

Meanwhile, somewhere in Indonesia ....... (https://twitter.com/MarkHaydock5/status/1181927665537896449)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGdlv0QXkAArzAy.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHoTZt0WkAEzaYi.jpg

[XHawkeye]

Expensive track day (https://www.instagram.com/p/B3R9RQahSVX/?igshid=9z9qidciw86m)

[speedpimp]

Ouch.

[MR2 Fan]

https://twitter.com/therpf/status/1188908294716436482

[Phil_SS]

Expensive track day (https://www.instagram.com/p/B3R9RQahSVX/?igshid=9z9qidciw86m)

That's the chance you take when you go to a track day. The guy with the Zonda is 100% on the hook for the damages even though it was 100% not his fault.

[Blerpa]

Expensive track day (https://www.instagram.com/p/B3R9RQahSVX/?igshid=9z9qidciw86m)

What amazes me is the amount of people commenting that the Pagani driver is at fault.
No wonder online simulators are shitfests.

[Dicknose]

What amazes me is the amount of people commenting that the Pagani driver is at fault.
No wonder online simulators are shitfests.

Person overtaking has to do it safely...
Someone who is going slower (in a fast car) is obviously not that confident, dont dive bomb them going into a corner.

[Freude am Fahren]

Even Max wouldn't have made that move!

I have to hope the Porsche had a problem, and wasn't just being overly optimistic.

[IMOA]

Even Max wouldn't have made that move!

I have to hope the Porsche had a problem, and wasn't just being overly optimistic.

There's some pretty shit drivers in expensive cars, I suspect he was being overly optimistic.

I'm also hoping that the ones who think the Zonda is at fault never make enough money to be able to afford to take a real car to a real track and stick to online racing.

[Phil_SS]

The Zonda driver may be a little slow but it looks like he/she is taking the corner in the correct manner. He/She is out wide and then is cutting across the apex and is setting himself/herself up for the next corner. The Porsche driver looks like he/she completely miss judged his/her braking point and decided to just stick it in there, where as if he/she was on the correct line then they could have gone straight ahead and used the access road for runoff.

[dodint]

It's gone from the internet but there was an incident at VIR that was about that egregious. The Mustang just completely forgot to brake coming over the crest on the back straight and boned a Porsche. The video is gone, but here is a screen cap of the moment right before impact:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlist.com-vbulletin/1920x1080/screenshot_20190704_070023_f6579ca75b86543e63125dd fea07a2853174413c.png

Note the proximity, speed, and angle of approach. Yowza.

[Phil_SS]

You crazy! That is a perfect killshot!

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIDIUDMW4AImo8S.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIZDQKcWoAYK0TD?format=jpg&name=small

[XHawkeye]

(Ed. Note: Our man in the Las Vegas CC Field Office made his way into the SEMA show that started today and put together a massive photo display below for this special edition outside of the normal posting schedule. Enjoy the offerings, there’s likely something for everyone!)

I may not have been able to get Media credentials at SEMA, but a contractor badge accomplishes much the same thing. Following is a large media dump from my camera. I don’t have any real details on any of these, but I “edited” my photo taking to include only the sorts of cars that I deemed CC-worthy. Enjoy!

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/car-show/cc-special-show-edition-sema-2019-in-pictures/

[MR2 Fan]

be back in a few days, meanwhile I'll be glued to this site

http://oldconceptcars.com/

[XHawkeye]

VW Bug mod that adds 15 hp (https://twitter.com/RSF_Motorsport/status/1193840127417749505) <-- Open for video

[XHawkeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqRQ4qV9cHk

Ron Berry's Surf Seeker & Shorebreak

[George]

VW Bug mod that adds 15 hp (https://twitter.com/RSF_Motorsport/status/1193840127417749505) <-- Open for video

:up:

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJJPSuUWsAcMoiq.jpg

Premiere #Porsche 356 / 2-002 Sabrio (Beutler) and #Porsche 356 / 2-008 Coupe - the only one with a hatch. March 17, 1949, Geneva Motor Show

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJJPUplXsAES9jI.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKOGy_oXYAE-FYl.jpg:small

[XHawkeye]

https://www.snowmobile.com/trails/towing-snowmobiles-in-style

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKfKSDQW4AAyFHS.jpg

[XHawkeye]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELoMfbvU0AAPZIr.jpg

Thee 2020 Genesis G90

[MR2 Fan]

really unsure how I feel on the grille...I mean most luxury grilles are ugly these days so....

[Freude am Fahren]

So, (M4 concept aside) I hear all this talk and see memes and such about the new BMW grills. And yes, they do deviate from the old cars, but so do all cars these days. I've seen the X7 and new 7 series in person plenty. They are big for Kidney grills, but they are still smaller than most of their competition. Audi, Lexus, Genesis, Rolls, Bentley, Lincoln, Ford, all bigger. Maybe only Mercedes, Volvo and Land Rover can say they are the same or smaller. They just look odd compared to older BMW's. I'd say they really don't look bad in person.

[neanderthal]

So, (M4 concept aside) I hear all this talk and see memes and such about the new BMW grills. And yes, they do deviate from the old cars, but so do all cars these days. I've seen the X7 and new 7 series in person plenty. They are big for Kidney grills, but they are still smaller than most of their competition. Audi, Lexus, Genesis, Rolls, Bentley, Lincoln, Ford, all bigger. Maybe only Mercedes, Volvo and Land Rover can say they are the same or smaller. They just look odd compared to older BMW's. I'd say they really don't look bad in person.

The M4 concept's grille is just gross.

Fair point on comparison with the older BMWs. Go back to the famous 328 of the 20s and you'll see a really tall set of kidney grilles.

[XHawkeye]

Why truckers use dash cams (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1206347715396943872) <--- Open for video


Mack vs Car (https://twitter.com/TruckDriversUSA/status/1207279397620867072)

[George]

I've been meaning to buy one (or two) dashcams since I first started seeing those Russian dashcam videos online. Thought I'd get one when I got a newer car, but just like everything else, they're expensive. I'd like one pointing out the rear window also, with as many people as I see blatantly staring at their smart phones while driving these days. People don't even try to hide it anymore! When I look in my rearview mirror and see eyelids instead of eyes in stop-and-go traffic, I get scared (and angry).

[Yw-slayer]

Up-front dashcam expense is totally worth the fuss for if someone rear-ends you or does something really stupid that causes you major difficulties.

[Godson]

If you do any towing a dash cam is a must with the way these mouthbreathers drive and pull in front of you.

[Yw-slayer]

Actually, if you do any DRIVING, a dashcam is a must.

[dodint]

I've been hesitant to get a dash cam. If you're involved in an incident and feel that the video may be unflattering to you, you are not allowed to erase it. If you do, and someone sues you based on the incident and it's known you deleted the video, the judge will instruct the jury to assume whatever was on the video was a detriment to you and favorable to your opposing party. You could swear under oath that you didn't record video, but perjury has its own consequences.

It's a double edged sword. I haven't caused a multi-car accident since 1999 but who knows what may come.

[George]

I was actually thinking about dashcams this morning as I drove into work instead of taking the train. Light, Christmas-week traffic is a nice change from the usual bumper-to-bumper grind at 5 - 10 mph the whole way. Nothing happened that made me wish for one, but while sitting still, I noticed a little ledge under my rear window and thought I could put some velcro there for a rear-facing camera.

Image from google below. My interior is dark grey so I think a strip of velcro and the camera itself might be a little less noticeable than in this picture with the tan interior.

http://direct.automobiles.honda.com/images/2014/ridgeline/exterior-gallery/2014-honda-ridgeline-exterior-sliding-rear-window.jpg

And just being silly for a minute, maybe I should get my rear window tinted darker than factory tint and then when someone is tailgating me or otherwise driving like a jerk, I could slide open the rear window to reveal the camera and maybe a colorful sign saying "Smile! You're on camera!" :assclown:


If you're involved in an incident and feel that the video may be unflattering to you, you are not allowed to erase it. If you do, and someone sues you based on the incident and it's known you deleted the video, the judge will instruct the jury to assume whatever was on the video was a detriment to you and favorable to your opposing party. You could swear under oath that you didn't record video, but perjury has its own consequences.

Would this be based on someone seeing the dashcam in your car at the scene of the accident?

If so, this is surprising to me. Your video is your video to do with as you please, isn't it? It's not theirs.

Related to this, I think: Can police and others (attorneys involved in a case, for example) get court orders to confiscate videos such as from home doorbell cameras and business security cameras? It seems to me laws (in the USA) would be similar for all privately-owned cameras, but I haven't tried to learn about this yet.

Or is it more like what dodint describes above?

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, both the defendant and the police officer at the scene of the accident report seeing a dashcam in the plaintiff's vehicle, but he refuses to share the footage. I'm sure you can draw your own conclusions from this."

[dodint]

Would this be based on someone seeing the dashcam in your car at the scene of the accident?

If so, this is surprising to me. Your video is your video to do with as you please, isn't it? It's not theirs.

Related to this, I think: Can police and others (attorneys involved in a case, for example) get court orders to confiscate videos such as from home doorbell cameras and business security cameras? It seems to me laws (in the USA) would be similar for all privately-owned cameras, but I haven't tried to learn about this yet.

This is in the civil context, self-incrimination considerations in the criminal context may have different outcomes. As a party to a lawsuit you're subject to discovery in accordance with the rules of evidence for that jurisdiction. The easiest way to know to request dash cam video is to simply see the dash cam at the scene and make a note to request the video during pre-trial discovery. Another way would be to ask the opposing party during discovery, using interrogatories (written questions to an opposing party) or at a deposition. These questions in either case are asked under oath, and the perjury penalties can be harsh; in other contexts it has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines and suspension/disbarment of the advising attorney. See this case here about destroying Facebook posts/pictures that were requested in discovery: https://blog.x1discovery.com/2011/11/15/facebook-spoliation-costs-lawyer-522000-ends-his-legal-career/

In Colorado, specifically, they allow for the adverse inference I mentioned earlier:


Adverse Inference: Colorado recognizes adverse inference as a sanction for intentional destruction of evidence.
The state of mind of the party that destroys the evidence is an important consideration in determining whether
adverse inference is the appropriate sanction. In addition, in order to remedy the evidentiary imbalance created
by the loss or destruction of the evidence, an adverse inference may be appropriate even in the absence of a
showing of bad faith. Id. Special caution must be exercised to ensure that the inference is commensurate with
the information that was reasonably likely to have been contained in the destroyed evidence. Pfantz v. K-Mart
Corp., 85 P.3d 564 (Colo. App. 2003).

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 37 lists outcomes for failing to disclose:


(c) Failure to Disclose, to Supplement an Earlier Response, or to Admit.

(1) Failure to Disclose or Supplement. If a party fails to provide information or identify a witness as required by Rule 26(a) or (e), the party is not allowed to use that information or witness to supply evidence on a motion, at a hearing, or at a trial, unless the failure was substantially justified or is harmless. In addition to or instead of this sanction, the court, on motion and after giving an opportunity to be heard:

(A) may order payment of the reasonable expenses, including attorney's fees, caused by the failure;

(B) may inform the jury of the party's failure; and

(C) may impose other appropriate sanctions, including any of the orders listed in Rule 37(b)(2)(A)(i)—(vi).

There are rules that balance privacy against disclosure, but the expectation of privacy with a dash cam is pretty low and I wouldn't expect a judge to rule the dash cam is private.

As for the home camera stuff, a doorbell is generally facing outward given that is the entire purpose of them. Like the dash cam it would be unlikely they would be protected by a concern for privacy and would be discoverable in civil litigation, and the party that owned the door bell camera would have a duty to preserve that evidence.

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, generally directed or specific to your situation.

[George]

Thanks! Very interesting. I had not considered any of this yet. Pros and cons, like anything else, I guess.

Maybe it's time to research stealth-mount dashcams, like the old (and maybe still current) stealth radar detectors people would put behind their grilles instead of on the dashboard, suction-cupped to windshields, or hanging from rearview mirrors.

Mostly I just don't want my "new" car to get damaged. I didn't care about dashcams when I drove an inexpensive older car for many years, but every time I browse Reddit these days, all the dashcam gifs and videos remind me of all the crazy stuff that can and does happen in this age of ever-more distracted driving.

It does occur to me that a dashcam might be helpful in tempering one's own passions behind the wheel as well documenting the misdeeds of others.

[dodint]

If you think a dash cam fits with your lifestyle then by all means go for it. I'll probably break down and install one eventually. I just brought it up as a point of interest.

If everyone had a dash cam the courts would be less packed with personal injury claims as the parties would likely get to settlement a hell of a lot faster. ;)

[dodint]

Also, similarly, every car that competes in an SCCA road race is required to have a camera recording from inside the cockpit. If there is an incident and the steward demands your video and you fail to produce you're most likely going to be at fault. Same principle as above, just lower stakes.

[George]

I just brought it up as a point of interest.

I'm glad you did. I hadn't considered any of the legal points you brought up. Seems to me what's yours should belong to you and not be in the public domain, but I possibly have a stronger libertarian streak in me than is ideal for a prole of 21st-century Oceania.

[dodint]

I took a class dedicated specifically to discovery of social media material. It's pretty shocking the difference between what people think is private and what is discoverable. Social media posts, even ones sent to a private group or direct message, are treated the same as a postal letter. Once you send it out into the world it's not considered private anymore because you lack control over the information. Private things need to be safeguarded, and sharing it with someone else voids that expectation of privacy. It's pretty interesting stuff.

[Godson]

Useful info!


I haven't caused any accidents since the motorcycle debacle. However, I have been hit since in the truck, while backing the trailer up on a street. My hazards were on as I was blocking both lanes of traffic and I had been in the spot I was in for over 20 seconds. The offending driver tried to go around my truck and trailer, only to find out there wasn't any room. Speed limit was 35mph.

I've had more idiots pull in front of me with a few feet of my front end and brake checking me than I care to talk about. The last time this happened was leaving TTN towing the Vette home. The group of us were no less than 2 miles from the track. My buddy saw it happen and chirped over the CB asking if I was alright.

[dodint]

CB?

Did this happen in 1978?

[George]

Private things need to be safeguarded, and sharing it with someone else voids that expectation of privacy.

Agreed. But a privately-owned dashcam in a privately-owned vehicle should be able to be safeguarded by the private citizen who owns it. It should be allowed to be used by the private owner OR NOT at his sole discretion. If he posts the accident on r/IdiotsInCars, it's now in the public domain. I have no problem with that. But if he quietly pockets the dashcam at the scene and never mentions having it, he should not be compelled to share its contents.

Not disputing the facts as you've presented them nor drag this out into an all-day conversation; just expressing my opinion during a slow day at work.

And I did not miss the sentence below. I'm glad you mentioned that or I'd be much more worked up about this thing I've never even considered before this morning.


This is in the civil context, self-incrimination considerations in the criminal context may have different outcomes.

I wonder if this was a concern in the days of film photography. Probably so. Everything has been done before. Probably some artist painting scenes of life in his medieval village had his canvas confiscated to show something allegedly stolen from a store was there on display in a window on the morning the artist was witnessed painting it.

Come to think of it, that reminds me of a Columbo episode...

[dodint]

Agreed. But a privately-owned dashcam in a privately-owned vehicle should be able to be safeguarded by the private citizen who owns it. It should be allowed to be used by the private owner OR NOT at his sole discretion. If he posts the accident on r/IdiotsInCars, it's now in the public domain. I have no problem with that. But if he quietly pockets the dashcam at the scene and never mentions having it, he should not be compelled to share its contents.



I agree with you that privacy is a primary concern. And I alluded earlier that there is a check in place to ensure that the probative value of the evidence would have to substantially outweigh the harm or embarrassment done to the owner of the image. It's FRE Rule 403 which is test that all evidence is subject to when trying to be introduced. Harm, embarrassment, and harassment are all valid reasons to exclude evidence if its value is not great enough to outweigh your concerns.

As for simply pocketing the dash cam and walking away, you're not acting in good faith. The civil justice system is an adversarial system where the two parties need to state their case by using evidence to support the facts they tell the jury. You've generated a recording of the incident in the hopes of using it to defend yourself if you were wronged; to then hide that same recording by lying about its existence is bad faith. I'm not saying that you should run up to the police officer or opposing counsel and jump up and down until they take it off your hands*, but if asked for it you have a duty to surrender that item because it's material evidence in the court action that you are a party to. To be as broad as possible, it's one more bit of autonomy you surrender to enjoy living in a society where we have a peaceful means for dispute resolution.

*There are other considerations about candor to a tribunal, but that area is much more grey than this discovery issue we're talking about.



Not disputing the facts as you've presented them nor drag this out into an all-day conversation; just expressing my opinion during a slow day at work.


I, too, am trying to murder the last of this work day before the holiday and enjoy the discourse. Many people don't know there is a difference between civil and criminal procedure, it's fun to talk about in 'real terms' rather than the stuff out of the book.

[Godson]

CB?

Did this happen in 1978?

They work really well for caravanning....

[dodint]

I've always used FRS rather than CB. Handheld and you don't have to wire it into the vehicle.

[George]

It's a Jeep thing. You wouldn't understand. :p

(Am I remembering that slogan that Jeep used for a while correctly? Hope so.)

At least I assume we're talking about his Jeep. I see lots of off-road rigs around here with all kinds of aftermarket antennas on them. I figure guys talk on CBs while on the trails together.

Recently while cleaning up some stuff in the garage, I came upon my late father-in-law's car safety kit from years decades ago. My wife used to carry the kit with her, but for the last several years it has been on a shelf in the garage. It has some of those red triangles to put behind a broken-down car and a first-aid kit and a few other things, including a hand-held CB radio with a cigarette lighter plug. My son and I hooked it up in my car once while on the interstate but I think the antenna is too short to be of much use. We heard just bits of conversations on Channel 19 between lots of static and I got the impression I needed a longer antenna. Heck, I don't even know if truckers use Channel 19 anymore. They did when I was a kid and my father was on the road selling custom vans to car dealers in the southeast in the late 1970s.

For about five minutes, I had an idea to built a home CB station with an antenna on the roof of the house like I remember people having when I was a kid, but like so many of my genius ridiculous ideas, it was quickly forgotten.

[dodint]

He's talking about towing his track car with his F-150, with some other buddies convoying with him.

I bought a CB to install in the Land Rover but never opened it. Sold it for peanuts on Craigslist. I wanted one because my Dad had one in his Datsun 240SX when I was a kid. Later in life I worked at Radio Shack and continued to want one, but never got around to it and now they're falling out of use.

[George]

You guys have more cars than I can keep up with.

[dodint]

He should probably sell the Jeep.

[SkylineObsession]

We've used dashcams for years now, and i even bought one for Dad. Which turned out to be a good thing, as he got hit on the right front wheel side of the car (almost a t-bone or a head on, give or take a few seconds either way) by a dropkick speeding in a 50km/h zone. Loser was doing 60-70km/h around a slightly curvy street (of this sort of shape --> ````\,,,,,,, ), locked his brakes and ran right into Dad.

Dipshit denied everything (even with a couple of witnesses, including the guy who was following him because he got cut off a few streets earlier - which was why the dunce was speeding) but dashcam footage showed otherwise. He got sentenced etc and ordered to pay Dad compensation, but he claimed hardship so only got ordered to pay at something like $5 a week. Which is BS, if people can't afford to pay compensation in times like this, their cars and possessions should be confiscated and sold in order to get the money. Then people would take it more seriously...

And another time i supplied dashcam footage to the Police so they could use it in court, after i captured part of a reckless road journey by some young guys who eventually crashed the car ten mins or so later. They came speeding past me on the motorway, undercutting everyone.

Other than that, all we have is just footage of bad drivers. Red light runners/late orange light runners, stop sign non stoppers, indication fails/lack of indication, speeding, bad/dangerous driving, crossing centreline/corner cutting, merging fails/lane change fails, tailgating, obstacles on the road, weather events and so on.

Have also had two or three of my clips (on the page below) on national TV right after the 6pm news on a popular channel, as a part of a red light running article they were doing on a current affairs show.

Have gigabytes of footage of them, to go on my page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaByIeEtK_xDEgrhZC28kfg

And you do get what you pay for. The cheaper dash cams are cheap for a reason. Low quality recording (despite saying they are full HD etc), dodgy/wobbly mounts, system errors etc - we've had countless problems with cheap ones. :(
If you can afford it, get a Full HD (or 2k/4k) dashcam with 60fps recording, as with most 30fps ones you can barely read any number plates while moving/when cars are passing you etc.

[Leon]

I own/drive too many cars then buy and sell them way too often to invest in a dash cam :)

That said, I captured this guy on my rally car's go-pro, when I was on the way home from an event.

Note: NZ drives on the left side of the road ... well, NZ, other than this guy anyway.

Yup, that's him on the wrong side of the road for no reason. Also note, at least one of his tyres was down to the belts, as there were sparks coming off one tyre.

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[SkylineObsession]

Holey crap. Was he corner cutting, or just driving on that side for a while? Maybe it could have been stolen too? Can't understand why it'd be sparking away otherwise.

Some dashcams use suction cups, which can easily and quickly be transferred to another vehicle. ;) We've got five road legal vehicles and a bike, but our two main use vehicles have dash cams. All of them plug into the cigarette lighter slot.

We also had one which came with a 720p rear camera, you just have to make sure the image it records isn't reversed/flipped, as then the footage makes no sense. As we found out.

[Leon]

Massive corner cutting. I've got a series of screen captures of him driving on the wrong side around multiple corners and several straights. Who knows what was going through his head, but his driving was full douchebag enough on the motorway that I had the camera on and ready to go when he exited the highway onto the B road, and captured lots of driving fail until he overtook a car in front and vanished. Funny thing was, he thought he was driving fast, and really wasn't...

[SkylineObsession]

Wow. :( Did you report it to the popo?

And i don't get the corner cutting thing, i find there are way more g-forces in effect when sticking between the lines.

[Leon]

Nope, didn't bother reporting it, because most people I've discussed such things with, have reported zero police motivation to do anything unless there has been an accident.
Regardless of the driving offence caught on camera, *unless* the media has jumped on it, and has drummed up hysteria.