NFL 2016

[Kchrpm]

FOOTBALL!

How did you like your draft? Apparently the best thing the Bengals did was piss off the Steelers fans by getting the players they wanted.

This was probably my favorite set of moments from the draft: http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Mayock_Helps_Makes_Boehringers_Dream_Come_True/7763751b-09b9-4e4c-9c0c-ed9069319708

[Godson]

Chiefs have signed a known domestic abuser. Apparently December 1, 2012 was so 3 years ago.

[Freude am Fahren]

But let's all talk about the guy that smoked pot in college? :rolleyes:

[Random]

Bills' punter Colton Schmidt (UCDavis alum :D) was given a one-year contract extension in January. :up: Various analysts seem pretty happy with that move--top 10 punter for minimum salary.

[TheBenior]

Overall, I'm satisfied with the Bears' offseason, including the draft. I think Floyd is a bit of a gamble at OLB due to being a lanky 6'4", 244 lbs. Hopefully he can add 10-15 lbs and keep his speed. If he can't he'll end up being a situational/3rd down rusher.

Given Zach Miller's injury history, and getting rid of Bennett, they could use another TE. They also need to start looking for Cutler's replacement given his age (33).

[21Kid]

So, besides his age, you'd keep him? :finger:


Packers got a new punter/specialist... I wonder what they will do with Masthay? Or how they will use Mortell...

I like this guy so far.
Multi-year All-B1G Punter, including 2014 Punter of the Year? CHECK.
2015 Holder of the Year? CHECK.
Peter Mortell ‎@PMortell37
Tonight, it has been confirmed that no one has held their kicker's balls better than me. Blessed beyond belief. http://es.pn/1RHAQBz
8:18 PM - 10 Dec 2015
Can defend stadium from drone attack via precision punting skills? CHECK.
Mortell, a Green Bay native, doesn’t care where he ends up, but the Packers would be a dream come true.Seems like they're going to throw down (http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/29807/green-bay-native-peter-mortell-ready-to-clock-in-as-packers-punter). :rawk:
GREEN BAY, Wis. –
Peter Mortell's grandfather operated the game clock at Lambeau Field for more than 30 years. His father took over in 2000 and still has the job.

The Packers are looking for competition for veteran punter Tim Masthay and hope Mortell can provide it. He set a Minnesota record with a 44.0-yard-per-punt career average. Mortell further refined his skills this offseason by working out with former NFL punter Darren Bennett in San Diego.

[novicius]

:up: :up: (Inasmuch that we're talking about punters. :lol: )

[21Kid]

I just think it's a feel good story OK!?!

[dodint]

lol:

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/759017004128804865


Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Asked whether Jimmy Garoppolo could remain starter upon Tom Brady’s return from suspension, an annoyed Bill Belichick said, "Jesus Christ."

[dodint]

You had ONE JOB field maintenance crew at Canton. Honestly.

I think the Packers/Colts should have to make up game so their players have the same opportunity to have career ending injuries as everyone else. It's an unfair competitive advantage.

[Kchrpm]

FANTASY FOOTBALL UPDATE:
This year's league has 8 competitors signed up, and the live online draft will be this Saturday at noon. We could sneak in another 2 or 4 interested people, let me know and I'll unlock the league and post a link.

[dodint]

This is the only FFL I'm doing this year so come at me, bros.

[Freude am Fahren]

Damn, the draft was today? Whoops.

[Jason]

Bills played their first preseason game last night...

We were already down 2 out of our top 4 OLBs, now we're down 3 out of 4 :|

Other than that, I really like our rookie class, they all showed flashes of season ready production. I just hope no more of them get hurt (lost the top two picks, one for the season, and one for 6-8 games) this year.

Also, we locked in Tyrod Taylor... kinda. The extension allows the team an out after this year, and then I think an out after year three, and another after 5? And for Tyrod, there's all sorts of incentives built into it. Basically a good contract for both sides, considering he's only started 14 games. But I'm still nervous about investing in any QB after such short successes, after the mess with Fitzpatrick.

I have not a clue what to expect this season... on paper we got worse in some areas, and better in others. Plus side is, this is the first time in about 4 years that the defense is playing in the same system two years in a row.

[Jason]

Bills' punter Colton Schmidt (UCDavis alum :D) was given a one-year contract extension in January. :up: Various analysts seem pretty happy with that move--top 10 punter for minimum salary.

He's got a hell of a leg on him. Hope the Bills keep him around long term.

[21Kid]

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/r5BZH46EFASnWNWifjKlKPzejHg=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6997701/russelwilsonlol.0.gif

[Jason]

Runs backwards about 17 yards from scrimmage :lol:

[GB]

Get well soon, Teddy. You seem like one of the "good guys".

[novicius]

Yep that news sucks -- and I fucking hate the Vikings. :(

[dodint]

Do you hate other things--like water, vanilla yogurt, or a mildly temperate overcast day?

[Kchrpm]

Are you me?
FTFY

[dodint]

I hate you.

[novicius]

:lol:

[dodint]

Vikings are in full panic mode; trade a first and a fourth to the Eagles for Sam Bradford.

[novicius]

:twisted: :up:

[dodint]

:lol:

[Freude am Fahren]

Could get worse, 4th could turn into 3rd or 2nd round pick depending on Bradford's performance this year. Though I don't think they have to worry about that :lol:

[GB]

Would anyone like to join a just-for-fun (no $$), family friendly fantasy football league?

Auto draft set for tomorrow.

http://www.foxsports.com/fantasy/football/commissioner/Registration/Private.aspx?league=169128&password=awful2016

[Godson]

Well we look like complete shit on the slant. And pretty much everywhere.

[Rikadyn]

Well we look like complete shit on the slant. And pretty much everywhere.

Heh...:P

[Jason]

I'd love to look like complete shit and still win. :|

[dodint]

Well, you're halfway there. Watched the BUF game today and they really should let Rex go. Team is undisciplined and with the talent on offense you'd think they'd be able to complete a drive more than once a game.

[Godson]

Dude, the first half was deplorable. I was yelling at the tv in frustration and i am on xanax.

[Freude am Fahren]

:lol:

[Freude am Fahren]

http://gtxforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1936&d=1473663507

1936

[TheBenior]

I watched the first 3 quarters of Bears v Texans.

I expected the Bears to be mediocre this year, and they did not disappoint.

[novicius]

A rusty Packers offense made the Jags look like a playoff-bound team. At least our utterly gassed D was able to hold 'em down for the win. #gopackgo

[drew]

Little known secret: Jags are shit.

[JSGeneral]

https://vine.co/v/5JI7jEd1YTt

[21Kid]

Who gets credit if someone carries the ball carrier into the end zone?

[Kchrpm]

You are not allowed to carry another player.

[dodint]

You're also not allowed to throw another player.

Back in the 20's (ish) a team found out that if you sew straps onto the running back and throw him over the line you're guaranteed three yards. They had to outlaw it.

[21Kid]

Really? That's awesome! :lol:


You learn something new every day :cool:

[Godson]

Teammate is considered the field. Ergo, if a ball carrier lands on a teammate, but didn't physically touch planet earth, ball carrier is ruled down.

[21Kid]

But, what if they aren't "down", like that guy, who was standing?




Then every goal line jump over the pile wouldn't be down at the 1 yard line if they touched anyone.

[novicius]

Power rankings are all over the place but the biggest :lol: goes to ESPN.com for putting the Packers #1.

[dodint]

https://twitter.com/dkurtenbach/status/775562761543688193

:lol: :lol: :lol: at Kevin Harlan's call :lol:

[TheBenior]

The Saints lead the league in dead money, at $40 million, or 25% of the salary cap (http://www.espn.com/blog/new-orleans-saints/post/_/id/23346/add-c-j-spiller-to-costly-list-of-saints-spending-failures).

Yep, they're boned for the next few years.

[novicius]

Oh man, what a shitshow. :smh:

Where to begin?? Probably front-and-center with #12 -- Rodgers continues his indecisive play from last season. Refuses to throw short, and this is with another good performance by his O-line! Lacy may have lost weight but he looks as big and slow as last season as well.

Cornerbacks? Canton is working on Bradford's bust RIGHT NOW based on how good they made him look. The Panthers are gonna rip him him open and huddle inside him for warmth next weekend but for this week he's a Vikings God.

The Packers are a team in need of some serious quarterback play. A-A-Ron needs to get his head screwed on straight and quick! #gopackgo

[dodint]

That game ended when they walked away from 3pts and went for it on 4th and 1 from, what, the fucking 10?

McCarthy was/is/always will be a chump.

[novicius]

Yes he should have taken the points. Hopefully he learns from that.

More importantly, hopefully A-A-Ron loses the happy feet soon -- but we've been waiting for that to happen since the mid-point of last season. :smh:

[Godson]

I'll trade ya. We played like complete shit. 3 fucking turnovers.

[21Kid]

Packers fumbled 4 times... we luckily got 3 of them back though.


It was a complete shit-show. :smh:

[dodint]

The rare double-turnover-on-one-down is one of my favorite plays in football. Just not when the Packers benefit.

[Jason]

It's cute watching Steelers and Packers fans complain about their teams.

Edit: Misread Steelers fan. Point stands.

[neanderthal]

I applaud you Jason. And any Lions fans.

Real f'n fans through thick and thin.

Not the Faders fans though. They just annoy me. And their team sucks.

[Jason]

Being a spoiled Lakers fan helps offset things :lol:

[KillerB]

All aboard the Wentz hypetrain!

[Random]

NDSU! Favored to win the B1G West! :D

[dodint]

Wentz is decent, receivers make stone hand drops though. Gonna end bad.

[Rikadyn]

NDSU! Favored to win the B1G West! :D

They would need to get around Western Michigan first

[Godson]

Fuck me and my fantasy team

[dodint]

Did you go full homer?

[Godson]

No. I only have kelce, which should be a pretty safe bet. I somehow ended up with 2 bears players.

Fuck me.

[dodint]

The waterboy and the mascot, Staley Da Bear?

[dodint]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/tifosi77/FB_IMG_1474343696215.jpg

[Godson]

Ace!!!

[GB]

http://prod.images.jaguars.clubs.nflcdn.com/image-web/NFL/CDA/data/deployed/prod/JAGUARS/assets/images/imported/JAX/photos/clubimages/2016/09-September/temp1RW_9023--nfl_mezz_1280_1024.jpg?width=960&height=720

[21Kid]

:? Nike commercial?

[GB]

No, just @AR15 wondering why the team can't get on track.

[Rikadyn]

I'm tired of this abusive relationship...

[novicius]

A-Rodg & Eddy showed up to work yesterday, which was nice. :cool: :up: #gopackgo

[novicius]

It's cute watching Steelers and Packers fans complain about their teams.

Edit: Misread Steelers fan. Point stands.
I'm looking forward to Jason's comments after his team just straight skullfucked the Cardinals. ;)

[TheBenior]

Granted I haven't watched many teams besides the Bears this season, but I'm pretty sure that the Bears are the worst team in the league. They're certainly the worst when measured by net points at minus 38.

[Jason]

I'm looking forward to Jason's comments after his team just straight skullfucked the Cardinals. ;)

The Bills are still a shit show. The Cardinals just decided to out shit-show them this week.

Tyrod Taylor is not a NFL QB, and teams have figured that out. Thankfully, the Cards can't stop the run, and also decided to throw the ball at our DBs instead of their WRs.

[Godson]

I'm tired of this abusive relationship...

Your team is like the ultimate tease.

[KillerB]

Wentz is decent, receivers make stone hand drops though. Gonna end bad.

ORLY?

[dodint]

That wasn't about the weekend specifically. Eagles gonna Eagle over the course of the season. Though if you want to talk about stone hands on Sunday Pitt should've left Markus Wheaton off the team bus.

Congrats to Wentz for having the best start by a rookie since...Marcus Mariota.

Also, how bad was Chip Kelly, right?

[Rikadyn]

Your team is like the ultimate tease.

win or lose, someone is going on IR.

[novicius]

A-A-Ron is back to not studying the playbook. :smh: Some of those throws, I swear he's taking off reps in practice. The rest of three team? Playing good enough to win. Plenty of articles are going to be written this week about what's happening to Aaron Rodgers. #shrug #gopackgo

OTOH, the Cowboys look for real. Dak Prescott made some beautiful throws and more than enough quick decisions. Romo has just been Bledsoe'd. :lol:

Dec. 1st, mark it on your calendars Vikings fans... ;)

[dodint]

I'm way ahead of the curve when it comes to saying A.Rodgers is overrated, I feel like the field is coming back to me. ;)

[dodint]

I found this article interesting: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/nfl-ratings-plunge-could-spell-doom-for-traditional-tv/2016/10/14/a7a23dc2-915f-11e6-9c85-ac42097b8cc0_story.html

It dissects some of the excuses for the NFL ratings decline and puts them in perspective compared to past declines on election years, etc. The short of it is that the target demo just doesn't watch TV as much as the boomers did and this problem is only going to get worse as both generations age.

Found this interesting:


Long-term slides in ratings pose a financial minefield for the big TV networks, which have agreed to pay the league tens of billions of dollars to air NFL games through 2022.

The networks do not make enough ad revenue to fully cover those arrangements, according to an industry estimate provided by Magna. But they believe the promotional halo of having NFL games leading viewers into other programming makes the deals worth it. Falling viewership, however, could drive down ad revenue, making the networks’ calculations harder to defend, Hughes said.

It's stunning that the networks are actually using the NFL as a loss leader.

What I see happening, much like when the post office raises postage when people buy less postage, is the networks will keep adding more and more ads to the game until it becomes entirely unwatchable. I'm really curious to see which networks will be airing games in 2023. I wouldn't be shocked if NBC left entirely since primetime games are taking the biggest hit, and their broadcast already feels the most desperate of all of them (squeezing 30 second commercials into 30 second on-field timeouts).

[21Kid]

I think Rodgers started believing the hype that people were talking about him. He got cocky and it's coming back to haunt him.

[dodint]

RELAX

[21Kid]

:lol:

[novicius]

Rodgers WAS statistically great. Nothing overrated about those seasons, the math is sound.

The question is: is Rodgers done? Is his tank empty? Should he go back to eating meat? Should he dump Olivia and go back to harvesting panties? Or can he return to greatness?

[21Kid]

Was it a coincidence that Favre was in attendance last night?

[Godson]

Lol.


#GoChiefs

[Jason]

I have no idea what to think about the Bills.

Two close losses at the beginning of the season, which were both a result of offensive lapses imo (defense wasn't great against the Jets, but the defense was also exhausted because we couldn't sustain drives)... then we beat up on 4 shitty teams... hopefully we beat Miami (as we should), and go into the rematch with the Brady-led Pats at 5-2. That'll be the real barometer.

[dodint]

... hopefully we beat Miami (as we should)...

"You'd think." -Steeler Nation

[Jason]

Yeah, well.... yeah :|

[Godson]

Lol. It's gotta be damned hard to be a steelers fan right now.

[dodint]

There are worse things in life.

[Godson]

True, you guys just seem to be going through a roller coaster of a season so far.

[dodint]

That's just something I have to say so I don't have to hear a certain Cincy fan complain that I don't know how good I have it.

[21Kid]

Packers nab RB Knile Davis from Chiefs in trade (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000723404/article/packers-nab-rb-knile-davis-from-chiefs-in-trade)

This guy doesn't sound very impressive. :| Any insight Tyler?

[dodint]

I had him as a fantasy player a while ago briefly. Even the ineptitude of Alex Smith hasn't helped him rise to the top so who knows what will happen in GB.

[Jason]

Is Feast Mode not working out in GB?

[Godson]

Like, Davis is ok.

Competent back that usually protected the ball decently.

However, I wouldn't expect anything special from him. We are very deep when it comes to RB.

[novicius]

Is Feast Mode not working out in GB?
You bastard. :lol: I'm stealing that.

He's gimpy right now with ankle issues.

[21Kid]

He's gimpy right now with ankle issues.

Probably due to Feast mode...

[dodint]

https://theringer.com/nfl-tv-ratings-crisis-81fd9dbd53a#.yt7g5olu8


Sunday night’s Colts-Texans game drew just 12.9 million viewers, a 38 percent drop from last year’s Week 6 Sunday night contest between the Patriots and Colts and a low enough mark to make it the least-watched Sunday Night Football game since 2011. But this isn’t a one-off concern; it’s becoming commonplace. Some of the dips are understandable and may have even been unavoidable: On September 26, for example, the Falcons-Saints Monday Night Football matchup aired opposite the first presidential debate and drew just 8 million people. October 10’s Bucs-Panthers game, however, wasn’t up against any debate, yet it was the worst-ever Week 5 Monday-night game airing on ESPN.


Mulvihill said that in this changing world, he’s found himself wondering what the postelection ratings will look like. “The election is over after Week 9,” he said. “We have a gigantic game on Week 10, Dallas-Pittsburgh. Are we going to see the type of number for Dallas-Pittsburgh that we would have expected if this was a normal year?”
He’s not so sure: “I don’t know that we will. I think we’ll see some normalization, I think we will see things get back to what we expect, but does it all snap back to what we consider normal in a week? Is it going to be ‘People vote on a Tuesday then watch football on a Sunday’? I don’t know if it’s that much of a straight line.”
For the first time in a long time, the NFL is nervously waiting to find out.

It's Happening!

[Phil_SS]

The Dallas-Pittsburgh will draw very well. America's Team vs Steelers Nation.

That being said. I think Goodell and his no fun league have really killed the excitement of the league. Nobody gives a fuck if Antonio Brown is dancing after a TD or that Martavis Bryant smokes pot. I could care less. If they are doing crimes against other people then yes they shouldn't be playing but otherwise, stop fucking with my fun.

And I really don't give a shit how much air is/was in the footballs Tom Brady was throwing.

And I'm still not going back to cable no matter what they do.

[dodint]

If that game has no Ben or Romo it might take a hit.

[dodint]

3-3 at halftime?

Matt Barkley at QB?

The Bears on national TV again?

I just can't figure out why the NFLs ratings are trash. Must be the election. http://www.fifthavenueforum.com/forum/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

[dodint]

6-3, actually.

It took the 19 real time minutes to play from the two minute warning to halftime.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu NFL.

[21Kid]

I stopped watching at half-time, and came back in the 4th. The Packers definitely turned it around. :up:

[novicius]

Only caught the end of that game -- even tho' they won, they didn't look happy. :lol:

Bring on Atlanta! #gopackgo

EDIT: Damn, I didn't lean until now that Clay Matthews broke Bears QB Hoyer's arm. :(

[Jason]

Ahhh, the real Bills are back. :up:

[dodint]

SNF.

Woof.

[Kchrpm]

Their solution to this will be to make even more rules to hurt defenses.

[dodint]

Oh no. Shit. :lol:

[Godson]

"How about those Chiefs"

[novicius]

Green Bay @ Atlanta :up:

Good game, exciting, fun to watch the new guys step up -- they almost won it, too. Ah well. :) #gopackgo

[Jason]

Dildo.

[21Kid]

Bills

[Freude am Fahren]

What is this, the thesaurus thread?

[Godson]

:lol:

Chiefs went from looking strong to...injured. I hate playing the colts

[21Kid]

Aaron Rodgers calls out teammates for lack of energy (http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers-colts-angry-energy-110716).

I'm surprised you don't see more of this (https://cdn-e1.streamable.com/video/mp4-mobile/6fd0.mp4?token=1479742627_9d2320573b49fba2b823fd40 2f5e6cda47fe8017). It happens in basketball all the time.
New Orleans has the ball 13 yards out from a touchdown. There are seven seconds left in the first half, and the Saints have one timeout remaining. They have time for one shot at a touchdown before they have to kick a field goal.

So what do the 49ers do? They intentionally hold all of the Saints receivers, Brees has to spike the ball and six seconds run of the clock, preventing the Saints from taking a shot at a touchdown because a penalty call does not put time back on the clock.

[Godson]

Shit like that is why viewership is down. You are literally taking away from the game.

Also, the horse collar takedown on Travis kelce which was ignored, was complete and utter bullshit reffing.

I support his actions and attitude following the incident.

#ChiefsKingdom

[novicius]

A-A-Ron is right about his teammates -- don't know if calling them out in the media is a way to light that fire tho'. :lol: #gopackgo

[21Kid]

Shit like that is why viewership is down. Like what?

[dodint]

Like what?

You know. That thing everyone is talking about the next morning. ;)

[Godson]

Like what?

What SF did to NO

Playing the rules to prevent a score by holding the entire offense and forcing a run off of the clock.

It takes away offensive position of the saints, who ultimately were penalized from the opposing team breaking the rules.

[Jason]

My name is Jason, and I hate my team, and I hate the NFL.

[21Kid]

What SF did to NO

Playing the rules to prevent a score by holding the entire offense and forcing a run off of the clock.

It takes away offensive position of the saints, who ultimately were penalized from the opposing team breaking the rules.They do it in Basketball and Baseball too. Intentional fouling and Intentional Base on Balls.
It's a strategic play. They're taking a penalty for it. I don't see the issue.

[Kchrpm]

Intentional fouling is so damn annoying. The NBA has been trying to figure out if there's a way to minimize it, because, as you said, the rules as they exist promote it.

But the NFL is wondering why their ratings are going down. The NBA and MLB dream of the kind of ratings that the NFL has been getting, so saying that the other leagues do it already is not really a justification.

[21Kid]

So, if they stopped allowing intentional fouling... ratings would go up? :erm:

[Kchrpm]

I don't think it's that simple, no. It's part of a larger problem. What the biggest factors are, I don't know. Some are saying that the rookie pay limits have made young players more affordable, and therefore veterans are being replaced more often with young players who aren't as good but are far cheaper. That is leading to sloppier play, which is leading to a sloppier product, etc.

But is that really why people aren't watching as much? I don't know.

[21Kid]

That's what Tyler was saying... and what I was responding to.

[Kchrpm]

I know, I'm just saying that I don't know if I agree with him or not. I don't know what it is. Like, Belicheck and the Patriots are praised for making smart moves like that. And the affect it has on an NFL game is much smaller than in NBA games, where intentional fouls happen en masse and make 1 minute of game time take 5-10 minutes of incredibly boring real time.

[Godson]

They do it in Basketball and Baseball too. Intentional fouling and Intentional Base on Balls.
It's a strategic play. They're taking a penalty for it. I don't see the issue.

And that is something I hated about basketball. It drags out the time and doesn't allow the teams to actually play the game.

An intentional walk isn't a penalty. It's a calculated risk.

In water polo there is a rule in which you don't take away the advantage from the team with the ball for the sake of a foul. For example, if I have a fast break and am driving to the goal for a shot and one of my teammates is fouled on our defensive side of the pool, there is no foul. Because the ball would then need to be placed to the spot of the foul, taking away the advantage I had rightfully earned.

[21Kid]

True. It does drag out in Basketball. And rarely has any actual effect on the outcome.

All sports should try to be like water polo. :lol: Isn't that rule the same with basketball though? You have to foul the person with the ball?

It's not like it happens in football very often, if ever. I can't remember the last time I saw an intentional foul. I don't think that is the cause of their declining viewership.

Personally, I think it's just because they are making is so complicated to watch, and there are so many different things to watch now. Everyone used to watch football on Sundays, because there was nothing else on, before the advent of 200+ cable channels.

And with games being played on specific channels that you don't have access to, it makes it difficult to stay interested.
I ran into that this last weekend with the Packers game. It was CBS's fault though, not the NFLs. They broadcase on a VHF channel here. And their online subscription "CBS All-Access" doesn't include NFL games. So, without a cable subscription or Season Pass, I have no way of watching it.

Same thing with Thursday night games. I'm not buying a cable subscription to watch the NFL Network. Otherwise it's randomly on CBS or NBC, if you have the time patience to figure it out (https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/2016-'Thursday-Night-Football'-Broadcast-Schedule-Announced.aspx).

Multiply that times multiple games and years, and peoples interest in something they rarely are able to watch will wane. They will find something else to watch or do. Just like I did on Sunday.

[Godson]

Eric-muthafuckin-berry

[Rikadyn]

I give up.

[balki]

In water polo there is a rule in which you don't take away the advantage from the team with the ball for the sake of a foul. For example, if I have a fast break and am driving to the goal for a shot and one of my teammates is fouled on our defensive side of the pool, there is no foul. Because the ball would then need to be placed to the spot of the foul, taking away the advantage I had rightfully earned.
Hockey goes one step further: penalty is committed, the play does not stop until the infracting team gains control of the puck. Then the play is stopped and the penalty called (unless a goal is scored, then it's just a goal and the penalty is washed out)
Basketball should be able to implement something like that (and offer less time-outs, but that would be like NASCAR not having a caution for a harmless spin [cuts out on your commercial / ad revenue])

so .... how about them Cowboys

[Freude am Fahren]

The only way to fix it in basketball would be to say any foul in the last minute or two, the fouled team retains possession after free throws. But that kinds sucks for unintentional fouls. BTW, that is the rule if you foul away from the ball right now, I think.

[novicius]

Great Odin's Ravens, the Packers made the Titans look like Super Bowl contenders today!! :lol:

Not entirely Aaron's fault -- but he still had plenty of throws that were poor. Needs to get on the same page as his young receivers. At least the Vikings lost. #gopackgo

[21Kid]

Glad I couldn't watch that one. :smh:

[Godson]

And Alshon Jeffries is now suspended.

Make that player number 5 for my injured or idiot list for my fantasy team.

[novicius]

PEDs?

Kid, yeah that game was a shit-show. Obviously good for the Titans whose 4 wins this year are over the Lions, Dolphins, Browns and Jags. :lol:

[21Kid]

What do you mean the Lions? They're going to win the North this year!

2036
:lol: @ NFC(N)

[novicius]

Logjammin'! :D

Seriously the Packers are STILL only one good weekend away from being in first place in the NFC North. :lol: #garbagefire #gopackgo

[dodint]

If the Browns win out the last 6 games, and go 6-10, they can still win the AFC-N.

[21Kid]

:lol:

[Godson]

Novi, yeah. :/

[Jason]

I really hate being in the AFC East. Every year there's like 4 other divisions where .500 ball keeps you in the hunt. In the AFC East? You're out of the hunt within 6 weeks if you play .500 ball.

Fucking Patriots.

[drew]

Nothing to add, except "fuck the Patriots."

[21Kid]

Got to give them credit for running such a good program for so long though.

[novicius]

Absolutely. Belichick's "system" is one-part cult of personality (The Hoodie) and one-part genderfluid identity :lol: -- are they an air-assault team? Yet they power rush with the best of 'em. West Coast offense? They can do it all.

It only works because The Hoodie is the best in the business at coaching-up players and coaches beneath him. His assistant coaches have been poached consistently over the past decade yet the Patriots still win. He *sees* football like a lot of gurus have in the past but what's most notable is that he's able to communicate what he sees.

Now Tom Brady wants to play for at least five more years, maybe 6-7. I highly doubt Belichick is gonna stay in the game longer than that, ergo we'll never really know (unless Brady leaves sooner due to injury or poor play) if it was the Coach or the QB... ;) #jk

[novicius]

...aaand the Packers' are pretty much out of the playoffs now. Ah well, let's hope they put up a better fight against the Lions, Vikings and Bears to end the season. #ohmy #gopackgo

[21Kid]

Ben Roethlisberger ties a Browns QB for most wins at Browns' stadium (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ben-roethlisberger-ties-a-browns-qb-for-most-wins-at-browns-stadium/)




:lol:

[novicius]

Le ouch! :lol:

[Jason]

I was going to laugh, but I have a feeling Brady has more wins at Ralph Wilson Stadium than most Bills QBs :(

[drew]

Fuck Tom Brady.

[Godson]

Jesus Christ that was a tough game.

#ChiefsKingdom

[novicius]

So you're saying there's a chance...?? :lol: #gopackgo

[21Kid]

Yeah. :rolleyes: They just need to go full-steam all the time on offense, because the defense can't stop... well, anyone.

[novicius]

Going into Dallas for an NFC Championship game and knocking off the super-rookies just *might* make us forget about the debacle in Seattle. :smh: :lol: #unicorns

[dodint]

But but but . . . Clay Matthews!

[Kchrpm]

He's the best!

[novicius]

He's 30 -- time catches up to even the juiced guys. ;)

[Kchrpm]

I didn't find any good pictures of OJ Simpson with a glass of orange juice, so just pretend I did.

[novicius]

:up:

[21Kid]

You're slacking Keith... :smh:

[balki]

2076

[Kchrpm]

Yeah, I found that commercial, but they were too crappy. The photoshops of him later in life didn't have the same feel.

[21Kid]

Something > nothing

[novicius]

Lions have the Saints, Bears, Giants, Cowboys & Packers left to play this season. :twisted:

Now the Vikings have a easier schedule ahead of them but by no means a slam-dunk: Cowboys, Jaguars, Colts, Packers, Bears.

It's not over, kids! :lol: :up: #gopackgo

[dodint]

He's 30 -- time catches up to even the juiced guys. ;)

Just not James Harrison. Deebo is 38 and still getting sacks.

[novicius]

Matthews does have something like 95-98% active-on-gameday rate so it's not like he's been delicate for his career.

But he's definitely been overhyped (by us Packer fans -- we just luvs him so!). :)

[novicius]

Vikings host the Cowboys tonight -- let the first battle of the NFC North Revolution Weekend begin! :hard: #gopackgo

[GB]

Who will coach the Jaguars in 2017?

Jim Mora?
Jim Schwartz?
Josh McDaniels?
Doug Marrone?
Jon Gruden?
Tom Coughlin?
Norv Turner?

[novicius]

Cowboys took care of business as expected. A little too close tho', 'Boys. ;) #gopackgo

::

Interesting factoid: the 2016 Lions are currently tied all-time with the most comeback wins in a single season at 7. The other team? The 2009 Indianapolis Colts who where also coached by Jim Caldwell. :up:

Heh, I also forgot that former Packer Fullback John Kuhn is currently a Saint. He's a member of the #1 ranked NFL offense currently (Saints) and rank #2 in scoring. Didn't turn out too badly for him after all. ;) #kuuuuuuhn

Lions v Saints should be a damn good game! Unlike the toddler shit-britches slapfest that Packers v Texans is gonna be. :lol: #gopackgo

[TheBenior]

Lions v Saints should be a damn good game! Unlike the toddler shit-britches slapfest that Packers v Texans is gonna be. :lol: #gopackgo

Almost as good as 49ers at the Bears! :|

[21Kid]

Cowboys took care of business as expected. A little too close tho', 'Boys. ;) #gopackgo

::

Interesting factoid: the 2016 Lions are currently tied all-time with the most comeback wins in a single season at 7. The other team? The 2009 Indianapolis Colts who where also coached by Jim Caldwell. :up:

Heh, I also forgot that former Packer Fullback John Kuhn is currently a Saint. He's a member of the #1 ranked NFL offense currently (Saints) and rank #2 in scoring. Didn't turn out too badly for him after all. ;) #kuuuuuuhn

Lions v Saints should be a damn good game! Unlike the toddler shit-britches slapfest that Packers v Texans is gonna be. :lol: #gopackgo
You didn't hear about him getting 3 TDs in one game (http://www.gametimepa.com/story/sports/2016/10/02/john-kuhn-scores-3-touchdowns-saints/91449646/)?
The most he's ever had in a season is 4. (He still only has 3 this season. ;) )

[novicius]

Oh yeah, I remember that -- just forgot the team. :lol:

[Godson]

Justin Houston is out this week. :(

[Godson]

And against the odds we beat Atlanta at home.

Eric Fucking Berry is the man.

[Kchrpm]

And he gave the ball from one of his interceptions to his mom :up:

[Godson]

Pick 6 went to his mom, pick 2 for the win went to his dad.

[novicius]

Oof -- Lions & Vikings wins, a tough game against Seattle coming up, don't look good... :smh: #gopackgo

[novicius]

...then again when Seattle turns the ball over six times, that's a guaranteed win. :lol: :up: #gopackgo

[dodint]

So tired of Seattle. It's over, go home.

PIT/GB both undefeated since I left WI. Everything is right with the world.

[MR2 Fan]

My fantasy opponent had Le'Veon Bell on his team :smh:

[dodint]

Is it me?

Makes up for my QB getting 4pts...

[Jason]

I hope the Bills fire literally everyone on the team.

Including the owners.

I don't know what the answers is anymore. New owners, same result. New GM, same result. New coaches, same result. New QB, same result.

Just crash the team plane into the ocean already, fuck it.

[Godson]

You mad bro?

Look on the bright side. You aren't the Cleveland browns.

[FaultyMario]

Last year I had convinced myself the chargers were shit because the Spanos wanted to move to LA.

[Jason]

You mad bro?

Look on the bright side. You aren't the Cleveland browns.

Browns have made the playoffs more recently.

[21Kid]

The Bills have been to the Super Bowl more recently. :D

[Jason]

The Browns have won a National Football League championship, the Bills have not.

[Phil_SS]

Meh, the Bills won back to back American Football League Championships. I'd say you are even in the pre-SB era.

You've just both sucked since then.

[Jason]

AFL doesn't count, only the NFL does. :|

[novicius]

Dec. 4th, 2016: Jeff Fisher signs contract extension as Rams coach! (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18199958/jeff-fisher-signs-contract-extension-los-angeles-rams-coach)

Dec. 13th, 2016: Jeff Fisher fired as Rams coach!
(http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18263718/jeff-fisher-fired-head-coach-los-angeles-rams)
:lol:

[dodint]

The extension was signed in preseason but wasn't made public into Dickerson started having his tantrums. It is surprising, though. The sentiment was that he would get a ton of leeway since it was their first season in LA. Guess not.

[novicius]

It's the timing of the info coming to light combined with being fired nine days later that's the humorous part, not that he signed it months ago (as stated in the article I linked).

EDIT: Jared Goff is the L.A. Rams' QB of the future. Considering that Romo is going to be cast-off (presumedly) by Dallas, he might be a good veteran fit in celebrity-obsessed L.A. with a multi-billionaire owner that wants to make a splash. Just talking out of my ass here, I haven't read anything about it.

[21Kid]

I wasn't going to click on those links to read about some rando coach I care zero about... So Nate's additional detail is helpful to me. :finger:

[novicius]

So Nate's additional detail is helpful to me. :finger:
Good that that was efficient for you, Kid -- but the fact is Nate was replying to my post, explaining something to me that I did not need explained. :finger:

[21Kid]

:popcorn:

[novicius]

:)

[dodint]

Good that that was efficient for you, Kid -- but the fact is Nate was replying to my post, explaining something to me that I did not need explained. :finger:

Just pointing out the factual flaw in your (and every hack writer/radio show host) one line analysis of the situation.

Not that you're a hack, you're not a paid analyst. As for those guys, it's a bit silly to mock the faux 'timing' when it's the media themselves that were completely unaware that a head coach was resigned.

They had one job...

[Godson]

They had one job...

And yet they still make more than I do.

[novicius]

Just pointing out the factual flaw in your (and every hack writer/radio show host) one line analysis of the situation.
The timing of the headlines are funny/remarkable at face value, no more no less. No need to be pedant towards me -- you're killing the messenger of the lulz for no reason.

My analysis of the situation (since you assumed I was making one) is simply that ESPN reported the extension when it was leaked and that it had been signed months prior. They didn't know he was going to be fired nine days later. Nice walk-off payday for Fisher tho' ($7 million?) for such poor results over an extended period of time by NFL standards.

[dodint]

The timing of the headlines are funny/remarkable at face value, no more no less.

Debatable.

;)

[novicius]

Now that I can agree with. :lol:

[Jason]

Debatable.

;)

No it isn't.

...

Shit.

[novicius]

N.F.L. Owners Pave Way for Chargers and Raiders to Move (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/sports/football/raiders-chargers-move-nfl-owners.html?_r=0)


IRVING, Tex. — N.F.L. (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_football_league/index.html?inline=nyt-org) owners on Wednesday showed signs of grudging support for allowing the San Diego Chargers (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/profootball/nationalfootballleague/sandiegochargers/index.html?inline=nyt-org) to move to Los Angeles and the Oakland Raiders (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/profootball/nationalfootballleague/oaklandraiders/index.html?inline=nyt-org) to leave for Las Vegas, with plans for stadiums in the teams’ current cities having all but vanished.

The only thing left is for the Chargers to decide next month whether to exercise their option to leave for Los Angeles and for the Raiders to submit a formal proposal to relocate to Las Vegas, where lawmakers have promised to contribute $750 million (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/sports/football/oakland-raiders-las-vegas-move.html) toward a stadium.

Spanos has been unhappy with Qualcomm Stadium, one of the oldest stadiums in the league. A ballot measure that would have let the Chargers build a stadium in downtown San Diego with hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money was soundly defeated in November.
Well NFL Disney World is gonna be an 80,000 seat monster for the L.A. Rams (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/architecture/new-nfl-stadium-los-angeles/), they'd undoubtedly be fine with housing a 2nd team there, too (with the Raiders as a fall-back 2nd team option).

Las Vegas Raiders is just an amalgamation of everything wrong with America. :lol:

[Godson]

Fuck the raiders and fuck Phyllis Rivers

[21Kid]

:D/:(

My team at work pitched in for a Xmas gift to send me (& the missus) to the Bears v Packers game this Sunday. But, it's going to be 0/-15F. I don't know if I can physically stay outside for 4+ hrs in negative temperature. I have bad circulation in my hands and feet, and they are usually freezing by the time I get to work. (35 minutes)

[novicius]

Aw the thought is cool tho'!

Not much love being shown to bosses these days. :up: :up:

[Random]

https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Heated-Fleece-Glove-Mittens/dp/B005YXGWXM

[21Kid]

Temporarily out of stock.

[Kchrpm]

Mother fucker you are GOING to that game! COWBOY I mean PACKER THE FUCK UP!

[21Kid]

But, it's cold. :(



(They sell those hand warmers at target, right?)

[Kchrpm]

Yep
http://www.target.com/p/hothands-variety-pack-warmers/-/A-13796824

[21Kid]

free order pickup
out of stock at Chicago Wilson Yard

:mad:


edit: ok good.
get it today at Evanston

[dodint]

A rollercoaster of emotions in the NFL thread today.

[Freude am Fahren]

Two Star Wars movies have come out since the Browns last won a game.

[drew]

:lol:

[TheBenior]

:D/:(

My team at work pitched in for a Xmas gift to send me (& the missus) to the Bears v Packers game this Sunday. But, it's going to be 0/-15F. I don't know if I can physically stay outside for 4+ hrs in negative temperature. I have bad circulation in my hands and feet, and they are usually freezing by the time I get to work. (35 minutes)

I was going to go to that game, but it fell through. I was planning to wear my down snowboarding jacket and snowboarding pants. Also, I could park for free in the 1st District police station lot. And have a box of hand warmers I got from Costco.

[Rikadyn]

:D/:(

My team at work pitched in for a Xmas gift to send me (& the missus) to the Bears v Packers game this Sunday. But, it's going to be 0/-15F. I don't know if I can physically stay outside for 4+ hrs in negative temperature. I have bad circulation in my hands and feet, and they are usually freezing by the time I get to work. (35 minutes)

wear lots of wool.

[Godson]

Many socks, bring cardboard to stand on. Good boots.

[21Kid]

Cardboard?

I'd probably bring a blanket to sit on. LOL

[dodint]

A basket full of activated hand warmers?

Not sure how much security would like it, but they make hunting jackets that use the same lithium ion batteries that they use in cordless drills and trimmers and such. They stay nice and toasty for a bit.

[Godson]

Cardboard?

I'd probably bring a blanket to sit on. LOL

Cardboard give your feet a barrier from the concrete. Helps a ton.

[drew]

Yep. Thermal barrier. You'd be amazed how fast your feet/shoes soak up frozen from cold ass concrete. I've never been to an NFL game to experience this directly, but I have worked in the field in the dead of winter, and it's bullshit.

If you don't take cardboard, make sure not to stub your toe at half time.

Have you ever seen that video of a rose dipped in liquid nitrogen?

[novicius]

Did you go, Kid? ;)

(Game is on now so silence means they probably went!) #gopackgo

[dodint]

Nope. He's in Hangouts, all warm and lazy.

[21Kid]

Yeah... :(

[novicius]

Well considering the absolute shellacking the Bears are giving the Packers (yardage-wise, at least), you probably made the best choice. :lol: #gopackgo

Seriously, Barkley probably already has 300 yards... :smh:

[novicius]

Well that was brutally quick... :lol: #gopackgo

[21Kid]

3 point game. :/

[novicius]

Yep, Packers D wishes the game was over. :smh:

[21Kid]

It will be soon... They are not going to do anything

[novicius]

Yep-yep, bend-don't-break D has cost them the game again. #shrug

Would have been nice to continue the hot streak and this was a very winnable game. Too bad.

[21Kid]

JORDY!!!

[novicius]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Go Pack Go! #unbelievable

[Godson]

Reid's retarded play calling on 4th down twice over cost us this one.

[dodint]

I love you Tyler, but the Chiefs are perennial pretenders. They always have some goofy super season and then blow the end game out of their asses.

They're the Bengals with actual potential.

And Jamal Charles is over, has been for a while.

[Godson]

Jamaal Charles is done. I have no idea why these dumb fucks think he will be majorly productive. We continue to be better without him. Trade his ass off

[dodint]

I bring it up mainly because I wanted to see what you'd say; on my other forum I'm known as the guy that irrationally hates Jamal Charles because I just can't see how great he is, even at this stage in his career. Nice to know you're not wearing the rose colored glasses. ;)

I just know him as that guy that let me down in FF for like 2-3 straight seasons, and then he hasn't played since. heh.

[Phil_SS]

I just came here to say, Bengals gonna Bengal.

Sorry Keith. You deserve better.

[novicius]

As big a day as Ty Montgomery had (16 carries, 162 yards, 2 TDs), I am still more excited by Christine Michael (4 carries, 45 yards, 1 TD).

There's more to this than just me being a contrarian-as-usual: so far every time I've seen Michael with the ball, he just passes the eye-test. Something about his running, he's just a big-league superstar 'back! ;) Put me on the bandwagon (at least until either the fumbles and/or the primadonna shows up)! :rawk: #gopackgo

[dodint]

There is a guy on my other board that evaluates hockey talent at a professional level, he also dabbles in football as an aside. He is super high on Michael and can't figure out why he keeps getting cut; he figures he is either really dumb and can't grasp the playbook or he has an attitude problem. It's certainly not on-field talent holding him back.

[novicius]

His vision is really good, his body looks very natural running the ball -- and by the Gods that burst!! He absolutely dusts Montgomery in acceleration, it's no contest.

I've read that he had attitude issues at Seattle & Dallas; considering his award-winning All-Everything résumé from the college level on down, hopefully he's been bounced around the league enough to get his pride hammered into the shape it needs to be in order to succeed at the Pro level. #fingerscrossed

[novicius]

:lol:

http://gtxforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2113&stc=1

For those that don't know, Davante Adams is the Packers #2 WR -- this guy has a chip! :up: :up:

[Godson]

Chargers....lol

[dodint]

Yeah, watched that live and it was quite a show. :lol:

[neanderthal]

How bout them Steelers!!!!!

Antonio Brown with that mega clutch (twin clutch?!?!?!? Triple clutch???!!!???!!!) touchdown in the last 10 seconds.