Should we have a sim racing omnibus thread?

[Rare White Ape]

F1 2020 announced. This time the deluxe package will feature four M. Schumacher cars: Jordan 191, Benetton B194, B195, and Ferrari F2000.

New to the game will be a create-a-team mode where you manage the 11th team in the grid, as well as Hanoi and Zandvoort circuits that missed their real-world debuts this year.

Trailer but no gameplay here:

https://youtu.be/aDP9etooclc

[FaultyMario]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMwdwRZAFRE

Round 2, Misano. Live at 20:00, Greenwich time (3 pm ET).

[Kchrpm]

Create a team? Iiiiiiinteresting...

[Tom Servo]

They really need to sort out that replay thing for the broadcasts. Sucks not knowing what happened to Cuda.

[2ndMoparMan]

He'll probably let us know. He was having a good race up untill then. Sixth isn't bad, though.

[Tom Servo]

Did he get put back to sixth? I know right at the end there they had the drive-through for someone ahead of him that pushed him back to the end of the lead lap, promoting Cuda to 5th, but I wasn't sure if that stuck.

[2ndMoparMan]

Last I saw he was sixth. but I might be wrong

[FaultyMario]

He finished sixth but the guy who was running second (I think) failed to do a DT on the last lap and 80 seconds were added to his time, so that moved a lot of the guys in the top 10 one place up.

[CudaMan]

Yep, promoted to 5th at the end. When I was running 2nd I touched a sausage kerb of death in just the wrong way and it sent me into the wall. From there on I was nursing a damaged car home. I was being pretty aggressive with the car setup (low front end) and with track limits to try to be competitive here. It bit me, but that's ok, I'd rather that and put on a good show for half the race than trundle home a boring 3rd or 4th. That mindset might be a little different in a real championship for various reasons.

[2ndMoparMan]

You still did well, Bryan. Was a very entertaining race to watch. Really hope this gets you some more attention.

[stephenb]

Represent!
https://www.gt-world-challenge-europe.com/news/1754

[FaultyMario]

Any info on Tyler Cooke, the other American in the Pro lineup?

The only names I recognize are Luca Ghiotto and Louis Delétraz.

[Rare White Ape]

Flying the flag for Nissan :hard:

[FaultyMario]

Did nobody catch this? Pro Series:
Vitantonio Liuzzi Lamborghini Huracan GT3 Evo (2019) FFF Racing Team
Jenson Button McLaren 720S GT3 (2019) Jenson Team Rocket RJN

Go Cuda!

[Cam]

Just in case peeps don't peep the iRacing thread, I will be participating in the iRacing Nurburgring 24h tomorrow, Saturday, with my friends at Gone Broke Racing. That's also the team name (#007.) We will be driving a Porsche 911 Cup. I am going to attempt to livestream the race to my YouTube channel, just in case you wanted to follow along. The session starts at 1:00 PM (GMT.)

https://www.youtube.com/user/CamSeventyOne

[FaultyMario]

Is that 8 AM central?

[Blerpa]

Did nobody catch this? Pro Series:
Vitantonio Liuzzi Lamborghini Huracan GT3 Evo (2019) FFF Racing Team
Jenson Button McLaren 720S GT3 (2019) Jenson Team Rocket RJN

Go Cuda!

It's full of GT and open wheeler real racers, mind!

[Cam]

Is that 8 AM central?

I don't know, but you can find out here: https://www.timeanddate.com/

[Cam]

Nurburgring 24 Hours, live at 9:00 am Eastern!

https://youtu.be/-qQLi_NK0DY

[Rare White Ape]

Valentino Rossi got himself decked out with some gear. He joined Charles LeClerc and Francesco Bagnaia in a few races yesterday, which was broadcast on LeClerc's Twitch channel.

LeClerc then later went on to play Fortnite, during which he dressed up as a banana.

https://scontent.fbne3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95096168_4400536719972612_9036810593230651392_o.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=tlFtr0c-HqUAX_VR78L&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne3-1.fna&oh=80782fc238f5248e9b393c08ec6dbd1c&oe=5ECB0181

[Yobbo NZ]

Be nice to have money for that, or sponsors to throw it at you.

[Blerpa]

He got all that stuff as a gift from one italian store, AK Informatica.
It seems the guys behind the store (and with store I really mean a single, albeit famous around PC gamers and PC builders, physical store) thought it would be a nice marketing move.

[CudaMan]

So that's what AK Informatica is. They have sponsor logos on ACC custom livery cars, plus they have been playing a part in organization of these SRO races.

The International series that starts this weekend is something I'm trying, not sure how many weekends I'll want to qualify at 2am and race at 5am. Worst. Schedule. Possible. :lol: The GT Rivals series qualifies at noon my time the same day.

[Rare White Ape]

Did nobody catch this? Pro Series:
Vitantonio Liuzzi Lamborghini Huracan GT3 Evo (2019) FFF Racing Team
Jenson Button McLaren 720S GT3 (2019) Jenson Team Rocket RJN

Go Cuda!

CudaMan has qualified 27th.

He is racing against CHARLES LECLERC who qualified 23rd.

:boggle:

Race is on real soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PuVtmtIS6c

[Rare White Ape]

OK Bryan didn’t do too well finishing near the back, but he did beat two of the three F1 drivers in the field.

LeClerc was fast but erratic and put himself near the back, eventually finishing 21st. Jenson Button started strong and was in the top ten before coming together with another car. Vitantonio Liuzzi didn’t seem to have the pace to climb up the field.

Storming drive though from David Perel, starting 19th but finishing 5th.

[Cam]

We had an excellent result in the 24H. We finished second in class and eighth overall out of 52 starters. That was really fun and exciting. I will certainly do that again.

[dodint]

Very cool. I checked in from time to time. Was mkst impressed you, as ateam, only had 14x in 24h.

[Cam]

I was responsible for 4 or 5 of those. :o One of the other guys got 4x, so the rest of the team was REALLY clean. :up:

On my second stint, I side-swiped the wall in the Bellof S and damaged the steering. I limped it to the pits for 8.5 minutes of repairs, but that was the only incident that actually hurt us. Three of our drivers spun on cold tires just after coming out of the pits. :lol: One guy nosed it into the wall at Wehrseifen, but did negligible damage to the car. I had 0x in my last stint, but I was really taking it easy, as we had a comfortable lead over third in class. They were three laps down at that point. We had a pretty good race with them though. First in class guys were just out of this world faster.

My SR jumped from 3.7 to 4.99.

Edit: I went back, looked and 14x is, by far, the lowest number of incidents of the teams in our split that finished. :hard:

[Cam]

CudaMan is racing again today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GuLcU0J0Fc

[2ndMoparMan]

Jimmer had a rough 24h. Good finish, but it was rough. The Z4 did not look happy at the end.

[Rare White Ape]

CudaMan is racing again today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GuLcU0J0Fc

Destroying them in this race.

Holy heck this game looks great at night.

[Cam]

CudaMan with another win! :cool: Well done, buddy!

[Kchrpm]

Cool as a CudaMan will be the new phrase :cool:

[stephenb]

Killing it.

[Cam]

Then there's this:

http://cameronporter.net/Cleanest.PNG

http://cameronporter.net/Clean2.PNG

:hard:

Now I am super-embarrassed by my five incidents. :(

[FaultyMario]

This eRacing calendar runs thru the middle of june. (https://www.racefans.net/esports/2020-motorsport-esports-calendar/)

I gather SRO GT series is pausing this weekend but has back to back weekends at Spa and the Nurburgring.

[Tom Servo]

Weird, their official entrylist (https://www.gt-world-challenge-america.com/images/GTRivals_EntryList_Week4.pdf) shows it taking place tomorrow.

Then again, I've been pretty disappointed in their site. They seem to basically ignore the existence of this series other than some news releases for each race - I have been entirely unsuccessful and finding any actual list of results or standings for the series.

[Rare White Ape]

There was a suuuuper close finish to the Indianapolis 500 this morning. I suggest you go look it up!

[Kchrpm]

GT Rivals Esports / GT World America Round 4 at Spa is tomorrow at 3 PM EST


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGj23ERXEg

[dodint]

:up:

[Freude am Fahren]

There was a suuuuper close finish to the Indianapolis 500 this morning. I suggest you go look it up!

Santino showing his true colors. Remember what that fuck did in Europe? I was really surprised to ever see him in a car again after that, much less and Indy Car.

Also, lulz and sadness at the same time over McLaren going from 1-2-3 at Indy to virtually redeem last year to all crashing out on the last lap.

[Kchrpm]

We have spoiler tags :)

But yes, the last 10 laps is crazy.

[dodint]

It's a perfect demonstration that this is just a gimmick for drivers and brands to toy with while they wait for 'real racing' to come back. Between Pagenaud purposely wrecking Norris, the Santino nonsense and the rest of the shenanigans this is stupid. I'm done with the Indy/NASCAR crowd.

Still a fan of the GT World SRO stuff though, very clean stuff there for the most part.

[Rare White Ape]

Shit I hadn't seen what Ferrucci did - I only saw McLaughlin's feed from Twitch where the incident was obscured from his car. What an absolute cock.

[Edit I just checked it again and the crash was right there in front - I fully missed what happened!]

They'll take it seriously if Ferrucci gets a sanction over this. A few drivers have already been knocked on the head due to language and other behaviour, but nobody as far as I have seen has copped any penalty over intentionally ramming another car.

I know that McLaughlin is putting full effort and attention into this, treating each race like the real thing, getting up at 2am to have a race. Yes it's just a sim but he is leading by example.

[Rare White Ape]

Guys I hope you don't mind me spruiking this here but I done gone made a thang.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/239678070474680

It's in response to something I've noticed happening in the wider sim racing community, especially a few groups on Facebook: painful elitism and shitty purism in the sim racing enthusiast world. It bothers me.

I'll see people asking what the best console is for sim racing and they'll be met with a flood of posts saying PC is best and they should forget consoles. Or I'll see someone wanting to drum up conversation about the merits of certain popular games (namely Forza, GTS, F1, etc) only to be shot down because they are aRcAdE games and REAL sim racers don't look at those titles.

It's incredibly exlcusionary and judgemental, and doesn't help these sorts of people to get into the hobby we love.

These people WILL get into the more hardcore (or should I say, H4RDC0R3) aspects of the genre, but they also have to walk before they can run, and the more accessible games are how almost all of us got into it in the first place. Another smaller factor is that I sometimes see the admins of the high-end sim racing groups being dicks.

So I started this group. I hope it becomes a more free place to welcome newer people into sim racing. I'm sharing it here because:

- you guys share my interest in sim racing without judgement

- I hope some of you will join and help spread the love

It won't be a GTX-centric group, as we already have one for that. I'll be looking at sharing it around the other FB groups I frequent.

I hope to be the antidote to some elitist toxicity I've been seeing, plus I hope to have some fun while we do this!

[Kchrpm]

As someone whose best online racing experiences have come in PGR2 and Forza 4/6/7, and is hesitant to invest in a gaming PC and an iRacing subscription, I appreciate this group :up:

[Blerpa]

I may be an elitist asshole but lately I've had much more fun with F1 2019 and obviously Forza Horizon 4 instead of full fledged sims (I'm looking at you, bloody PG2).
So much I would love a Forza Horizon but very motorsport oriented with leagues, rules, no checkpoint crap or kiddie mini games and without stupid Gumball references.
No... Forza Motorsport is not it. Heck, I much prefer the physics of FH4 to FM7 (at least what little I tried of it - and unfortunately it is not in Gamepass either on PC or Xbox to try it out again).

One thing I object: iRacing does not suck. Or if it does it does megaton levels lower than goddamn Project Cars 2!

[Kchrpm]

GT Rivals Esports / GT World America Round 4 at Spa is tomorrow at 3 PM EST


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGj23ERXEg

He gone! :D

[Rare White Ape]

One thing I object: iRacing does not suck. Or if it does it does megaton levels lower than goddamn Project Cars 2!

That’s a tongue-in-cheek comment designed to trigger the elitists. Mission accomplished already, I guess :D

[Tom Servo]

That was fun to watch. I feel like the pole sitter in most of my races - I might qualify okay, and then I manage to forget where the start line is and completely screw the pooch a few corners in and take out half the field when I do it.

[Phil_SS]

That race was pretty damn fun to watch. Nice job Brian!

I wonder if he wins one of those fancy computers they show on the lead ins for winning the series?

[FaultyMario]

I wonder if he wins one of those fancy computers they show on the lead ins for winning the series?

I've asked a couple of times in-chat what the winner gets, but they haven't answered. I was under the impression that it was a charity event.


That race was pretty damn fun to watch. Nice job Brian!

Hopefully that was some good practice for next week's event with the European Pro racers. I feel they have some massive advantage in tracks like BCN. We should rig the voting so that the public-choice track is Weathertech Raceway. :assclown:

[Tom Servo]

They've been pretty fun to watch. Just recommended it to my uncle who's a big road racing fan and former racer, hoping it'll help him have some racing to watch while he's cooped up at home.

[FaultyMario]

As someone said during the broadcast, paste the first few corners it all settles down into great racing.

[Kchrpm]

Hopefully that was some good practice for next week's event with the European Pro racers.

Bryan has said in a post-race interview that, due to timezones, he is focusing more effort on the GT Rivals American series than the European GT series, and plans on continuing with that.

[FaultyMario]

I think he should give it a go at Spa. IMHO He's one of the best GT drivers in NA1, so I'd love to see him mix it up with the creme of the crop and reprisant us.


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1 Of course that is a super biased opinion, but whatever little I saw of him in the real GTR he seemed to be on par with his teammate 6 out of 10 times. Plus I don't think he is a worse driver than Mardenborough or Ordoñez, who went on to reap podia in top flight GT championships.

[FaultyMario]

Did anybody catch the O'ward on Ericsson incident live? Did it look as bad as pagenaud's or ferrucci's?

[Freude am Fahren]

Yeah I did. It was not as bad. Felt more someone being too optimistic, misjudging, rather than anything intentional. Something you almost might see in a real Indy. O'Ward had just been passed and tried to get it back right away.

Here's the full broadcast timestamped right before the incident. https://youtu.be/njQCaPXIOnA?t=4470

[FaultyMario]

Oh, oh... did you guys see that crazy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZLdfrBEoKG-LX7B5f-M7bw) MP4/6 sim build?

[FaultyMario]

Bryan has said in a post-race interview that, due to timezones, he is focusing more effort on the GT Rivals American series than the European GT series, and plans on continuing with that.

Just starting to watch (1:15 pm Central, 7:15 Greenwich) this morning's Euro race at Spa. The Audis and Lambos have the upper hand in this track. 4 Audis in the top 10, plus 3 Lambos round up 7 VAGs in the top 20.

BH took the GTR to 17th on the grid, with a 2:17.3910 (versus his own time last week of 2:18.027), darn kid found more than 6 tenths! He qualified barely ahead of David Perel on the Ferrari, so I expect him to mix it up with him and the Mercs, we'll see.

[Freude am Fahren]

GT WC America at Suzuka starting now!

Go Bryan!

[stephenb]

Great job Bryan 👍 Made for fantastic viewing.

[FaultyMario]

That was intense!

[Kchrpm]

Thanks for the heads-up, Freude, I had forgotten to check this weekend's schedule, but I got to watch the ending. Now to go back and watch the start!

[Rare White Ape]

That race was an absolute pisscutter.

Bryan needs to get back in a real GT3 car.

[Cam]

Well done, Bryan. Great performance today.

[Freude am Fahren]

Awesome job Bryan!

No matter what I do, I cannot get ACC to work with my Reverb VR headset. Whole computer locks up as soon as I launch it. Really frustrating me tonight.

[Phil_SS]

Really fun race to watch. :up:

[FaultyMario]

Perel had the faster car. Sure, he had no hope in a drag race, but the mass of the GT-R was making it increasingly difficult for Bryan to manage his grip levels as the race wore on. I don't think Bryan is prone to make mistakes, but he was going to be more vulnerable in the twisty bits, though not necessarily in the slow corners. IMHO perel's best chance was to maintain contact and go for the move in the esses or in 130R, and not in a heavy braking zone like he unsuccessfully tried for 2 or 3 times.

[Tom Servo]

Perel's car seemed amazing under braking. That was a nailbiter, great fun to watch.

I think I got my uncle hooked on watching, now to work on my dad.

[Phil_SS]

Perel had the faster car. Sure, he had no hope in a drag race, but the mass of the GT-R was making it increasingly difficult for Bryan to manage his grip levels as the race wore on. I don't think Bryan is prone to make mistakes, but he was going to be more vulnerable in the twisty bits, though not necessarily in the slow corners. IMHO perel's best chance was to maintain contact and go for the move in the esses or in 130R, and not in a heavy braking zone like he unsuccessfully tried for 2 or 3 times.

Totally agree. There were still 3-4 laps to go when he tried to make the move. He should have waited a few laps and by that time I think Brian's tires would have worn off enough that he could have made a fair pass. He just got impatient.

The attempted pass was ill timed and when you go onto the grass to try and make a pass you deserve a penalty.

Also, why is Brian the only one running the GTR?

[Rare White Ape]

Cars for Pro drivers (real-life racers) are set according to what they race in real life.

And for the Am and Pro-Am sim racers, nobody drives the hulking GT-R because it’s more difficult to extract speed from it.

So you have this guy displaying enormous B.D.E. by driving the only GT-R in these races and kicking arse.

[Freude am Fahren]

:lol:

[Kchrpm]

There have been other Nissan drivers at different races, it just depends on what the sim racers choose.

[FaultyMario]

Tuesday, may 12th.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX0f14dWoAAbfsU.jpg

[Tom Servo]

I watched that - I kinda wish they'd found someone who had a better machine than an old 486 to stream it.

[FaultyMario]

Forgot about. Had hw to turn in

[FaultyMario]

I believe the Indycar iRacing Challenges has wrapped up, right? That leaves:

SRO eSport GT series at Nurburgring (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yHapH6mW1ceZ_5PDUf1_g) 12:45 GMT, 7:45 Eastern US

Australian Supercars All Stars eSeries on iRacing at Daytona and Talladega 10:00 GMT, 05:00 Eastern US. (Look for it on Facebook and Twitch)

GT Rivals Esports – Round 6 @ Barcelona (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTlAyWteIvE) - GT World Challenge America 2020 - 20:00 GMT, 14:00 Central US.

Plus there's the Formula E and the Race All-Star Series.

[Rare White Ape]

I think we’ve got about six weeks before actual racing starts up again so don’t be surprised if there are more events added between now and then.

I’d particularly like to see a Virtual Grand Prix held at Zandvoort in F1 2020, since they have sent preview codes out to YouTubers and whatnot.

[Cam]

Heitkotter wins another! Nicely done! Stunning performance in the whole series.

[Blerpa]

Yep, very clean and solid performance.
Is there a site where to check point standings and such?
Btw, Koch was all over the place.

[Kchrpm]

They have chosen not to award/track points for the races in the SRO America/GT Rivals eSports series. I don't know if they have said why. There is no question, though, who is the man.

[Tom Servo]

It'd still be nice to have a page with a list of results and all that.

Was definitely a textbook case of consistency - the GTR wasn't the fastest car out there, but he was one of the few fast ones that didn't screw up in some way.

[Phil_SS]

I decided that since I really like to watch the races, that I would buy the game on my Xbone as a support gesture.

Says it doesn't come out til June 23rd or something but it is downloading the whole game plus DLC pack. Maybe it has a demo....

[Kchrpm]

Pre-loading is a nice feature, avoids the release day issue of the server getting killed and being useless. Let me know if there is a demo or something that it lets you play, I doubt it, but I would give it a try. Already considering getting it, also because of how well it showed in the GT Rivals series. I just wish it had the IMSA cars and tracks.

[Phil_SS]

There is not a demo. It just allowed me to pre-load the game. Which I agree is great. And I picked it up before the release date because I get the Intercontinental GT Pack DLC at launch for free.

"Players who decide to pre-order Assetto Corsa Competizione will receive free access to the Intercontinental GT Pack DLC at launch, which features four of the most iconic international circuits from around the world: Kyalami Grand Prix Circuit (South Africa), Suzuka Circuit (Japan), Weathertech Raceway Laguna Seca (United States), and Mount Panorama Circuit (New South Wales Australia). What’s more, this DLC will come with over 45 new car liveries, 30 new teams and 50 new drivers, along with all-new game modes from the Intercontinental GT Challenge, powered by Pirelli. (There’s a lot to be excited about here!)"

Game is only $40 as well.

[Rare White Ape]

Excellent :up:

I hope it runs well for Xbox. Do you have the X or the S?

Maybe the optimisations for console lead to some optimisations for the PC version. I only play it occasionally and it keeps resetting my graphics back to default for some reason, so each time I come back to it I’m having to smooth over all the problems I find due to performance issues.

[Phil_SS]

Excellent :up:

I hope it runs well for Xbox. Do you have the X or the S?

I have just a Xbox One. I do plan on picking up a Xbox Series X this fall though.

So yeah. I hope it runs well on just a plain Xbox One. Kinda has too......

[retsmah]

The GT Rivals series seems to be improving at showing replays,they could still improve a bit more though! Was a little disappointing we didn't get to see what happened to the early leader.

Nice job though Bryan! I've been intentionally missing the races on the weekend so I can watch them Monday morning, makes the first day of work for the week a little more fun!

[Kchrpm]

I'm guessing the broadcast server/tool just doesn't save enough of the race data as it's going.

[Kchrpm]

Virtual 24 hour teams announced, but not the drivers. They have said that it will be a mix of pro and eSports drivers, though.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/virtual-24h-le-mans-entry-list-revealed/

[Rare White Ape]

Yeah I read somewhere it was to be at least one pro driver per car or something, so there should be at least 50 real-world drivers on that grid. Hopefully this will be a good race.

I am very curious however: the ACO has a deal with Microsoft in which Forza Motorsport is the 'official' esports racing game of Le Mans, and Forza logos adorn the track at Tetre Rouge.

Yet, this esports event is being held in rFactor 2, which is unquestionably a better game for this sort of thing.

But on top of this, I've heard from a few sources that rFactor 2's server-side software has been notoriously unreliable in the past, leading to bad connections and aborted races. Jimmy Broadbent spoke about it a little while ago and his buddies gave up on rF2 to focus on competing in the LM24H in iRacing instead.

In all of this I wonder why they don't just go to iRacing to host this instead.

[Kchrpm]

Forza 7 is not prepared to do this kind of race. It would not fair well under direct comparison to the rest of the sims being used.

The rFactor 2 choice might be related to the car list. iRacing doesn't have an LMP2 car or similar. The closest thing to a high speed, non-factory prototype is the Riley Daytona Prototype, which I doubt would have been of much interest to the LMP teams.

Hopefully rF2 doesn't let them down, but I know so little about it, I'm not even sure that I knew it existed before this news dropped.

[Kchrpm]

Checking their latest build updates, they posted on Thursday (https://www.studio-397.com/2020/05/release-of-build-1118/) that their latest build includes broadcast overlays as well as a system to resume a race on the same or a different server if there are networking problems:


Especially for long races, we have now implemented a way to resume a race on the same or a different server in case of networking problems. At the end of every lap, the current standings and order are backed up and these script files can be run on a new server to resume the race after all drivers have rejoined. We’ll explain this system in more detail in the upcoming weeks.

Edit: and it looks like a German website did an LMP2 + GTE 24LM race this weekend:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN4uyXK_ZtE

[Cam]

Bryan's racing Mt. Panorama this week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hjFSX8Qgc

Edit: Uh-oh, he's having trouble connecting.

Edit 2: Race postponed due to ACC system-wide technical issues.

[Kchrpm]

They're postponing the race because about a dozen drivers and the race stewards are not able to join due to game-wide issues.

[Kchrpm]

Actually it's going now, maybe they got it all fixed, but they haven't said if it's back to being official.

[Cam]

Oh, damn!

[Tom Servo]

Oops, missed the first half of the race after I turned it off when they said it was being postponed until mid-week.

[Tom Servo]

BTW, I know that the black numbers on white mean real driver and white numbers on grey mean sim racer, but what do the black numbers on red signify?

[Cam]

Yeah, I shut it off too. Then Kch mentioned they were on. I did not notice the black-on-red numbers. I do not know and I've been watching every week.

[Freude am Fahren]

If I'm thinking of the right thing, the red box will be the driver the camera is focused on?

[Kchrpm]

That's the red box for their position, they're talking about the red box for their car number.

3554

[stephenb]

^ guest drivers

[Blerpa]

If I'm thinking of the right thing, the red box will be the driver the camera is focused on?

The red box on the left is for the driver on camera.
The red box on the right should be for guest drivers, as Stephen said.

[Rare White Ape]

Flyin Brian in the 05 at Bathurst.

He would have a lot of followers in Australia if that happened in real life ;)

[FaultyMario]

Flyin Brian in the 05 at Bathurst.

He would have a lot of followers in Australia if that happened in real life ;)

Another nail biter? Been busy.

[Tom Servo]

I feel I should point out that 05 is the freak that spells his name with a 'y', the true Brian is both me and never described as "flyin'".

[Rare White Ape]

Ah shit, must've autocorrected. Sorry BrYan!


Another nail biter? Been busy.

Not really. The Bathurst race was pretty snoozy due to the amount of early incidents that spread out the field.

I was referring to the other significant driver who ran the 05 at Bathurst throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s.

[retsmah]

I've been saving these races for Monday morning while working (or Tuesday morning in this case, as we had a holiday Monday here in the US). So even a race that is a little uneventful is a nice distraction for me!

Every time I watch Bryan race I'm like man I need to go do some iRacing tonight! Then I'm often a little disappointed, having a nice consistent race to a 17th place finish is a little less exciting than what he's been doing!

I will say the car getting stuck sideways and blocking traffic was a little entertaining, although not for the car that got stuck behind him! I'm pretty sure that guy ran World Challenge Touring Car in a BMW when I was working for the series back in like 09.

[M4FFU]

For an xbox, what is the best choice of driving sim. I got Project Cars 2 with Gold, which I'm enjoying, but I see Assetto Corsa as well - is that 'better'?

[Yobbo NZ]

PC2 is probably the best "sim" you'll get so far.
Random handling of some cars/physics makes it a rather frustrating experience at times, but some cars are a blast to drive.
If you don't have a One X, you'll suffer with frame drops and stuttering with too many cars in a race, also the wheel will do stupid things too.
I tried to like Asseto Corsa, but it feels rather bland.

Get Wreckfest, it'll be the most fun you'll probably have on a console racing game, and multiplayer is also good.

Moving away from console for a second, my PC will happily play iRacing with 30 car grids, graphics turned down a bit mind you, but PC2 with everything turned down or off, it struggles badly to the point of being unplayable.
Even Wreckfest with all the parts flying everywhere it can handle easily.
So it makes me think that they really cocked up the optimisation on PC2 on all formats.

[Freude am Fahren]

Asseto Corsa Competizione is coming to XBox in June. It's really high quality (on PC) but pretty limited focus. GT3 mainly, with some add-ons coming I think for GT4

[Kchrpm]

Asseto Corsa Competizione is coming to XBox in June. It's really high quality (on PC) but pretty limited focus. GT3 mainly, with some add-ons coming I think for GT4

If it were GT3 and GTE, I'd probably have bought it already, but GT3 only and no GT America leaves out some core stuff for me.

[Rare White Ape]

In my opinion Assetto Corsa is the best sim you can get on a console right now. Way better than PC2. It can be found incredibly cheaply if you’re browsing for 2nd-hand games. Look for the Ultimate Edition with all the post-launch DLC included.

Naturally you’ll want the PC version if you’ve got a machine that can handle it. It’s five years old so cheaper systems can swing it with the graphics turned down. The mod support is extremely good in PC land and a big reason why it’s still so popular in the sim racing community.

The handling model is superb and all of the cars feel dynamic and responsive. The track selection is excellent, plus the AI puts up a real challenge.

[M4FFU]

I'm a way off thinking about getting a PC. I'll be picking up a wheel next month, so want to stick with X1 for the moment. Tis frustrating tho as the 'mod' community would give me what I'm after. I've little interest in road cars: I want old race stuff.

I saw an ad for ACC and I am a fan of GT3, but I love with wide variety of stuff PC2 has.

[M4FFU]

If it were GT3 and GTE, I'd probably have bought it already, but GT3 only and no GT America leaves out some core stuff for me.

I want Road Atlanta in PC2. LOVE that track.

[Kchrpm]

I saw an ad for ACC and I am a fan of GT3, but I love with wide variety of stuff PC2 has.

Just in case it isn't clear, Assetto Corsa and Assetto Corsa Competizone are different games. While ACC is GT3 only, with GT4 being added later this year, AC has lots of different types of cars, including some old race cars: https://www.assettocorsa.net/cars/

[FaultyMario]

I share the anger, but I don't see a Nissan or a GranTurismo team that would have nominated him; I don't see what VAG or FIAT could win from having an non-associated driver in their virtual stable.

Also, that Verstappen-Norris-Huttu lineup is scary.

[Rare White Ape]

Cuuuuuuuuuute

https://twitter.com/djrteampenske/status/1265453306643529728?s=21

[Rare White Ape]

I share the anger, but I don't see a Nissan or a GranTurismo team that would have nominated him; I don't see what VAG or FIAT could win from having an non-associated driver in their virtual stable.

Also, that Verstappen-Norris-Huttu lineup is scary.

Atze Kerkhof is in that team too. Plus an all-female team, sooo many F1 drivers… and a Shed Racer.

Some of the liveries that I’ve seen look great. I wonder if the scale model manufacturers will start looking at them for production!

[Kchrpm]

There are just random sim racers that got seats, but I guess they have big YouTube followings so *shrug*

[Tom Servo]

I realize I'm failing you all by not knowing specifically what you're talking about, but maybe one of you could throw a link out or something?

[Cam]

You are not the only one. What are you guys talking about?

[FaultyMario]

Keith posted a link to the wec's Twitter feed. That had all the teams racing the rFactor2 virtual 24H event. Most teams are made up of 2 professional racers and 2 Sim racers.

We're angry that the most dominant driver in one of the sanctioned eSports championships didn't land a spot in the biggest sports and touring car eSports event, for which we believe he had previously shown competence and competitiveness.

I argue that Bryan was unfortunate that no Nissan or Granturismo-branded team is participating and that the other sponsors had no incentive to nominate him, even when he might be a better pick.

[Cam]

Thank you.

[Kchrpm]

Faulty was replying here to a post I made in the Endurance Racing 2020 thread, because I originally posted about the Virtual 24LM in this thread.


Virtual 24LM driver line-ups were announced today on the WEC's Twitter, and HOW THE EFF IS BRYAN NOT ON THERE AFTER DOMINATING THE SRO GT RIVALS SERIES YOU BIG DUMMIES.

https://twitter.com/FIAWEC/media

[Tom Servo]

Ahh yes, that makes much more sense now.

[Rare White Ape]

I can’t speak for Bryan but to compete in the virtual 24LM you need to be interested and available in the first place, don’t you?

[FaultyMario]

I hope Bryan can accommodate to race in the SRO European race. Zak Brown will take JB's spot on the virtual Catalunya (https://sportscar365.com/esports/mclaren-boss-to-make-wildcard-appearance-at-barcelona/) grid.

[Kchrpm]

The finale just ended, give it a watch when you can :)

[Tom Servo]

Pretty thrilling finale to the season, that's for sure.

[Phil_SS]

Agreed. I actually remembered to watch it live and it was thrilling to watch. :up:

[Rare White Ape]

The last couple of laps were smashing!

It’s too bad for me that the result was spoiled by an errant click on a Facebook post as soon as I woke up this morning :(

But good driving Bryan, and good driving David Perel, holy heck!

[FaultyMario]

The last couple of laps were smashing!

It’s too bad for me that the result was spoiled by an errant click on a Facebook post as soon as I woke up this morning :(

But good driving Bryan, and good driving David Perel, holy heck!

I had the Zak Brown story opened in a browser tab and when it refreshed, boom! self-spoiler.

[retsmah]

That was an exciting race, and a great season overall for Bryan, was fun to watch!

[stephenb]

https://youtu.be/YkiZijDDG_Y

[stephenb]

https://youtu.be/BNh3klfx2Rk

[stephenb]

Is it just me or does this look like a Forza Motorsports copy? The way the wings fell off those GT3 cars while he was smashing his way around Interlagos :lol: And those stupid hand animations in car while driving in a straight line to try and amp up the excitement.

[Kchrpm]

The Project Cars Reddit all think it looks like GRID, the game they just released. The driving did look frenetic, but that could just be because it was being done with a controller.

I want to be optimistic about it, but I'm mostly nervous about bugs.

[Blerpa]

Since the latest GRID sucked major arse I suppose this game will double the suckage of Project Cars 2 in an sick mix.
Congratulations.

[retsmah]

I enjoyed that video. Drives like he's having a seizure -> perfect corners 10/10!

[Rare White Ape]

I thought SMS was doing a Fast and Furious game right now.

Did they mix up the design documents or something?

[Kchrpm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7cCg6kbR8

I don't know enough about drifting to know if this is realistic.

[Kchrpm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJetbmGAGgk

Something they mention in the interview that I like is that they'll have daily scheduled races, where you sign up to participate and then your qualification time and driver license/skill level will determine which lobby you're placed in when the race starts. That works out a lot like the organized online racing I've done in Forza that I have enjoyed so much.

[Rare White Ape]

The LM24 Virtual is on now.

They’ve got the full deal going.

Spotters guide: https://assets.lemans.org/explorer/pdf/courses/2020/24h-lemans-virtual/24h-le-mans-virtual-spotter-guide.pdf

Official broadcast: https://youtu.be/gf4d1DujrXc

Jimmer’s stream: https://youtu.be/bxBifhOW8wk (Radio Bacho on now)

Live timing: https://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/lm24virtual

[Kchrpm]

Assetto Corsa Competizone is going to show off some console gameplay, and have some panelists to discuss the game, tomorrow morning. Should be a familiar face there, according to social media posts :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZLePrmMKTI

[Rare White Ape]

Thanks for the heads-up Keef :up:

[Blerpa]

The game (ACC) is regularly updated on PC: I've seen at least 1 update per week lately.
I wonder if, once the console versions will be out, they will extend the cars' selection and classes.
It would be nice!

[Rare White Ape]

They've already announced that GT4 cars will be added, not sure when though but definitely this year.

[Kchrpm]

Watching the live stream, so far this video is more about ACC's viability as an eSport rather than the console versions. Seems like they're looking for people to sponsor future events.

Edit: Now they're to the panel with the drivers, Bryan's hair looks great :D

[Kchrpm]

At the end they did discuss the console versions for a little bit, saying that the physics haven't changed at all but the graphics have been dialed back to get it to run on console. Very little detail.

[Kchrpm]

They put up a very useful FAQ

https://acc.505games.com/console-community-faq-guide/

[Phil_SS]

30 FPS and 900P in this day and age is pretty shitty. Forza 6, which is 5 years old, runs at 60FPS and 1080P. Plus no private lobbies.

[Rare White Ape]

I’ll pass on that, haha!

But it’s no surprise. ACC is a heavy load on most PCs. You basically need a 2080ti to run it in VR.

[Kchrpm]

I find it interesting that they are going to go for 30 fps and native 4K instead of 60 fps at a lower res for the XBox One X.

[Rare White Ape]

I haven’t seen that far into the video yet (or read any news on it) but what they should be doing is allowing the option to play 1080/60 on the higher performance consoles.

And with the next generation but a few months away, hopefully 4K/60 will be a possibility.

[Kchrpm]

It's very possible that my next gen console purchasing decision will hinge on sim and wheel availability. Depending on the physics and bug fixes, Project Cars 3 seems like the best fit for what I want (various C7 and McF1 versions to drive around WEC/IMSA tracks in multi-class endurance races online), but that will be multiplatform.

[Rare White Ape]

Just get a PC :p

For what you want that’s a serious proposition, assuming you would be budgeting for a next-gen machine at launch. Heck, even a cheap mid-spec PC will play PC3 really easily because that game engine is very economical.

For me the only consideration is wheel compatibility for Gran Turismo. All the other sims are better played on a PC.

[Blerpa]

My rig is pretty old (i5 4670k oc to 4.0GHz, 16gb DDR3 oc 2133 and a RX 580 Nitro+) and albeit running on a 1080p 21:9 monitor with 75Hz Freesync it can run Forza Horizon 4 at solid 75 fps with everything at Ultra.
Assetto Corsa Competizione? According to the Radeon Control I average measly 35.6 fps in it. It is actually playable but it really hits hard.

That said, my rig, even so old, runs circles around my Xbox One S in any game I've compared existing on both platform, Forza Horizon 4 included.
So ACC will be a behemoth to run even on the One X.
I agree with RWA: they at least should give the option to run 1080/60... no point to have a shaky, not even stable 30fps, at 4K.

[Rare White Ape]

I think it's a no-brainer and might already be part of the plan, because most of the early PS4 Pro-supported games have a similar option, certainly a lot of the 3rd party games do, usually with 3 modes: 4K at locked 30fps, 4K unlocked framerate, or 1080p locked 60fps - depending on the game.

I think it's only the first-party games that really define that it's 4K or bust at 60 or 30fps, for example Horizon, Spiderman, GT Sport etc having no 1080p option.

BUT, at system level PS4 Pro users can define a 1080p supersampled mode, where extra unused horsepower can be put to use at full HD resolutions to increase framerate for some games with unlocked framerates. I don't know if the X1X has this, it probably does, so it could be put to good use with ACC.

[Kchrpm]

Just get a PC :p

I really do not want to deal with all the drivers and settings and such that I always see people trying to troubleshoot with PCs.

I did see a reasonable argument: if you have a dedicated sim rig in a corner somewhere, always set up and ready to go rather than needing to be put in place and then put away as something put in front of your TV/main computer, you will use it more. That's something I'm thinking about.

But would I get something *just* for sim racing and no other gaming? I don't know.

[Cam]

24 Hours of Le Mans Saturday! Here's a link for the live stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoC4lTVE5R8

[Rare White Ape]

ACC PS4 Pro gameplay uploaded by the developer.

It has been captured from the PS4 share function, which maxes out at 1080p/30 at a low bit rate, so it’s not representative of actual resolution or frame rate from the console.

Comments are turned off on YouTube. I don’t know why Kunos doesn’t just capture it in the best possible quality but hey, it’s their marketing choice.


https://youtu.be/CYqtgpehyrw

[Kchrpm]

Project CARS 3 removes tire wear, fuel usage, and pit stops. It is therefore removed from my list of games to consider.

https://www.projectcarsgame.com/three/news/developer-blog-1/?fbclid=IwAR1Ia0AUSLXSlRCOFUbNSBWv6mGv3PWml08NMSa3 TZVNAa0g7h7J7KGRGQQ


Nick Pope: Principal Vehicle Handling Designer: So, for example, by removing tyre wear and fuel usage, we could in turn remove pitstops, which resulted in much closer and more consistent racing.

[FaultyMario]

That looks short sighted, I know it's less program work to do, but as with your case, it turns a group of potential buyers away from that offer.

A set of toggle options would have worked well if their aim was really "a renewed focus on the driver and the racing".

[Tom Servo]

Sounds like they've decided that the fields already too crowded with the likes of iRacing and AC/ACC, so they're going to try to go after the simcade market. Given the way sim fans talks about PC2, that might be the right choice.

[Kchrpm]

They're going after the simcade market, but refusing to call it simcade.

https://twitter.com/bell_sms/status/1269969198358413312


This isn't 'simcade'. It's pure sim with a fun game around it.

[Tom Servo]

Is he the same one that said all sorts of stupid things about their planned console?

[Blerpa]

Project CARS 3 removes tire wear, fuel usage, and pit stops. It is therefore removed from my list of games to consider.

https://www.projectcarsgame.com/three/news/developer-blog-1/?fbclid=IwAR1Ia0AUSLXSlRCOFUbNSBWv6mGv3PWml08NMSa3 TZVNAa0g7h7J7KGRGQQ

So basically they are doing Forza but with a borky physic engine and without the fun? BLEH.

[Kchrpm]

Except Forza Motorsport does have tire wear and fuel use, unless you mean Forza Horizon.

[Kchrpm]

Is he the same one that said all sorts of stupid things about their planned console?

Probably.

[Rare White Ape]

ACC BMW M4 GT4 trailer —> https://twitter.com/ac_assettocorsa/status/1276500461512732672?s=21

[Blerpa]

Except Forza Motorsport does have tire wear and fuel use, unless you mean Forza Horizon.

I meant Horizon 4.
I wouldn't insult Motorsport that way.

I'm reading the GTP thread about it: they are ripping a new one to Ian Bell. It's brutal.
Also blaming Codemasters for forcing SimBin to dumb down the game, but it seems Bell itself, in 2018, said the game would be a mix of NFS Shift (EWWWW) and Project Cars.
Just let the money do the talk: boycott the shit out of it. And bad mouth the game to every player you know.

EDIT: "The difference with PC3 is - without Pitstops, the change in tyre compounds happens automatically. That doesn't mean you go from racing in a sunny environment to a wet environment and the car handles the same. Absolutely not. It just means you don't have to pit to put the wets on, therefore no break in the racing action. And from dry to wet you'll be able to feel the difference as always." (Nathan Bell)

I wish to have his courage to say that kind of manure straight to the face of sim players. Ludicrous.

[Rare White Ape]

:shrug:

The game left the realm of true sim racing before the latest comments came out.

There are plenty of good sim games to play already. Just focus on enjoying those.

[Rare White Ape]

In other news, the highly lauded WRC 8 is free on XBL Gold starting July 1.

I’m keen to give it a try.

[Blerpa]

:shrug:

The game left the realm of true sim racing before the latest comments came out.

There are plenty of good sim games to play already. Just focus on enjoying those.

Ah, yes. But not only sims, also simcade or arcade.
I just found hilarious that (probably forced by Bandai Namco that was their previous company) they are spitting in the face of their core fans meanwhile getting criticized by casual players, too.
I believe the game will probably bomb as much as the last Grid.

[Rare White Ape]

Yeah there doesn’t seem to be much interest in those arcadey racers with simple physics and real cars and tracks.

People deep into motorsport want realism.

People more interested in The Fast and the Furious want Burnout.

And never the twain shall meet.

The last NFS title would’ve been quite successful if it wasn’t full of cancerous MTX and EA was brave enough to market it better. And Forza Horizon has done incredibly well.

I don’t understand how publishers see the two target audiences and think they can cater to both, when in reality there is very little crossover.

[Blerpa]

Ironically enough I would love a Forza Horizon with the story and online engagement, without checkpoints, drifting, toy games and stupid arcade stuff but with leagues, proper tracks and circuits, proper point standings, private full customizable leagues, race liveries and so on... but with Forza Horizon 4 physics, more or less, but just slighty realistic (like, I get mad in Dirt or Cross Country races where stupid pickups beat often proper tuned Rally Cars... I mean, WTF people? It's an idiotic RAM or a vulgar Ford pick-up) in the motorsport narrative.
I mean, I find that more "motorsport" than stale and lame "fake youngster upcoming hero" Career modes in games like F1 2019.

A Forza Horizon (*not* Forza Motorsport, mind - it felt sterile) with the same structure but motorsport cinematically-oriented would be my dream.
I mean, there are Clubs, Teams, liveries, Classes, Categories... goddamn, turn those to FIA/ACO/IMSA real regs and classes, put there simple pitstops (there have been pitstops in videogames since the beginning of them, SimBim patetic excuse is shameful), flags, sectors and so on.
It would be majestic, and yet simcade enough to be fun without being anorak-ish simmy.
One can dream... but surely it won't be ever created.

[Freude am Fahren]

Dirt Rally 2 is $9.99 on steam until July 9th. GOTY version with a ton of DLC is $17.99

Finally gonna get this one. The first was great fun.

[dodint]

Since I already own a few NFS titles I have no need for PC3.

I was let down by PC2 as well, so good riddance.

[Kchrpm]

Now I'm wondering even what sim has any shot of coming to console that has the features I want. It's not like there's going to be an rFactor version coming to the next gen.

[Blerpa]

Automobilista 2 could be a bit of your piece of cake but it's PC only and one should wait for mods with more cars and real liveries.

[Rare White Ape]

AMS 2 is bloody great. It's one of the best sims I've tried.

[Blerpa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rALOOKD31Ec

[Rare White Ape]

ACC’s GT4 pack now has a release date. It is coming on July 15th for PC :up:

Console versions, as well as additional British circuits, will be later this year.

[Kchrpm]

https://www.projectcarsgame.com/three/tracks/

No Spa, no Le Mans, no COTA...

[Kchrpm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMQBMlTdW4

His impressions: looks and sounds like a mobile game, road cars drive well, race cars do not. He compares it to one of his own Project Cars 2 videos/experiences at one point, and it is not positive. He had to check and make sure that the graphics were actually on the highest setting, but they were.

[Rare White Ape]

Nope.

[dodint]

Does not belong in the sim thread. Please resume this discussion at the arcade.

[2ndMoparMan]

lol

[Blerpa]

Tried Project Cars 3.
Menu? Obsolete and chaotic stuff from the '90/'00s.
Gameplay? Glorified Ridge Racer/Grid 1 stuff. Makes Forza Horizon 4 feel like an hardcore sim. Enough said.
Graphics? Looked like a PS3 game. With Textures set on Ultra, Anisotropic 16x, everything on Ultra or High besides Motion Blur which I turned off.

I'm amazed: this game is a bigger turd than I expected.
And it looks like crap.

[Rare White Ape]

I think you're wrong about the menus.

From what I've seen they look like menus from overly busy modern mobile phone games.

[Freude am Fahren]

Yeah, it's pretty sad. I guess they figured this is where the money is. But to be fair, I grew tired of each of the previous fairly quickly. Even after pretty good first impressions. They were definitely the best looking sims until ACC came along, which makes this even stranger.

[Kchrpm]

I really enjoyed some of my experiences with PC2, but the bugs kept me from investing more time. I couldn't be consistent enough with GTLM or GT3 cars, and I felt like if I spent the time to practice I'd just end up running into the online racing issues during an enduro.

[Blerpa]

What I'm shocked is that the old Forza Horizon 3 looks better than PC3. Actually, PC2 looks way better than PC3.
And as RWA said... it looks like a driving game from my Galaxy S9+, aesthetically.
How did they manage to do a game with worse graphics than its 3 years old predecessor?

[Rare White Ape]

Some aspiring modders have ripped ACC's Bathurst and converted it for use in AC.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/assetto-corsa-pc-mods-general-discussion.307899/page-1610

Get on it before it's taken down!

[Rare White Ape]

How many of us can boast that our dads are good at sim racing?

Probably no one. I am probably somewhat unique in this regard :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Vj91RmPA0&t=23s&ab_channel=MickJohnson

To be fair, the old man has his own sim rig, made from a pretty good Thrustmaster Ferrari 488 wheel, a 32" Panasonic LCD TV, a home made seat that his friend who he has known since school age built, and a 40 year old laptop running the original rFactor. He does what he can with the equipment he has. He's had plenty of practice.

But he has only tried VR once before, when I got him to have a go at GT Sport about two years ago. Oh, and he has an astigmatism in his eyes, which means he's never experienced 3D vision or parallax before, so one of the main benefits of VR is lost on him.

Stil, no wonder the fuker sired me. How many moistened knickers would this performance have gotten in the early 80s if sim racing was a thing?

[FaultyMario]

Homebrew gig looks comfy.

[Cam]

:cool::up:

[Blerpa]

So, I bought a second hand (Amazon Warehouse) wheel: Thrustmaster T150 Pro (the one with the better pedals).
Already feeling good in F1 2020, getting accustomed in ACC (not that I usually play it)... I may reinstall more sims just to try them out with the wheel.
I put the rotation degree at 360°... comments?

https://i.imgur.com/VuT2AAs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xHEpkjF.jpg

[Cam]

I look forward to reading your complaints about it. ;):up:

[Rare White Ape]

:lol:

[Blerpa]

So far so good.
360° may be too much for F1 cars in F1 2020, tho.

[JoeW]

I just got a Fanatec PS4 starter set and a Playseat lounge chair. Haven't raced in over 3yrs. Decided to hop back into GTSport and get familiar with it again.

[Blerpa]

Playseat Challenge? I look forward to hear any thoughts about it.

[JoeW]

I love it. Comfortable and folds up for easy storage. Whoever designed it is a genius.

[balki]

I don't know anything about the subject: can some one recommend a rocking/floor chair or brand?
Just for general use (TV/controller gaming, no wheel/pedals). Currently using multiple pillow to create a wedge.

[FaultyMario]

Didn't someone in the old forums say that a sex pillow was actually a pretty good investment for gaming?


https://cdn.chv.me/images/thumbnails/Sex-Toys-Pillow-Wedge-1yVwRCeI.jpeg.thumb_800x800.jpg

[Blerpa]

I find 360° too wide for F1 2020.
Anyone has data on what ratio they use in real F1 cars, aside from peculiar places like Monaco?
At times it really feels like I would lock the ratio down to full 180° and be done with it!

[Freude am Fahren]

Looking at onboards from exiting the garage, it does look like they use about 360 degrees.

But it's hard to say that the lock-to-lock of the actual steering is the same in the game, so I'd use what feels comfortable.

[Rare White Ape]

Whenever I set my steering I just make sure my real hands match the movement of the onscreen hands.

[Kchrpm]

The GT World Challenge America eSports series is back up, and our man Bryan is back in eGodzilla!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHYUOEclifG/

https://scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/123940066_354718932497667_2955557381353414363_n.jp g?_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=ZKr2hdgUZPIAX__tz5t&_nc_tp=24&oh=c16d14698c4724af156c90933f514d30&oe=5FD2CFEE

Race starts at about 40 minutes in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSVAy-KoquA

[Rare White Ape]

Nice!

And with some sponsorship too I see.

[Cam]

:cool: Sweet. I was wondering when he would be back behind the virtual wheel. :D

[Kchrpm]

I'm going to make a statement here and hold myself to it, so that I don't give in to a random flight of fancy:

I will not buy a new console unless it has a quality racing sim that allows mid-race driver swaps.

[Kchrpm]

Spa 6 Hours stream is up, currently in GT4 qualifying.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJXNu3-Fmpc

[FaultyMario]

Thanks, Keith.

[Blerpa]

Brian is teamed up with Tanner Foust? Woah.

[Rare White Ape]

I will not buy a new console unless it has a quality racing sim that allows mid-race driver swaps.

ACC allows that, it’s quality, and it probably runs very well on the new hardware.

[Kchrpm]

My understanding from Googling is that driver swaps are currently only available on PC for ACC, as they require making server settings adjustments.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S1tKDWT7bQnEQ2TtH9495vbz4Yt3WBUTY8ynQwlvCuA/edit

[Rare White Ape]

Oh I didn't know that.

It doesn't seem very user-friendly.

[Rare White Ape]

Spa 6 Hours stream is up, currently in GT4 qualifying.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJXNu3-Fmpc

Bryan hasn't had a very good race. It's been wet since the start and their car has been through multiple incidents, so they are at the back 5 laps down.

[Cam]

Oof. Tough luck.

[Rare White Ape]

ACC ver. 1.6 + 2020 DLC out now: Imola circuit, 2020 488 GT3 Evo, 2020 AMG GT3 Evo, new tyre model for all seasons, plus new 2020 Pirelli DHE tyres for 2020 season cars, and updated AI and aero physics.

All at the cost of two really good cups of coffee.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj_r0yGwlZo&ab_channel=ChrisHaye

[Rare White Ape]

You might be fully into the adrenaline-addled consumerist festival that is Black Friday, or you may not. Either way, some Fanatec stuff will be going cheap-cheap-cheap starting tomorrow, with a modest list of products earning a 20% off discount.

https://boostedmedia.net/fanatec-sim-racing-discount-codes-sale-tracker/

I highly recommend the CSL Elite F1 bundle. It’s PS4 and PC compatible but Xbox users can make use of it by attaching an Xbox compatible wheel rim. It’s the perfect starting point if you want to upgrade from a cheap crappy wheel.

Buy it, then over time add a load cell brake, a shifter, additional wheel rims, etc.



* Note if you follow the links from that website they get an affiliate kickback. You could either support them or just go via the Fanatec website directly once the sales go live.

[CudaMan]

Thanks for the continued support guys! I've been away from home for like 6 weeks (visiting the gf on the other side of the country - if I'm going to drive out there and back instead of fly, I might as well make it an extended visit) so I haven't checked in. Meanwhile some things are indeed starting to happen with regards to support and teammates. After my success in the first GT Rivals season, with esports being the only racing going on during initial lockdown, Chris Forsberg Racing reached out to me about doing some things with them as they expand beyond the world of drifting. We got a few partnerships going for esports (as seen on the virtual GT-R this season) and more stuff is in the works. Exciting times!

I ran the first round at Ricmotech's shop in the Miami area, masks and gloves and all. Killer rig they have! I only had a little time to practice and I didn't realize that ACC had made physics changes since the first GT Rivals season, so my setup was definitely out of date and too loose.

The Spa enduro was trouble all the way pretty much. :) A lack of ability to prepare really put us on the back foot, plus Tanner and DJ didn't know ACC and I was working on helping them get it set up while I was away from my computer, going from memory. I didn't get home from FL until late at night before the race. We didn't test in rain and only DJ managed to find time for any real practice in the dry. I winged it in qualy with no wet practice. Given that I was stoked to be knocking on the door of the podium spots in my first stint. I tangled with a car I couldn't see as it rejoined the track suddenly, but continued on with minimal impact from the damage. We had technical problems on top of that - things like the sim software sneaking dry tires on the car during a couple pit stops, driver change requests not working, etc. Whenever I wasn't in the car I was tech support and research more than a spotter/engineer. :lol:

Hoping for a more straightforward race at Monza on Dec 6 now that I can practice!

[Rare White Ape]

God damn, the Spa race was more of a CF than I realised :lol:

But, as Valentino Rossi says, is racing.

I'm happy to see you still active with motorsports professionals. Hopefully it leads to something on a grander scale.

Like, I dunno. A drive at the Bathurst 12 hour, maybe...?

[Cam]

Great to hear from you and that things are looking up! :cool:

[Rare White Ape]

Steam has heaps of games on sale this weekend including a pile of great sims. If you were on the fence about a game then now is the time to buy it and give it a go on a good discount.

[Tom Servo]

Wonder how much they'll charge for this bad boy. Their F1 wheel is already going for $1,800, I'm guessing this'll be closer to 3k?

https://bmw.fanatec.com/

[Rare White Ape]

Well that’s an industry first.

Either way, whatever the price may be it’ll be the cheapest real-life wheel available anywhere!

[Rare White Ape]

Look at what is coming to AMS2 before the end of the year :)

https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/1066890/view/2903096023505099595

If you don't already own this game I suggest you think seriously about getting it.

[Kchrpm]

Oh my...

[Kchrpm]

Bryan @ Monza in another SRO E-Sports America race


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCIghGsiyac

[CudaMan]

Got that podium finally. :up: Had some time to prep for this one. I worked hard on the setup, found some things and felt good about it. But qualifying pace was way off the others even though I was only 0.150 off my all time PB. I felt like I had good race pace but was constantly stuck behind slower or battling cars. I was down on top speed to the others in spite of maximizing the setup for top end speed, and I was basically a sitting duck on the straights and I couldn't overtake. Seems the GT-R may have become even less competitive with the latest updates. I'll keep digging.

[Cam]

You were too fast in it. :rolleyes: :lol:

[Kchrpm]

Got that podium finally. :up: Had some time to prep for this one. I worked hard on the setup, found some things and felt good about it. But qualifying pace was way off the others even though I was only 0.150 off my all time PB. I felt like I had good race pace but was constantly stuck behind slower or battling cars. I was down on top speed to the others in spite of maximizing the setup for top end speed, and I was basically a sitting duck on the straights and I couldn't overtake. Seems the GT-R may have become even less competitive with the latest updates. I'll keep digging.

As everyone around you crumbled, you held fast! Monza leads to craziness and that race was no exception.

Hopefully they give you a BOP boost, let Godzilla actually have a chance to eat again.

[CudaMan]

Not gonna happen. :) It's a legacy car and the manufacturer is no longer a partner of the series. Can't have it winning all the time. :)

I jumped in the Merc for a half hour to satisfy my curiosity the other day. The default Aggressive setup has quite a bit of mid-corner understeer, I made it a little better and got down to a time about 1 tenth off my PB in the GT-R (and faster than I qualified for the above race). If I spent hours on the Mercedes optimizing it and optimizing my driving for it, there are at least 3 tenths in there, maybe a half second. This result doesn't surprise me though. :)

[Rare White Ape]

Just curious, the organisers have been keeping all pro drivers in their real-life cars. What happens with you if the Nismo is grandfathered out and you can't drive it anymore?

[CudaMan]

No idea! I guess I'm kind of a special case: not an active pro driver, almost an esports sim racer, but neither really.

[Tom Servo]

I picked up a new wheel from Fanatec when they had their black friday sale, I think it was something like 20% off. Got the standard PS4-compatible CSL Elite base and the BMW GT2 wheel with it. Was still expensive as fuck even with the discount.

That said, it's a hell of a step up from the G27. Wheel feels great, the ffb is vastly improved, and it's also much, much quieter. Even the clamp to hold it to the desk is a major step up from the G27.

'Course, turns out it doesn't help me drive any better, still stunk up the joint on Assetto Corsa. At least it felt nicer to be bad at driving.

I am looking forward to getting another RJ12 cable again so I can just connect my pedals directly to the wheel base. Saving a USB port is not a minor thing these days.

[JoeW]

That's the base I have as well. I love it. I am more consistent than I was with the G29.

[Tom Servo]

A side effect of this too is that it's a lot easier to stow everything away when I'm not using it now that I can take the wheel off of the base. Also, I feel cool as fuck attaching and removing the wheel.

[Rare White Ape]

Awesome, that's the wheel I have too :up:

Did you get the whole starter kit or just the wheel base and the BMW rim?

[Cam]

Jeez, I can't afford that shizzle. :(

I have to stick with the G27 I got for free. :)

[Tom Servo]

Awesome, that's the wheel I have too :up:

Did you get the whole starter kit or just the wheel base and the BMW rim?

I already had the clubsport v3 pedals, so I just got the base and the wheel. Might get the shifter down the line, i already miss it in some cars. Feels odd to heel toe with a paddle shifter.

[FaultyMario]

Jeez, I can't afford that shizzle. :(


You are not alone, babe!

[Rare White Ape]

I already had the clubsport v3 pedals, so I just got the base and the wheel. Might get the shifter down the line, i already miss it in some cars. Feels odd to heel toe with a paddle shifter.

Oh yeah the shifter is a must. Old cars rise to the next level when you can drive them properly, and it makes Assetto that much better.

[Tom Servo]

When I last tried F1 2019, the G27 thrashed violently on straightaways for no discernible reason. I was told that the fix was to (paraphrasing) "get a wheel that's not so ancient". Took it out for a spin with this wheel and the force feedback is almost non-existent. Now I get to search for a new fix!

Also, not sure who decided the default should be to use the entire rotation, but the first chicane at Monza is damn near impossible when you have to turn the wheel end over end like a bus driver.