This is the thread where I say things and maybe other people say things too

[dodint]

Want to have a meal (or whatever) with Ash and I on March 10 or 11? We're staying with some friends in Palm Coast and can cruise up your way if you're around.

We really ought to meet up at least once every 16 years. ;)

[drew]

Absolutely. I'll send my number via FB.

We're not doing shit, so either/or/and will work :)

16 years, goddamn.

[dodint]

Yeah, jfc, we are old. ;)

[speedpimp]

WTF were you supposed to mark???

Orange cone is what some companies use. She probably ran right over it though.

[2ndMoparMan]

Scary to think about how long some of us have been around these forums, drew and Trep.

[Cam]

Scary? I think it's wonderful. :)

[speedpimp]

Almost 17 years here.

[Godson]

17 years this month for me. 0_0

[dodint]

Dec 98 for me, so it'll be 19 years this year. My earliest memories are more with EZGTChat, though. Where is jp, anyway?

[Sad, little man]

Probably pissed off somewhere.

I would like to thank this community for continually having boards which allow usernames with both a space and a comma.

[novicius]

He's happily married to a very cute girl. Doesn't need us anymore. :lol: :up:

[dodint]

I didn't lose contact with him that long ago, he wanted to come to our wedding...which was 7 years ago. Derp.

[Kchrpm]

He's happily married to a very cute girl. Doesn't need us anymore. :lol: :up:

#goals

[Cam]

Evidenced by the fact he's disappeared from my friends lists. :(

[Phil_SS]

I think that is more due to him now being on Playstation. Unless you have a real life friends list. :)

[Kchrpm]

I used to be friends with him on Facebook, many moons ago. Now I don't see him on there at all, friend or no.

[Jason]

#goals

You want to ditch us for a woman?

:(

[balki]

#goals = Corvette, which he'll give a woman's name

[Cam]

I meant on XBL and FB.

[Kchrpm]

You want to ditch us for a woman?

:(

I don't want to need you, I just want to want you.

[MR2 Fan]

Long-time trainer and fitness guru on "The Biggest Loser" TV show, Bob Harper suffers a massive heart attack, being unconscious for 2 full days...

Quite some irony there, but then again, he is recovering and not dead, so that says something I guess

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/biggest-loser-star-bob-harper-recovering-heart-attack-article-1.2983535

[Cam]

Simply being too dehydrated can cause a heart attack.

[novicius]

You don't say...? #sipwater

[George]

*pulls brown paper bag containing bottle of Colt 45 malt liquor from desk drawer for a refreshing guzzle*

(you know, just to stay hydrated)

[MR2 Fan]

:up:

[21Kid]

I meant on XBL and FB.

He ditched FB, from what I know...
He changed his name on XBL to J Bake On. I think someone dared him, and paid for it. He's still around... usually watching Netflix. He's on steam quite a bit now though.
I don't have him on PSN though.

[Alan P]

Has anyone heard from nickeldime recently? I just want to know he's doing OK!

[speedpimp]

Has anyone heard from nickeldime recently? I just want to know he's doing OK!

His most recent uploads to Flickr were two months ago.

[MR2 Fan]

I want to know how they come up with the names for the housing/apartment complexes. They always seem to have a random mix of 2 words like "Walnut Run" or "Antelope Orchard" (ok, I just made those up).

Is it like two dart boards with names, or is it like a slot machine where they just roll two wheels and come up with a name?

Anyway, I want that job.

[speedpimp]

They probably use a firm that comes up with a name that just rolls off the tongue and gives a pleasant image.

[JoshInKC]

My favorite of those names are the ones which either make zero sense - "Cedar Bluffs" on a flat treeless plain, or the ones which actually remove their referent - "Foxwoods" cut down most of the trees to build the house, etc.

[G'day Mate]

I need to read this thread more.

[dodint]

My favorite of those names are the ones which either make zero sense - "Cedar Bluffs" on a flat treeless plain, or the ones which actually remove their referent - "Foxwoods" cut down most of the trees to build the house, etc.

I saw a nautical themed place, complete with lighthouse imagery on their sign, in a Pittsburgh suburb.

[Godson]

My favorite of those names are the ones which either make zero sense - "Cedar Bluffs" on a flat treeless plain, or the ones which actually remove their referent - "Foxwoods" cut down most of the trees to build the house, etc.

Kansas City is notorious for this shit.

[novicius]

Found a DIY Electric Car forum today... aaand I'm surprised at how right-wing it is. Hardcore climate change denial and everything. :twitch:

If so, why bother??

[tigeraid]

:lol:

[MR2 Fan]

Found a DIY Electric Car forum today... aaand I'm surprised at how right-wing it is. Hardcore climate change denial and everything. :twitch:

If so, why bother??

"We'll invite libtards, then 'lectrocute 'em!"

[Random]

Found a DIY Electric Car forum today... aaand I'm surprised at how right-wing it is. Hardcore climate change denial and everything. :twitch:

If so, why bother??

Screw the gov't (no gas taxes).

Screw Big Business (no gas purchases).

Sticking it to The Man is very ultra-right wing, IMO.

[speedpimp]

I was surprised by how many Priuses/Priusi I saw with Trump decals on them.

[Cam]

I just recently chatted with one of Lori's colleagues, Michael, about his neighbour who was considering putting solar panels on his house. Michael mentioned something about the environment and the neighbour's response was something to the effect of, "Oh I don't care about that shit. It's all about me." (Saving money on power costs.) :rolleyes:

[speedpimp]

Oof.

[Drachen596]

selfishness will prompt more 'green' energy installs than ecological care.

A very large number of people care about saving money more than plants or animals.

[dodint]

Many EVs were sold to get HOV stickers in CA. Lets not kid ourselves.

[21Kid]

And if saving the environment is a side-effect... So be it. :D

[Drachen596]

I sent a message to an exs facebook account like 2 weeks ago. This is an ex i talk to fairly often through other means. which makes the reply of 'who is this' pretty amusing. Conversation goes back and forth a bit with 'who are you' and replies of if you were the woman in the photos whose name is on the page you'd know.

Replies shut down immediately when i accuse the person of being exs husband.

[Yw-slayer]

Pics or GTFO?

[G'day Mate]

Of the husband? You're weird.

[speedpimp]

Different spanks for different banks.

[Yw-slayer]

Maybe both?

[Sad, little man]

My life has turned into that part in Fight Club where Marla keeps showing up everywhere and ruining everything, with no prospects of it moving beyond that stage.

Fuck.

[Cam]

:lol:

:(

[speedpimp]

Got to work this morning and found out I didn't have my normal truck. That didn't make me happy because I had left my dirty work shirts in it, I'm off tomorrow and tomorrow is laundry pick up day. Oh well looks like I'll bring it home Weds and do some laundry.

[Cam]

I unknowingly met the guitarist from a very well-known and successful rock band last week. Our landlords are going to sell the place we currently rent after we move. He looked at the place twice. I would not have known who he was if the real estate agent had not told me. He seemed like a cool guy with a nice family.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Hootie_%26_the_Blowfish_Hootie_%26_the_Blowfish_CD _cover.JPG

[Godson]

That's pretty cool

[21Kid]

:cool: Neat!

[Drachen596]

Getting really tired of being setup to be the bad guy when it comes to my mothers healthcare.

[Leon]

Rally car I was in the passenger seat of went down a bank earlier today.

We missed a bunch of upright railway irons (holding a wall up) by *this* much, and were stopped from going down a fucking big bank by a wire fence.

So that was interesting.

[Cam]

:eek: Glad you are OK.

[Leon]

Yup, no harm done to driver or co driver.

Quite a bit of harm done to the car, but they'll fix it.

[Freude am Fahren]

Reading some reviews for an LED flashlight on amazon...

Q:How well does this flashlight go through dark tint?
A:If you throw it hard enough it will break right through.

Q: There's a picture of it on a bike in the ad - does anker provide any way to do that or is it basically a duct tape job?
A: As far as I know they don't make any bike mounts. But duct tape is always the correct answer. If you ever think duct tape is not the correct answer... go get more duct tape.

[drew]

:lol:

Leon, glad you're unscathed, albeit, I'm sure in need of some new underwear.

[novicius]

Rally car I was in the passenger seat of went down a bank earlier today.

We missed a bunch of upright railway irons (holding a wall up) by *this* much, and were stopped from going down a fucking big bank by a wire fence.

So that was interesting.
:lol:

A pants-shitting good time was had by all. :up: :up:

[Leon]

Nah, apparently I have no sense of self preservation.

I went out in another car about 30 minutes later.

It would seem that I have mild whiplash, despite wearing a HANS device, which disappoints me badly.

[Random]

Side forces, possibly. HANS isn't great at those.

[FaultyMario]

So you could have snapped your neck had you not wear the Hans?

[speedpimp]

moment of levity
Try wearing a Franz device too because a HANS and FRANZ device will PUMP YOU UP!
/moment of levity

Hope you feel better Leon.

[JoshInKC]

Or you could try a Frantz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frantz_Fanon) device and fight against racist colonial imperialism.

[Leon]

So you could have snapped your neck had you not wear the Hans?

Nope, driver had no HANS device, and was in similar amounts of discomfort to me (nothing major). So I think the angle must just have been not quite right for the HANS to have changed the outcome significantly

However, this in no way reduces my willingness to keep wearing my HANS device :)

[Random]

It's too bad Isaac wasn't able to lobby their way into SFI/FIA certification. :|

http://www.isaacdirect.com/

[Leon]

403 forbidden link

[Random]

Peculiar. Works here.

[Sad, little man]

I'm inexplicably really enthralled by someone who looks to have maybe 20-30 distinct tattoos, including neck, hand, and finger lettering... This can't end well.

[dodint]

Two part question:

You have to, starting right now, give up cheese or orgasms for the rest of your life, which is it?

Same scenario, but you get to delay the decision to a certain age, what age and which choice?

[FaultyMario]

Cheese, 42.

[drew]

I like cheese, but it doesn't give me the same feeling...

So, cheese, now.

[novicius]

Ouch! Cheese whipped! :lol:

[Godson]

Cheese. Now.

[dodint]

I've seen people rationalize that there will come a point when you don't care for the latter and will want to spend your twilight years eating cheese instead.

I think I'll want the release much longer than my body will allow me to digest cheese.

Short debate, then.

[novicius]

Question: can I have the endorphins released into my brain via syringe instead?

[dodint]

"Chasing the Dragon"

[drew]

If they sold oxytocin in syringes, two things would happen:

1: That company's net worth would rival all governments on the planet, combined.
2: Not a goddamn thing else


It'd be a world of "O" faces. Someone should get on that shit.


I've seen people rationalize that there will come a point when you don't care for the latter and will want to spend your twilight years eating cheese instead.

I think I'll want the release much longer than my body will allow me to digest cheese.

Short debate, then.

The morning I don't wake up with a kick stand, I'll take that into consideration. But as long as there's lead in the pencil, I was put on this earth to doodle.

[novicius]

Drew, you have been unemployed since the Housing Market Crash -- why are you not in Google Hangout chat every day?? #drewisms

[balki]

Google Hangout vs non-Google doodle, which would you choose?

as for the original question, give up cheese in a month (cheese overload ensues for 30 days)
edit: shit, pizza and calzones have cheese (even cheese fries aren't that hard to give up).
Still giving up cheese, maybe in two or three months instead

[dodint]

Yeah, cheese is in a lot of stuff. Like cheeseburgers.

And alfredo sauce.

[FaultyMario]

I could have an all meat and sauce pizza for all I care.

[Freude am Fahren]

I'm lactose intolerant. It was at its worst in my late teens, early 20's. So cheese probably prevented me from being able to get quite a few orgasms. Fuck cheese.

[speedpimp]

I made the decision last Jan. at age 45.

[dodint]

You're...a eunuch?

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[GB]

Fuck cheese.

Wait... is that a 3rd option??

[drew]

How do you think Swiss cheese is made?

[Jason]

That's an impossible question Nate, and I hate you for asking it.

[dodint]

I actually have a really long and well considered answer but I'll wait a few days.

The short answer is abandon the cheese.

[speedpimp]

You're...a eunuch?

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

I prefer the term "unique", thank you very much.

[speedpimp]

Went back to the doctor on Tues, I weighed in at 222.2 lbs. BP was 118/76. I've came up with three weight goals. The first(getting down to 200 lbs) is very attainable. The second(182 lbs, half my starting body weight lost) and third(164 lbs, 200 lbs lost) are more for some sort of weird ego fulfillment.

[dodint]

I have similar staged goals. I'm actively trying to get to 240. I'd like to get to my last marathon weight, around 225. And I'm going to see if I can get down to 200, the lowest weight I ever achieved as an adult, the day I graduated boot camp.

At 280 now, down from 300. Lost the first 20 fast but I've been hovering at 280 for over a month.

[speedpimp]

You can do it, Nate.

[Yw-slayer]

The aim is to be 170lb with 12% body fat by late May.

[Godson]

My goal is 170 with BMI (bullshit measurement) of 19 %. That would put me right back to where I was when I had my accident last year.

[Yw-slayer]

That's probably very similar to me.

[tigeraid]

It's interesting, BMI vs Visual vs Personal Reality, no? I was 285-290 lbs, lost 100 lbs, now I hover between 195 and 200. Over the winter I crept back up to 203 and I'm looking forward to running again, to hopefully burn some of that back off.

But according to the BMI I'm still "overweight", close to obese, at 195 lbs and 5'11. Yet I can go jog 7km around my concession and feel pretty good, and I've improved my health in a zillion other ways. I have the stretchy post-weight loss skin here and there but I've done a decent job of firming it up, I've packed on a little muscle. Everyone I talk to says "BMI is bullshit, just ignore it"... But then wtf do we have it for?

It's odd how obsessed I am with the magical "190 lb" number, and it remains my goal to MAINTAIN it, even though I only hit it once or twice last year. I THINK I feel healthier at that weight, but really, do I feel any different at 200? :twitch:

[balki]

"BMI is bullshit, just ignore it"... But then wtf do we have it for?
Because it's easy to measure and because skinny (low fat AND low muscle) people live typically longest.
Considering how general it is it ain't that bad. If you're athletic you probably already know better than to rely on an overly simplified measure like that (a 3% body fat bodybuilder can be considered extremely obese on the BMI index)
So yeah, it's bullshit, but for the mindless masses it has some use (waist-to-height ratio may be a slightly better general measurement)

[dodint]

Because it's easy to measure and because skinny (low fat AND low muscle) people live typically longest.
Considering how general it is it ain't that bad. If you're athletic you probably already know better than to rely on an overly simplified measure like that (a 3% body fat bodybuilder can be considered extremely obese on the BMI index)
So yeah, it's bullshit, but for the mindless masses it has some use (waist-to-height ratio may be a slightly better general measurement)

Do like the Marines. Measure your height, measure your waist, measure your neck. Subtract the neck from the waist. Compare to an arbitrary(?) number on a chart that matches your height.

It's scientific because it has numbers. It's not silly at all.

[Jason]

Went back to the doctor on Tues, I weighed in at 222.2 lbs. BP was 118/76. I've came up with three weight goals. The first(getting down to 200 lbs) is very attainable. The second(182 lbs, half my starting body weight lost) and third(164 lbs, 200 lbs lost) are more for some sort of weird ego fulfillment.

Why 164lbs? Is it just to hit the magical 200 lost number, or has that been determined as your healthy weight?

[balki]

Certainly better, but thats even more measurements than waist-to-height ratio which itself requires more work than the BMI (you know how lazy people are).
(Because of BMI even the Marines think 140lb for a 6'0" guy is okay, jeez that's a lean Marine)

[TheBenior]

Do like the Marines. Measure your height, measure your waist, measure your neck. Subtract the neck from the waist. Compare to an arbitrary(?) number on a chart that matches your height.

It's scientific because it has numbers. It's not silly at all.

That's what got my cousin into the Coast Guard without losing weight first. He was definitely packing more around the waist then he should've, but he's always had an enormous neck which balanced out that measurement.



(Because of BMI even the Marines think 140lb for a 6'0" guy is okay, jeez that's a lean Marine)
I went to the academy with a Marine who had those measurements :lol:

[balki]

Something I can't quite get: a size 40 suit comes with 34" waist pants (33" or even 32" for the slim fit ones), yet dress shirts' measurements around the waist are typically 40-44"
I understand you need some slack for bending+twisting, but even slim, very slim, ultra slim, .... American shirts get nowhere close to the waist of the pants
Is it similar in Europe and Asia?

[Cam]

You can purchase slim or athletic cut shirts if you look hard enough.

[tigeraid]

I bought my first-ever "slim fit" shirt over the winter. Feels reel gud. :rawk:

[balki]

You can purchase slim or athletic cut shirts if you look hard enough.
I have various variations of "slim, very slim, ultra slim" (and modern fit) shirts, most of them are noticeably bigger around the waist compared to a suit jacket. Only ones that are close are two sizes too small. I know the fancy European brands have a much narrower cut, but I ain't paying $35-85/shirt during a clearance sale.
The regular fit ones are like flying squirrel suits (seems like the baggy size of the 90's never left the budget dress shirt's cut)

[Alan P]

Why must she blow so hot and cold!?

She talks about not getting to see Lego Batman at the cinema, so suggest if she wants to go I'll go with her and she thanks me. Then goes to see it by herself. Then I get a kiss on the cheek for simply giving her some candy. Then it's a hug at the supermarket when I see her and she asks what I'm doing this weekend. She goes away for the same weekend (and doesn't mention it to me) with some of her friends and when I ask her if she enjoyed it she says that it would have been more enjoyable with better company. So we chat over email about the cinema and what films are coming out she wants to see and then she goes cold on me and stops responding. WOMEN!

[speedpimp]

Why 164lbs? Is it just to hit the magical 200 lost number, or has that been determined as your healthy weight?

Yes it is the magic number for 200 lbs lost. In a sane reality I should be happy with 200(which should be my healthy weight) and leave it at that. The blood pressure is excellent, I had a shitload of blood work done and a CT scan of the stomach done and everything came back negative. So it meant that just between work and watching what I was eating I lost fifty last year, which came as a huge surprise.

[Leon]

Why must she blow so hot and cold!?

She talks about not getting to see Lego Batman at the cinema, so suggest if she wants to go I'll go with her and she thanks me. Then goes to see it by herself. Then I get a kiss on the cheek for simply giving her some candy. Then it's a hug at the supermarket when I see her and she asks what I'm doing this weekend. She goes away for the same weekend (and doesn't mention it to me) with some of her friends and when I ask her if she enjoyed it she says that it would have been more enjoyable with better company. So we chat over email about the cinema and what films are coming out she wants to see and then she goes cold on me and stops responding. WOMEN!

As my phone told me through auto-correct.

Birches be crazy.

[MR2 Fan]

As my phone told me through auto-correct.

Birches be crazy.

not as crazy as the Larch..............Theeeeee Laaaarrcchhhhh

[novicius]

Why must she blow so hot and cold!?

She talks about not getting to see Lego Batman at the cinema, so suggest if she wants to go I'll go with her and she thanks me. Then goes to see it by herself. Then I get a kiss on the cheek for simply giving her some candy. Then it's a hug at the supermarket when I see her and she asks what I'm doing this weekend. She goes away for the same weekend (and doesn't mention it to me) with some of her friends and when I ask her if she enjoyed it she says that it would have been more enjoyable with better company. So we chat over email about the cinema and what films are coming out she wants to see and then she goes cold on me and stops responding. WOMEN!
She had a few fish on the line and got a better offer (in her opinion) somewhere else? #ghosted

[dodint]

Edd China Is Leaving Wheeler Dealers Because Velocity Wants To Make The Show Worse http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fjalopnik.com%2Fedd-china-is-leaving-wheeler-dealers-because-velocity-w-1793498487%2Famp&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEcUvaxmCk8hwfnUf2uXrO4xoJ31g

Why the fuck can't we have nice things? I've been watching this show for years and it's effectively over now. Not impressed, but I admire Edd for standing on principle.

[Phil_SS]

Agreed. I read that yesterday and was generally pissed. The show will probably be off the air in a year and the officials for the channel will be dumbfounded as to why that happened. Aka, Edd is the show, not Mike.

Dumbasses!

Can't wait to watch Edd's new show. Cause it will happen.

[MR2 Fan]

reminds me of when Fast Lane Daily was bought by /Drive (IIRC) and was subsequently cancelled. What's the use of joining a bigger company then?

I liked the idea that Youtube shows are mostly independent, but it seems like a lot of them are now getting pushed into larger companies and get screwed in the process.

[Kchrpm]

Get good, get big, get bought, get bad, get cancelled, repeat.

[MR2 Fan]

I had a great weekend, my father and I drove from Florida to Miami-Ohio University for my cousin's wedding. My family is from a small town near Philadelphia...

My cousin is a very cool guy, and being outgoing that he is, he decided to ask a fellow alum to attend his wedding, Brandon Brooks, a guard for the Philadelphia Eagles, and he said he would attend, even though they never met before.

This was covered in the Washington Post, on several Philadelphia and Eagles fan websites, it was even covered on the local TV news in Ohio:


https://www.facebook.com/jed.demuesy/videos/10103673253397618/

https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/17426314_10107730787646400_720389425590940020_n.jp g?oh=4e14c148f42e97d9a5bd87cdc20e400c&oe=59537972

[novicius]

:lol: :up:

[21Kid]

Awesome! :lol:

[MR2 Fan]

People from Boston annoy me.

Any other city, people are like "I'm a Chicago Bears fan" or "I'm a NY Yankees fan"

...people from Boston are like "ZOMG, CELTICS, BRUINS, RED SOX, PATRIOTS RULE!!!!!"

like, just calm the f- down. I wonder what would happen if there were 2 NFL teams or 2 MLB teams in Boston, those people would probably have an aneurysm.

[Kchrpm]

In what situation were they yelling in support for their team?

[dodint]

Church.

[drew]

Ordering Starbucks.


"PATRIOTS!!"

[Cam]

"COCKS!"

(USC's basketball teams did very well recently.)

[drew]

:lol:

[speedpimp]

Had a new rubber roof installed in the fall of '06. A few weeks ago I noticed so discoloration on the ceiling but the ceiling tiles weren't soft or tacky. So I painted over the discolored areas. This past weekend I checked the areas again, no discoloration but the tiles were soft. I measured from the window to the area where it is soft, measured the same distance on the outside of the house, pulled out the step ladder and climbed up high enough so that I could touch the roof and the plywood under the rubber was soft as well. Had someone come out today that does roofing on mobile homes, he climbed up on the roof and noticed that things that should've had flashing put around them ten years ago hadn't, they had only been caulked. The cause of the soft roof was due to the roofer not removing the chimney assembly for the fire place, laying down a single sheet of rubber, cutting a hole for the chimney and reinstalling it and then doing the flashing. He simply cut the rubber in two pieces and laid it around the chimney and then used a piece of metal called a termination bar to mate the two pieces of rubber. Only thing is in the ensuing ten years the rubber has shrunk a bit leading to the current situation. So here's to hoping for some dry weather so that they can complete the work in the next week or so.
I used a five foot aluminum step ladder and climbed up on the third rung and felt nervous as shit doing that. If there is one thing that I do not like, it is heights.
Anyways, onwards and upwards, or something like that.

[JoshInKC]

Just got an announcement for a new class this fall - Topics in Geographic Information Systems: Introduction to Drone Mapping.
Ought to be fun - learn to fly drones with someone else's equipment and get some maybe useful skills out of it.

[novicius]

Rich: no way to nail the original roofer on something like that, I suppose. :smh:

Josh: Nice! My business support team has to provide support to adjusters cleared/certified for drone use. Of course we all clamored for training and drones "for reference purposes". :lol:

[JoshInKC]

Yeah, it should be fun and if I can make friends with the drone possessors, I might be able to borrow them to get nice, clear aerial shots of digs in progress which will make presentations a little more interesting.
Hmmm. I wonder if anybody makes a >1 meter photo scale/north arrow.

[Random]

Just have an intern lay down and point.

FWIW, we've been using a lot of drone orthophotography at Oroville. They've also done a bunch of LIDAR surveying (also via drone) and produced 3D site models at a very high resolution. It's super cool stuff.

[JoshInKC]

Sadly, our undergrads are not of a standardized size. Lidar seems like it would be the bomb for landscape feature/form surveys - I'm not sure what exactly the Geography department has equipment-wise (when I was finishing up my geog minor, there was a single post-doc screwing with drones, and I'm not even sure if he's still around), but something that would do lidar would be perfect.

[speedpimp]

Carlo, the guy was in his early 70s when he installed the roof, I doubt he's in business anymore, if he's even still alive.

Guy came today and fixed what needed to be done.

[2ndMoparMan]

Fuck pollen. That is all.

[Alan P]

Sigh. Not sure if she's just playing hard to get or if she's just not interested but too polite to say so.

[MR2 Fan]

Burger King ad taking over Google Home devices.

http://www.spin.com/2017/04/people-are-expertly-trolling-the-whopper-wikipedia-page-over-this-dystopian-burger-king-ad/

First, I think this was really stupid of BK to try, but I also think it's a sign of something...where too much automation and technology is a bad thing. I don't own one of these devices and don't see a need for it...at least not one that's always linked to the internet. I've heard of similar issues with Alexa and the Xbox Kinect.

If I had a local "Jarvis" system that was offline unless I specifically requested outside data, that would be fine.

[Freude am Fahren]

If anyone has seen the new Pennzoil Commercial with the yellow Viper, that's filmed in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale, and everytime I see it, I laugh because of how much traffic there normally is in all of those areas. Also, I love going through that tunnel at full throttle in my bikes and car. Good times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrehQjsz5ck&ab_channel=Pennzoil

Also, I love the little RC camera units they used.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kdq-7AlfEc&ab_channel=Pennzoil

[dodint]

Don't go Viper. :(

[Freude am Fahren]

Burger King ad taking over Google Home devices.

http://www.spin.com/2017/04/people-are-expertly-trolling-the-whopper-wikipedia-page-over-this-dystopian-burger-king-ad/

First, I think this was really stupid of BK to try, but I also think it's a sign of something...where too much automation and technology is a bad thing. I don't own one of these devices and don't see a need for it...at least not one that's always linked to the internet. I've heard of similar issues with Alexa and the Xbox Kinect.

If I had a local "Jarvis" system that was offline unless I specifically requested outside data, that would be fine.

I just played the ad and it didn't work, then read that Google intervened and disabled the ad from being recognized. My home will light up, listen then just do nothing. I repeated the same words, and it worked. That is actually pretty neat that google appears to have made the home recognize that specific voice pattern. Overall, I think it's a pretty clever idea from BK, but I don't like that they edited Wikipedia to do it (which is against the rules).

But your point is spot on about too much automation and tech being bad.

I don't think it will be long until you can tell these things to respond only to your voice after doing a few calibration phrases.

[dodint]

I get the opposite. Sometimes when I'm driving and listening to podcats Android will stop playing the podcast and say "If you said something, I didn't understand it."

[Freude am Fahren]

Oh I get that too. I thought they were like key ad phrases the home was picking up on but they never actually do anything. Like nothing sounds like OK GOOGLE even.

[GreatScawt]

Goodness that Viper vid is boner-inducing.

[drew]

Of course it was Rhys Millen. :lol:


That video reminds me of the Ken Block Mustang video in LA. Boner, goosebumps, and goosebumps on your boner.

[Kchrpm]

Like nothing sounds like OK GOOGLE even.
From what I can tell it's just listening for ay-oo passively, you don't need any of the consonant sounds in there to activate it.

[Freude am Fahren]

From what I can tell it's just listening for ay-oo passively, you don't need any of the consonant sounds in there to activate it.

Yup. Just tried it, and it did exactly what I was talking about. Lights up, but doesn't respond without some consonants. "ay-oole" worked.

[Drachen596]

I realized that soon i'll have enough money to make some very bad decisions about motorcycles.

I wish a house that I like would show up for sale though.

[Alan P]

Sigh. Not sure if she's just playing hard to get or if she's just not interested but too polite to say so.

Well I found out.

[drew]

She used you like a pogo stick without the pedals?

[Godson]

I realized that soon i'll have enough money to make some very bad decisions about motorcycles.

I wish a house that I like would show up for sale though.

Accident insurance, full coverage, and good umbrella medical policy, or don't even fucking think about it.

[Cam]

Ride responsibly.

Alas, my bike got stolen after about 30,000 km (20,000 miles.) :( I went in for my first tire change after 12,000 km. The tech said, "How many km do you have on your tires?" I said, "12,000." His eyes went wide and he replied, "Jeez, I get 3,000 out of mine." :lol:

[novicius]

Drag more knee, Cam. :cool: :toast:

[Cam]

I admit it, my chicken strips were wide! :lol:

[drew]

:lol:

Holy hell. You have 50% more miles on your bike tires than I do with my car

[Drachen596]

I wouldn't go without full coverage insurance plus whatever they allow to add to my work health coverage.

Its mostly a moot point as I want(kinda need) to get a house so I have a secure garage to park it in, so that is still the higher priority.

[Sad, little man]

Is it just me, or does every picture ever taken of Elizabeth Holmes make her look like she's batshit insane?

[Drachen596]

Didn't know who that was off the top of my head.. google image search.

She looks BSC with some sort of Steve Jobs impersonation obsession. 90% of the images have her in a long sleeve black turtle neck.

[Kchrpm]

Her face is similar to a certain meme girl, the overly attached girlfriend or something, which could be why you associate her look with an insane one. To me she just looks like a young blonde woman with big eyes.

[speedpimp]

Turned in my uniforms at work because I was pretty much told to do so. Something about the super baggy pants and shirt. Traded in a 46 waist pant/3X shirt for a 40 waist/1X shirt.

[dodint]

Nice!

[speedpimp]

Thanks. Goal now is to just maintain where I am at. I came to my senses and realized that anything under 200 is a bit of a stretch.

[novicius]

:up: :up:

[Alan P]

My Grand Prix tickets have arrived! Whoop!

[Dicknose]

:lol:

Holy hell. You have 50% more miles on your bike tires than I do with my car

They are km, not miles, so it might not be that bad.
Ok, it is about what I got on my last car tyres (but won't get on this set)
And way more than I get on the bike (where I sometimes wear out the fronts quicker than the rears!)

[Drachen596]

Full Face motorcycle helmets are technically illegal in Louisana (http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2017/04/motorcycle_helmets_exempt_mask.html)

They fall under a law that says you can't wear a mask of any sort except for during Mardi Gras, Halloween or for religious reasons. I believe its an old law that got put into place to limit the KKKs activities in the state.


Oh and by the way, Louisiana is a helmet law state. Meaning that a helmet is mandatory.

[21Kid]

Shouldn't that be in the epic fail thread? ;)

[George]

This rant is almost a week late, which I guess means it didn't bother me nearly as much afterwards as it did at the time, but here goes anyway:

If there's an annual Easter Egg hunt for kids that begins at a neighborhood park at 7:30 AM on the Saturday morning before Easter, and...

If you live outside the neighborhood and your child is invited to come join the fun with school friends at their 7:30 AM Easter Egg hunt...

It is NOT okay for you and your family to show up at your child's friend's parents' house (people you haven't met yet), ring the doorbell at 6:50 AM, and expect everyone to be awake, dressed, have coffee and breakfast ready, and be glad to see you. :angry:

Militant early-birds are just as bad as people who are chronically late.

[Random]

As a habitual early-bird ("if you're early, you're on time!"), I can safely say that showing up 40 minutes early is excessive. ;)

[Leon]

Definitely not cool, in the context of making it a pre-7am arrival time.

[Cam]

Our new place has a steet light on the power pole in our back yard that is extra on our power bill. It was not working when we bought the place. Lori and I agreed that if we are paying for it, it better work. Lori called the power company to fix it. They sent someone out to replace the bulb and, man, it is bright; bright enough that our neighbours complained to the power company. :lol: A tech called this morning to ask when he could install a shield on it so it does not shine on the neighbours. Lori told them to just remove the light instead. :lol:

[Godson]

Ace

[21Kid]

Awfully quiet in here lately...

[mk]

Be a solution, produce more words.

[Alan P]

Hmm, Since I started going to the gym, she's perked up and shown some interest. Mind you it's only been two days but we're going to see GotG2 on Monday night after work and we have a Gym circuit class on Tuesday night that we're both booked into. She also said she's not confident of going to the gym by herself so I said I'd go with her, depending on work and she didn't dry heave or anything. Things may be looking up.

[MR2 Fan]

Hmm, Since I started going to the gym, she's perked up and shown some interest. Mind you it's only been two days but we're going to see GotG2 on Monday night after work and we have a Gym circuit class on Tuesday night that we're both booked into. She also said she's not confident of going to the gym by herself so I said I'd go with her, depending on work and she didn't dry heave or anything. Things may be looking up.

"Trainers HATE Him. Learn how he bulked up in the gym in TWO days and picked up a hot woman"

[George]

Today's episode stars Alan P as "Mac".

https://drawingscience.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/sand_3.jpg?w=545&h=824

[2ndMoparMan]

Got in a wreck today. Truck driver didn't see me in front of him attempting to make a left. He hit me in the driver's side fender and ripped off the bumper, put a pretty good sized dent in the fender, and very likely damaged the left front suspension. Thankfully I'm ok and the police determined the truck driver was at fault, so whatever insurance they have will cover, but I'm afraid they will total the car, and it being a 99 Altima with nearly 180k miles, I may not get that much. Also, I'm not hurt at all, but god damnit.

[Cam]

:(

[Alan P]

Frustrating and annoying, but after all, the car is just a thing and can be replaced. Glad you're ok!

And that guy who bulked up is a jerk. Just punched him for no real reason. And the chick LOVED it!

[Sad, little man]

Hell reserves a special place for people who request read receipts on work emails.

I never send back read receipts, so people are just left to assume I'm a jerk who doesn't read their emails. And good, fuck them.

[novicius]

:lol: :up:

[dodint]

A close cousin is the guy that marks all of his stuff Urgent. All of it.

[Sad, little man]

I went to cancel my old insurance today after I went with someone cheaper. The lady there asked me if I gave them a chance to review my policy to see if there was anything they could do. I said no, the price has been consistently going up, and I'm done with them.

...the fuck?? I've been giving you a chance for the last three years. You've steadily raised my rates, I'm done! And the idea that you would have lowered them if I would have threatened to go to another company only makes me trust you less.

[Drachen596]

Anyone seen the issue that Delta Airlines has now? Opinions?

[Kchrpm]

The seat transfer between kids thing? They were within their legal rights, but they should have made an exception, based on what I have read.

[MR2 Fan]

The seat transfer between kids thing? They were within their legal rights, but they should have made an exception, based on what I have read.

I'm just imagining all of the stuff that happened that went un-noticed (in general) before everyone had smartphone cameras.

Whether Delta was technically right, again, it's not the principle as much as how badly they handle the situation...threatening to be thrown in jail and kids going to foster homes....seriously??

[Freude am Fahren]

Yeah, Delta was being assholes. First of all, the ticket agent let them get on the plane using the 18y/o's ticket for the infant. And saying they couldn't have a 2 year old in a car seat was a lie. Once the family said they'd give up the seat anyway, and put the baby on their lap, as they had planned when they originally bought the tickets, they should have said fine and moved on.

The rules say the ticket isn't transferable, yeah, but they asked, and and Delta said sure. At that point, Delta shouldn't do anything about it.

And then how they handled it, about lying and threatening taking the kids away from them is just completely bullshit. I fly Delta mostly, and haven't had any problems, but this is pretty pathetic.

By the way, since Delta hasn't exactly given their side of the story, all we can go by is the video and the family's account.


And yeah, I think these thing may not be happening more, just we're seeing it more. Kinda like bad policing.

[Kchrpm]

Whoa, I didn't hear all that detail :(

[dodint]

And yeah, I think these thing may not be happening more, just we're seeing it more. Kinda like bad policing.

493,000+ people daily have uneventful flights on Delta. It's like anything else in life that deals with that kind of volume and repetition. Right now the new hotness is airlines doing bad things. Last year it was transgender bathrooms. Next year, who knows.

[Leon]

Wait, aren't the airline bathrooms anygender ;)

[MR2 Fan]

Wait, aren't the airline bathrooms anygender ;)

:eek:

I wonder if the right wingers realize that?

[Leon]

Even worse, planes don't just have a right wing. They have a left wing too ....

[speedpimp]

I got to work this morning and was greeted with "You called off. You're not coming in." Uh, no. I didn't call off. Turns out one of the guys that loads the trucks at night thought it would be funny to call in as "me" and say I was calling off of work for the day. When the night crew went to break the new guy was in the office doing whatever he does when the phone rang, he answered it and apparently it was me calling off of work for the second time this week. Actually it was one of the other guys calling from the parking lot. The guy that answered the phone told the night boss who called in the driver who was on call to cover for me. Considering that it was 3 am I'm pretty sure that he was more than annoyed when he walked in and saw me. When I got back from my route I talked to my boss and the owner. Neither was too happy with the situation and the owner said he was "taking steps" to ensure it doesn't happen again.


I called off Tuesday because Monday night I had two violent, system clearing "Thunder Dumps" within an hour of each other. After the second one it felt like something was stuck. As the night went on it felt as if I was getting a prostate exam. By the time I went to bed I couldn't sleep because of the fucking pain. I got up and headed off to work. When I hit one too many bumps, I called off work, turned around and headed directly for the ER. By that point it felt as if I had been having a prostate exam for twelve hours. As I was laying on the exam table the doctor came in and proceeded to do a real prostate exam. When you introduce fingers to an area where it feels like there are already fingers good things are not going to happen. I repeatedly uttered God's name and was damn near on the verge of tears. I ended up getting Morphine, Toradol(for the swelling) and Pepcid and something else to counter the upset stomach effects of the Morphine. Almost instantly things started feeling a lot better. They did blood work and a CAT scan. Everything came back negative. The official diagnosis was "stomach flu" which caused the root beer fountain out of my ass which led to the balloon knot being almost swollen shut. After five hours I was released with a suppository(those are no fun to insert), an antibiotic and Tramadol for any pain. When I got home I took one of the Tramadol and as the day went one I decided that there is no need to take them because it would be way too easy to like them.

[dodint]

:eek:

[Yw-slayer]

Damn, take care man, and I hope you have a speedy recovery.

[MR2 Fan]

so MTV's movie awards introduces a "gender neutral" category for best actor...

I'm quite progressive but I think this may be a bit too far and especially since your competition basically doubles for the award at that point.

Thoughts?

[speedpimp]

Damn, take care man, and I hope you have a speedy recovery.

Thanks. Recovery has been stick a suppository up my ass twice a day, take an antibiotic three times a day, and take a pain pill zero times a day. Seems to be a weird one off occurrence.

[Leon]

so MTV's movie awards introduces a "gender neutral" category for best actor...

I'm quite progressive but I think this may be a bit too far and especially since your competition basically doubles for the award at that point.

Thoughts?

It's all a self congratulatory circle jerk anyway, so I'm ragingly indifferent to their giant egos :)

[Kchrpm]

so MTV's movie awards introduces a "gender neutral" category for best actor...

I'm quite progressive but I think this may be a bit too far and especially since your competition basically doubles for the award at that point.

Thoughts?

It got them to be covered more than they would have otherwise.

[Freude am Fahren]

Wait, so do they have one acting category (per TV/drama/comedy/etc), or three? I'm okay with changing actor and actress to just actor (or acting person :rolleyes:). Do I think it's necessary? No, but whatever.

If they made a third category, that's just dumb. How would they even fill out the category every year.

[2ndMoparMan]

Just got my offer from the insurance. 2 grand is the best they can do. Fuck.

[Sad, little man]

Yeah, once I realized that the blue book on the Milan was only 2k at this point, I dropped the coverage down to liability only. It just doesn't seem worth it to pay so much in insurance on such a worthless car.

[George]

You rich kids and your $2K cars...

[21Kid]

It's all a self congratulatory circle jerk anyway, so I'm ragingly indifferent to their giant egos :)

+1

[novicius]

You rich kids and your $2K cars...
Fuckin'-A right! :lol: :up:

[mk]

Dang, I bought a Transit Custom 4-Oct-16.

At 1-Oct they launched a 5 year warranty.
I'm not complaining.

[SportWagon]

Last I heard you were driving an 8 year old Mitsubishi Galant. But then that was in about the year 2000.

[Godson]

I seriously fucking hate people who ignore well informed suggestions over literally life-threatening preventable injury.


I don't fucking understand it and all it does is fill me with rage.

[dodint]

Hell, it bothers me with mundane shit.

[Jason]

Thanks. Recovery has been stick a suppository up my ass twice a day, take an antibiotic three times a day, and take a pain pill zero times a day. Seems to be a weird one off occurrence.

The more you post, the less I look forward to getting old. :P

[Jason]

so MTV's movie awards introduces a "gender neutral" category for best actor...

I'm quite progressive but I think this may be a bit too far and especially since your competition basically doubles for the award at that point.

Thoughts?

I think it's the way to go, it covers any gender and doesn't cause problems with mis identification in rare cases. Also it's inclusive, and inclusivity matters when it comes to young people developing and growing up.

[MR2 Fan]

After being engaged since November and after just celebrating a 1 year anniversary of being together, my fiancee and I have split up.....yet somehow I'm relieved...I never expected to feel this way, so maybe there was more undercurrent of emotions I wasn't aware of. She was upset because I thought celebrating a 13th "monthiversary" was a bit silly and it just went downhill from there.

This is the girl I knew from our Philippines office and we went traveling to other parts of the Philippines and Japan together, but there were so many obstacles in the way of us actually getting married and living together (visa stuff, money, etc.) and she wanted to go back to college there.

I just feel relieved in general, and also, seeing as I've never been great with women...maybe this was validation that at least for some time, I was worthy, lol.

I have a major business idea that I'm working on involving 3D Printing which is going to take up a lot of my time anyway. Now I can focus on that more.

[Jason]

That's kinda how I look back on my relationships... at least for a time I was date-able. I'm not anymore, for whatever reason, but for a while I was, so not a complete failure :lol:

[Kchrpm]

but for a while I was, so not a complete failure :lol:
:(

[Cam]

Sorry to hear, MR2.

[Leon]

Hopefully long term, it turns out to be a good outcome for you dude.

[Yw-slayer]

Take care bro. It'll work out ok.

[novicius]

Stay busy, MR2. See friends. Travel a little bit if you can. :up: :up:

[MR2 Fan]

Yeah, I feel fine...oddly enough.

[GreatScawt]

That's kind of how I felt after breaking up with my girlfriend of 2 years when I was going to college. Once we broke up it was like this huge weight off my shoulders. It was one of those things that we probably both saw happening for a couple weeks leading up to it. It's not easy still, but the freedom to concentrate on yourself again is pretty nice.

[Leon]

When I broke up with my partner of, um, mayyybe 6 years or so, I was ecstatic (this was several years ago). But I knew with her that it had been going badly for many years, so I was relieved to be out of the situation.

[Godson]

My last exam was that way, we didn't date long, but she kept bitching about tiny shit.

We broke up because of a fight of cardboard boxes.


Dead serious.

[novicius]

She's trying to hammer you into shape, bud. ;)

[Godson]

Fuck that, if she has a borderline meltdown about a cardboard box, when I literally offered to hire a moving company, shit ain't right.

Just saying.

I'm not going to put myself in a position in which I have to think about my every action and how it could possibly affect her, especially on something completely unrelated to anything to do with her.

My mental sanity is worth more than a significant other.

[MR2 Fan]

Fuck that, if she has a borderline meltdown about a cardboard box, when I literally offered to hire a moving company, shit ain't right.

Just saying.

I'm not going to put myself in a position in which I have to think about my every action and how it could possibly affect her, especially on something completely unrelated to anything to do with her.

My mental sanity is worth more than a significant other.

:up:

[Drachen596]

I feel like I may be in the wrong for not feeling bad that this guy died in a car crash. (http://wane.com/2017/05/15/driver-found-dead-after-car-catches-fire-following-dekalb-county-crash/)I feel like I may be in the wrong for not feeling bad that this guy died in a car crash.

Googling the name finds something posted on Crimestoppers last year where he's wanted for violation of probation on an original charge of driving as a habitual traffic offender.

I feel sorry for those who may suffer as a result of his death either because he was a parent or source of income for their support but not for him.

[21Kid]

I don't think it's necessary to mourn every person's passing.

[dodint]

I don't think it's necessary to mourn every person's passing.

Having just peeked in and only read the last post I assumed you meant Chris Cornell. heh.

[speedpimp]

I worked 63 hrs last week and was really looking forward to having both Sat and Sun off this week. I wasn't home Friday for more than twenty minutes when my phone rang telling me that one of our drivers fell twice at the same customer and hurt himself, so he called off and the driver who was "on call" had "things to do"(get drunk) and couldn't come in, so they called me, and me being me said yes. It was an easy day with eight stops over 250 miles. So this week I ended up with 65 hrs. Who knows, maybe I'll hit 70 next week.

[Cam]

Dang, I hope you are getting overtime.

[Freude am Fahren]

The On-call guy had "things to do"? Isn't the whole point of being on-call that you nee to be available?

[speedpimp]

Dang, I hope you are getting overtime.

Time and a quarter after 45 hrs.

His "things to do" probably included getting drunk as fuck.

[Drachen596]

Time and a quarter? Wtf is that?

[dodint]

Time and a quarter? Wtf is that?

I was gonna laugh at that craziness then I learned my OT rate is only $5 more than my base rate because I'm nearing the cap. :(

[TheBenior]

I was going to be off the Sunday and Monday of Memorial Day weekend, but they're cancelling one day off for everyone that weekend, including my Sunday night. Sunday night for Monday on my midnight shift would be a paid holiday anyway, so with that night getting cancelled, I'm getting 8.5 hours at time and a half, and some penalty for them cancelling my holiday off means that I get 20 hours of compensatory time as well.

But I have one of those evil government sector unions.

[Drachen596]

Some weird OT rules. Company i work for is 1.5x for 5th and 6th days and 7th is 2x. applies to all hourly employees no matter location on pay scale.


In other job news my completely hands off till you screw up and get them called out manager is rumored to be leaving for a spot in California next month. I hope its true with the caveat that the replacement be one of the people who knows how to actually do all the jobs the spot manages. I'd like to be able to go to my manager and actually get valid answers instead of super defensive accusations and demands that you do your job properly.

[Jason]

Overtime? What's that?

:(

[MR2 Fan]

A few months ago at my job, they hired someone to do one of our simpler tasks where we connect to a system and fix file corruption. A lot of employees start doing that job before moving on to the other helpdesk stuff.

Well this guy is terrible. He's very old, like in his late 70's, can barely hear anything, forgets things constantly and the other employees have to constantly monitor him to make sure he doesn't screw something up. Several of us have told management that this isn't the job for him and since he's a temp, should be easy to "allow him to find work elsewhere".

I sat across from him for a few months and it was really bad. I told one of the supervisors who just yelled at me for bringing it up. Now, one of our best employees in that area just left because he's tired of babysitting the other guy.

So, to the supervisor I say:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/056/730/597.jpg

[speedpimp]

Time and a quarter? Wtf is that?

It's called a compromise between time and a half after forty and nothing at all. At my last job it was all straight time, sixty hours of straight time every week is meh. The OT pay is one of the main reasons I took this job.

Found out more about the on call situation from Saturday. The on call guy with "things to do" had actually put in for the day off a few weeks ago and the guy who makes the schedule(the owner) totally forgot about it. So he was supposed to have been off and I was supposed to have been on call. Either way when I got back today I got a $20 gift card to the retail market. And the driver who got hurt is still hurting but refuses to fill out an accident report and go to the clinic to get it looked at.

[mk]

Around here the law is next 2h +50%, rest +100%, weekly overtime is +50%.

Usually union contracts have better weekly stuff, like saturday 6h +50%, +100% rest, sunday +200%.
Due the progressive taxation and its paying practices no fulltimer does weekends for +50%.
For any good it's still long saturday or both days.

No idea how practicalities are today but if it's not paid when you leave you can sue and win.

Taxation is also changing to real time from yearly stuff.
Last time they changed it big the stuff was late or someway otherway for several years.

[Kchrpm]

One of my friends only posts about how much she loves her boyfriend and how great they are together, and tags him in every one of them.

Any time I see her in person, she complains about him.

There are multiple potential reasons for these conflicting actions, but we're not good enough friends for me to really care, I just don't trust anything she says.

[MR2 Fan]

since the concert bombing yesterday, a lot of people on social media, rightfully so, are talking about "pure evil".

That leads me to something I've been thinking about lately.....the definition of Evil.

To me, it seems that evil can only be summed up as an emotion. I've said on other platforms that calling the act "pure evil" doesn't really push the conversation forward on how to stop it. In a way, it is a bit of a cop-out to me, but I realize that is a harsh perspective.

I tend to lean toward science when it comes to how I feel about things, and evil isn't really a scientific construct, or even a psychological one. It may be a more archaic view of things that we continue to use for various reasons.

The reaction to such a violent attack like happened last night is often for people to say "bomb them all" meaning, I suppose, people in the middle east? That reaction is basically the same "evil" they're rallying against, even if they aren't doing the bombing themselves. Is it far different?

[Kchrpm]

Evil is willfully doing something that harms others purely for your own benefit, not to defend/protect yourself from similar or greater harm. The more you harm them, with the less threat of harm to yourself, the more evil you are.

So killing a bunch of people that made no direct threat to you, your loved ones or your society in any way? Pure evil.

Retaliating by killing the innocent loved ones and society of your attackers? Also evil.

[FaultyMario]

"Hence the problem was how to overcome not so much their conscience as the animal pity by which all normal men are affected in the presence of physical suffering. The trick was very simple and probably very effective; it consisted in turning these instincts around, as it were, in directing them toward the self. So that instead of saying: What horrible things I did to people!, the murderers would be able to say: What horrible things I had to watch in the pursuance of my duties, how heavily the task weighed upon my shoulders!"

[Alan P]

So someone posted to my FB wall a vloggers response to the Manchester bombing and the real dregs of society came out in their droves. They were advocating everyone that's under suspicion or on a watch list be rounded up and imprisoned. I helpfully chimed in that you can't lock people up on the suspicion they might do something and they're innocent until proven guilty. This did NOT go down well. Sigh.

[Drachen596]

I'm pretty puzzled by some reports I've been seeing about the concert bombing. Some are saying that people from the same mosque as the guy they arrested and even his own family had reported him to the police and British Government as dangerous and a possible threat.

If that's true.. how'd they fuck up and fail to stop him?



Also I am really tired of the 24 hour news networks. All of them.

[Jason]

Unless you have proof an attack is imminent, there's no way you can arrest someone because they might be a future threat. That's a really slippery slope. In all likelihood he was on their watch list, but wasn't seen as a threat to the UK. This happens quite often, actually... people who are 'threats' in theory, but intelligence agencies don't believe they have the capability of acquiring the resources, and/or having the knowledge of building a working bomb.

[2ndMoparMan]

Glad I was able to find a car today. 2002 VW Passat Wagon. Oddly, with a 5 speed. Figured all these came with autos by now...

[Drachen596]

So now there are reports that the French, US and the guys own family told the British the guy was going to do something. France had tracked him to Libya where he disappeared for a while causing them to assume he'd gone to Syria.

It sounds more like a pretty big screw up on the side of the British if you take all that into account.

[TheBenior]

One of my friends only posts about how much she loves her boyfriend and how great they are together, and tags him in every one of them.

Any time I see her in person, she complains about him.

There are multiple potential reasons for these conflicting actions, but we're not good enough friends for me to really care, I just don't trust anything she says.
I think I've seen more than one study suggest that the people who post the most on social media about how great their relationships happen to be are the ones that feel the least secure in them.

I can't remember if the thought was that they were trying to convince themselves or others.