Destiny - Bungie's Next Big Project

[novicius]

Play Vanguard Strike Playlists most of the time. It'll probably take some time but you will eventually get quality drops -- you WILL get a Vanguard effect that will increase your rate of drops the more consecutive Strikes you string together.

Just takes longer. ;) #casualgaming

[Phil_SS]

I've pretty much only played with my Titan since TTK Release and I finally got her up to 290+ Light.

I have completed the main story but some of the side quests I have yet to finish. I completed the Gunsmith quests for the Titan Legendary and Titan Exotic weapons. The Legendary (Shotgun) has a great perk that if you pop a bubble and have Armor of Light enabled it does not use any ammo. The Exotic has some nice perks but I wish it was a HI, LRoF auto rifle instead of a HRoF, LI auto rifle. I guess if I didn't have a Zhalo Supercell it would work fine but Zhalo's mob crushing perks makes it incredibly useful.

I also have yet to try the Raid. I'm hoping to gather a group of virgins and try it out in the next few weeks. So far, TTK has been way more than I expected. The amount of stuff to do is almost overwhelming. :shocker:

[novicius]

Good work! I should look up how to do those Gunsmith quests. :up:

I made another attempt at the new raid last night. Just practicing different techniques since this group also only made it about halfway...

[21Kid]

Yeah, there is not much info on those. I didn't want to do them because they didn't look worth it. They really could explain these things better. :smh:

[Phil_SS]

Yeah, there is not much info on those. I didn't want to do them because they didn't look worth it. They really could explain these things better. :smh:

Call me crazy but it seems pretty obvious that because I can now obtain rank with the Gunsmith that it might mean something. :p

[21Kid]

Getting rank with other people just gives you Emblems to unlock though, don't they?
Maybe it's just me, but I haven't gotten anything really useful from leveling up the other ranks. Definitely not any legendary items. I never would have bothered to level up his rank based on previous information.

[Phil_SS]

Getting rank with other people just gives you Emblems to unlock though, don't they?

With the release of TTK, you can now get Quests from different people for ranking them up. And the reward for those quests can be Legendary and Exotic items.

Here is what I have received from the Gunsmith so far:

Level 1: Legendary Weapon plus the opportunity to buy Legendary armsday weapons
Level 2: Legendary weapon plus quest for Titan specific Legendary weapon plus I can buy two armsday weapons every week and he gives me two choices for each of those weapons.
Level 3: Quest for Titan Exotic specific weapon plus I can buy three armsday weapons every week and he gives me three choices for each of those weapons.

If there is one thing you should do every week even if you have a small amount of time it is the weapon bounties for the Gunsmith.

And I saw you Carlo......

[novicius]

Saw me? Where?

[21Kid]

Having that info more readily available would be nice, is all. With how long they've been working on this game and how much resources they've been pouring into it, you'd think it would be a little more intuitive.

It's almost like you need to have wiki.destiny & the mobile app available at all times just to know what you are supposed to be doing. The game doesn't even have a map, FFS!!! :smh:

I was wondering around Mars for an hour last night before Carlo showed me where to go to beat one of the house of wolves quests because it is a timed event and there are no clues to point you where to go. (explore mars, it said) :| Had he not shown me where to sit and wait... for probably 10 minutes, I never would have run across the event. :( [/end rant]

P.S. Thanks Carlo!
P.P.S. Still had fun last night. :cool:

[Phil_SS]

Saw me? Where?

You weren't showing up on my roster but I saw you were playing with Denetti and Kid. :p

Kid, it does tell you what region to go to for that mission, "Patrol Mars to find and destroy the Archon Priest stalking the Rubicon Wastes." Once there you have to wait for the Fallen to get frenzied. I do agree that for any new player it may not be intuitive that once you get to that region, you may have to wait for the event to happen. Everything in the game works on timers. Just depends on the trigger. Which could be you interacting via your ghost or it could be a timed Public Event, like with the Taken Events or the Wolves on Mars Public event.

Also, anytime you are doing anything you can always pull up your ghost and get more information on what you are supposed to do. Aka the select button, there will be a small write up about the mission if you are on one. Plus when you are in an area and an event happens it will show up on your regular UI screen in the bottom left corner. It will say, "The wolves are on the prowl" or "The Taken are consuming the area". At that point, an event is happening in your area.

And there could be several at one time. I was in Skywatch a few days ago and a Warsat Public Event, Taken Public Event and Hive/Fallen battle were all going on at one time. It was completely insane and awesome at the same time.

Call me crazy but I don't want the game to just lead me to every single thing. I want to have a bit of mystery and exploration. Figuring out what things do or how to beat a certain opponent is half the fun for me.

[novicius]

Ah my XBL indicator is set to "Offline"? Good to know! Must have been set that way for awhile now...

I will change it today. :up:

[Denetti]

New Gear Manager feature from Bungie currently in Beta: http://imgur.com/a/xm4St

This would be handy. Not that the app isn't now.

[21Kid]

I agree to a point. A little mystery is fun. That's one of the reasons I like the Dark Souls series. And I'm a glutton for punishment. Maybe it's because of the wealth of knowledge on the interwebs that I feel spoiled. ;)
It's probably just that one mission. Like you said, most missions have the indicator. It is frustrating when you have no idea what to do, except to go explore. I didn't know if I was looking for a boss, a trigger to start an event, etc...
If it was a side quest, I wouldn't have cared so much.

And like Carlo said last night. They made all of the yr 1 stuff obsolete. I never did any of the expansions. But, they are of no use to me now that I am lv 40. If all of the gear I get is lv 20, it will seem like a waste of time to go thru all of that for useless gear.

[novicius]

Kid, I was wrong about the drops -- they're updated Year 2 gear in the old raids. :up:

Edit: a good op-ed piece on TTK's new upgrade system (http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/1/9433965/destiny-loot-exotics).

[Phil_SS]

By Year 2, do you mean the Exotics you can get from the Raids are Year 2 versions if they have a Year 2 version?

The Legendary gear is all year 1 gear from Crota and VoG. If I could get a Year 2 VoC I would run VoG every week til I got it.

That Op-ed piece seems to be written by someone who wants to be highest level without having to work for it. Wah wah I haven't gotten all the Raid gear after running it once. Wah wah, gimme gimme gimme. I wanna be able to brag to my friends that I am 310.

[novicius]

No I just mean that you can run VoG/Crota and get Blue & Purple engrams that will convert to high value Year 2 items, not the Exotics.

[21Kid]

9 Things You May Have Overlooked in Destiny: The Taken King (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/10/02/9-destiny-the-taken-king-secrets-you-may-have-overlooked/#/slide/1)

Carlo & Dennis have pointed out most of these to me by now. But, in case it will help anyone else.

[Cam]

Downloading Destiny for Xbox One. I'm sure it will take me several days to get up and playing with y'all. :rolleyes:

[Kchrpm]

:o what about Forza???

[Cam]

I have no plans to buy Forza.

[novicius]

Downloading Destiny for Xbox One. I'm sure it will take me several days to get up and playing with y'all. :rolleyes:
:up: :up:

Cammie! :D I have not yet started playing my level 36 Hunter so I will happily roll with you! Just send me an invite when you see me on.

[Cam]

I've been jumping around between my characters. They're all level 40 and between 220 and 240 light, I think.

Edit: Check my current characters here. https://www.bungie.net/en/Profile/254/1456664

[novicius]

Oh ok -- well hell, there's no catching up to be had. :up:

[Kchrpm]

Fair enough :) Enjoy the new toy!

[novicius]

Looking forward to seeing you, Cam. ;)

In other news, I'm working on quest to expand my Arc Blade. The first step is to get 50 Major (yellow) kills and 25 Guardian kills. The 50 wasn't so bad, just ran through the "Scourge of Winter" mission on Venus a few times.

But the Guardian kills in Crucible? Faaackin' hell this is tough! At first I thought maybe doing the 6-on-6 Rift/Control type games would be good for sneaking a few dedicated sword kills -- but no. No way, not even close. There is always 2-3 enemy Guardians watching the Heavy Ammo Synthetic spawn points (in Crucible, you can't use your own ammo to power your sword). Agonizing how many matches I played to get 10 sword kills. :smh:

In the end I've found the 3-on-3 Skirmish matches offer the peace and quiet needed to get the ammo and then stalk your kills. :up: I'm up to 22 of 25 and should finish this sucker today...

[Cam]

Well, with the town in a state of emergency, I'm pretty much going to be playing Destiny all day. Friends are always welcome!

[21Kid]

Hi Cam :)

[Cam]

Lori's away, classes have been cancelled again tomorrow and authorities are urging people to stay home. Looks like the Destinithon will continue for another day. :lol:

[21Kid]

Sounds rough. ;)

[novicius]

After running through the Vanguard Heroic Strike Playlists last night...

DENNIS: Hey, I just got a purple Legendary helmet called "Old Man Mask".

CARLO: Hmm. That would go well with my new gun, "Jesus Christ This Toilet Bowl Water Is Cold". #saggynutz #oldmanjokes #destinynames
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Well now that Cam is on, do we have enough XBONERS to run the King's Fall Raid yet? ;)

[21Kid]

My light got up to 275ish... So, I could probably be cannon fodder at least. :cool:

[Phil_SS]

My light got up to 275ish... So, I could probably be cannon fodder at least. :cool:

We should be able to help you run through the Heroic Strikes and The Court of Oryx. Those two should help you gain light level fairly quickly.

Aka, from what I have read you need to be at least 295 to finish the raid. You can start it at a lower level but towards the end you need to be a high enough level to take on Oryx.

[Cam]

Classes cancelled for the rest of the week. Students urged to stay home.

My hands are going to hurt by Friday. :lol:

[novicius]

Aka, from what I have read you need to be at least 295 to finish the raid. You can start it at a lower level but towards the end you need to be a high enough level to take on Oryx.
I put the chances of us finishing the quest in less than five hours -- even if we were 310's -- at less than 1%. :lol:

This is just for fun and loot!

[21Kid]

Do you get the lootz if you don't finish?

[Phil_SS]

In all the Raids, you get lootz at chest locations and for completing certain sections, (usually by beating a boss). Plus there are save points at those certain sections. So when Carlo's soft underbelly gives up after 5 hours we can start again tomorrow near the point where we left off.

[novicius]

I can't lie, Phil's right! :lol:

[Cam]

Rypien and a buddy of his took me through Crota's End. We did it on normal and they just carried me. :lol:

[Phil_SS]

Anybody else run the Heroic version of the Paradox mission yesterday, and get through Praedyth's gate?

Pretty damn cool mission with more story content to fill in the gaps of the original Vanilla story. I'm loving how they are releasing extra content in a timed manner.

[21Kid]

re:Xur

I know they fixed the three of coins issue. Is it still worth it now to get them though? Or is better to hold off for something else?
I don't have any exotic yr 2 weapons. :(
Also, I didn't realize that the random exotic engram was always a 290 light level... Maybe I should get some of those.

[novicius]

Sure thing, why not? You can harvest the 'Scourge of Winter' mission regardless -- just buy 40 of 'em. :lol:

Definitely invest if you can, Kid! :up:

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I Have Destiny's Sleeper Simulant, And I'm Not Sure How To Feel. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/10/08/i-have-destinys-sleeper-simulant-and-im-not-sure-how-to-feel/)

[Cam]

I would expect more from Forbes than some blogger bitching about the quest. :erm:

In other news, there my hunter was, poking around the Dreadnaught, looking for fragments. A fellow guardian passing by sends a party invite. I join to see what's up. He invites me to the Court of Oryx because they want some bodies to do an antiquated rune. I show up and there's 6 hoss guardians, all 300 and above with hive blood lust in their eyes. We end up doing several antiquated rune fights and numerous other runes. I've never witnessed such slaughter before today. A massive blow has been dealt to the Hive and Taken invasion today, my fellow guardians! Tonight, we celebrate victory! :)

[novicius]

:up: :up:

Good fighting tonight -- even tho' we couldn't complete the Nightfall.

[Cam]

Yeah, that's a tough fight. :thppt:

[Alan P]

Apparently Bungie have advertised for a PC deployment specialist on their site. It MIGHT actually happen! Maybe.

[Yw-slayer]

3 years on, lol.

[Denetti]

Legendary engrams from the 'scent' chest? Kid, you got short-changed. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3olqi5/scent_and_death_chests_experience_weekly_reset/

[21Kid]

SONOFA....!!!!!! :mad:

I'm up for helping you guys try for it if you want.

[Cam]

They have implemented an odd way of trying to get more money out of players: silver. I could understand if you could buy marks, engrams, armour, or other useful things with silver. However, as far as I can tell right now, you can only buy emotes--completely cosmetic and superfluous. Boggling. :? :erm:

[Kchrpm]

A lot of people prefer for microtransaction stuff to be purely cosmetic, so that you're not introducing pay-to-win mechanics, or making it (at least seem like) items are extra hard to get just so that you'll buy them.

Team Fortress 2 hats come to mind.

[21Kid]

I'm sure that some people will buy them...

[Phil_SS]

A lot of people prefer for microtransaction stuff to be purely cosmetic, so that you're not introducing pay-to-win mechanics, or making it (at least seem like) items are extra hard to get just so that you'll buy them.

Team Fortress 2 hats come to mind.

This times a billion. I would have a very hard time continuing to play the game if it turns into a pay to win mechanic.

And Cam, the Eververse Trading Company was set up to supplement the content in the game. They are not going to have paid DLC anymore for this edition of Destiny. But they want to continue to put new content out. So they have made it optional on whether you would like to contribute for the creation of the new content. The new content being new Missions, Strikes, Raids, armor, weapons, emblems, shaders etc.

[21Kid]

Contribute how? Through buying emotes?

[Phil_SS]

Contribute how? Through buying emotes?

Yes. For now. They have stated that what will be available through Eververse will only be cosmetic.

Some other things I can think of:

Shaders
Emblems
Ships
Sparrows
Weapon shaders
Ghost shaders

[Cam]

No need to patronize me, Phil. :thppt:

[Phil_SS]

When I figure out what that means I won't do it anymore.

[Cam]

:lol:

I felt like you were being condescending here:


And Cam, the Eververse Trading Company was set up to supplement the content in the game. They are not going to have paid DLC anymore for this edition of Destiny. But they want to continue to put new content out. So they have made it optional on whether you would like to contribute for the creation of the new content. The new content being new Missions, Strikes, Raids, armor, weapons, emblems, shaders etc.

I'm just not the type of person who would knowingly pay real money for a cosmetic upgrade. I have no problem paying for a game or interesting DLC that makes a game more interesting in a substantial way. I understand that it takes a large group of people that work hard (former colleagues are in the industry) to put out a game. I want new and interesting content. I agree that a pay to win mechanic would be not cool.

As y'all know, I've played a lot of World of Tanks. You can buy gold with real money that allows you to advance quicker in tank progression. As it stands, it took me months of playing just to get one tank line up to tier IX. I can't even imagine how much playing I would have to do to get to get one tier X tank. There are two dozen tank lines or so. Paying will get you there about 40% faster. You can also buy premium ammunition--not necessarily a pay-to-win mechanic because it does not guarantee success. I think the way it has been implemented works for the game.

The Silver system just doesn't make sense to me. It just seems like a cash grab aimed at people with more money than brains. I don't buy the "support the developer to make future content" bit. It's not a kickstarter campaign.

[21Kid]

Maybe if they put out some stuff you enjoy you could support them retroactively?

Is there really any reason to play any of the other classes? They are all identical except for their special abilities and appearance. :| And those don't differ enough for me to want to play through it all again.

[Phil_SS]

Is there really any reason to play any of the other classes? They are all identical except for their special abilities and appearance. :| And those don't differ enough for me to want to play through it all again.

They play very different because of the class specific grenades, melee and special abilities. For example, a Defender Titan plays totally different than any other subclass in the game and can be incredibly useful in PvE. The Sunbreaker is a monster in PVP and fun as shit in PvE. Hunters can go invisible. Etc.

I do understand not having enough time and not wanting to put time into another character. I have barely put any time into my Warlock or Hunter since TTK other than getting them to Level 40. But don't base that on "They are identical except for specials". IMO, you are missing out on a variety of gameplay.

[novicius]

I'm going to be playing in the Iron Banner hopper tonight, folks.

Join me for unfettered war! :hard:

[Cam]

Phil, I think you wear rose coloured glasses when you play Destiny. I think there is minimal difference between the characters. However you decide to play them is what makes them.

[Yw-slayer]

Dunno man, I definitely don't have rose tinted glasses on when I play it, yet I think the characters all play relatively differently (when one isn't cheesing).

Maybe you're just a miserable hipster who likes to talk about how you delete games? :assclown:

[Cam]

I'll delete you. :mad:

:p

[Yw-slayer]

YOU CAN'T DELETE WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE!!!

[Cam]

:(

[Cam]

How far did you guys get in the raid after I left last night and how did it go?

[novicius]

Not any futher. I dropped out after 1 more attempt.

I don't feel like enough people were regularly dipping into my bubble to pick up Weapons of Light repeatedly -- every time I'd look at the damage levels on the wipe screen, I'd be at the top of the list. Yet those guys were using the Black Spindle sniper rifle, they should've easily out-scored me.

Also Cam, bearing the War Priest only gets us halfway through the challenges. ;)

[Cam]

I know. I have an active quest with three tasks in Kings Fall. Eliminating the Warpriest is only the first item. :)

When I was actively sniping the Warpriest, I would go into the bubble every time I was reloading.

[Cam]

Got the Key of Eir by killing 50 bad guys. Opened the chest and got a blue engram and three wormspore. I could have gotten that in less time just by running around the Hull Breach. :|

[novicius]

:lol: :smh:

[Denetti]

We got up to the sisters (daughters of oryx) but we did not complete that fight. We kept falling apart in the phase between damaging the first sister and the second sister. It got really late, or rather early, Boda and I left at that point. I'm not sure if they kept going beyond that.

Yeah it's fun, but I'm not sure the rewards are worth the time investment. And (especially for me) there's too much jumping around and time between the bosses. They need to add more trash mobs and fewer puzzles.

I would like to complete the whole thing once or twice however, but that's about it.

[novicius]

Wow that's futher than I've ever done! :up: :up:

[21Kid]

So, how would one go about these older raids now that everyone is moved on? Especially if one does not have more than 2-3 friends playing at a time? Weren't they going to add matchmaking to the raids?

[novicius]

Well there's The100.io website, Kid. Post a game there and you should get some folks signing up.

[21Kid]

:?
That doesn't sound fun...

[novicius]

LoL well I can set up a game but my schedule is so sporadic, I don't know if I could even make it! :D

[Phil_SS]

So, how would one go about these older raids now that everyone is moved on? Especially if one does not have more than 2-3 friends playing at a time? Weren't they going to add matchmaking to the raids?


1. I'm more than willing to run the old Raids anytime you would like. We should be able to clear even Hard mode VoG and Crota with 3-4 people. I still find them to be fun though the outright frustration and euphoria from beating them is a lot less.
2. Destiny LFG, Destiny Reddit, the 100.io or Destiny forums.
3. Nope. They have been pretty steadfast about not having matchmaking for Raids.


:?
That doesn't sound fun...

I've met some great people by joining someones raid group. 95% of the people out there are just like you and I. Live alittle, buy a free emote or two. Don't be like Cam. :P

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And I have yet to run the King's Fall Raid. I was hoping to run it with a group of virgins but I think most of if not all of my friends have run some part of it.

[Yw-slayer]

Actually, if I have time I wouldn't mind doing VOG. They is a GREAT raid.

[21Kid]

I bought TWO free emotes. ;) I guess it's just the lazy console gamer in me. I just want to turn it on and play the game.

Why can't they have an in game lobby for raids or something? Kinda defeats the purpose of having a "connected game" when you can't actually connect with anyone in the game. :erm:

Thanks for the offer though. :D I appreciate it.

[novicius]

The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny (http://kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow)

TL;DR: Delegating the story to a writer who was either burnt-out or incompetent can cause massive issues further down the road.

[21Kid]

It had a story at some point? :eek: The DELETED story sounds better than the hodge-podge that it shipped with. :( I'm still not exactly sure what is going on or why I'm supposed to care. :| I just run around shooting things.

[Yw-slayer]

The Dark Dark is Dark and Dark. But you Are The Light And Legend to Defeat The Dark Darkness that Hides In The Dark. That's pretty much all you need to know.

[Cam]

:lol: Sounds legit.

In all seriousness, I pick the game apart, but I still play it. I enjoy it now that there is more stuff to do and now that I'm not playing alone. Just don't expect me to have the same tastes and play it the same way you do.

I haven't spent my silver because I'm totally expecting them to release something in the near future where everyone is going to say, "Aww, I wish I had not spent my silver on those silly emotes."

[21Kid]

... or they'll change the system entirely and your silver will be useless. :finger:
At least I'll have my emotes!!!

[Cam]

Yep. :|

[novicius]

This reporter did not do his due diligence, IMO: Destiny clues first appeared in Halo 3: ODST which was written by Joe Staton (he also wrote for all the Halo games except for Halo 1).

Obviously Jason Jones & Co. thought they could just give him some high-level outlines of what narrative they wanted while they worked on Halo: Reach and then when they finally came back to Staton and his crew of writers, they did NOT like what they saw.

But that shit was brewing well before Reach was delivered. :smh:

[Denetti]

Carlo & Cam - The next step in the exotic quest chain we started yesterday in the daily heroic is apparently time gated. So we'll need to wait until either the next weekly reset or until Paradox is the daily heroic again. At this point no one is sure which one will be the trigger.

My money is on having to wait until Paradox is the daily heroic again.

The people who were able to complete it yesterday had done the story mission when it was the daily heroic one-day last week. People that completed it yesterday (like us) now have to wait.

[21Kid]

Me too... :| Luckily Phil walked me through it. Thanks Phil! Hopefully you're available to show me where they are again next time. ;) I'm not going to remember all those steps on my own. :(

[novicius]

Next time I don't think we need the ghosts -- we just need to complete the Vault of Glass raid (among other things) -- you're going to have your chance to play the raid after all, Kid! :D

[Phil_SS]

Me too... :| Luckily Phil walked me through it. Thanks Phil! Hopefully you're available to show me where they are again next time. ;) I'm not going to remember all those steps on my own. :(

My pleasure. The guy we were playing with last night informed me today that I didn't need to kill the Minotaur at the end to complete the task in the Quest. I only needed to kill a Taken Minotaur, :smh::lol: Oh well, I like doing that mission and I still got loot from Praedyth's chest.

[21Kid]

He told me that after you left... But, might as well. :D

[21Kid]

Next time I don't think we need the ghosts -- we just need to complete the Vault of Glass raid (among other things) -- you're going to have your chance to play the raid after all, Kid! :D

Maybe this is how they're going to refresh all of the old raids! I'm down for that. :cool::up: As long as I have ringers like you guys to hold my hand through them. :D

[Cam]

Can we set a time so I can participate too? :D

[Denetti]

I should add, if you swore loyalty to FWC last night, like I did, don't switch next week. I think you probably need to stay loyal to FWC to get the rest of the quest chain.

[Cam]

Boda and company told me that they cheesed the sword quest by joining the free-for-all crucible game. The players agreed to meet in a certain spot. You can still use the sword and get credit for kills with it even if you don't have ammo. You just bash your buddies with the hilt.

[novicius]

Cool, much better than doing it my way. :lol: :up:

[21Kid]

Will you be my punching bag Cam? :D Otherwise, I'd never finish that quest. I don't have the time, or skill to get those 25 crucible kills with the sword.

[novicius]

Yeah, it was *tough* and I remember complaining about it to Phil & Chris. Took me two entire gaming sessions to get a paltry 25 kills. :thppt:

[Cam]

Bought two exotic armour engrams from Xur. Cryptarch decrypts them into two Crest of Alpha Lupi's. :rolleyes: Thankfully, one was for the hunter and one was for the titan.

Played Prison of Elders and got matched with only one other player. We beat the final boss. He got an exotic engram and I got jack shit. :(

[21Kid]

There's cross-class armor? :? I should do more of those Prison fights, since I'm full on keys. Thanks for the reminder.

[Yw-slayer]

Not really. There's Alpha Lupi armour, but it's one piece for each classes.

[Cam]

Decided to take another chance on buying an exotic engram from Xur in the hopes of getting armour for my warlock. Got Crest of Alpha Lupi. :| Fuck this game. :mad:

[21Kid]

:| wow... You have some bad luck.

[Phil_SS]

Lots of people have reported that kind of luck. From what I have heard, the table for the Exotic engrams is not as encompassing as to what is available. So, the table for the Chest Engram could be CoAL (Titan), CoAL (Hunter) and Alchemist's Raiment (Warlock).

I'm pretty sure during one of the weekly announcements or somewhere else they mentioned that they did that so that everyone didn't just have every Exotic Helmet or Chest Piece etc by spamming Engrams from Xur.

BTW, Xur is selling a Year 2 version of The Skull of Dire Ahamkara. Why is that special? Well, a year 2 version doesn't exist in the Armor Kiosk. So this may be the way that we will be have access to the Year 2 versions of Year 1 Exotics not in the Kiosk. Come one Armamentarium!

[Denetti]

Boda and company told me that they cheesed the sword quest by joining the free-for-all crucible game. The players agreed to meet in a certain spot. You can still use the sword and get credit for kills with it even if you don't have ammo. You just bash your buddies with the hilt.

I need to complete that step for my quest too.

[Phil_SS]

FYI, you do not need to spend any silver to go trick or treat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UjRN1q3g70&feature=youtu.be&t=37s

[Denetti]

The next step in the exotic quest chain we started yesterday in the daily heroic is apparently time gated. So we'll need to wait until either the next weekly reset or until Paradox is the daily heroic again. At this point no one is sure which one will be the trigger.

My money is on having to wait until Paradox is the daily heroic again.


I was wrong. The time gate is now open after the weekly reset.

We can complete the Not Forged in Light quest series and get the gun tonight.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3pjvre/no_time_to_explain_complete_guide/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3qeqrr/not_forged_in_light_quest_triggered_after_weekly/

[novicius]

Dammit, I'm going to be busy until late tonight. :(

[Phil_SS]

At least the quest will be available to you now.

[Phil_SS]

Yay for jumping puzzles!

We got up to the Glyphs in the King's Fall Raid before quitting for the night. Fun times with Dennis and Kid. Hopefully tonight we can resume and get a bit farther. Maybe Carlo can join if the Son of Jor-El was properly irradiated last night. ;)

[21Kid]

Shortly after the release of The Taken King, rumors started coming out that Bungie would supplement Destiny's new content with cosmetic microtransactions, and would refrain from going back to the underwhelming premium paid expansion model. According to Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg, it looks like that has been debunked.

When asked by an analyst regarding Destiny's future, he stated, ""We had a full year of expansions to the game that have been very well received and sold quite well. More recently, you've seen us introduce smaller, in-game purchases that allow people to customize their experience and express themselves; those have been very well received and have sold well also. I think we've already shown that DLC and microtransactions can co-exist and that our community is hungry for more great content." :|

[novicius]

Yay for jumping puzzles!

We got up to the Glyphs in the King's Fall Raid before quitting for the night. Fun times with Dennis and Kid. Hopefully tonight we can resume and get a bit farther. Maybe Carlo can join if the Son of Jor-El was properly irradiated last night. ;)
Nah, the Northern Lights were a no-show. :smh:

Yeah I will try to be on before 8 PM! ;)

[21Kid]

I won't be on until after 8... Probably around 8:30 CST. If everyone else is waiting though, I can try to get on earlier.

[Phil_SS]

It's all good. We should be starting around 10PM EST.

[Phil_SS]

The Warpriest is going down and going down hard. :hard:

[Kchrpm]

I feel like you should be blaring War Pigs when you do. (did they use that in one of their commercials?)

[21Kid]

Need something harder than WarPigs... :hard:

[21Kid]

I like the team work involved in this raid. Are the previous ones like this too?

[Phil_SS]

Yes. Though this one definitely requires a more precise and concentrated team effort throughout the Raid.

[novicius]

I just went through the beginning part of the King's Fall raid and successfully ran through both the Swinging Pendulums and Hive Transport jumping puzzles (AND jumping onto the final wall ramp!) all on my first time through! :rawk: #kingsfallbadass #lol #justlucky

[21Kid]

Suuuure, if you watch youtube first. :p

[Denetti]

Just watched some more Oryx videos. Here's my 2-cents.

Most suggested these roles for the fight:
1) 1 Relic holder
2) 4 Ogre killers
3) 1 Floater: Dps to Oryx whenever in immortality sphere, helping relic holder kill the knight, and otherwise killing ads. Also potentially filling in if someone dies.


When killing orges use a persistent/aoe grenade placed just ahead of the ogre. This will prevent it from moving towards the middle while you take it down.
Most strategies recommend people on all 4 platforms - 2 teams of 2. This way there are 2 people taking down each ogre, 2 in the back and 2 in the front.
It's also suggested that the 4 ogre killers equip rocket launchers. This does dps quickly and helps destroy the ogres as fast as possible. Usually 1 rocket from each person then primary weapon dps is fast enough.
When the knight appears a sunbreaker titan can punch it with Melting Point to apply a debuff. This helps destroy the knight faster.
It's also suggested that the relic holder and floater equip a sword in the heavy slot. They will be doing most of the damage to the knight. (And don't need to kill an ogre.)
Defender titan places a weapons of light bubble directly in the center of the area after the knight dies. This helps with the required stagger-dps.
[Optional idea - After the knight dies Oryx punches a platform again. Everyone jumps onto that platform while doing the stagger-dps to him. This keeps everyone guaranteed invulnerable, because the invulnerability bubble is the same size as the platform, and keeps everyone elevated away from adds.]
After he staggers, a six second countdown should be started, 6-5-4-3-2-1.
The countdown is because the light bombs all need to be triggered at about the same time. This helps all 4 people have enough time to get back to the immortality sphere before the detonation. If you're outside the sphere when they detonate you die.
Defender titan can also place a weapons of light bubble during the countdown.
Meanwhile the relic holder and floater remain in the invulnerability sphere doing damage to Oryx.
After Oryx falls off and moves towards the center - if he moves back into space it's time to dodge the mortars. Run around your pillars. Or if he places his hand above the big blight prepare to be teleported.
If teleported you need to kill the Shade in there with you as fast as possible. It's kind of like the 2nd half of the Regicide story mission.



Slam
Relic/Ogres
Knight
Stagger
Detonate
DPS
Mortar or Teleport
Repeat 3-4 times

[novicius]

Is that all? :lol:

Good work, D. It's good to see the concrete steps to victory. :up:

[Denetti]

My suggestion, at least until we have him dead a time or two, have the people on each column be fixed - no rotation. And have the floater also be the fight-caller. When it's time for the next person to jump on they simply call out the person's name. The caller also says when an ogre is dead, when it's time to kill the knight and gives the countdown for triggering the bombs.

[Phil_SS]

Tonight's the night! Let's do this!

If not, we get to start over tomorrow. :toast: Which shouldn't be a big deal. With us knowing the mechanics I feel we should be able to get up and through Golgoroth in a couple hours.

[novicius]

:up: :up:

Tomorrow night I won't be online until 11 PM CST.

[Phil_SS]

Do they need to run to the Blight and then back?

Or should they run to their blight when all the Ogres are dead while the Relic holder and Floater DPS Oryx? And then they have 6 seconds to get back? Or does the 6 seconds start when the first person touches a blight?

6 seconds seems awfully quick to run from the center to your blight and back again.

[Denetti]

The six seconds starts when the knight is dead - but it's not exactly a timed event. It's just a tactic with the purpose of getting everyone to detonate their blight at about the same time.

The front 2 people can probably get to their blights quickly, so might have to wait a second or two until the countdown is finished before they step inside. The back 2 people have farther to run and probably will just need to keep running the whole way.

The runners then have about 5 or 6 more seconds to run back to the immortality sphere before the blights blow up. (I don't know exactly how much time we have for the run back, but no countdown needed here - just get back as quickly as possible)

When your name appears after you step into a blight, and "detonate" it, is not the moment it's blows up. The dialog says 'detonates', but really you're just lighting the fuse.

I think this is what was happening to us in some of the runs... The people on the front 2 columns can get to their blights pretty quickly and were "detonating" their blights right away, meanwhile the back 2 people (that was me) were dying on the way back to the center because one of the forward blights blew-up while we were outside the immortality bubble.

[Denetti]

News from Reddit --

Possible 3 of Coins proper use found: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3s55i1/attention_all_guardiansthree_of_coin_discovery/


Here are the steps...


Make sure that you do not have the 3oC buff active (kill a ultra if you do)
Load into the vanguard strike playlist (Heroic strikes seem to work as well)
Complete two strikes without 3oC
On the beginning of the third strike (once you have loaded in, and are on the ground) activate a Three of Coin and proceed the strike as normal
Killing an ultra has given us a 90% chance of an exotic
Exit back to orbit and return to the playlist


EDIT: A clarifying answer: if the third strike is dust palace, complete it and pop the three of coin on the forth strike and we also received an exotic, you can do this solo or with a partial fireteam. We Did experiment with popping the ToC too early (at the end of the second strike), this resulted in no exotic while my friend who was running the strikes with me popped his at the beginning of the third resulted in an exotic for him.


Three of Coins. Dammit, the hint was in the name.

[21Kid]

Comments added in red.
Just watched some more Oryx videos. Here's my 2-cents.

Most suggested these roles for the fight:
1) 1 Relic holder
2) 4 Ogre killers
3) 1 Floater: Dps to Oryx whenever in immortality sphere, helping relic holder kill the knight, and otherwise killing ads. Also potentially filling in if someone dies.


When killing orges use a persistent/aoe grenade placed just ahead of the ogre. This will prevent it from moving towards the middle while you take it down. We don't want them too far back though, because that will take longer to run to later.
Most strategies recommend people on all 4 platforms - 2 teams of 2. This way there are 2 people taking down each ogre, 2 in the back and 2 in the front. That's pretty much what we had. Depending on which way he went. left/right, the other person up top took care of the 4th platform.
It's also suggested that the 4 ogre killers equip rocket launchers. This does dps quickly and helps destroy the ogres as fast as possible. Usually 1 rocket from each person then primary weapon dps is fast enough.
When the knight appears a sunbreaker titan can punch it with Melting Point to apply a debuff. This helps destroy the knight faster. good to know. :)
It's also suggested that the relic holder and floater equip a sword in the heavy slot. They will be doing most of the damage to the knight. (And don't need to kill an ogre.) I did have my sword equipped to take on the knight.:) Figured that out around attempt #50. :lol: :(
Defender titan places a weapons of light bubble directly in the center of the area after the knight dies. This helps with the required stagger-dps.
[Optional idea - After the knight dies Oryx punches a platform again. Everyone jumps onto that platform while doing the stagger-dps to him. This keeps everyone guaranteed invulnerable, because the invulnerability bubble is the same size as the platform, and keeps everyone elevated away from adds.] I don't like this... There would be no way for the two in the back to get their light bombs in time.
After he staggers, a six second countdown should be started, 6-5-4-3-2-1. ok. Then all get into the sphere together at 1?
The countdown is because the light bombs all need to be triggered at about the same time. This helps all 4 people have enough time to get back to the immortality sphere before the detonation. If you're outside the sphere when they detonate you die. OOOoooohhh that makes sense. The people in front can't detonate prematurely. ;)
Defender titan can also place a weapons of light bubble during the countdown.
Meanwhile the relic holder and floater remain in the invulnerability sphere doing damage to Oryx. Noted. I didn't realize we could still hurt him after he was staggered.
After Oryx falls off and moves towards the center - if he moves back into space it's time to dodge the mortars. Run around your pillars. Or if he places his hand above the big blight prepare to be teleported.
If teleported you need to kill the Shade in there with you as fast as possible. It's kind of like the 2nd half of the Regicide story mission. Suggestion. Instead of everyone switching between attacking adds & the Shade. How about the floater & runner take on the adds and everyone else focus their attack on the Shade?



Slam da duh-duh, da duh-duh. Let the boys be boys
Relic/Ogres
Knight
Stagger
Detonate
DPS
Mortar or Teleport
Repeat 3-4 times

We got this!!! :hard:

[Denetti]

Kid --

Regarding the ogres - not too far back yes, but we also don't want them to die in the middle where someone could prematurely detonate one of the blights they leave. The grenade keeps them where we want them.

Regarding the Shade - Oryx only teleports some people into the sphere (4? I think) and who he teleports is random. So picking people for roles in there would need to happen on the fly.

[21Kid]

Oh, really? That stinks. :(

[21Kid]

FYI, I hope we can pass this tonight. I have wastelands to explore tomorrow. ;)

[Phil_SS]

Now that we understand how the blight bombs work I think we'll have a much higher chance of completing it. That was definitely causing us issues.

And I was thinking the same thing Kid, other than I was figuring people would be leaving to play other games. I will not be exploring the Wastelands or other games. Oh well. LFG the 100.io. HO!

[21Kid]

*if we don't beat it tonight, I'll still log on to help. I'd just prefer to beat it so we can move on. It's been like a week now!!! ;)

[Phil_SS]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not.

[21Kid]

:|... My patience is wearing thin with this guy. :mad:

[novicius]

I'd much rather play through the first 90% of the Raid three times (once for each 'toon) than waste so many game nights on Oryx this week. #$0.02

[Kchrpm]

Is Oryx just kicking your asses every night? Is it execution or character progression?

[21Kid]

Both... You have to be damn near perfect in like 15 different sequences. And if one teammate falls, the whole round is done.

[Kchrpm]

Boo :down:

[Phil_SS]

I wouldn't say it is that bad. We can withstand a teammate death or two or three at certain points.

We just need to tighten up our mechanic work. To be honest, I think we are really close. But I do agree, running through the initial stages with multiple characters will help us in the long run.

[Denetti]

I'd like to see him die at least once. Perhaps I want it too much now.

But I agree Carlo, maybe we take the week off from trying him again. This fight is so much more complicated then any of the others. It's really frustrating, for me anyways.

A couple things from last night:


Kid (or whoever suggested it) good call on moving the immortality sphere to the center while we detonate the blights. That made it much easier to run back to the center after lighting the fuse.
If (when?) we wipe again let's take a breath between attempts and maybe have time to let the ammo synth cool-downs run out. Not having a decent amount of ammo at the start of a round isn't good. Plus it gives us a little time to discuss improvements. We just keep banging our head against the wall.

After learning some more, it's ALL about the blights and their detonation. Plus we don't need to trigger them right away after he staggers, like we have been, we have some time to kill adds. We don't need to rush it.


This guy is talking about hard mode, but it applies to basic too (https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3q2t78/never_die_while_detonating_orbs_on_oryx_hm_heres/).


After Oryx staggers, you have a LOT of time (about half a minute). As soon as he staggers, everyone stay IN the aura and just kill the adds. Spend a good 10-15 seconds, front guys shoot front adds, back guys shoot back adds. When adds are all dead, run to your orbs in perfect safety, detonate in sync (countdown helps) and run back, laughing at the 2-3 leftover thrall who have no chance in hell of killing you.

N.B.: One guy must keep shooting Oryx's chest to keep it open, so the bombs can do their damage. Meaning 5 can clear adds and then 4 scurry off to detonate while 2 stay behind and poke Oryx's chest again to open it up.



The blights are just about the only thing that damages him. So setting them off is very important. Other then the required stagger doing huge amounts of damage to him with guns doesn't seem to matter so much (https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3q61a7/do_you_have_to_shoot_oryx_after_detonating_blights/).



Almost nothing damages Oryx except for the "Corrupted light" (or bombs, basically the things the ogres leave behind when killed)
Only 1 person needs to keep shooting at Oryx so his white spot stays open. If no one shoots then his chest closes and the bombs don't do any damage




Lot's of stuff here (https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3mlvf4/spoilers_some_protips_for_beating_oryx_from_a/).

Outside the Thunderdome: You need to kill the thralls that spawn on both sides, because those are the same thralls that end up inside the dome killing your teammates.


And of course remember that when you come out of the thunderdome you'll be at the front. sonofabitch

[Kchrpm]

I'd like to see him die at least once. Perhaps I want it too much now.

This :up: How often does a video game make you feel this way about an AI enemy?

[21Kid]

Good find Denny! I didn't realize we had to keep his chest open, and that we had that much time to detonate them. Both of those points would give us he win, I think. :D:up:

I don't have another toon to go thru the earlier stages with. If you do and get back to the end, please text me and I'll jump back in.

[novicius]

Heh, we will still want your help, Kid! ;)

[Phil_SS]

Everybody ready to make another run to Oryx? :D

[21Kid]

I'm at work :finger:

[Kchrpm]

Tonight is Forza 6 night! Don't you steal my drivers again!

[novicius]

Do people want to get back on the Raid tonight?

[21Kid]

I'll jump on if others are. :) My new sniper rifle should be ready now(yesterday) as well. It probably won't be better than 1000 yard stare for a while though.

[novicius]

Alright I have finally killed Oryx. :hard:

I joined a game last night from The100.io and while they were sharp, they weren't exactly Beam Team. I feel like we can get to the same level of execution. The Raid took us 2.25 hours to complete.

From what I saw, the single biggest difference between them and us was that they killed all Adds after staggering Oryx. Then there was a haphazard rush to detonate the Blights. We took six or seven rounds to kill Oryx because they didn't successfully detonate all of the Blights each round, too. So we have time to work on him as long as we keep staggering him! ;)

[Kchrpm]

Keep me posted :up: This isn't the kind of game I'd want to play, but it's the kind of game I like reading Carlo Tales™ from.

[21Kid]

That's kind of what I figured after reading Dennis's last post, Carlo. That seemed to be one of the biggest problems, people died while sprinting to detonate them. Now that we know we have more time and can kill the ads first. Should be a piece of cake. ;)

[Phil_SS]

That's kind of what I figured after reading Dennis's last post, Carlo. That seemed to be one of the biggest problems, people died while sprinting to detonate them. Now that we know we have more time and can kill the ads first. Should be a piece of cake. ;)

Agreed. Let's do this!

And I need to remember to record our attempts. Then Krunch can watch us take down Oryx. Unless I set up a Twitch channel and he can watch us live. :finger:

[Kchrpm]

That might be fun, but Carlo Tales™ have so much flavor to them, I feel like I'd be missing something without them.

Maybe I could do a dramatic reading of the Carlo Tale™ over the replay.

[21Kid]

Is anyone actually going to be online on a Friday night though?

[novicius]

I'm booked tonight but will be on tomorrow and Sunday. :up:

[Denetti]

I had an event last night, but I'll be around all weekend.

[novicius]

That might be fun, but Carlo Tales™ have so much flavor to them, I feel like I'd be missing something without them.

Maybe I could do a dramatic reading of the Carlo Tale™ over the replay.
Bah, you have hated those write-ups for YEARS. Enough so that you broke me of the habit. :thppt:

I was invited on another Oryx hunt with my cousin's crew last night. I had the ignominious honor of fucking up what was a perfect two hour romp with Oryx having only a sliver of health -- by jumping up onto the wrong platform. :smh:

I mean we still killed him but seriously, why would I do that?? :lol:

[Kchrpm]

I never hated them. I just didn't understand them. They were easy enough to skip when I didn't want to read them.

[novicius]

Got my 3rd Oryx kill in this morning (straight there off of another player's checkpoint). This time, we didn't really make killing Adds a priority and instead just started a 5-second countdown to detonation after we staggered Oryx. This worked fine too. :up:

Really, just kill the Eyes that pop up; the other Adds can be handled after the Blights are blown.

[21Kid]

The explosions kill them, don't they? Let me know when you guys plan another run and I'll jump on. :)

[Phil_SS]

Tonight. We have the checkpoint at Oryx. And I feel like we should be able to beat it with all the new info we have collected.

[novicius]

The explosions kill them, don't they?
Adds swarm while we shoot and stagger Oryx. The we have to run out to the Blights, at which time the Adds are shooting us. We trigger the Blights to detonate after waiting for someone to finish the countdown. When we run back to the invulnerability zone, the Adds are still shooting us.

But the only real problem during this run are the Eyes. Ergo, shoot them down during the 5 second countdown. ;)

I'll be on tonight and yeah, Oryx is going down hard. :hard:

[21Kid]

Ah, I thought when you detonated the teh orbs, the ads died in the explosion.

How about we shoot the eyes before the countdown? Since we aren't as limited on time as we originally thought?
I have to keep shooting Oryx to keep his chest open for the explosions, right?

I'm game tonight! :hard:

[novicius]

Yes Kid, you just keep shooting Oryx and try to stay in the middle as much as possible. We'll take care of the rest. ;)

[Kchrpm]

Someone use your space sword on him and quote Star Wars lines.

[21Kid]

Yes Kid, you just keep shooting Oryx and try to stay in the middle as much as possible. We'll take care of the rest. ;)
Stand still...? I GOT THIS!!! :hard:

Keith, just buy the game already. :P

[Kchrpm]

Keith, just buy the game already. :P

Not a chance, it does not sound fun for a super casual, fuck-around shooter like me.

[novicius]

ORYX IS DOWN! :D

After we changed our pedestal assignments and set a six second countdown to blight detonation, Oryx went down fairly easy. Now we just have to do this three times a week, each week -- until Destiny 2 drops! :lol:

[21Kid]

I stood still like a boss!!! :rawk:

Keith, you can play casually. People will still jump in and help you complete your tasks. It's more fun to play with other people... every time. :) If you aren't a high enough level though you might not be able to participate with the cool kids. And Bungie has broken the game for the earlier raids. Making them nearly useless to go through now. So, a big part of the game I thought I'd be able to play was taken away, because no one wants to do the earlier raids any more. :(

Wait... I thought this was Destiny 2? :erm:

[novicius]

Depends upon which PowerPoint slide you're referencing. :lol:

EDIT: Also the Nightfall this week is super easy after the murderous shit-show of last week. :up:

[Denetti]

Don't decrypt any boots: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3t70k3/possible_boots_engram_bug_11172015_be_cautious/

[Phil_SS]

ORYX IS DOWN! :D

After we changed our pedestal assignments and set a six second countdown to blight detonation, Oryx went down fairly easy. Now we just have to do this three times a week, each week -- until Destiny 2 drops! :lol:

Our level is high enough to start running the HM Raid. Running the Normal mode hoping for gear that is higher than our current gear will be fun but mostly futile.

Though I'm more than willing to run it to help people get their LL up. We've got the Normal down.

[Cam]

Sorry I've missed out on the fun. I want to beat that shizz. I've been pretty busy lately, getting ready for the holiday art sale that runs tomorrow and Friday.

[novicius]

No worries, Cam -- we have a long ways to go before we'll be done with this raid. :up:

[Phil_SS]

Bungie have greatly increased the reward structure for Iron Banner. You can get the rest of the info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ted1t/iron_banner_reward_package_confirmed_rank_5_drops/?sort=new

"IMPORTANT: Reward Qualification As soon as you are hitting a specific Rank on one of your Toons, the PGR are adjusted for all your Alts. E.g. your Main is Rank 3 and your Alt is Rank 0, your Alt is qualified to drop an armor piece or weapon as a PGR.

IB drops work as the following:

PGR Rank 2 and above: armor sold by Saladin (280-310)
PGR Rank 3 and above: armor & weapons sold by Saladin (280-310)
PGR Rank 4 and above: armor & weapons sold by Saladin (280-310) & Iron Shell (310-320 light)
Rank 3 PKG2: 4 motes, 4 coins and a random rare artifact with 310 light (infusion fuel)
Rank 5 PKG2: Iron Shell (310-320) and a random item from the IB set (weapon/armor; 310-320)"

FYI: PGR = Post Game Reward

I know Cam will be excited! :assclown:

[Cam]

What does Project Gotham Racing have to do with Destiny? :?

[21Kid]

ugh... Will they ever stop messing with stuff?
:|

On the next episode of "as the nerf turns," it looks like Bungie is making pulse rifles and shotguns less effective in its big December update for Destiny. This follows an update in the 2.0 edition that actually made pulse rifles not terrible, and a similar update halfway into the 1.0 version's lifecycle that also made shotguns viable.

[novicius]

There isn't enough nerf in the world to slow down the 4th Horseman. :devil:

Also, keeping Auto Rifles viable in the game sounds good to me, I'm happy with that. :rawk:

[21Kid]

I like the pulse rifles. :( They don't seem overpowered to me... :shrug:

[Phil_SS]

Pulse rifles are definitely the meta right now. They have the highest TTK (Time to Kill), they are effective at Medium to Medium Long range (Pretty much every map) and combine that with the impact DTS of the 3 round burst.

Trials is the great story teller and it is relaying that the Pulse is the Meta, which it is. Just like when Thorn was the Meta. Your use of Pulse rifles in the PvE game will not change.

"With Destiny's upcoming December update, some Year One Exotics will be upgraded to Year Two power levels. Stay tuned to Instagram today for more decryptions." (https://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---11192015/en/News/News?aid=14015)

They have announced MIDA and Armamentarium. :D

[novicius]

Nice! I'm glad I didn't get rid of my Armamentarium. :up:

[novicius]

Looked up my Crucible stats: 2062 kills, 2036 deaths for a K/D ratio of 1.01.

Everything I've ever done in Crucible has been utterly meaningless. :lol:

[Phil_SS]

Across all three of my characters I am 11437 Kills with 11097 Deaths for 1.03 K/D. But I was total crap the first few months after release of Vanilla. Once I figured out my skill set and load outs I've been around a 1.3 to 1.5 K/D with consistent best team player with 2-4 K/D. Minus Trials of Osiris of course.

I've played with you Carlo and you are a good PvP player.

This current Iron Banner is a boon for rewards. I've gotten all three of my players to Rank 5 and I have received the following in addition to the usual Coins and Motes:

Titan:
310 Artifact
310 Ghost
289 Gauntlets
290 Chest
294 Chest
315 Greaves
284 Finnala's Peril (Handcannon)

Warlock:
310 Artifact
310 Ghost
318 Helmet (Best Lock helmet in the game, IMO. Just looks fantastic)
305 Gloves
303 Vestments
283 Finnala's Peril (Handcannon)

Hunter:
310 Artifact
310 Ghost
306 Sleeves
286 Vest
320 Boots
284 Finnala's Peril (Handcannon)

So, Obviously this has raised all three of my characters up a bit. Especially my Hunter and Warlock. Who went from Mid 290's to Mid 300's. I'll be playing a bit more tonight as it seems to be about every 3rd-4th game I get something. Hoping for the Titan and Hunter Helmets.

[novicius]

Wow, nice work! Seems obvious now that farming Iron Banner is much more lucrative than the Raid.

What are your 'toons respective Light levels?

[Phil_SS]

It wasn't obvious until people starting playing this Iron Banner. They have never dolled out this much gear or had specific Rank (3 and 5) packages. Plus they have increased the EXP per win plus increased the Catchup boost EXP for your other characters.

With Malice and my other high LL weapons to each character; Titan 307, Warlock 305, Hunter 305.

Each of my characters is lacking in a 300+ Special, 300+ Class Item.

[novicius]

Ah ok -- without swapping my best stuff, I'm currently at Warlock 311 / Warlock 305 / Titan 301.

[Godson]

Late to the party as usual. Just picked up a ps4 and Destiny.

[novicius]

Cool! Take it slow, don't worry about leveling up too fast (so don't do Bounties!), go through the Story first and enjoy it as you're able. :up:

[Godson]

Copy that, I'm going to be playing with my roommate and a buddy of mine. Should be a good time

[Yw-slayer]

go through the Story first and enjoy it as you're able. :up:

This can be summarised as "The Dark Dark Evil Dark Witch is Evil and Dark. Beware of the Dark Evil Monsters which are both Evilly Dark, and Darkly Evil."

[21Kid]

SPOILERS!!!!!

[Cam]

What story? :thppt:

[Phil_SS]

Late to the party as usual. Just picked up a ps4 and Destiny.

What class are you going with first?

And I have to disagree with Carlo, once you have the chance to collect bounties you should pick them up. They are a great source of EXP to help level up your character and especially your subclasses.

If you ever need any street knowledge let us know. :)

And the story is really good. It's just locked up in the Grimoire cards.

[novicius]

Leveling up will happen *plenty* fast without Bounties, just sayin'. :)

[novicius]

Alright, having now killed Oryx half a dozen times, let me say that this Raid is equal parts cool and annoying. The price for requiring 6 people to play (to stop people from solo'ing the Raid, no doubt) is depending upon family, friends and strangers to get your rewards.

That said, killing Oryx is too much work. The key to farming this Raid is to play through on Normal until you kill the Daughters and get their chest before logging out. Do this for all 3 of your 'toons. Then play through again on Hard Mode only until you kill Gorgoroth. The chests will only dole out goodies once while the Bosses will drop their loot both in Normal and Hard difficulty.

Doing this six times a week is a fucking full-time job. :lol:

[Godson]

So the Grimoire cards hold the story???

[21Kid]

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starpolar/images/6/6b/Notime.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150225125846

[novicius]

Well, REALLY all I need (want) to do to farm the Raid is go onto The100.io website and look for people advertising games starting at either the Warpriest or Golgoroth checkpoints.

Farming chests is an absolute waste of time, IMO -- they *rarely* drop anything good. Trust me, I've done this Raid a dozen times now, the chests suck. :down: Combine that with the amount of time needed to kill the Daughters and Oryx, it makes it all a very poor way to spend one's time.

[21Kid]

That does sound more like work than playing a game... :|

I don't see the point to be honest. So that your character can get 1% better in the game? Blah.

[novicius]

Ah sorry -- don't let my venting get in the way of what I'm trying to say: it's easily possible to have a high Light level 'toon without too much work. Just stick to fighting only the Warpriest and Golgoroth once or twice a week (first on Normal then on both Normal & Hard, you'll get drops for both if you want to really grind it ;) ).

Everything else in the King's Fall raid is a waste of time, that's really all I'm saying. :D

[novicius]

Also, I'm going to save the Warpriest checkpoint each week with my 3rd 'toon so I can host a GTX farming night for those that want to participate and try to get dem phat lewts. I will fill empty slots with random players as needed.

Mondays and Wednesdays are my best nights. I'll make a confirmation post 24 hours beforehand to try and get a headcount.

[Godson]

You guys on xbone?

[novicius]

Yes but the strategy will work on Playstation, too.

Also, Black Spindle is available today. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/09/24/the-black-spindle-destinys-best-secret-and-absolute-worst-encounter/) :twisted:

EDIT: Completed the Black Spindle side mission. Knights of Columbus!! That was one tough mission!

[novicius]

Finished up both the Exotic Sword (Void) and Touch of Malice (anti-Oryx Primary gun) yesterday. Now I've got all of the major Exotics this time around. :rawk:

Again, sorry about fuggin' up your Exotic Sword quest, Phil. Just let me know when you need help, I know what to do now. :lol:

[novicius]

Achievement Unlocked: Light Level 315 :hard:

#soundofonehandclapping

[Phil_SS]

Nice!

Looks like you have been running the HM challenge for Warpriest for sweet 320 loots.

[Kchrpm]

Apparently you guys are just not great Vault Hunters.

(wrong game?)

http://kotaku.com/destiny-player-somehow-kills-oryx-by-himself-1745937236

[novicius]

LoL, great work -- doesn't look impossible but the number of wipes (restarts) must have been staggering. Crazy-good sniping, too (especially on the last Shade kill!). :up: :up:

EDIT: LoL, Destiny servers have been taken down and are being patched right now. :lol: #scheduledupdate #justfunnytiming

[novicius]

Nice!

Looks like you have been running the HM challenge for Warpriest for sweet 320 loots.
Yep and I do have a Hard Mode Warpriest checkpoint with my Titan if you & Chris want some phat lewts this weekend?

[Phil_SS]

Yep, I'm game.

I'd be more than willing to run it with multiple characters. Should be able to load them up and save the checkpoint for each one. Then run it.

[21Kid]

I need to run through the first two sometime as well, since my game didn't save the first time I beat them for some reason. :( But, I don't think I can hang on :hardmode: with my lowly 296. :(

[Phil_SS]

I need to run through the first two sometime as well, since my game didn't save the first time I beat them for some reason.

I think I know why this happened and it is isn't because it didn't register/save your progress.

Are you basing this on the quest for Touch of Malice (Hunger Pangs)?

[21Kid]

I don't know the name off the top of my head... The one where you have to run through the Raid and beat all three. Only the last one got checked.

[Phil_SS]

I'm figuring you didn't have that stage of the quest open when we beat The Warpriest and Golgoroth. It doesn't count otherwise.

[21Kid]

Probably... :|

[Kchrpm]

http://kotaku.com/destiny-s-weekend-vendor-xur-is-selling-the-fusion-rifl-1746240693

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--98fk14Mc--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/r11dmvroyxjs9oqxxepc.gif


Destiny’s weekend vendor Xur is selling the fusion rifle Telesto. If you’re wondering if you should buy it: Yes, yes you should.

I'm assuming you all know what each of these elements mean, and can judge for yourself how excited to be.

[Phil_SS]

I've had one for a few weeks. Definitely a fun gun to use. You can even use it by firing at a wall and when the enemy runs by it will explode, Chris was having a pretty good time with it in PvP using that method.

[novicius]

Yeah but it's ATK 280... :p #hotgarbage

Another weekend where Xur isn't selling any random Exotic Engrams. Was there a notice posted that he'd stop doing that permanently? :(

[Phil_SS]

If he sells a weapon he doesn't sell an engram.

[novicius]

Ok good -- I need more 310's in my life! :D

[Phil_SS]

Everybody ready for Destiny Wipeout. :up:


http://youtu.be/89dcmfb8tSw

[Godson]

This game continues to blow me away

[Cam]

Yep, it's a game of extremes. It's got a lot going for it, but it has its negatives too. :shrug: I have had a lot of fun with it, mostly rolling with my Destihomies.

[Phil_SS]

Sparrow racing is pretty fun. :D

[21Kid]

:smh:


The Destiny community has discovered a bug that lets players obtain a Sparrow Racing League item for free, when in fact it should cost $10.

Bungie acknowledged the problem on Twitter, saying:

"We're investigating a bug with the SRL Record Book, with the intention of fixing it. Please stand by."

As described on Reddit, the exploit involves the SRL Record Book, which is supposed to cost you 1,000 Silver (or $10 in real money). But players realized they could go to the Eververse Trading Company NPC Tess, compete the book's challenges, and get the book without paying a dime for it.

[Phil_SS]

It was hotfixed with a patch yesterday.

"If you did the SRL Record Book glitch Pre-Patch or Post-Patch you can still get the items, but they will remain locked until you purchase the book."

[novicius]

Riiich... :twisted:

[novicius]

BLACK SPINDLE ALERT: today's Daily is "Lost to Light"! This is the Daily mission with the Black Spindle side quest! #goodluck

[Phil_SS]

3! 3 seconds. :up:

I achieved Level 3 in SRL. So now I should be able to get a 320 helmet and mark.

[novicius]

:lol:

Yeah ok, maybe we cut it a little close on that one. ;) Still it was a good recovery after a kind of disastrous start -- I died on my first pass through the last room.

Buuut with some safer playing and focusing on shooting only the Knights, Captains and Centurions I kept getting the juice I needed to scour up the small Adds with my lighting. :up:

You guys did all the heavy lifting on the Big Bad! :D

[Godson]

I now have the MIDA multi tool. I like it alot, I just wish it shot faster.

[Phil_SS]

If you are or have a Hunter, pick up the exotic boots Radiant Dance Machines. Combined with MIDA they make a formidable combination in PvP.

I'm almost exclusively a Scout rifle user in PvP. Which has basically made me immune to all the weapon tinkering in PvP. They may have made an adjustment to them very early on but since have not touched them. Pre TTK, my favorite scout was the VoC. Since the release of TTK it is my Suros DIS-43 with Hammer Forged/Full Auto/Hand Laid Stock.

[Godson]

Light level 293!

[novicius]

Good work! :up:

I parked my main 'toon @ 315. Waiting for a reason to keep grinding. ;)

[Godson]

What's the highest level, 320?

[novicius]

Yep.

[Godson]

Light level 290 took no time. 300 seems like it took ages. In other news, my hunter has all abilities maxed out.

[Godson]

Tried getting the black spindel on Sunday, came soooo close to eliminating all the enemies after variks, but just couldn't close the deal. So frustrating.


Also, I feel like going up against 310+ light guys on trials versus my 302 is a larger uphill battle than one would think.

[novicius]

Shall I unzip and roll out my massif Black Spindle for you? ;)

#coff317coff #dusty

[Phil_SS]

Also, I feel like going up against 310+ light guys on trials versus my 302 is a larger uphill battle than one would think.

It's not. The difference between a 320 and a 300 is only like 5%. Whats way more important is the skill of the player.

ToO boils down to who is good with a sniper and who isn't. It's a shame but that's what it is. I really wish they could be more progressive and have ToO events with only Primary weapons. Or only particular primary weapons etc. There is so much more they could do with it.

[Godson]

Yeah, I absolutely loved the crimson doubles game play. My buddies and I moped up some stooges on that game play.

[Phil_SS]

April 12th is the Spring update. Woot!

[novicius]

Copypasta the deets? ;) :up:

[Phil_SS]

Per This (https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/44472/7_This-Week-At-Bungie---03172016)

New PVE Challenges
New and Updated Gear
New Quest featuring the Blighted Chalice Strike
Increased Max Light and Rewards
Sandbox and Crucible Updates
And more…

They will be holding a twitch reveal each of the next three weeks to talk about the update.

April Update Preview: New Things to Do
Wednesday, March 23rd – 11AM Pacific

April Update Preview: New Things to Earn
Wednesday, March 30th – 11AM Pacific

April Update Preview: Sandbox and Crucible Updates
Wednesday, April 6th – 11AM Pacific


https://www.bungie.net/pubassets/84458/header_frontpage_1.jpg?cv=3983621215&av=1220326552

[Phil_SS]

I've always wanted Bolt Caster so I jumped on the other day and started the quest. A couple hours of collecting Spinmetal and killing hordes and I have to wait for the next armsday. :toast:

The rest of the quest shouldn't take long with my 311 LL Titan.

[Phil_SS]

Sooooooo.......meh.

I'm sure I'll complete the quest and the new strike. And maybe play a little bit of the revised PoE. Otherwise, I don't think there is much there for the non-ToO crowd. But, who knows maybe the new "Firefight" style PoE will be better than I think.

[Phil_SS]

The new Hunter and Warlock gear look fantastic. :up: I'm not sure on the Titan gear. But I have yet to see it on a female character.

And the infusion system tweak will make it much easier to get up to max light level. For those that don't know, the new system converts 100% of the light level of the infused item into the upgraded item. So if I infuse my Armamentarium with a LL 335 chest piece it will become LL 335.

I'm a bit more interested now. (https://www.bungie.net/en/pub/AprilUpdate)

BTW, I completed the quest for the Bolt Caster. Man that thing is fun. Next up is the Dark Drinker.