Politics

[Godson]

Not to mention he had smoked tabacco for years.

[Drachen596]

It is unexpected for it to be assumed a heart attack with out the body being examined.

btw... dems did the same as we are seeing now with the 'dont pick a justicr till after thr election' to Bush. Yet now its a bad thing to say.

[TheBenior]

Actually, it's not unusual to assume natural causes in somebody of that age if there is no external trauma and documented health issues exist.

[21Kid]

It's stupid no matter who the president is, if there are still 9 months before the election. If the election had already past, and we were waiting for the new president to be sworn in... then I could see it being a concern.


I think he was specifically saying it's weird to assume heart-attack specifically, instead of just natural causes.

[overpowered]

Satan, I mean Dick Cheney goes after Trump.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/16/1485760/--Cheney-lays-into-Trump-for-9-11-comments-Lindsay-Graham-piles-on

[Freude am Fahren]

Trump is still all about key acquisitions: www.JebBush.com

[LHutton]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/israel-boycott-local-councils-public-bodies-and-student-unions-to-be-banned-from-shunning-israeli-a6874006.html


Israel boycott ban: Shunning Israeli goods to become criminal offence for public bodies and student unions

[Drachen596]

Btw the Bush one was 19 months before end of term. Included in those opposing his nomination of a new Justice was our current President.

[21Kid]

Why this millennial switched to the GOP (http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/269282-why-this-millennial-switched-to-the-gop)
I don't understand some peoples line of thinking... :| I had an idea going into this article that it was going to be a bunch of BS, and that's just what I got.


The millennial generation is by far the entrepreneurial generation. Hundreds of incredible new businesses are started by illennials each year. Many fail, many succeed, and some become multi-billion dollar public companies. millennials love technology and experimentation. And therefore it shouldn’t be too hard to see why millennials are apprehensive about government intrusions into the market that have greatly slowed down services that they themselves have used to great benefit like Airbnb and Uber. Which would be completely hindered if the GOP let's internet providers throttle service. :|


Just because millennials have a different relationship with religion doesn’t mean they have abandoned faith. And as millennials make it through life’s challenges, I think our generation will turn back to religion more strongly once again. And the Republican Party remains the party of religious liberty. I believe millennials will eventually come to see that.except that religious liberty is just a scapegoat for allowing discrimination.


But then there are those that claim that the Republican Party has far too much of a “take it or leave it” attitude towards this platform. I would argue that this is in fact the attitude of the Democratic Party. We see and hear how on campuses across the country leftists try to silence opposing views. I don’t think this is something the overwhelming majority of our generation believes in. As demonstrated by the fierce competition with the Republican presidential race right now, the Republican Party embraces open debate and discussion in a way that I think my generation will find more and more appealing. :? What??? I don't see how anyone could watch each of the last two debates and draw that comparison.

[thesameguy]

The hilarity of that article is... hilarious. Millennials an entrepreneurial generation? LMAO. You don't get stereotypes like "lazy" and "entitled" when you're a bunch of against-all-odds go-getter types. Of course the fact that you'd say such a thing when it's demonstrably untrue fits right in, so.... As for calling a bunch of developmentally disabled children yelling and pulling each other's hair "debating," well, I guess political correctness has infiltrated just about everything.

[Kchrpm]

Eh, the idea of millenials as all lazy and entitled ignores all of the ones who are starting/running startups, or making major contributions to new technologies/platforms/companies/etc. The idea that any group so big and generically grouped (born after a certain year? YOU'RE ALL ALIKE!!!!!!) would all have major personality characteristics in common is silly, anyway. You can likely find examples of whatever you want, nowadays, thanks to social media.

And who is more likely to show up on your radar when checking social media? People living their lives normally, or someone who has nothing to do all day as they suck off the teet of their parents/the government/whoever else?

[Tom Servo]

I know the conspiracy theorists were mentioned before, but I didn't realize that Leonard Nimoy was the one who had Scalia murdered.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/16/466960553/scalia-and-leonard-nimoy-justices-death-spurs-conspiracy-theories?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160216

[Cam]

Bernie was on campus today. It was like any other day for me. :shrug:

(I can't vote in US elections.)

[overpowered]

I thought Kasich was more moderate than the other clowns in the car. Apparently I was mistaken.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/16/john-kasich-proposes-federal-agency-push-christianity-middle-east.html

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10152332746003132

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=1566617583660586

[overpowered]

That's a surprise. I would have imagined Ben Carson to know more words than Cruz and have a lot more lies to put together.Cruz was valedictorian of his (private christian) high school, did his undergrad at Princeton and then graduated from Harvard Law. He's no dummy. Being a lawyer, lying is pretty much his thing.

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTznIy6i4w

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIX5zcitEaY

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFnT4AbJLrw

[21Kid]

Cruz was valedictorian of his (private christian) high school, did his undergrad at Princeton and then graduated from Harvard Law. He's no dummy. Being a lawyer, lying is pretty much his thing.
How very christian of him...

[21Kid]

I'm always fascinated by what people see in Ayn Rand. It's like some kind of voodoo. I understand how it could seem appealing to some people. But in reality, there's no way that it could work in a civilized society.

This is what happens when you take Ayn Rand seriously (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/column-this-is-what-happens-when-you-take-ayn-rand-seriously/).

[Kchrpm]

Nice article :up:

[MR2 Fan]

I thought Bioshock was what happened when you took Ayn Rand seriously

[overpowered]

Just when you think that McCain is the voice of reason in the GOP, he isn't.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/mccain-abandons-previous-standards-supreme-court-nominees

[tigeraid]

I thought Bioshock was what happened when you took Ayn Rand seriously

Pretty much this.

I honestly doubt any of those politicians who tout her have actually read any of her shit. Just googled quotes, probably. I read Atlas Shrugged years ago and barely made it through... The messages and themes are only slightly less morbid and hate-filled than Hitler or Stalin, and just as delusional.

[tigeraid]

I thought Bioshock was what happened when you took Ayn Rand seriously

Pretty much this.

I honestly doubt any of those politicians who tout her have actually read any of her shit. Just googled quotes, probably. I read Atlas Shrugged years ago and barely made it through... The messages and themes are only slightly less morbid and hate-filled than Hitler or Stalin, and just as delusional.

(And ironic that so many hardcore super right-wing nutjobs ascribe to it, because many interpretations explicitly state you have to be an atheist to be Objectivist. I mean it really can't work with religion.)

[overpowered]

I'm usually not a fan of Apple but the FBI is demanding that Apple create back doors in its phone security for the FBI to use. Apple told the FBI to go fuck themselves. I'm a fan of Apple, at least for today.

http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/02/eff-support-apple-encryption-battle

[overpowered]

Warren Buffett is liberal, until you hurt his profits. He bought off Nevada politicians to derail solar there because he has fossil fuel interests creating electricity there. Fuck you WB.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sunny-nevada-set-kill-solar-industry-40-tax-hike-derail-off-grid-movement/

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_XF1LZ9Xo0

[Crazed_Insanity]

When no wall street banker got prosecuted during Obama's tenure, I wonder if Obama was/is influenced in the same way.

Don't get me wrong, I do like Obama, but 2 of the most disappointed things that he's done IMHO is the lack of real financial reform after the world nearly ended and killing of Bin Laden in secrecy as if the commander in chief of USA is some sort of head of mafia.

Anyway, only viable candidate is Bernie.

There's one thing I don't like about Bernie is that he doesn't look very presidential. He looks like a nice grandpa, but not very presidential. However, at this stage, we can't be bother by how Bernie look...

[thesameguy]

Cape Breton GTXFWTFBBQLOL?

http://cbiftrumpwins.com/#intro

[tigeraid]

Cape Breton GTXFWTFBBQLOL?

http://cbiftrumpwins.com/#intro


Love Cape Breton. I could get behind that campaign.

[MR2 Fan]

Warren Buffett is liberal, until you hurt his profits. He bought off Nevada politicians to derail solar there because he has fossil fuel interests creating electricity there. Fuck you WB.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sunny-nevada-set-kill-solar-industry-40-tax-hike-derail-off-grid-movement/

There's been a lot of that...I just read that Florida is completely f-ed when it comes to Solar now due to the fossil fuel lobby and our fine GOP governor...Voldermort

[21Kid]

I just read that as well. :(

[Cam]

Cape Breton GTXFWTFBBQLOL?

http://cbiftrumpwins.com/#intro
:lol: Brilliant marketing campaign.

I've been there many, many times. It is nice. You have to not mind winter though. A friend of my aunt bought a 40 acre farm there about ten years ago for $10,000. No joke.

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whnvOdHkFNI

[tigeraid]

:lol: Brilliant marketing campaign.

I've been there many, many times. It is nice. You have to not mind winter though. A friend of my aunt bought a 40 acre farm there about ten years ago for $10,000. No joke.


Tara's having a loooong argument with her Dad, this past month or so. I keep hoping she'll just get so pissed that she won't talk to the doof anymore, and I'll have an excuse to move us to the East Coast. I would LOVE to live there, and I'm sure there's work in auto parts.

[SportWagon]

Re: Cape Breton


https://www.youtube.com/watch?5Vau3xlj8eI

Married to Don Harron, she was.

[21Kid]

Oregon Occupier Countersues For $666 Billion, Citing 'Works Of The Devil' (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/18/467204403/oregon-occupier-countersues-for-666-billion-citing-works-of-the-devil?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160218)


:rolleyes:

[Crazed_Insanity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whnvOdHkFNI

Funny as it was, besides the fact that Bernie doesn't look presidential, another thing that concerns me is his view on race relations... I don't think old white guy understands the problem.

But anyway, it's not like race relations really improved a lot under the Obama Administration. It's just not something that can be easily fixed. Plus, America does have much bigger problems to deal with than race relations...

[21Kid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbyFn4Ak_wE

Sounds pretty reasonable...

[Crazed_Insanity]

Yep. If it were Hillary vs Kasich, I'd probably go republican. I like his positive unifying msg. I especially like his comment about Republican Party is his vehicle, not his master.

Anyway, I'm interested to see how he'll do in Ohio. If he can't even win his home state, then he's probably just spewing BS! :p

[Godson]

Please let kasich be the Republican candidate.

[overpowered]

Funny as it was, besides the fact that Bernie doesn't look presidential, another thing that concerns me is his view on race relations... I don't think old white guy understands the problem.As opposed to an old white lady, or any of the old white guys that's likely as the candidate from the GOP clown car?

Bernie was at least active in the civil rights movement, more so than any other candidate, including the actual black candidate.

[overpowered]

Yep. If it were Hillary vs Kasich, I'd probably go republican. I like his positive unifying msg. I especially like his comment about Republican Party is his vehicle, not his master.

Anyway, I'm interested to see how he'll do in Ohio. If he can't even win his home state, then he's probably just spewing BS! :p


Please let kasich be the Republican candidate.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/16/john-kasich-proposes-federal-agency-push-christianity-middle-east.html

[Godson]

I should clarify, that kasich is still a better candidate than Trump will ever be.

I'm still surprised that most of my ideals are for Bernie more than anyone else, but I digress.

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=973738292661850

[Crazed_Insanity]

As opposed to an old white lady, or any of the old white guys that's likely as the candidate from the GOP clown car?

Bernie was at least active in the civil rights movement, more so than any other candidate, including the actual black candidate.

You're right. But I'm just saying this based solely on Bernie's response regarding how he'll help ease race relations. His response was raising minimum wage!

Anyway, like I said, Obama surely understands this nations struggles regarding race relations, but even he wasn't able to do much to ease such tensions.

So in the end I guess it doesn't really matter much whether if a sitting president understands America's racial problems or not. One person just cannot fix it.

[Crazed_Insanity]

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/16/john-kasich-proposes-federal-agency-push-christianity-middle-east.html

I don't think he's proposing we start a Federal Church to forcibly convert people into Christians, but it'd be some sort of PR firm for America.

Judaeo-christian values are not really that bad dude. The entire western culture was based on it! Don't be so ashamed of it!

Now, how will he managed to find the money to fund this agency would be beyond me. It's not like the Federal govt is currently loaded with money to spend.

It'd probably be a better PR campaign by going to Mars or something.

[overpowered]

Ted Cruz promises the military won't offer 'gluten-free' meals under his watch

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/17/1486145/-Ted-Cruz-promises-the-military-won-t-offer-gluten-free-meals-under-his-watch


a simple fact check reveals the military still bars those diagnosed with celiac disease from enlisting and doesn't offer "gluten-free" MREs for an outraged President Ted Cruz to ban. It appears Cruz is using "gluten-free" as the first stand-in for "political correctness" his brain could think of?

[novicius]

Source?

That may be the longest single approval period but it's not the longest vacancy. There has actually been one vacancy longer than Obama's remaining days and quite a few longer than 107 days.

http://time.com/4224348/scalia-vacancy-supreme-court/
Heh, just coming back to this now -- I saw those numbers on Twitter.

Maybe they were close, probably wrong, no big deal. :)

[overpowered]

This is what happens when you take Ayn Rand seriously

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/column-this-is-what-happens-when-you-take-ayn-rand-seriously/

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=520436391472207

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10207067448618994

[overpowered]

The Kochs Are Plotting A Multimillion-Dollar Assault On Electric Vehicles

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-electric-vehicles_us_56c4d63ce4b0b40245c8cbf6

[overpowered]

Ted Cruz to skip Antonin Scalia funeral after attacking Obama for doing the same

http://www.examiner.com/article/ted-cruz-to-skip-antonin-scalia-funeral-after-attacking-obama-for-doing-the-same

[LHutton]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=973738292661850
I kind of like most of Bernie's policies actually.

[Freude am Fahren]

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12688327_10153827722925115_4137183509430927613_n.j pg?oh=5a8ec9dc4ed2f9d14bb9faa541230815&oe=575B5AD1

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10208270918391898

[overpowered]

When Hillary was stumping for (racist) Goldwater, Bernie was getting arrested for being involved in civil rights protests supporting black people.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-bernie-sanders-1963-chicago-arrest-20160219-story.html

[overpowered]

Sanders goes after Bill Clinton:

http://trofire.com/2016/02/19/sanders-finally-goes-afterfgh/

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=1979471632277857

[overpowered]

Olbermann on Hillary in 2008.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNFsl130_Y

[overpowered]

Camille Paglia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia) on Hillary vs. Bernie.

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/11/sexism_has_nothing_to_do_with_it_camille_paglia_on _hillary_clinton_gloria_steinem_and_why_new_hampsh ire_women_broke_for_bernie_sanders/

[LHutton]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/18/the-media-are-misleading-public-syria/8YB75otYirPzUCnlwaVtcK/story.html


The media is misleading the public on Syria

COVERAGE OF the Syrian war will be remembered as one of the most shameful episodes in the history of the American press. Reporting about carnage in the ancient city of Aleppo is the latest reason why.

For three years, violent militants have run Aleppo. Their rule began with a wave of repression. They posted notices warning residents: “Don’t send your children to school. If you do, we will get the backpack and you will get the coffin.” Then they destroyed factories, hoping that unemployed workers would have no recourse other than to become fighters. They trucked looted machinery to Turkey and sold it.

This month, people in Aleppo have finally seen glimmers of hope. The Syrian army and its allies have been pushing militants out of the city. Last week they reclaimed the main power plant. Regular electricity may soon be restored. The militants’ hold on the city could be ending.

Militants, true to form, are wreaking havoc as they are pushed out of the city by Russian and Syrian Army forces. “Turkish-Saudi backed ‘moderate rebels’ showered the residential neighborhoods of Aleppo with unguided rockets and gas jars,” one Aleppo resident wrote on social media. The Beirut-based analyst Marwa Osma asked, “The Syrian Arab Army, which is led by President Bashar Assad, is the only force on the ground, along with their allies, who are fighting ISIS — so you want to weaken the only system that is fighting ISIS?”

This does not fit with Washington’s narrative. As a result, much of the American press is reporting the opposite of what is actually happening. Many news reports suggest that Aleppo has been a “liberated zone” for three years but is now being pulled back into misery.

[overpowered]

An open letter to the people who hate Obama more than they love America

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/09/1053088/-An-open-letter-to-the-people-who-hate-Obama-more-than-they-love-America

[MR2 Fan]

Jeb Bush has dropped out of the race...shit just got real

[JoshInKC]

Eh, he was never really in it to win it anyway. All of his campaigning looked like he was under some obligation - Like his dad told him that he needed to redeem the Bush family name or something. The way he was running, the only way he'd have gotten the nomination is if everyone else had dropped out. Hell he didn't even have the big money party leadership behind him - not that I'm exactly sure what that would mean in today's GOP.

[overpowered]

Actually, he had the most money behind him of anyone -- second only to Hillary.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html

[MR2 Fan]

^^Exactly. He defined the "establishment" candidate in this GOP race.

[overpowered]

Note also that he had more than 2.5 times as much super-pac money as Hillary, and she had the second most of anyone.

[JoshInKC]

You're 100% correct, I typed 'big money,' then sat and thought about it for a few minutes, realised it wasn't what i meant to say and replaced it with 'party leadership' without actually deleting it. Most of what I said still holds though - he was running like a high school junior trying to get the class secretary position to pad his extracurriculars on a college application. And from what I've heard, most of the traditional party leadership/$$$ (think the Koch brothers) are either supporting Cruz or Rubio, or are avoiding commitment until the field firms up some more.

You're definitely on the nose with him being 'THE' establishment guy on the gop side, but the specifics of that are pretty weird this cycle. Hopefully I'll remember to come back to this in the morning, because i've got some thoughts on what that means.

[Jason]

Trump vs Clinton seems more and more likely.

Oh boy.

[speedpimp]

Trump vs Clinton seems more and more likely.

Oh boy.

You mean the choices will be "WHAT THE FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK?" and "ARE YOU FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKING KIDDING ME?"

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10205782156019706

[Sad, little man]

Wat?

[MR2 Fan]

answer: Super delegates

[overpowered]

No. Super delegates are not included in that table. That's a result of the fuckwittery that is known as a caucus.

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTwXvRt6tyM

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uWu0nSsg7w

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9UgPAV6ExY

[overpowered]

The Hillary machine is so messed up.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2816009/nevada-precinct-captain-dont-vote-for-socialist-jew-bernie-sanders/

[LHutton]

^That even makes Trump look sensible.

[tigeraid]

http://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10968236_784937071599349_8381327616826526173_n.jpg ?oh=b0f6b620f88bf4f7c1413ffce39b5d35&oe=57692E8E

[overpowered]

Hillary Clinton’s Pay-to-Play Speaking Fees Disqualify Her as a Presidential Candidate

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/22/hillary-clintons-pay-play-speaking-fees-disqualify-her-presidential-candidate

[LHutton]

Sadly pay-to-play was introduced by corporate citizenship and big money campaign financing. Until you remove that, the system is fundamentally corrupt and pay-to-play is par for the course.

[LHutton]

http://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10968236_784937071599349_8381327616826526173_n.jpg ?oh=b0f6b620f88bf4f7c1413ffce39b5d35&oe=57692E8E
Yes, it's amazing how the mind creates the impression that the Republican Party used to be better.

Slight edit to that list - "I allowed a scientist to travel to Pakistan and give them nuclear weapons, whilst I was creating Al-Quaeda, and printing huge amounts of children's textbooks to promote what we now call 'Radical Islam'."

"I covertly sold arms to Iran during the Iran-Iraq War and used the proceeds to fund terrorists in Nicaragua."

"I bank-rolled human rights criminals like Rios Montt and Pinochet."

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=1289181101108534

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

[21Kid]

:lol: or :(
Speaking about his early days running for office in the Ohio Legislature, John Kasich referred to women "who left their kitchens" to help him.:?

[LHutton]

They had a referendum on first past the post voting in the UK and basically people voted to keep it, because nobody wanted the secondary and tertiary votes of complete numpties to have a deciding say.

[Alan P]

TBH everything I've read about the caucuses (and I'm paying way more attention to the US presidential race than I have in previous years thanks to this very thread) makes me think the whole thing is a disorganised mess of people sitting down in different parts of the room and whoever can shout loudest gets to speak. I know it's been like this for many, many years but you'd think they'd have some sort of order of counted vote or SOMETHING rather than the totalfuckupinwaiting it currently is. The whole Las Vegas thing with the messed up vote and people leaving before a candidate was nominated (and the writing on his hand!) and the scenario above with the people being asked to leave and blatant racism of the person who's supposed to be in charge makes me cringe.

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CHQlZiJ8YM

[LHutton]

TBH everything I've read about the caucuses (and I'm paying way more attention to the US presidential race than I have in previous years thanks to this very thread) makes me think the whole thing is a disorganised mess of people sitting down in different parts of the room and whoever can shout loudest gets to speak. I know it's been like this for many, many years but you'd think they'd have some sort of order of counted vote or SOMETHING rather than the totalfuckupinwaiting it currently is. The whole Las Vegas thing with the messed up vote and people leaving before a candidate was nominated (and the writing on his hand!) and the scenario above with the people being asked to leave and blatant racism of the person who's supposed to be in charge makes me cringe.
Yes, it kind of makes UK politics look very civilised by comparison.

[21Kid]

TBH everything I've read about the caucuses (and I'm paying way more attention to the US presidential race than I have in previous years thanks to this very thread) makes me think the whole thing is a disorganised mess of people sitting down in different parts of the room and whoever can shout loudest gets to speak. I know it's been like this for many, many years but you'd think they'd have some sort of order of counted vote or SOMETHING rather than the totalfuckupinwaiting it currently is. The whole Las Vegas thing with the messed up vote and people leaving before a candidate was nominated (and the writing on his hand!) and the scenario above with the people being asked to leave and blatant racism of the person who's supposed to be in charge makes me cringe.
You can't mess with tradition!!!!

[LHutton]

Sometimes a mass debate involves a lot of wankers.

[overpowered]

Obama gives Congress Guantanamo closure plan

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/guantanamo-bay-obama-prison-closure-plan/

[21Kid]

Good! But, is it too late?

[Yeti]

Trump vs Clinton seems more and more likely.

Oh boy.

Today my FB feed got completely spammed by 'OMG WE MUST STOP TRUMP' Likebait posts.

Granted, I don't want anything to do with the idea of President Trump, but unless Ted Cruz stopped existing in the past week and I didn't notice, Trump isn't even close to worst case scenario.

Hillary Clinton vs. Ted Cruz is my worst fear in this race, currently.

[MR2 Fan]

yeah, Ted Cruz scares me more than anyone, but he's not doing well, he even got 2nd in South Carolina of the Evangelical vote, which is crazy

[overpowered]

Good! But, is it too late?If you listen to the video, it's not clear that it will actually happen before he finishes his term. There are a lot of complications and a lot of idiots who want to keep it that are in positions that allow them to cause problems. If congress cooperates, then it will get done relatively soon. If not, maybe not so much.

It is too late for him to fulfill it as a campaign promise, since he originally promised to get it done in his first year.

[overpowered]

Hillary Clinton vs. Ted Cruz is my worst fear in this race, currently.As much as I strongly dislike Hillary, I dislike her a lot less than anyone in the clown car. If she's the nominee in November, I'm voting for her, because everyone in the clown car is far far worse.

Choosing not to vote, or to vote for a third party candidate is effectively voting for whomever wins and if that ends up being one of the GOP clowns, that's bad.

[overpowered]

5 Establishment Democrat Myths About Bernie Sanders

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/d-c-rutledge/5-establishment-democrat-_b_9293746.html

[JoshInKC]

Choosing not to vote, or to vote for a third party candidate is effectively voting for whomever wins and if that ends up being one of the GOP clowns, that's bad.

I know some people who call themselves "accelerationists." They vote for whoever they disagree with most, on the assumption that increasing the power of capitalism will increase inequality and speed up the oncoming revolution. They're a fun bunch - true believers, but without the irritating doctrinaire tendencies that a lot of your hardcore commies have.

[Yeti]

I'm 100% sure that having THE BERN in office will just be Jimmy Carter Part II, but I'd still pick that over any other current candidates.

That said, a vote for Hillary is still a vote NOT for Cruz or Trump.

[G'day Mate]

:lol:

[G'day Mate]

Not sure if you can watch these outside of Australia, but for non-Americans the show "Planet America (http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/planet-america/)" does a pretty good job of explaining everything each week

[LHutton]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3459801/Riot-refugee-camp-sees-100-migrants-attack-chairs-bins-Syrian-girl-refused-wear-headscarf.html


Riot in refugee camp sees 100 migrants attack each other with chairs and bins after Syrian girl refused to wear a headscarf.

The bullying had caused a division within the camp, which erupted into the mass brawl on Friday which saw 11 people arrested and seven people injured.

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-p6nzpuWB8

Newt gets it right.

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=821765711266648

[Crazed_Insanity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-p6nzpuWB8

Newt gets it right.

At least the conservatives are waking up to the politicians of usual...

If it comes down to Hillary vs Trump, I'd give Trump a chance to bust up DC! This New Yorker just might end up working very well with Democrats. Who knows.

I'm just sick of politics as usual. If I can't have Sanders the saner candidate, then I'll give the sledgehammer to Trump in order to send my message.

[thesameguy]

If I can't have what I want I want to burn it down?

I'm not entirely opposed to that.

[21Kid]

Gov Walker is just destroying people's rights in Wisconsin. :(


People who make money collecting debts in Wisconsin are about to get a big favor from their government. A law sitting on Gov. Scott Walker’s (R) desk this week would make it much easier and much less risky for debt collectors to go after consumers in court, and much harder to prove that any given collection effort is bogus. The same idea was defeated in 2014 after state officials testified it would harm consumers. The state didn’t raise those same warnings in a September hearing on the nearly-identical 2015 version of the bill, however. It passed both Republican-dominated chambers of the state legislature on party-line...

[Crazed_Insanity]

If I can't have what I want I want to burn it down?

I'm not entirely opposed to that.

I'm not really an "accelerationists", but I really think US politics cannot go on like this. We need more politicians like Sanders, not Hillary.

Anyway, point is, I'm not going to vote for any career politicians supported by those super duper PACs. That's why Trump would get my vote if Democratic Party failed to nominate Sanders.

[MR2 Fan]

my question, is Trump a RINO (Republican in Name Only)....is he running this to destroy the GOP and be centrist in the end? I still don't think he believes half of the things he says to get publicity/fans.

I also really wonder who he'll pick as his running-mate.

[thesameguy]

I'm not really an "accelerationists", but I really think US politics cannot go on like this. We need more politicians like Sanders, not Hillary.

Anyway, point is, I'm not going to vote for any career politicians supported by those super duper PACs. That's why Trump would get my vote if Democratic Party failed to nominate Sanders.

Don't disagree... that is why I voted for Arnie, in fact.

[George]

I also really wonder who [Trump will] pick as his running-mate.

Some hot-lookin' babe half his age.

[MR2 Fan]

Some hot-lookin' babe half his age.

I was thinking similar actually, maybe his daughter, or he'll figure out a way to clone himself

[21Kid]

Before he started campaigning, half the stuff he said was in agreeance with Hilary. He would probably far easier to work with than Cruz, who would rather shut down the government. :|

[21Kid]

Sanders Shatters Clinton's Paid Speech "Smear" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-c-frank/sanders-shatters-clintons_b_9276584.html?)

[thesameguy]

Clinton is the smear.

[Godson]

Ugh. Why do I hope for a trump/Sanders setup?

[JoshInKC]

It'd be one hell of a ride.
Seriously though, if Trump were to get the nomination, I'm going to be be working my international connections for overseas employment opportunities, or maybe apply for some kind of doctoral program. It'd be fun to dig the Iron Gates or something - and i do know people with projects in the area. Though i might have to learn Serbian...
:(

[thesameguy]

You know, if Trump gets elected here is the place you'll want to be. Everyone else is subject to bombing and general asshattery. Keep your enemies closer, you know.

[JoshInKC]

Good point.

[21Kid]

:lol:

... wait.

:smh:

[Kchrpm]

Three of my coworkers are completely convinced that Trump is a far better candidate than Hillary, because Hillary is a seasoned, corrupt politician, and will know how to give herself illegal amounts of power without anyone being able to stop her. Conversely, Trump's sexist, racist, etc stuff is all just him trying to get attention, but once he takes office he will be a shrewd yet respectful leader and negotiator that will not know how to work the political system in nefarious ways.

[novicius]

Wow. :smh:

[overpowered]

How America Made Donald Trump Unstoppable

He's no ordinary con man. He's way above average — and the American political system is his easiest mark ever

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10204269469695872

[21Kid]

Should welfare recipients be banned from buying steak and lobster? (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2016/0224/Should-welfare-recipients-be-banned-from-buying-steak-and-lobster)
It's more about unhealthy/expensive food... but, opinions?

[LHutton]

Seems a little nanny state. Let them buy what they want but don't unnecessarily increase the provision just because they do.

[Freude am Fahren]

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/yaefuakg7nv0iwq9nuux.png

[overpowered]

The American Conservative gives Bernie the highest grade of major candidates on foreign policy?

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/a-2016-foreign-policy-report-card/

I think I hear the Twilight Zone music playing....

[overpowered]

Author of ‘The New Jim Crow': Hillary Clinton doesn’t deserve the support of black voters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/02/10/the-new-jim-crow-author-hillary-clinton-doesnt-deserve-the-support-of-black-voters/

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYcvAsphbIs

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=776966302389

I like how Ron Paul registers more authoritarian than libertarian.

Notice the red line showing Hilary's move.

[Alan P]

What on earth is Ben Carson still doing up there? He looks completely lost, is marginalised but the cameras along with Kasich. It also feels like kindergarten at times with them all trying to talk over each other and Trump is the worst of all.

[Freude am Fahren]

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/998495_10100414752815943_3237855638568880661_n.jpg ?oh=1401e07fbd974473b6a812ccee0de2dd&oe=5767788E

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KvQ1zOYrJk

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1g1j8yq-qE

[MR2 Fan]

Give handguns to kids! why not?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/iowa-handgun-children-under-14-proposal/index.html

:smh:

[LHutton]

https://www.rt.com/news/333412-refugee-rape-woman-courses/


Refugee teen charged with rape of social worker after finishing course on how to behave with women

[21Kid]

Give handguns to kids! why not?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/iowa-handgun-children-under-14-proposal/index.html

:smh:My in-laws took my kids(5 +10) to a gun range without asking, and let them shoot a handgun and a .22 :mad:


unintelligible yelling
That pretty much sums it up...

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ3HvjRYnhc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8hkFfymbxQ

[overpowered]

Twitter Exec Censors #WhichHillary in advance of Sunday Fundraiser, Key Primaries

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/26/1491618/-Twitter-Exec-Censors-WhichHillary-in-advance-of-Sunday-Fundraiser-Key-Primaries

[Drachen596]

Give handguns to kids! why not?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/iowa-handgun-children-under-14-proposal/index.html

:smh:


Should be noted that the article states that had support frim both side of the aisle.

it also doesnt do anything but match up with existing laws for rifles and shotguns. They still cant buy or own one. Just legally use them at ranges.

[LHutton]

I have a mental image of an 8 year old trying to handle the recoil on a 7.62mm rifle, and it's not good.

[MR2 Fan]

Should be noted that the article states that had support frim both side of the aisle.

it also doesnt do anything but match up with existing laws for rifles and shotguns. They still cant buy or own one. Just legally use them at ranges.

but just wait, the gun manufacturers will make smaller guns they can sell for kids to use "due to market demand" and the laws will be changed again....bonkers

[speedpimp]

You mean like North American Arms has offered for over twenty years? (http://northamericanarms.com/index.php/firearms.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zhr88F0J40

[LHutton]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/asian-sex-abusers-to-be-stripped-of-uk-citizenship-and-deported-a6896051.html


Exclusive: Theresa May to broaden use of anti-terrorism powers in response to uncovering of Asian sex abuse gangs

In response to the series of Asian sex abuse gangs uncovered in towns across the UK there is likely to be an “acceleration of passport strike-outs and potential deportations”

Asian-born sex abusers will be stripped of their UK citizenship and deported at the end of their sentences under a new Home Office drive, The Independent can reveal.

Theresa May, the Home Secretary, is planning to significantly increase her department’s use of legal powers that allow serious criminals with dual nationality to have their British citizenship withdrawn, Whitehall sources say.

[Drachen596]

My cousins were shooting at 7 and 8. 20 guages and even a .223 AR.

never had any issues due to proper supervision and strict rule adherence.

Look through history there are tons of small firearms already. Including more modern stuff for the female market.

[speedpimp]

never had any issues due to proper supervision and strict rule adherence.

This is the key.

[LHutton]

Since I made an ANNM bomb when I was 12 I guess I shouldn't really criticise.

[Sad, little man]

Chris Christie just took political trolling to a whole new level... Get pushed out of the race by a few rivals, so then turn around and endorse their own worst enemy. Holy shit, the spite meter is pegged at max right now.

[TheBenior]

but just wait, the gun manufacturers will make smaller guns they can sell for kids to use "due to market demand" and the laws will be changed again....bonkers
I learned to shoot with one of these (http://www.chipmunkrifles.com/chipmunk_rifles.php) when I was 7 years old.

[Godson]

7.62x51, or even 54 for that matter isn't really that bad to shoot. Way more manageable than a 12 gauge.

[overpowered]

Trickle down economics doesn't work. Minnesota raised taxes on the wealthy, increased minimum wage and ended up creating jobs and enhancing the economy -- the opposite of Scott Walker's Wisconsin which did pretty much the opposite.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-gibson/mark-dayton-minnesota-economy_b_6737786.html

[overpowered]

Apple gets it right:

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/bv24ca/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-apple-vs--the-u-s--government

[overpowered]

A lot of people who support Hillary are saying that they like Bernie but he's not electable. Polls seem to indicate that he's a lot more electable against the clown car than Hillary.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10209091603991318

It comes down to independents. They're a lot more likely to vote for Bernie than Hillary.

[LHutton]

http://latesttopnews.com/2016/02/26/no-dad-no-money-illinois-gop-bill-proposes-cutting-aid-to-single-mothers-including-rape-victims/


No dad, no money: Illinois GOP bill proposes cutting aid to single mothers, including rape victims

A new bill proposed by Illinois Republicans would strip single mothers and their children of financial aid. The draft law makes no excuse for rape victims who decide not to abort, but excludes in vitro mothers.

Currently in committee, the bill proposed by two GOP members, John Cavaletto and Keith Wheeler, would deny newborns birth certificates if their mothers will not or cannot provide the name of a biological father.

“Absent DNA evidence or a family member’s name, a birth certificate will not be issued and the mother will be ineligible for financial aid from the State for support of the child,” the bill reads.

The bill would also take away the state’s financial support for a child born to a single mother if she fails to provide the name of the biological father or bring DNA test results identifying him within 30 days.

The draft law says that “a family that does not comply with the Vital Records Act provision concerning birth certificates of unmarried mothers shall be ineligible for aid for support of the child.”

If passed into law, amendments would have to be attached to the current law that does not require paternity records.

The Vital Act stipulates that if “the mother was not married to the father of the child at either the time of conception or the time of birth, the name of the father shall be entered on the child’s birth certificate only if the mother and the person to be named as the father have signed an acknowledgment of parentage in accordance with subsection.”

Despite the anti-abortion stance generally taken by Republicans, the bill reportedly makes no exception for victims of rape or incest. Yet, at the same time, the new requirements would not apply to “artificially inseminated mothers.”

[Freude am Fahren]

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12439387_162988870750500_2759484126851265874_n.jpg ?oh=d139aa95c3411e4b63c433a5e9349796&oe=5757393B

[LHutton]

:lol:

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KORZ8F--crY

[LHutton]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/26/he-killed-for-the-maidan/


My television station had a murderer on air last week — a self-confessed one. Ivan Bubenchik was calm and collected, his demeanor was open, and he spoke confidently of his actions on February 20, 2014, like he had known exactly what he was doing. After all, he was on the good side of the Euromaidan revolution, which was raging in Ukraine at the time, and which eventually swept a corrupt president out of power.

In telling Bubenchik’s story, we were breaking a taboo — it was the police, the popular narrative goes, that were the murderers. The protesters were heroes. But Bubenchik’s words were chilling. “To create a word of mouth effect, you have to shoot two or three [police] commanders,” he said to the camera. “I only picked two. And after that, there was no need to kill anyone else, so I aimed at the legs.”

[overpowered]

Los Angeles County passed a law requiring condoms for making pornos so porn companies are renting houses in neighboring counties to make pornos in -- but they aren't telling the owners.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/Porn-Industry-Uses-Airbnb-Rental-Houses-for-Filming-370228041.html

[overpowered]

Heil Trump


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9PCPtcsgnc

[Kchrpm]

Los Angeles County passed a law requiring condoms for making pornos so porn companies are renting houses in neighboring counties to make pornos in -- but they aren't telling the owners.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/Porn-Industry-Uses-Airbnb-Rental-Houses-for-Filming-370228041.html

Looks like that policy just got shot down. Edit: nevermind, that's for the whole state, LA County still has it.

http://mynewsla.com/government/2016/02/19/no-condoms-for-porn-actors-state-fails-to-back-rules-still-law-in-la/

[overpowered]

Andrew Dice Trump (language NSFW)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Us6IjUh3k

backup link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBUDuAad_II

[Freude am Fahren]

Heil Trump


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9PCPtcsgnc

So can we sue politicians when they say negative false things?

[speedpimp]

Can you sue a carny when you fall for their shit?

[overpowered]

Therapists Confirm Trump's Narcissistic Personality Disorder

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/stop-walking-eggshells/201511/therapists-confirm-trumps-narcissistic-personality-disorder

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KdVDblnquc

[LHutton]

http://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/putin-threatens-turkey-with-nukes



Award-winning Iran-Contra journalist Robert Parry has been told by a source close to Vladimir Putin that Russia has threatened Turkey with the use of tactical nuclear weapons if it launches a joint invasion of Syria with Saudi Arabia.

Earlier this month, Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told CNN that President Bashar al-Assad will have to be removed “by force” if the political process fails.

Despite official denials that the kingdom possesses nuclear weapons, Saudi political analyst told RT’s Arabic network last week that the Saudis have indeed obtained the bomb and that tests will be conducted soon.

[overpowered]

Trump refuses to disavow the KKK.

http://gawker.com/donald-trump-says-he-knows-nothing-about-the-kkk-leader-1761794062

[Freude am Fahren]

How We Fooled Donald Trump Into Retweeting Benito Mussolini (http://gawker.com/how-we-fooled-donald-trump-into-retweeting-benito-musso-1761795039)

Aside from the fact that these people shit all over the word "journalism," it's still pretty hilarious.

[overpowered]

Rick Snyder should be facing prison time.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/snyder-out-of-scapegoats-for-flint-crisis-632406595527

[thesameguy]

Can you sue a carny when you fall for their shit?

Sitting at an airport, dying.

[Drachen596]

Rick Snyder should be facing prison time.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/snyder-out-of-scapegoats-for-flint-crisis-632406595527

So should the Mayor and City Council who bankrupted Flint causing the state to take over.

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AylKVWon2wQ

[Sad, little man]

Even more fascinatingly terrible than the idea of Trump becoming our president is the idea of Melania Trump becoming our first lady. I mean, what would that even look like? Doesn't the first lady make programs to help kids and stuff? I mean, I can't even wrap my head around it.

http://gawker.com/here-are-some-of-the-many-words-melania-trump-has-said-1754934726?utm_source=taboola

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=1322245264469210

[overpowered]

Apparently the name Trump was changed from Drumpf at some point.

http://store.hbo.com/make-donald-drumpf-again-baseball-cap-red/detail.php?p=979076

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10153283429682541

[Phil_SS]

:lol:

[Freude am Fahren]

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/1935077_10156539257050551_8882854036690184344_n.jp g?oh=86ac0a6e749eeb98c8cb4c1c6079d8d9&oe=576EBA12

[21Kid]

:( Geezus, the Repulicans are pathetic right now. Could you imagine seeing this come out of another country? What we must look like to the rest of the world right now. :smh:

I originally wrote "our political system", but changed it to "Republicans". While Hilary is almost as bad as the lying/dishonest GOP, Bernie has at least been honest and consistent with his message. I'd feel bad lumping him in with the rest of the candidates.

Sorry... I usually try to keep an open mind and try to listen to both sides. But, in trying to listen to what they say... and how they contradict themselves. And lie and cheat... it's just really getting to me today for some reason.

[LHutton]

Yup, it's a head.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCPNgjmxC18

[overpowered]

Ted Cruz is just plain slimy.

https://youtu.be/6m9Ta5eMJ6w?t=7m43s

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv7bT0ik3Wg

Wow. Rubio's going full 14 year old.

[Freude am Fahren]

As much as I hate Trump and he scares me. Cruz is worse.

[FaultyMario]

Mr. Rubio is the total opposite of what one would hope to find in a professional politician. The total opposite.

Trump can get away with it because he is an outsider running on a demagogue's platform and then hoping to capitalize his business ventures from this presidential campaign, but these sorry excuses for paid representatives, what is their angle? how do they justify their public existence?

[MR2 Fan]

As much as I hate Trump and he scares me. Cruz is worse.

Its ok, I don't think Cruz is anywhere near getting elected...he can't even win evangelicals in South Carolina.

[overpowered]

Ben Carson: Why I intend to stay in the GOP presidential race

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/02/29/ben-carson-why-intend-to-stay-in-gop-presidential-race.html

[Fogelhund]

My condolences to those reasonable Americans, who will be lumped in these current GOP supporters. It would be an interesting story as to how we got here though, a collective F up of multiple administrations and governments, leaving so many people feeling alienated from the establishment. How quickly they would want for the establishment back though.

[FaultyMario]

Didn't you post that CBC opinion piece on fb?

[Freude am Fahren]

It really sucks to be a moderate republican voter right now.

[overpowered]

No moderates left to vote for -- not really even any semi-moderates. Kasich's about as close as it comes and he's still pretty right wing.

Hillary's pretty much a moderate republican.

[Fogelhund]

Didn't you post that CBC opinion piece on fb?

Yes.

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=1257420267602282

[Godson]

Are you on facebook?

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OemqVWi_R0k

[overpowered]

Donald Trump is Zaphod Beeblebrox.

https://medium.com/@tesslacoil/donald-trump-is-zaphod-beeblebrox-496469e5d4b9#.cc2esjo4o

[overpowered]

Obama Didn’t Create Trump. The GOP’s opposition to Obama did.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/02/ross_douthat_says_obama_created_trump_that_s_nuts. html

[overpowered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ

[LHutton]

Obama Didn’t Create Trump. The GOP’s opposition to Obama did.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/02/ross_douthat_says_obama_created_trump_that_s_nuts. html
I don't know, Obama's foreign policy has been diabolical. Sure he didn't create the problem of Iraq and Afghanistan and saw them as a mistake, but when you put the oven on by mistake, what you don't do is walk away and leave it. Aside from that, his policies in Libya and Syria following withdrawal from Iraq are directly responsible for the creation of ISIS and the destabilisation of an entire region, which is a problem that hasn't even finished getting worse yet. And Syria is definitely a fire that he's continued pouring gas on throughout his second term, even supplying TOW missiles via Saudi Arabia and training that eventually found their way to terrorist factions including ISIS. He's also provided support for terrorists more directly via Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey. The golden image I had of him in his first term has certainly decayed. He descended to a very 1980s style of, "we'll support terrorists if it serves our political interests." Except arguably such a mentality is even more inexcusable now, because there is no huge Soviet bogeyman at large, he's just riding rough-shot over sound judgement.

[Freude am Fahren]

Friend of mine voting today in Texas:


I feel like your voting location says a lot about the area you live. For example: mine is located in a private school larger and nicer than my college, has a line out the door for republican voters and no line for democrats.

[LHutton]

I guess they assumed democrats would just turn up ad-hoc throughout the day, being unemployed and all, rather than queuing after work.:lol:;)

[21Kid]

Republicans rebuff Obama in meeting on SCOTUS nomination
There were no signs of a breakthrough as President Obama met Tuesday with Senate Republican leaders pledging to block anyone he nominates to the Supreme Court.If they won't do their job, Obama should just appoint someone without telling them. :random:

[thesameguy]

Agreed. Give it a few shots, then fuck 'em.

[Sad, little man]

After Republicans stall and refuse to confirm anyone Obama nominates, on her first day in Office, Clinton should nominate Obama to the supreme court... WHAM!

[novicius]

Hilary is cleaning up. :( #sigh

[Sad, little man]

Erm, hate to say it, but Bernie has never had any true chance of getting the nomination. The only scenarios where he actually won were the really outlandish ones that were never going to happen anyway.

Clinton sucks, but at least she's electable. The Republicans would have drudged up Bernie's radical past every chance they got, people would get freaked out over it, and he may not have won the general election, leaving us with president Trump. Clinton sucks, but be glad she's getting the nomination.

[overpowered]

There have been multiple polls that show that Bernie does better in the general election against each of the Republican candidates than Hillary does. That is almost certainly due to independents. Most states don't allow independents to vote in primaries/caucuses. Hillary has turned off a lot of independents. All of the Republican candidates have.

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=979664452069234

[Yeti]

I, for one, welcome our new Goldman-Sachs overlord.

Actually, I am pretty disappointed that Bernie's being shut out, but if Mrs. Watergate McWallStreet is the only thing stopping the White House from being turned into Trump Towers II...

[Sad, little man]

There have been multiple polls that show that Bernie does better in the general election against each of the Republican candidates than Hillary does. That is almost certainly due to independents. Most states don't allow independents to vote in primaries/caucuses. Hillary has turned off a lot of independents. All of the Republican candidates have.
We're eight months away from the election, and Bernie has not been attacked by the Republicans yet. Polls mean nothing at this point. He has way too many liabilities from his early years.

I want him to win as much as anyone. I'm going to vote for him in the primary. But he's not going to win. The country as a whole isn't ready to elect someone like him. So put down the kool-aid, accept the mediocrity that is Clinton, and take comfort in the fact that she's not as bad as Trump. It will save you a lot of worrying and stress between now and November.

[Godson]

Let's all just be honest. The white house is going to be white again. Y'know, because of the first man...

[overpowered]

The only remaining non-white candidate is Carson, and he has no chance. He doesn't even get the black vote.

[Yeti]

Let's all just be honest. The white house is going to be white again. Y'know, because of the first man...

I suddenly feel like putting on Lewis Black's White Album and just soaking in all of the Bill Clinton jokes in preparation. I haven't heard Bill Clinton jokes in ages.

[Sad, little man]

Here's the other funny thing... I don't know if he's still saying this, but I remember early on when Bernie was campaigning, he specifically said that even if he was elected president, he was not going to be able to bring about the change that really needs to happen.

So why exactly are we sitting around bellyaching about the fact that our savior Bernie is not going to get elected? As he said originally, the only way things will truly change is if a large chunk of the population gets fed up enough to protest the fact that our country is controlled by an elite group of wealthy people. But that's not going to happen. Clinton will get elected, and we'll silently stew away about the fact that our president is controlled by big banks. But even if Bernie did get elected, all we would do is look to him to bring about the change we need, which he already accurately confirmed he was not powerful enough to do on his own, even if he was president.

[Crazed_Insanity]

Nobody's expecting Bernie to change the world, but it has to start somewhere. I will cease my support to any candidate who has the support of the behind the scene rich elites.

Chris Christy is right on. Trump is the only candidate capable of beating Hillary. Like I said, I'm willing to elect Trump if the democrats go for the status quo candidate.

[MR2 Fan]

Nobody's expecting Bernie to change the world, but it has to start somewhere. I will cease my support to any candidate who has the support of the behind the scene rich elites.

Chris Christy is right on. Trump is the only candidate capable of beating Hillary. Like I said, I'm willing to elect Trump if the democrats go for the status quo candidate.

you would

[overpowered]

Chris Christy is right on. Trump is the only candidate capable of beating Hillary. Like I said, I'm willing to elect Trump if the democrats go for the status quo candidate.So you're saying burn the country then?

[overpowered]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/download/?fbid=10153968891195908

[Crazed_Insanity]

So you're saying burn the country then?

Like Sander's limitation, one man cannot possibly burn the country down.

It'll simply be a warning shot to those rich guys who think they can buy the country. I want them to spend their money and get no return for their money. Hopefully that'll discourage them from playing.

Enough of status quo. Maintaining status quo may not be burning the country, but it's suffocating all of us slowly without any help from the terrorists.

[overpowered]

This seems insightful:


Several factors combined to produce Trump.

1. The GOP outsourced its communication strategy to Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the like. Those people and corporations are in the business of selling fear. For 20 years, they've been telling people that the only reasonable response to any event is fear -- fear of terrorism, of moderate Democrats like Obama, of losing their guns, of black people, of economic calamity, of homosexuals, of the rise of other countries, of disease, of Obamacare, etc. They've created an entire fear-based culture. Reagan, for all his many faults, was a sunny, optimistic fellow who told us it was morning in America. Now the message of the GOP (crafted by Fox/Limbaugh/Beck) is that America is a shithole where you are in terrible peril. So along comes Trump who cynically exploits those fears, fashions himself as a classic authoritarian strongman who promises to keep everyone safe by being "tough."

2. The GOP allowed itself to become, in Bobby Jindal's apt phrase, the party of stupid. It denied evolution. It denied global warming. It denied geology. It denied the need for any education beyond what might be needed to get a job. It kept returning to the theory that tax cuts would produce a booming economy, despite the fact that there was no evidence that that was so. (Kansas, anyone?) It denied the importance of facts themselves. Some Republicans even denied Enlightenment principles of scientific inquiry and discourse and embraced theocracy. And there was no intellectual enforcer like a Buckley who was willing or able to call out such stupidity. Stupid people are easy for carnival barkers like Trump to manipulate.

3. The GOP was infiltrated by and is now heavily dependent on religious literalists. As Barry Goldwater pointed out years ago, those people are impossible to work with in a democratic government because they refuse to compromise. If you are acting in accordance with God's law, then even the smallest deviation from that (i.e., the compromises democracy relies on for its very survival) becomes heresy. Though Trump is far from religious, he promises no-compromise tactics in defeating ISIS, in keeping Americans "safe."

4. The GOP became the party of the Lost Cause, the party of the south. Though it drives some of my Republican friends crazy to hear this said, the party went out of its way to embrace bigoted voters. And the party encouraged their racism, especially when Obama won the presidency. But for years, Republicans thought they had to couch their racism in dog whistles and cutesy allusions. Now comes Trump who proudly disdains polite speech and openly expresses his bigotry. And the reaction is delight and relief: finally, we can say what we really think and express our prejudices -- by voting for a man who does just that.

5. The GOP adopted Leninist tactics. "No enemies to the right" became its electoral message. No matter how kooky, antidemocratic, or reactionary you were, the GOP was willing to embrace you. And so unsurprisingly, the party moved right. Far, far right. Fear of being called a RINO drove party members to extreme positions. And at the extreme end of every ideology is authoritarianism (which is true of both left and right). Today the party bears almost no resemblance to the one my parents supported. So along comes Trump, whose ideology (to the extent he has one) isn't conservative, but is authoritarian. His very campaign slogan is revanchist: Make America great again. While his policies are not in line with past GOP policies, his tone and his authoritarian style are the inevitable result of the Republican's embrace of more and more extreme ideas.

6. Trump is a celebrity. He's best known as a reality TV personality, not a politician. We live in a culture that glorifies celebrities, but for years few celebrities have identified as Republicans. The entertainment industry is overwhelmingly moderate to liberal. For years, Republicans had to make do with C-list celebrity endorsements (Ted Nugent?). Suddenly, here comes an A-list guy and the Republican faithful are delighted. Finally, a celebrity who isn't a Democrat!

There are many other factors, of course. But these, I think, are a good starting point. As a liberal, I cop to feeling some schadenfreude at seeing the GOP in a Trumpian dilemma. But as an American, I am dismayed. Our democracy needs a principled, intellectually coherent, forward-looking conservative party. It doesn't have one now. And that's dangerous."

[thesameguy]

Indeed!

[overpowered]

Like Sander's limitation, one man cannot possibly burn the country down.Au contraire.

The POTUS is the commander and chief of the military.

He's also the guy in charge of international diplomacy.

Those two things alone would allow him to burn the country down.

[thesameguy]

Meh. Let's shit or get off the pot. This perpetual backslide into irrelevancy and failure isn't going to win anything either. Hillary letting the banks run wild would have the same net effect, just less bloody. In the short term.

[novicius]

Looks like Bernie won 4-of-11 (and tied in one) -- better than expected! :D :up:

Official Delegate Count from HuffPost:

Clinton: 459
Sanders 352

[Freude am Fahren]

It'll simply be a warning shot to those rich guys who think they can buy the country.

Umm...



I'll let you think about that one for a second...




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No? Okay then.

[21Kid]

Au contraire.

The POTUS is the commander and chief of the military.

He's also the guy in charge of international diplomacy.

Those two things alone would allow him to burn the country down.
Michael Hayden (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/28/former-cia-director-military-may-refuse-to-follow-trumps-orders-if-he-becomes-president/) said that they would follow any directive he gave them to kill terrorists families, or anything else that violated international law.

During his appearance on “Real Time,” Hayden cited Trump’s pledge to kill family members as being among his most troubling campaign statements.
“That never even occurred to you, right?” Maher asked.
“God, no!” Hayden replied. “Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act.”
“That’s quite a statement, sir,” Maher said.
“You are required not to follow an unlawful order,” Hayden added. “That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict.”

[MR2 Fan]

In other news....this is possibly REALLY BAD:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/02/mosul-dam-engineers-warn-it-could-fail-at-any-time-killing-1m-people?CMP=fb_gu

[overpowered]

Wall Street Journal is siding with Apple on the encryption thing:

http://www.wsj.com/article_email/apple-is-right-on-encryption-1456877827-lMyQjAxMTE2NzAzMjQwNzI3Wj

[Crazed_Insanity]

Au contraire.

The POTUS is the commander and chief of the military.

He's also the guy in charge of international diplomacy.

Those two things alone would allow him to burn the country down.

Yes, a Trump presidency may cause other hostile nations to burn down faster. In fact, invading another nation stealthily and utilize the Seals to kidnap/kill somebody who's the enemy of the US and then dump his body in the middle of the ocean is something I fully expect somebody like Trump would do. I dunno, maybe Trump would just nuke Pakistan upon realizing they are harboring somebody we don't like?

I guess, the only possible way we can indirectly get burned down is by Trump launching nukular missiles to other nuclear powers.

Anyway, I failed to see how commander-in-chief can utilize the military to burn ourselves down.

It's the other nations that may be sweating more upon Trump becoming president...

[Kchrpm]

By starting the wrong fight. There's always a bigger bully.

[Crazed_Insanity]

Umm...



I'll let you think about that one for a second...




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No? Okay then.

Trump is rich, but not in the order of creating financial bubble rich.

Think of it this way, if we are to prosecute those responsible for the previous financial meltdown, I don't think Trump would be on that list, right?

If Trump really were on the same 'team', surely the super pacs would be supporting him rather than somebody like Bush.

Surely the super pac owners only give money to those who they think they can control.

Trump is just too crazy to be controlled.

[Crazed_Insanity]

By starting the wrong fight. There's always a bigger bully.

Vietnam? Iraq? We don't need Trump to start the wrong fights.

Anyway, not really here to support Trump, just want the democrats to nominate the right candidate.

[Kchrpm]

Vietnam and Iraq were not bigger bullies, they did not mount a major attack of any kind on US soil.

[MR2 Fan]

Vietnam and Iraq were not bigger bullies, they did not mount a major attack of any kind on US soil.

Vietnam could be argued that it was the fear of non-capitalism spreading through that part of the world.

[George]

By starting the wrong fight.

Or, of possibly equal importance in one direction of the other, by preventing the wrong fight. I'm thinking of Patton in 1945 and McArthur in 1951.

(from one of the books I mentioned recently in the Reading thread)

[Crazed_Insanity]

Anyway, if there's really a 'bully', I have no problems with punching him out to show him a lesson.

It was pretty pathetic when we were bullying Iraq and Vietnam thinking that we can easily kick their asses... and then we fucked ourselves over.

Anyway, just frustrated with the status quo. Just not voting for Hillary.

Either Sanders... or Trump! So I hope the democrats nominate wisely.

[Kchrpm]

Anyway, if there's really a 'bully', I have no problems with punching him out to show him a lesson.

*sigh* You don't get it. WE WOULD BE THE BULLY IN THE SITUATION. BECAUSE TRUMP IS A BULLY! He would go in to some situation, say or do something stupid, and/or try to use/show US force, and then the response from that is an attack on US soil.

[overpowered]

I can't imagine why Christie decided to endorse Trump, unless maybe if he's looking for the V.P. position.

[LHutton]

Anyway, if there's really a 'bully', I have no problems with punching him out to show him a lesson.

No matter how big you are you need trade and investment in your currency, the worry is that Trump would alienate too many people in those respects.

[Godson]

I think the fear is someone as clueless as trump with his finger on the red button.

[LHutton]

In all honesty I'd be surprised if the interlocks involve just one idiot. In 1962 a Soviet submarine was ordered to fire a nuclear-tipped torpedo. The commander had a drink of Vodka instead.