Politics

[Crazed_Insanity]

Billi, no I am not. Calling out Musk for going through what appears to be an insanely fast red-pilling and two people not saying "this might be controversial" but literally calling for jailing without parole of doctors and therapists and calling them "butchers" is not regurgitating talking points. That's fucking fascism. It's what Nazis did. Look it up.

And you're branded as a Nazi sympathizer because you literally sympathized with an actual Nazi. I do not know how to explain that any further. You sympathized with a Nazi who shot up a super market. This is not you being unfairly branded, it's *what you did* and then when called out on it, you doubled down. You can chalk that up to regurgitating talking points and cancel culture all you like, but I was in that actual conversation with you where you sympathized with a Nazi and then defended sympathizing with a Nazi.

Also, you immediately introduced this idea of "lowering the age", which nobody was talking about. You actually moved the goalposts *twice* in one post. Once from calling for jailing without parole of doctors and therapists over conducting medical procedures with the patient's consent to "can't you see it's controversial" and then introducing another angle to just try to make your stance seem more palatable.

"All I'm asking is..." no, it isn't. And fuck you for trying to make it seem like it is.

Back to refusing to click "view post".

Elon and Peterson tweet was about adults 'manipulating' kids into having these kind of procedures, not stoping these procedure in absolute terms. I'm not the one who immediately introduced the idea of lowering the age. It has already been lowered and that's what's upsetting Peterson and Musk. New 'guidelines' is saying we should do it as early as 14! https://apnews.com/article/gender-tr...831c2bf14f9bbb

Why don't we also push down voting age, smoking age, drinking age, age of conscent? What makes gender reversal such a special case that we should absolutely trust an underage kid to be able to make such impactful life decision correctly? Raging hormones entering into our teen's systems will always help them make the wisest decisions?

Anyway, we probably won't be able to really debate the issue, because you guys are not allowed to engage with terrorists. So brand me as a Nazi and end of discussion? Reality is that I'm not a Nazi sympathizer, but you guys felt free to branded me as such. I must be a radicalized hateful person pretending to be a follower of Christ. If I don't agree with you on certain issues, then just brand me as some evil radicalized hateful asshole so you can feel better at hating or ignoring such part of the population?

There are definitely hateful white supremacists, but I really don't feel Peterson/Musk are one of them. Musk has a more whacky personality and even if he is qualified, I would NOT vote for him for president. He should stick to building things. As for Peterson, I'd have no problems with him as president. However, he is probably better served where he is. Bottomline is that I don't believe he's a hateful person, let alone a white supremacist.

Both sides are very good a vilifying the other side. In the end, we can no longer debate the actual issues, we're just fighting each other or ignoring each other and allowing the issues to drag on unresolved...

As for boycotting, the right can be stupid too. I think some are now trying to boycott Chick filet for some woke issues? Both sides are getting crazy. Just want you to know that I'm not only critical of the left. I'm an equal opportunity critic!

Anyway, maybe I'm the only crazy one as my name suggests.

[FaultyMario]

Happy pride month

I did not know that some people in the Republic of Canuckistan also add "2S" (Two-spirit) before the LGBT+, as a neologism for queer indigenous folk. And while it is not something stemming from within indigenous communities, I like that it tries to break away from the western view of sexuality.

We still have a long way to go to create diverse, inter-dialectic communities. But once we do, we will be ready to explore the universes.

[Crazed_Insanity]

Yes, considering the size of our universe, there are certainly plenty of things to explore externally. However, there are also a lot for us to explore internally within as well... I definitely have a male and female spirit within me as well. So I guess I can consider myself as part of the LGBT2S+ community too?

To be able to have a truly diverse, inter-dialectic community, we probably need a very good universal translator that can help buffer/filter our speech? To accurately detect whether or not of the speaker means to offend and then translate that appropriately to the listener.

I think people nowadays have developed some sort of allergic reactions to certain speeches. I'm finding both sides overreacting to whatever the other side is saying. I get that we perhaps need to be more politically correct so that we can filter out words that might cause these allergic reactions sometimes, but we can't all continue to live inside a clean politically correct bubble as a community forever. Just because you're allergic to peanuts or shrimp, doesn't mean we need to get rid of them all. Of course we absolutely need to be considerate of those who suffer from allergies so that they won't die because of peanuts or shrimp... There's always a happy medium. Or maybe it'll be somewhat unhappy medium, which is called compromise... point is we all should have sufficient freedom, but not so much that it end up hurting others needlessly.

Maybe the pursuit of happiness in our constitution is the problem? Americans tend to think happiness is their God given right? Give me happiness or let me die!

[mk]

Nobody gives a fuck about people in cyberpunk films changing their bodies to suit whatever mood they have, or enhancements they want, or aesthetic vibe they got going on at any particular time.

But OH NO IF SOMEONE HAS A WEE-WEE BUT PREFERS BOOBS AND A VAGEEN (or vice-versa) WE’D BETTER PUT AN END TO IT! BUTCHERS! CHILD GROOMERS! VIOLENT PSYCHOPATHS!

Gender reassignment surgery is probably the most cyberpunk thing there is.

Happy pride month

Here the circle is closing.
Pride folks have blocked supporters because they are not pride enough.

[Crazed_Insanity]

Jack Dorsey came out endorsing RFK jr. has elevated him to be the top billionaire to hate for the moment, giving Elno Must some chance to take a breath and chill a bit.

Anyway, just to be clear, I'm not a supporter of RFK jr. I do like his msg, but don't really know too much about him to trust him with my vote. Still, I don't hate Biden so much that I want him out of the office so I kinda agree with Bernie that there's probably no need to challenge a sitting liberal president at the moment.

I'm just surprised that this political allergic reaction can be so strong even amongst the liberals.

So what if RFK jr is running? What do we have to worry about if Biden is so strong and popular in the 1st place?
Also, who cares what Jack Dorsey thinks? Likewise, who cares what Elon Musk thinks? I admire Elon for his accomplishments, but certainly don't always agree with him on everything.

Hate speech is obviously wrong, but I'm just surprised how much people can hate 'speeches' given by their political oppositions. Let people have their opinions. Agree to disagree. Why go all bunkers over it? We still don't really know natural origin or lab leak. It is definitely possible that vaccines are not 100% safe. As long as you know where you stand and why you stand there, that should be enough. No need to hate/scoff people standing on different sides. Even for flat earthers. So what? How will flat earthers' belief hurt me? Even for climate change deniers... who's hurting the planet more? Those deniers? Or the people(which is all of us) who are actually polluting, not to mention we can have giant forest fires and wars all going on at the same time... deny or not deny... what difference does it really make?

Nobody has identical political/religious beliefs, sexual preferences/orientations, nor financial wealth levels. Do we really need to focus in on our differences so much and find reasons to hate one another?

Of course, Jordan Peterson probably also shouldn't hate the people pushing kids to alter their genders so much. Just let them go thru with it and pick up their own responsibilities of their own actions. He probably also shouldn't hate the Canadian government for wanting to compel speech. What's the big deal. Just use people's desire pronouns. What's the big deal? If it hurts you to say something, then just don't say it then. Compel speech won't actually force you to say something, right? You can stay silent... or you can just address the person by name to avoid using the pronouns you don't want to use? Government can't catch you all the time!

Anyway, these reactions just amplified the 2 sides to an out of control current day level I think...

[MR2 Fan]

Here the circle is closing.
Pride folks have blocked supporters because they are not pride enough.

I have a lot of thoughts about PRIDE but am also not part of the "community" other than being an Ally and that everyone deserves equal treatment, however when I have more time I will probably delve into my thoughts here as not many other places I feel like I can post without getting a lot of pushback for being an ally and not officially part of the "group". I'll explain why I'm using quotations as well later.

Edit: did I mention I love run-on sentences?

[Crazed_Insanity]

No you didn't. However, I can respect that your sentence self identifies as a marathoner. My sentences identify themselves as typos and grammatically/logically wrong all the time. Some people are anal about that and can't stand what's seemingly wrong. It's not their fault that they self identify as 'police'! There will always to spelling, grammar, moral police..., but, hey, at least they're working for free and not taking any of taxpayer's money!

[FaultyMario]

you too can get your own "Radilcalize Me Elno" doll

[Crazed_Insanity]

I kinda want to continue our discussion in F-1 here rather than derail our usual F-1 thread.

Is Max really a neo-nazi? I don't know for sure, but if he really is, then I suppose I would stop being a fanboy. I can appreciate Max's talent on track without mixing his private life to it. Is he an asshole both on and off track? Maybe. However, if he can deliver the goods, he'll continue to deliver. Not saying we all need to be assholes, plus, not every asshole could deliver the same thing. Correlation is not causation. Same with twitter me Elno! Everyone can be an asshole, but certainly not everyone can win championships or make EVs or shoot up and retrieve rockets. Me being their admirer is not that I admire their holes, but their achievements. We gotta learn to separate those things out a bit.

Of course if we truly find out that they are neo-nazis or that their successes are built on doing some evil shit under the table, that's a whole different story.

On a flip side, somebody like Jeff Epstein... seemingly like a decent guy. Won't tweet stupid politically incorrect shit. Of course where you get your money is really none of my business as long as you made it legally. My point is that a truly fucked up evil guy can be much more polished and politically correct on the outside. These are the folks we need to be cautious of... My take is that those annoying loudmouths are probably the ones we need to worry about the least.

I'm quite fond of those guys who have a singular vision and are determined to make it happen. These are qualities I lack I think... that's why I envy and admire them. Whether it's Max or Elon or Bernie... Bernie is not quite as successful in life, but I still admire his determination!

Don't hate somebody simply because they have an asshole. We all have them! Lastly, I'm pretty sure not the entire GOP are neo-nazies. Just as not all dems are communists.

[MR2 Fan]

Trump just stated he's been indicted again